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    Another Take on the Tishrei Scene

    From the COLlive inbox: Every Tishrei, I was disgusted at the scene in Crown Heights. Until I decided to play Devil's Advocate. Full Story

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    ch resident
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    ch resident

    beautiful. i experienced a similar event. i stopped into 770 for mincha. the noise level was waaay up but astoundingly it was from groups of girls learning here there and everywhere. downstairs someone was giving a shiur too. it was the first time i daavened Mincha without a stray thought in my brain.

    Right You Are!
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    Right You Are!

    Though many years ago we did unfortunately encounter Israeli girls who left much to be desired in mentchlichkeit, these last years have produced increasingly warm Chassidishe girls who daven and learn, and want to soak up the ruach of being close to the Rebbe in the Rebbe’s Shul, who spend their time davening and learning, and feeling the closeness of the Rebbe and his teachings. If only we could accommodate them with more room and comfort to pursue their emesdike wishes to be close to our Rebbe! May we soon see the coming of Moshiach, and be transported to Yerushalayim… Read more »

    thank you!
    Guest
    thank you!

    I totally agree with everything that you say, and I thank you for finally posting something positive about these girls on col

    Moshiach now!
    Guest
    Moshiach now!
    The amaerican girls should learn from the israeli
    Guest
    The amaerican girls should learn from the israeli
    You seem like a real mentch
    Guest
    You seem like a real mentch

    keep it up!

    Oh give me a break!
    Guest
    Oh give me a break!

    I’m sick of all this kumbaya garbage about how pnimiusdik they are. Time for a reality check. They are rude, dirty, ignorant, unpleasant with a kumpt mir attitude. They don’t help their hostess, they push and shove and demand we move for them, physically and metaphorically. I dread Tishrei because they behave like chayas & behemas. Respect for anyone? They don’t show respect for older people, not even for Yidden. The writer must be living in la-la-land.

    wow
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    wow

    amazing if only everybody would realize this they wouldn’t feel threatened and unwelcome and wouldn’t cause that much harm.

    Crown Heightser
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    Crown Heightser

    Beautiful, true article. Let’s remember, too, that some of these young people are curious and searching, and their weeks in Crown Heights can have a profound effect on their lives. I overheard a young Israeli woman tell her story: she came from a B’nei Akiva background, and someone convinced her to come for Tishrei “just stam.” By the end of the month here, she had become a full-fledged Lubavitcher. Her hostess’s tremendous emunah in Moshiach was the influence that changed her life. She went on to marry a Lubavitcher boy and is raising a chassidishe family. I also met some… Read more »

    thank you!
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    thank you!

    Thank you for this excellent, needed and profoundly true article. Think for a moment – what would 770 be like full year, what would the Davening sound like, what would the learning look like, what would the sholosh regolim really be like – what would the tishrei scene really mean to our own children if not for the life, living, meaning, enthusiasm, devotion, self sacrifice of the men, women, young adults, teenagers and children that raise every cent of their ticket to come. say Thank You, show your Hakoros Hatov, — to those that need to bash, tattle, belittle –… Read more »

    to number 7
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    to number 7

    You must have a very hard life which makes you see only bad. I was called from the hachnosas orchim office 3 nights before Rosh Hashana asking if I could host some Israeli’s.unfortunately I was solidly booked with my own out of town and country relatives. but agreed to put up a couple until Rosh Hashana when my own guests came. This couple was the NICEST most MENTCHLICH couple I have met. I wish some of our locals were as nice. I invited them to eat with us for Rosh Hashana and in response they showed up just before yom… Read more »

    How right u ARE!!!
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    How right u ARE!!!

    There was a time that i was terribly bothered by a group of yidden from another country…one day i was asked to give a talk about Jewish culture in a public school and they had invited someone from another culture (not religion) to speak to. I realized something so true…We all have a hard time with people who come from other places and every move they do we translate as rude….try to learn a little about them and you realize how wrong you are. and as the bsh”t taught if you see a fault in others it should serve as… Read more »

    Right on
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    Right on

    As a father of five girls (and equal amount of boys) I must say that when Bais Rivka started a program called, yes you guessed right, “Nosim Larabi” meaning that BR girls also come to the Rebbe for Tishrei, my girls grew tremendously and the atmosphere in my house became full of light of the Rebbe. Tishrei became a very inspiring time in our home. And I’m not signing my name because if you knew who wrote this you won’t believe me because I’m known to be a very not big fan of the organizers of these whateveryouwannacallit groups whom… Read more »

    So right
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    So right

    I was in 770 one day of Aseres Yemei Teshuva. The shul was full, at least 1500 young men davenning with feeling, many were behind the minyan because they were thinking about the meaning of their prayers

    With all due respect....
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    With all due respect....

