by a CH hostess
For you, sending your child to Crown Heights might happen once or twice a year. It’s a meaningful and exciting experience for your son or daughter. But for many of us who live here, hosting isn’t occasional, it’s constant. Nearly every Yom Tov, multiple weekends a month, week after week of extending ourselves beyond natural limits, sharing our space, and sacrificing our privacy.
We do it because we see your need. Because we live in Crown Heights and we know what it’s like when your child needs a place to stay, when they’re far from home and need to feel welcome somewhere. So we show up. We push our own needs aside, time and again, to accommodate your spouse, your child, your family’s situation.
What most don’t realize is that Yom Tov is also our break. It’s the one time many of us pause from work, from the daily grind. When we host during that precious family time, we’re not just offering a bed. We’re sacrificing the small amount of rest and downtime we get.
So when the experience feels one-sided, when there’s no acknowledgment, no communication, no sense that our effort was even noticed, it doesn’t just sting. It genuinely hurts.
Hosting isn’t transactional. It’s relational. We open our homes with care and goodwill, but that opening comes at a real cost to us personally. We’re sharing our space: the living room where we’d normally relax after a long week, the bathroom our own kids now have to wait for, the kitchen table where we’d sit quietly with our spouse after the kids go to bed. We’re sharing our time: the hours we spend shopping, cooking, cleaning, setting up, and staying aware of another person’s needs in our home. We’re sharing not just endless food, but the mental energy of planning meals that will satisfy a teenager’s appetite when we’d normally throw together something simple for our little ones. We’re breaking our family rhythm: the easy flow of our shabbos or yom tov, the moments of quiet, the ability to just be in our own home without thinking about someone else. We’re sacrificing our rest. Our privacy. Our ability to discipline our own children or have a hard conversation without an audience.
And we do it willingly. But when that sacrifice is met with complete silence, it feels like we’re invisible. Like we don’t matter. There’s an unspoken understanding when someone hosts: you give because you care, and acknowledgment is how the other person says, “I see you, and what you did mattered.” Without that, it feels like being taken for granted.
I don’t think most parents mean to hurt us. I think sometimes you just don’t realize that silence communicates something too – oh so loudly. And what it communicates is that maybe our effort was expected, not appreciated.
If you’re reading this and thinking, “Oh no, that might be me,” you’re not alone. Most parents have no idea what it feels like to be hosting sleeping guests constantly. The good news? It’s actually really simple to make this work for everyone. The families who get it right do just a few key things that turn hosting from heavy to heartwarming:
1. They communicate with both of us.
If you’re sending your son to your husband’s brother, please don’t leave his wife out of the conversation! She’s the one actually managing the hosting, the cooking, the linens, the logistics. When plans are made only between the men, it can feel like we’re being sidelined in our own homes.
A simple message goes so far: “Thank you so much for having my boys. I know it’s a lot of work for you and I really appreciate that you were willing to do this for us.” That’s it. Just recognition that a real person is preparing for your child. This isn’t just a bed they’re taking. It’s our home, our kitchen, our time, our energy, our headspace, an added mental load, and more.
2. They tell us about meals in advance.
This is huge. Some Crown Heights homes are set up to feed crowds at the drop of a hat. Most of us aren’t. If my own kids are little, I might normally serve something simple: sourdough and avocado, lox and two pieces of leftover schnitzel from last night’s supper. But when I know a guest is coming, that clearly won’t suffice. It requires meal planning, shopping, and cooking a full Shabbos meal that will actually fill a 16-year-old’s appetite (did I mention the kitchen clean-up?)
So when I’ve spent time and money preparing, and your son casually mentions he’s eating at “Rubashkin’s” without anyone telling me ahead of time, it can feel frustrating because the precious time I took from my own family was all for naught. And by the same token, if they will be coming for meals, please let us know. Better yet, ask if it’s okay or if perhaps our family needs some quiet family time for certain meals. Sensitivity and communication makes all the difference.
3. They teach their kids to show up as mentchen.
The guests who are remembered fondly? They’re the ones who naturally pitch in, getting up after each course to clear their plate instead of waiting to be served. They’re the ones who connect with our children, maybe playing a game, reading a story, or just showing genuine interest. Hosting means our own children often get less of our attention than usual, and when a guest helps fill that space with kindness, it transforms the whole experience for our family.
