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    Kallahs Without Makeup Paid

    Following a rise in use of makeup among female ultra-Orthodox students in Israel, a seminary offers $265 to each girl agreeing not to put on makeup for her wedding. Full Story

    S. African Shluchim Farbreng

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    Attractive and not Attracting
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    Attractive and not Attracting

    There is nothing wrong with a Kallah wearing makeup! Aderabe! She should look beautiful at her wedding. Obviously with Taam and aidelkeit. I think this is a very wrong step to take. Make guide lines etc, but to encourage them davke not to look beautiful is downright wrong and can have the wrong affect in many ways!

    what????
    Guest
    what????

    what’s next? should the kallah wear a plain white blouse and skirt?

    The gemora
    Guest
    The gemora

    Make up has its place in our culture, the gemora discusses it at several occasions, and preventing frum women from accessing it will in the long term cause problems with relations.

    so misnagdish
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    so misnagdish

    this is def not our way. we are suppose to look good and this is one of the first things the Rebbe mentioned when taking the first tour thru Machon Chanah. The REbbe said ‘where are the mirrors? the girls rooms should have mirrors

    Pathetic!
    Guest
    Pathetic!

    One of the most important days of her life!
    She is compared to a queen!
    I would NOT feel happy on my wedding-day without make-up!
    With so many other serious problems in the world, this makes me scratch my head and wonder if I am just dreaming a bad dream!

    Moral of the story is:
    Guest
    Moral of the story is:

    For the right price, everything is for sale.

    sick!
    Guest
    sick!

    this is going way 2 far….sick just sick ppl

    This is biased!
    Guest
    This is biased!

    I am a bochur, can I also sign up for the $265. I PROMISE not to wear any makeup at my wedding (or ever for that matter).

    For an additional $500, I will come to the wedding without pants. let me know if the offer still stands.

    calm down
    Guest
    calm down

    i think they r totally right for doing this- u guys r so judgemental my goodness.

    you guys are nuts
    Guest
    you guys are nuts

    the chossen needs to be attracted to her without make up and if he is not at the time of the wedding he should not get marreid to her.

    LoL
    Guest
    LoL

    To number 8- you are funny!

    and my thought is, nope, its not worth it. The most imp day of her life for a measly 200 bucks? I wonder how many will actually do it.

    over board
    Guest
    over board

    i AM A female and although i don’t wear makeup for personal reasons ie i like my own natural complextion i think for a chasuna day it’s important because the kalla should be most attractive for her newly husband and she may be sick to the stomach from stress yes the chasunah day is stressful and be pale from fasting so makeup appliled properly does her credit and is certainly a mitzva!

    minim meminim shoinim
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    minim meminim shoinim

    now I know why the world is crazy. How about paying for the ugliest woman with the ugliest dress and no Jewelery. just to make the point.

    Some people are just plain crazy and if there are no real Rabbonim who speak out against this meshigas we have all gone off the deep end.

    Lol
    Guest
    Lol

    not worth the 265 bucks not to wear makeup on her wedding day.

    make up with tznius
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    make up with tznius

    there is nothing wrong on make up, as long as u wear it in a aidel way. i dont understand why pay not to use, because even if people will do so and not put it on for the weding, tehy would continue doing so other times

    n.g
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    n.g

    omg for $200 000 i wouldnt agree to do this! insanity!!!!!

    ???
    Guest
    ???

    the money is definitely not worth the precious day of her marriage! insane!

    Ok ,...........................
    Guest
    Ok ,...........................

    OK so everyone can wear makeup but not too much cuz thats ugily if it looks fake and is overused then thats gross

    I dont get it
    Guest
    I dont get it

    Isn’t the whole point of makeup especially for a Kalla on her holiest day? Isn’t that using it for Kedusha? Wasn’t it stressed to us so many times how the Noshim Tzedkanios took great pains to dress for their husbands?

    Hmmm
    Guest
    Hmmm

    So its not ok to wear makeup at your wedding, but it is ok to bow down to abusive authority in the name of money. Misplaced priorities I should think.