    I have been in 770 when there was no crazy noises, no yelling, and yet, there were quite a few groups of american girls sitting and learning. as much as it is nice that the isreali girls are learning while they make noise, the noise isnt necessary.

    thank you
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    thank you

    for this fresh article fileld with ahavas chinam and showing that its ultimately up to us to see the cup half full and take advantago of it.

    A gut Gebentched yor!

    Just as you just brought some light into us, may H’ bentch your year with only light of kedusha in everything you do.

    #9, why does making Lubavs matter?
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    #9, why does making Lubavs matter?

    I thought the point of coming was to spend Tishrei, the holiest time with the holiest days, in a holy place?

    You wave her decision like it’s the main point, and, its not. Tishrei for Tishrei, not for making Lubavitchers of non-Lubavitchers.

    kol hakavod
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    kol hakavod

    This is what Tishrei in Crown Heights was and should be like, overflowing …b’rov am hadras melech. Yake it all in. Enjoy! May we see the Rebbe here with our own eyes NOW! And a hakoras hatov to all the those who host and help the orchim. Crown Heights is truly ‘kan yziva es ha’Bracha’, just open your eyes! 🙂

    beautiful
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    beautiful

    thank you!!!

    Finally, Someone With A Brain!!!
    Guest
    Finally, Someone With A Brain!!!

    Reb Simcha, a beautiful article. Mamush

    someone got there head on straight
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    someone got there head on straight

    you are one hundred percent right

    kind of agree w number seven
    Guest
    kind of agree w number seven

    yes its true theyer rude and gruff and very ungrateful, but u can also learn a lot from them!!! theyre very real and pnimiyusdik

    American chassidisha girls
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    American chassidisha girls

    I was recently in 770 and observed a group of american girls learning, It was a weekday evening and I couldnt fathom the reason for their presence. In response to my query one girl explained that they are Beth Rivkah High School girls who joined a program called Nosim LRebbe. Though they have 770 in their backyard all year between Rosh Hashana and Shabbos Bereishis they focus on extra learning Mivtzoim, Chesed< helping at home and Shluchim. They try to feel that they are actually traveling to the Rebbe for Tishrei and try to use every opportunity to the fullest.

    to number 7
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    to number 7

    I read this article as soon as it posted. I was just waiting for you (or someone your type) to find something negative to say. Thanks for keeping the COLive tradition of negative feedback. It’s thanks to people like you that makes this site interesting…

    to 7
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    to 7

    Stereotype. stereotype. stereotype. Enough said.

    derech eretz kodma leTorah
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    derech eretz kodma leTorah

    no reason they can’t come AND act like civilised people too. I’ve gone over to many groups shmoozing in too loud voices, and reminded them of what every preschooler knows – there’s an INSIDE voice and an OUTSIDE/PLAYGROUND voice. There’s no need to speak in anything louder than a whisper when you are sitting right next to one you are shmoozing with.
    And if 770 is so holy in their eyes, they should go out on the porch to shmoose.

    best article on col ever
    Guest
    best article on col ever

    Thanks for posting an article with which I would no be embarrassed to tell the rebbe I read.

    wonderful article!
    Guest
    wonderful article!

    btw,
    if you give attention to comments which don’t deserve to be seen you make it stick out even more!

    to # 7 and all of you
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    to # 7 and all of you

    Yes Tishrei is a beautiful time its amazing to see so many good girls and boys come in yet i have to say that i have seen many of the opposite i hosted last year a group of girls and boys they just trashed my house left their garbage everywhere brought mice and lice and it took months to restore my house to its original orderly fashion. at the same time i have also seen teenage Israeli boys and girls hanging out trust me they were not siblings these were teenagers coming to the Rebbe’s Shchuna just to have fun… Read more »

    dear guests
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    dear guests

    please help at the tables when you go to eat. please help set up the tables sometimes. even offer to babysit a couple of hours. this will improve the atmosphere and is good for your own chinuch as well.

    To #24
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    To #24

    Glad to be of service! Anytime this topic comes up, you can count on me to make your day! Have a gutten moed.

    its time to look at each other the way the Rebbe teaches us to
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    its time to look at each other the way the Rebbe teaches us to

    those are the girls who afterwards go out there to the difficult, challenging shlichuios, the real tough ones, with true dedication and love for the Rebbe, ready for anything, with joy and strength. I wish my girls would have the same feelings and readiness, i have to work hard against all the stupid loshon horo, the love of chitzonius, the race after the fashion rl. and the darkness of the golus, to have my girls see the light of theese amazing Israeli girls, and yes a few tzniusdikly dressed and behaved Americans that sit and learn in 770, which is… Read more »

    beautiful!
    Guest
    beautiful!