They also show up on time for meals. When the meal starts around 1pm and someone arrives after 3pm (because they slept in or prioritized learning before the meal), the host has already cleared, cleaned, and moved on with their day. By that point, we’re finally sitting down to relax and give our own children the attention they’ve been waiting for all through the hosting and the morning of prepping. Expecting us to stop everything and serve a private meal at that point feels very inconsiderate of our family’s needs.
4. They acknowledge and express gratitude
These parents put themselves in the shoes of the host and communicate thoughtfully throughout. They text before their son arrives: “Thank you again for doing this for us. My son will arrive at 9pm tonight, he’ll have eaten supper before so no need to prepare for him.”
Who check in during: “How is this working out for your family? Is there anything I can do to make this easier for you? Are you okay with hosting all the meals or should I make arrangements for the night meals so you can have a break to spend time with your kids?”
Who follow up after: “Thank you again for opening your home to my boys for two weeks and taking such good care of them. I know that hosting on top of everything you already do isn’t simple, and I really appreciate how much thought and effort you put into it.”
These aren’t grand gestures. They’re just basic mentchlichkeit. And they transform the entire experience.
Saying thank you can’t just be token words after your kids are back home and we’ve been ignored for two weeks while we’re fully busy taking care of them, unnoticed, as if it’s all just a given. That silence speaks volumes.
The bottom line
Hosting is one of the most vulnerable acts of giving. We invite your children into our homes, into our families, into the small sacred space we’ve carved. We do it because we see your need. We do it because we care. (And yes, sometimes we say yes even when we’re running on empty, because it feels easier than disappointing someone.)
But we’re also human. Hachnosas orchim is a mitzvah but a mitzvah doesn’t mean being taken for granted. It doesn’t mean our effort should go unnoticed or our sacrifice should be assumed. Recognition isn’t about repayment, it’s about basic respect and mentchlichkeit.
There’s a reason the very first words we say each morning are “Modeh Ani,” thanking Hashem for returning our neshama and giving us another day. It teaches us that even waking up, something we might consider automatic, is actually a gift that requires acknowledging.
The Hebrew term for gratitude, “Hakaras HaTov,” literally means “recognition of the good” – pausing to recognize that good exists in our lives and that someone made it possible. Our very identity as Yehudim comes from this concept. When Leah named her son Yehudah, she said, “This time I will thank Hashem.” The word “Yehudim” itself is rooted in gratitude.
We find another example in Pirkei Avos: “Derech eretz kadma l’Torah,” basic human decency precedes Torah (Vayikra Rabbah 9:3). Even before we discuss the mitzvah of hachnosas orchim, we must discuss derech eretz: treating people with basic courtesy, communication, and respect.
So when we talk about acknowledgement and recognition for the Crown Heights women who have been hosting your children, it’s not about being needy, it’s about bringing awareness to something fundamental to who we are as a people.
So if you’re a parent sending your child to Crown Heights, I’m asking you: please see us. Communicate with us. Don’t bypass the woman of the home by communicating with her husband only. Teach your child to be considerate and mentchlich. And say thank you, not as an afterthought when the hosting is all done, not as obligatory words, but as genuine recognition of what’s being given.
Because when you do, something beautiful happens. Hosting stops feeling like a burden or requirement and becomes what it’s meant to be: a wholehearted expression of giving that strengthens all of us.

I really hear and respect this — hosting can be tiring and it’s true that many Crown Heights families open their homes far beyond what’s comfortable. But I think the tone of this post misses something deep about what the Rebbe showed us regarding guests. The Rebbe cherished every single Tishrei guest — not as an imposition, but as a privilege. The Rebbe repeatedly spoke about the zechus of being a host in Crown Heights, that it’s part of what makes the neighborhood a “Makom Torah, Tefillah, and Gemilus Chassadim.” He encouraged people to welcome bochurim and visitors with joy,… Read more »
I really get what you’re saying about the Rebbe and the zechus of hosting — there’s no question it’s a beautiful mitzvah. But at the same time, hosting in Crown Heights today is a lot. People have limits, and even with the best intentions, constantly opening your home can get exhausting. Following the Rebbe’s example is inspiring, but it doesn’t mean hosts shouldn’t set boundaries or expect a little consideration. The mitzvah isn’t diminished by saying “no” sometimes — it just means we’re keeping the joy in hosting alive, instead of turning it into a stress point. Gratitude and communication… Read more »
The author writes often that she does it gladly. And it’s still a lot. And it’s so so so valid for her to ask for some basic decency. While we BH host a lot, and we genuinely love it – it totally takes a toll. You have to be “on” and I don’t even live in crown heights! Of course it’s a privilege, and she also deserves to hear a thank you. And check ins etc et.