    Laaniyas Dayti
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    Laaniyas Dayti

    The time has come for Lubavitchers (as those commenting here) to ask themselves: Are you culturally Western Society or are you culturally Chassidishe people? The opinios – Nu. The vehemence and the negativity shmecked fun a miessen moker. It is malodorous. Most important to this: You want to “dress-up” like Western mode – Nu. But to say that this is what the Rebbe wanted or meant, and that this is rooted in Torah (just because the gemara mentions the practical halachos around the use of makeup) is fooling oneself. If there was ever a midah that distinguished Chabad from others… Read more »

    up the anty
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    up the anty

    I say give $500 bucks for promising to wear skirts that are BELOW the knees, and any kind of foot-covering instead of going around with bare feet.
    IT’S WORTH THE MONEY!!!!

    nisht normal
    Guest
    nisht normal
    ???
    Guest
    ???

    i agree 100% with what #20 said.
    money is the “avodah zarah” of the generation.
    this makes no sense…

    Every man has his price
    Guest
    Every man has his price

    How much are they paying for a chosson who doesn’t trim his beard before the wedding?
    Not to wear make-up needs higher renumerations.

    the world has gone mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Guest
    the world has gone mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Rabbi Pinchos Woolstone
    Guest
    Rabbi Pinchos Woolstone

    The Charedi world is going mad.
    Ridiculous chumros are the order of the day
    Every women should look her best for her husband and for friends and the world with whom she mixes.
    Men shouls always be dress in clean fitting suits which make them well presented.

    makeup
    Guest
    makeup

    WE LOVE MAKEUP YES we DO

    TO #21
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    TO #21

    YOU EITHER are male or are a very narrow minded woman. Which incidentally is the opposite of Chabad. I am very happy to have worn makeup at my wedding and not only that I PAID SOMEONE TO PUT IT ON MY FACE!! I don’t usually wear makeup but when i do, my kids feel good. So as they say in ‘english’ gay feif!

    ridiculous
    Guest
    ridiculous

    i can not understand this!! so the girl will feel ugly on her wedding day! woww, isnt that tznius?

    Too much make up is not good
    Guest
    Too much make up is not good

    Grow up. Too much makeup is against halacha and unrefined. this money offer is just to fine down people.

    The $265 should go charity
    Guest
    The $265 should go charity

    The $265 should go to charity people who really need it could benefit from it. Blackmail should not be used! I don’t understand what hold the heads have over the girls once the girls leave the seminary to get married.

    huh?
    Guest
    huh?

    How very PATRIARCHAL,
    hmm, I wonder if it the MUSLIM influence….

    Bottom line, Judaism is not supposed to be some kind of cult…

    what next?
    Guest
    what next?

    Israeli Rabbonim are coming out with stronger and stronger “halachic laws” but this not only backfires but is against the torah.Young people need to be inspired not constantly told everything is forbidden and given confusing information.

    Money better spent
    Guest
    Money better spent

    They should use the money to teach girls how to put on make up in a tzniusdike fashion…not bribing them and having them feel miserable on thier wedding day. Anyone who wears white needs a little makeup….

    Takana from Ezra hasofer
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    Takana from Ezra hasofer

    Ezra Hasofer made a takana(upon the return of the Yidden from Bavel) that peddlers should travel throughout Eretz Yisrael selling makeup for the women. Also the Midrash relates that make up fell with the mon in the midbar! (Doesn’t say which brand ) It is a mitzva for a married woman to take care to look beautiful, obviously in a tzniusdike and eidel way. Mind you, not a bad idea to pay girls 500 dollars to wear skirts that cover the knee even when sitting (answer from the Rebbe on required length of skirts.) ….There’s a story in the gemara… Read more »

    make up
    Guest
    make up

    The Rebbe told Rabbi Groner that he should say the entireTehillim on the day of his wedding and when he finishes he should say it a second time. He then told him that he should tell his kallah to try and say the whole Tehillim as well but it should not interfare with the preperations for the wedding(not exact words).
    Meaning putting on makeup and getting the hair done and looking beautiful for the wedding is just as important as saying tehillim.

    Misnagdish? Amoratzish!
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    Misnagdish? Amoratzish!

    There is an opinion for those of you who are not aware of it, that very eidel, chassidishe girls/women do not wear makeup. Accept that this is an hanhogoh to be lauded. You don’t want to, fine by me, just don’t hit out at those of us who have a higher standard than the normal. And as far as my Lubavitch sisters are concerned, wanting to be lifnei meshuras hadin, should not be the issue. We have horrendous problems the other way!

    nuts
    Guest
    nuts

    instead of paying them not to use the money to help the ones who cant pay for for it, this has no place in chabad chasidus

    To #38
    Guest
    To #38

    Re your comment “There is an opinion for those of you who are not aware of it, that very eidel, chassidishe girls/women do not wear makeup”
    well i have an opinion that all chasidishe nice girls/woman wear a black loose robe over themselves to stop them looking feminine…..i know its a high standard but we dont want to go the other way do we??!!

    the Rebbe
    Guest
    the Rebbe

    himself writes in a letter printed in liku”s that in previous generations is was improper to wear makeup, but because its accepted today its proper to counter that with other hidurim like nesh”k.!!