    Gut Mo’ed!
    A shliach!

    yasher koach
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    yasher koach

    yehi ratzon the author shold grow from strength to stregnth

    and so should all the chasidim — whether israeli, american, russian, south-american, south-african, french, australian or brittish.

    how lucky you are
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    how lucky you are

    that you were smart and mature to do such a thing.
    you-ve gained something that people never did.
    and that you now know what you have in your backyard…
    i,too,have to work hard to earn agura on agura to be able to travel to my Rebbe..
    and i’m gealous of you.

    to # 7
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    to # 7

    sorry for you for being blind, these girls come and help there hostes and yes they are not lady like so what so are the girls here in CH, and that age, but they are sincare and Cgasidishe girls, who are givin g up Gashmius for Ruchniyus, open youe eyes and you will see the real good that is out there.

    To 7
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    To 7

    Totally agree

    To #7
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    To #7

    Shame on you! I live in Israel, and yes the culture here is different. People speak louder in groups and touch each other more. Men hug and kiss each other when they meet on the street. It’s normal here to push your way onto a bus. But Israelis will bend over backwards to help a stranger.

    to #7
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    to #7

    not all israelies are rude. a lot of them do push and shove, and maybe some of them are a little rude, but there are plenty of nice, polite and sincere girls coming to CH for tishrei!

    israeli chutzpa
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    israeli chutzpa

    it’s written that it’s hardest to be kind to the people closest to you but chesed starts in the HOME, meaning family comes FIRST. Everyone else is also extremely important but you can’t have pride over treating random people nicely when your own neigbors are getting smacked. the Rebbe said that the sand closest to the water is the most dry. Us Americans are used to 770 so it loses its true value in our eyes and we take it for granted. But i have friends who live 20 minutes from the kotel and go maybe once a year- while… Read more »

    To #33
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    To #33

    Ditto!

    to #7
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    to #7

    to call any person in the world “dirty” is….wow. wonder who u think u are. disgusted is an understatement.

    noisy israelis???
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    noisy israelis???

    i live in jerusalem and whenever i do a double take because someone is speaking extra loud on the bus or in the street, usually on his mobile, it is invariably an american! but it doesnt bother me because i dont own jerusalem i live here. i have a very different feeling towards arrogant and threatening non jewish tourists – i feel invaded. surely you can feel the same difference if your fellow jew joins you in beis hamikdash shebebavel – you dont own it, you just happen to live there. dont feel its yours and that you have been… Read more »

    C'mon people
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    C'mon people

    Theres no doubt Israelis are pushier then the americans

    me from #24 again to #7
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    me from #24 again to #7

    thanks to you we have so many more comments! A Yasher Koach!

    bro
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    bro

    Wow Keep it up!! amazing article!

    Read 29
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    Read 29

    I was scrolling down reading all of your nonsense when suddenly I read 29 and after I read that one I felt like there was. Othong to talk about he hit the spot Yashir koach for bringing out your point in such a non shamefull way you should all take a lesson from him could even be a her!?

    To number 47
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    To number 47

    Just shows that you too have nothing better to do with your life keep it going

    Thank you 47
    Guest
    Thank you 47

    For bringing me to notice such a beutifull article 1000% correct that was really an awesome entry check it out

    29 and 47
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    29 and 47

    I like what you wrote you penned my thoughts exactly

    very true!!
    Guest
    very true!!

    thank you for posting/writing this!!

    Funny
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    Funny

    My friend who is from out of town but goes to ch for sukkos said the exact same thing last shabbos, i wonder if she wrote this article..lol

    Yerachmiel
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    Yerachmiel

    This article would be a lot more credible if there was an actual person attached to it. Why so afraid to post your name, author?

    very nice, but...
    Guest
    very nice, but...

    Well expressed. I am glad to know there are sincere Israelis who care about the right things. I have more of a problem with the philosophy of some of these Israelis. We all know that leaving E”Y is halachically problematic, but no one bothers to talk about that. The boys who come spend their hard-earned (or borrowed, or gifted) money to hang out in 770 and learn…. cant they do that in Israel? Before encouraging these exorbitant trips to the States that few Israelis can afford, why don’t they spend time in THEIR own backyards? Learn and daven at the… Read more »

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