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Wow!
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Wow!

I just watched the video of the Rebbe. I had no idea how much the Rebbe was for DAVKA sitting and learning and for us NOT to go to the army!

I wouldn't go.
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I wouldn't go.

I don’t agree with such a demonstration here. The whole thing is absurd.

Such Powerful and Beautiful Sicha
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Such Powerful and Beautiful Sicha

The Rebbe gave over such a strong and inspiring speech, that i believe if a Jew who wasn’t frum at all watched this Rebbe video, then he would start learning Torah and become frum just from this.
The Rebbe was such a haileke person. He was so special.
i cried when i saw this video, because i saw how much the Rebbe cared about Torah, and Klal Yisroel, and i was amazed.

Embarrass
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Embarrass

Chillul HaShem.

Doesnt sound like a very safe place to go to
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Doesnt sound like a very safe place to go to

learn torah instead

If only....
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If only....

If only All of these Chareidim would have protested when Jews were kicked out of their homes in Gush Katif…

Yossy H
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Yossy H

As someone who has spent quality time in the Holy Land and has lots of relatives living there, I just want to make one comment. The Current “draft law” was ill written and should be changed. However the two main opinions within Lubavitch are both flawed 1) Serving in the Army is an Honor and everyone should be doing their fair share. 2) Lubavitch should stand united with the other Frum communities and protest the law. Group 1 is wrong because they simply don’t understand Israeli politics, and they even less understand what 3 years of Army service initials. Group… Read more »

The Rebbe's prophecy...
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The Rebbe's prophecy...

“The Torah student… as for making it into the big headlines – if only he weren’t written about negatively…” (6:33 minutes into the clip)
WOW, unfortunately that’s exactly what’s happening now, 44 years after the Sicha was said…

Is that correct???
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Is that correct???

The report states: While Chabad bochurim typically differ from their frum peers as they enlist in the Israel Defense Forces after getting married, Chabad’s rabbinical body in Israel called on Lubavitchers to participate in the protest. Since when is that correct? There are Chabad chassidim in the IDF just as there are other chassidim from Gur, Vizhnitz and the likes. But that is the personal choice and preference of personal individuals. Lets not fool ourselves. Chabad individuals join religious programs in the IDF either as Rabbis, Chevra Kaddisha, Mashgichim or simple positions in Nachal or Shachar. You will very rarely… Read more »

Good, but objection:
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Good, but objection:

“While Chabad….differ from their frum peers” – no, they differ from their chareidi counterparts; there are lots of other frum people who DO enlist.

Thank you for being truthful and stating that Chabad DOES enlist.

I wonder who is organizing the protest…

PEOPLE!!!!
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PEOPLE!!!!

Frum does not equal chareidi!!!!
There are frum people – and communities – who enlist.
Chareidim, as a rule, do not.

Please, differentiate between frum and chareidi!!!!!

protesr in the u.s?
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protesr in the u.s?

I dont undersrand what right they think they have to protest in the u s when they dont live in israel and have no idea what 3 years army is..

To # 11 Chabad IS Chareidi!!!
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To # 11 Chabad IS Chareidi!!!

A Shliach once sent in a flyer for the Rebbe’s approval. The flyer said something about us NOT being Orthodox, rather Chabad.

The Rebbe wrote back a very harsh message that he will accomplish in his brochure what the misnagdim have not been able to do in 200 years. (I.e. say that we, Chassidim are not Orthodox). We are frum, chassidim, chareidim. Forget the PR garbage, mir zaynen Chassidim fun Rebbin!

TO #6
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TO #6

Did the Rebbe calling for physical protest when Yamit was given to the Egyptians?

Did official the offical Lubavitch Beis Din of Israel call for physical protest when Gush Katif was evacuated?

TO #11
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TO #11

In a nutshell: Frum is a yiddish term used for “strictly adherent” Chared(i) is a hebrew term used for “fearful (of G-d) Generally, both these terms are used to describe the sectors of Judaism which follow the teachings of the Baal Shem Tov (Chassidim), Gaon of Vilna (Mussar oriented non chasidim) and the Chassam Sofer (General ideology and traditional approach to Judaism accepted by both Chassidim and Misnagdim). [lets set aside Sefardim for now, as their history is slightly different] Charedim accept the Shulchan Aruch as their undisputed constitution and adhere to every little detail. Additionally making no changes to… Read more »

well its a wake up call
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well its a wake up call

Alot of chareidim throw stones at the soldiers and stuff it just shows how jews should be responsible for each other. and they shouldnt be throwing rocks while the soldiers are doing service.the chareidim have to realize they’re no diffrent than the chayalim.

To #13 and #15
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To #13 and #15

Please read #11 again. I said that “frum” does not equal “chareidi”. That there are other frum groups besides for chareidim and not to forget that. I do not need a history lesson, #15. And please note that the Rasha”b withdrew from Agudat Yisrael just a few years after they founded it. Also, please get off your high horse and don’t say that dati leumi don’t stick to Shulchan Aruch. And especially, I would like you to realize that the “frummer than you” culture has more to do with “you” than with what Hashem wants in this world. So, stop… Read more »

To #9
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To #9

They have suggested mandatory conscription for girls and it has been unanimously vetoed again and again. No one in the government is interested in it; they do not see value in forcing girls to draft and they believe it is completely unnecessary.

Probably, if it weren’t for the feminists, girls would be out of the army already. But today that’s not PC, so it won’t happen. Leaving the status quo suits everyone just fine.

  Retuning the Chareidi mindset
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Retuning the Chareidi mindset

no 6 referred to the Chareidi indifference to the dangerous mindless insensitive expulsions from Gush Katif.That gives us some insight into the problem. In some people’s’ eyes all Jews are not equal. We see that also in the elitist kolel culture where the Kolel yungerman who goes to work loses his status as does his wife and children.We see it when the Sephardi alters his name so that his children will be able to get into the elitist Ashkenazi school! The Chareidi world also has to start seeing the outside world as a place where they might have to venture… Read more »

whats more embarrassing now
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whats more embarrassing now

true I AGREE such an event is embarrassing, but now that its happening,will be more embarrassing that not much come, shows the world that we dont care

what more
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what more

they made frum divisions of the IDF, what more do they want, to live on public assistance and not give anything to the land (Land) they live in which protects them? HaShem protects, but one must show some level of respect to any place which gives a person shelter, and this is Eretz haKodesh…..

Boruch N. Hoffinger   'HaKohaine '           BS"D
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Boruch N. Hoffinger 'HaKohaine ' BS"D

‘Todah’ to all…very interesting comments…great photos!

learning may be important, but...
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learning may be important, but...

isnt defending the holy land in which you want to learn torah more important? without those people that go to the army, israel would be history, wouldnt you want to protect your country if it is so deeply attached to your religion?

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