    Suggestion for comments #21 and #38.
    Guest
    Suggestion for comments #21 and #38.

    I think #21 and #38 should get together as policymakers for us all, being as they have exclusive insight into the Rebbe and Chassidus’s opinion, and a monopoly on absolute moral certainty.
    Seriously though, just thinking of the bare minimum number of souls that #21 and #38 are influencing (their own children) scares me.

    Let me get this straight...
    Guest
    Let me get this straight...

    In order for girls not wear makeup at their weddings, we PAY them??? That’s the way to be me’hader? Teach them avarice, bribery, whatever, it’s all ok. Just make sure not to wear that assur, assur makeup!

    in 20 yrs from now, the world will be...
    Guest
    in 20 yrs from now, the world will be...

    the world is going nuts. in another decade or so, brides will be paid to wear their hair in a casual ponytail at their weddings, and makeup will be totally banned. in another 10 yrs, it’ll be that the gown will turn into a black suit with no jewelery. then, the kalla will be ordered to be sure that her suit is less elegant than her guests, so that she wont feel haughty on her wedding day.

    whats up with the world?!?!!?!?!?!!?!!?

    No 40/42
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    No 40/42

    Please answer rationally. This is a chassidishe minhag, not my personal one. If you’ve never heard of it or been educated that way, that is a problem. The Rebbe n”a came out very forcefully about skirt lengths and sheital/hair coverings. You have no right to presume that the Rebbe n”a would not have approved of this hanhoga. Just, just perhaps if our children were educated to be more particular about all our standards, we would have a fewer children going ‘off the derech’. The real question one needs to ask is why are so many people here so irate about… Read more »

    to #45
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    to #45

    did the rebbes wife wear make up??i rest my case. its interesting how youve slipped from make up into skirt lengths whats the connection?

    may be religious but not jewish
    Guest
    may be religious but not jewish

    where is the mokor for this?!!?!?!!? What kind of a new religion are they starting… what are they? Christian Nuns? 1000 for any kallah who swears to celibacy

    agree w #22
    Guest
    agree w #22

    i agree with #22-
    this should be done better to those that start dressing TZNIUS- take care of the basics, and dont worry abt make up-we have enough 2 deal with till then….

    just ranting and rambling
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    just ranting and rambling

    these idiotic takonos that are being invented by the even more idiotic rabbis, are to try to stop our youth from acting and looking like goyim. Except for the fact that the ones that take them seriously are the youth that behave properly, and for those whom these takanos are being put down will have just one more laugh. Now to invent takanos that are so absurdly ridiculous, can cause alot more damage then anything else. These type of takanos do not get to the root of the problem. The problem is as follows: We have to teach our daughters… Read more »

    SO SILLY
    Guest
    SO SILLY

    RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!THATS NOT WHATS GOING TO BRING MOSHIAH CLOSER !!!!COME UP WITH OTHER SUGESTIONS FOR GOOD KINDNESS,AND OTHER GOOD DEEDS ,THAT MAKES NO SENSE !!!!!1

    To #46
    Guest
    To #46

    The rebbetzin wore makeup. ask any lubavitcher. ever heard the story where she gave a kid her lipstick to color with? and if u no anything about anything u can tell from the few pictures we have of our beautiful rebbetzin that she was clearly wearing makeup.

    what are you people so upset about???
    Guest
    what are you people so upset about???

    A little makeup is fine and OK. It’s when you start putting on makeup to emulate the GOYISHE SHIKSA’DIK “look” – because that’s what you (or your best friends’ sister’s second cousin’s sister-in-law….) had on at so-and-so’s chasuna – then you are in very dangerous territory.
    Again – it all depends EXACTLY what is the standard that you are trying to replicate – is it people magazine etc. etc. or l’havdil elef havdolos – the rebbitzens of chabad?

    hahahaha
    Guest
    hahahaha

    Is this for real?

    Am I reading the colbert report?

    ha!!!!

    pay me pay me, I’m a guy and never wear make up…!

    hahaha, this was the funniest thing I saw on COL!

    Yes, ladies, don’t wear make up, don’t dress nice and eat twice more than you need, that way you will be happy.

    To # 8
    Guest
    To # 8

    OMG You made me laugh!!!!!!! I thought this pce. of news was a joke!!!! you gotta be kiding….

    re: rebbetzin makeup
    Guest
    re: rebbetzin makeup

    That is correct, our Rebbetzin did wear makeup – even when she was in the hospital, and heard that the Rebbe was coming to see her, she asked the nurse to help her put on makeup so the Rebbe wouldn’t see how she looked in pain. and btw, my opinion about this is – “before their wedding the girls are exempted from the school’s strict rules, leading many brides to put on heavy makeup.” – that is precisely what probably was the problem- their rules were unnecessarily strict, so of course once the girls are exempted from the rules they’ll… Read more »

    to #51
    Guest
    to #51

    my question was rhetorical! Im saying of course she wore make up and that its a given the rebbe approved.

    thats pathetic!
    Guest
    thats pathetic!

    girls should look thioer best on thier wedding day!
    they should fell beautiful!

    i am a girl who will definitely not fall for 265 naarishkeiten, and ill definitely be glowing makeup on my wedding day. im normal.
    Guest
    i am a girl who will definitely not fall for 265 naarishkeiten, and ill definitely be glowing makeup on my wedding day. im normal.

    i totally dont agree with this gig.
    they haveto be attractive to their husbands
    i think this fund is ridiculous!
    gematria 265 – reish samach hei – haras.
    i dont think makeup is bad!!! and what will the kalla use those 265 for? not makeup definitely
    wow i wonder if now on collive we will see daughters of poor people getting married, without a trace of makeup, for her family needs those 265 precious dollars.
    invent a few robot daughters for additional 265’s! isnt that a great idea?

    Mushkie
    Guest
    Mushkie

    First of all: the problem doesnt begin at this point. it begina way back wehre these people think that the mitzvah of tznius = looking ugly. That is the basis for this. Second of all: a wedding is a happy time! Hashem himself prepared Chavah for her wedding with Adam…They’re trying to ADD to Torah………………….it DOES say “do not add and do not detract” …………….adding was mentioned first, i believe for this reason….. This is completely ridiculous. and perhaps the reason why Kallahs are “caking” the make-up on is becuase they finally want to look “pretty” the only day of… Read more »

    hooray 4 #22
    Guest
    hooray 4 #22

    u should add another 200 4 elbows and collar bones and another 50 for clothes that arent skin tight

    NO make up for her husband.
    Guest
    NO make up for her husband.

    Real nice. The women in mitzrayim used to make themselves beutiful and here, her first night. she is to be an ugly drag. Nice. Complete oposit of Torah.

    To #45, from #42
    Guest
    To #45, from #42

    #45 wrote: “You have no right to presume that the Rebbe n”a would not have approved of this hanhoga.” I say: That’s exactly my point: it is authors #21 and #38 who claim with certainty that the Rebbe would approve of degrading a bride’s attempt at beauty. Then, with their imagined knowledge-ability, they preach to the “uneducated” vast majority of commentators here (many with their own Hora’os and stories with which to extrapolate a possible Rebbe position). #45 writes: “The real question one needs to ask is why are so many people here so irate about a chassidishe hanhoga? Are… Read more »

    Maybe for a full tuition or a million $$$$
    Guest
    Maybe for a full tuition or a million $$$$

    No Kallah should even think of this unless she is being bribed with Full tuition or lots of money…maybe the green environmentalist people will want to do this to and sponsor it lol

    to 5
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    to 5

    its sad taht some ppl said that they would not be happy with out make up i should think that you would be so happy that you wont even notice

    cousins 4eva!!
    Guest
    cousins 4eva!!

    we think that most ppl only get married once, and deserve the right to look nice on their most precious day of their life.

    note
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    note

    From what it seems to me, this seminary is not Lubavitch. If that is correct, I don’t understand what everyone is getting so excited about. In other circles they preach not wearing makeup (at least in public) and the day of the wedding included. This is not the way we do things, and there is nothing to get excited over.

    You guys are all missing the point!
    Guest
    You guys are all missing the point!

    Who decided that in order to be beautiful a girl needs to have makeup on? Just yesterday I saw a friend without makeup for the first time, and I looked at her, and she looked ten times as good as she usually does with makeup! (She claims she doesn’t have color- DUH, she covered it up with makeup! She has plenty of natural color…) They can pay me, though, because I never wear makeup- and am not planning on wearing it for four hours of shvitzing dancing- and didn’t date with makeup- and for some odd reason my chosson doesn’t… Read more »

    change that....
    Guest
    change that....

    for all my shkalim i was thinking in dollars…you’d need at least three times that for a months budget….but nevertheless its not a sum to be laughed at…

    what in the world???
    Guest
    what in the world???

    ok ppl need more brains im selling them too for 265$ for ppl who do wear make up at their [email protected]#$%^&*()_+

    69...
    Guest
    69...

    not helpful. so now, no matter what you do, youll get the money. basically, its free money, bc who cares what you do?
    is it a wedding gift, or a prize?

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