Yes but you as Shluchim fundraise for hosting guests
As if it even covers 10% of a shliach’s costs! You’re speaking from a very privileged perspective. Honestly, get a grip. If you think shluchim have it so easy, maybe try going on shlichus yourself. For most shluchim, this is their only source of parnassah, and fundraising is a constant struggle — not some minor inconvenience.
couldnt agree more very true statement
There isn’t anyone that’s saying that shluchim aren’t being Moser nefesh, but to rely on crown heights isn’t Moser nefesh, either it’s too hard and the shlichus is not viable, or the fundraising can take place from local balabatim, if a shliach is relying on crown heights tzedaka, they don’t get to play the mesiras nefesh card.
You’ve never tried fundraising before…
NEWS: not all Shluchim fundraise for guests . In the home I grew up in we didn’t
One answer you failed to mention is that some guest come and show such disrespect like undermineng our parnossa by selling in street like in shuk machneh yhuda
The trash
The terror in770
Pushing and shoving elderly people old enough to be your grandfather
Is why people are refusing to open their homes to orchim during tishray
That has nothing to do with the hosts, that problem with what SOME bochurim are doing is a long existing problem that only has one solution in order to fix, and that is the mashpi’im in those yeshivos giving their bochurim WRONG and INCORRECT education.
It’s the rebbes shchunah
Obviously you’re not comparing today’s orchim to the orchim of the past? Right? Was simchas beis hashoaiva the same then as it was then? Doing a mitzvah doesn’t absolve anyone from being a mentch. I honestly hope this was written either as a joke or from a place of uninformed ignorance. Seriously, read the room.
Absolutely agree,
Just because one person has a mitzvah to do, does NOT mean that it becomes someone else’s right to make it difficult.
I think you may have missed the point of the article. Two things can be true at once: it’s a privilege and it’s a lot. Recognizing the human side doesn’t take away from the spiritual one. And the zchus for the host doesnt excuse or justify this behavior on the part of the guests. Think about sending your child to work in a Shliach’s day camp – it’s a zchus to be the Rebbe’s shliach for the summer, and still your child should be treated with respect and gratitude for their work on behalf of the Shliach whom they’re helping.… Read more »
Are you telling this post writer and CH host that they should do xyz because of something you decided is the Rebbe’s view? Really? At best, and IF you are a CH resident who hosts, YOU can selflessly do as you see fit in your house, aligned wit what you think is the Rebbe’s view on what you should do your in house. And leave everyoine else’s house out of your scope. Heenay Ma Tov Ooma No-im is how everyone’s house is,
Being the rebbes guest doesn’t mean free reign to make a hostile takeover of the community.
Being a guest means behaving like a guest, not the master of the house.
It’s not about hosting being tiring or uncomfortable but about survival.
Families are barely surviving thanks to the utter lack of leadership and care of most of our community institutions and leaders.
The Rebbe set up organizations and gave clear directives to schools about supporting the large families with affordable tuition and affordable housing but people didn’t listen
This article was written for People like you
so on behalf on the bochur i will say thank you. i am not a bochur.
and while we are talking about it, i also say a thank you to all those jews who didn’t receive a thank you for whatever thing they did that deserved a thank you. in the future you will receive your reward from Hashem.
I think you missed the point of the letter. Maybe you should go back and read it again.
and i am not a bochur. i almost never stay at host’s houses. doesn’t make sense to tell me to re read the letter.
In the same sichas where the Rebbe encourages hosting his guests by emphasizing the big zchus that it, the Rebbe starts and finishes (and in the middle) by thanking and felicitating the hosts!!
So if already you’re talking about the Rebbe, it goes without saying that the person’s article has a point and yes- the Rebbe thanked the hosts publicly, profusely and at multiple times. So please do not counter the writers’ point, if you care about the Rebbe you should rather encourage guests to thank etc the hosts in the Rebbes name.
From this comment you can tell you don’t live in crown heights and don’t understand the idea of constant hosting
this woman is asking for basic menshlichkeit and consideration while she gives and gives and gives. and she does it happily but wants to not be treated like a shmata. and you’re saying ‘suck it up.’ goodness gracious
Chabad has a long way to go when it comes to Hakaras Hatov
Have so many points to write on this article, 1. Even if you are living in crown heights and taking the Rebbe’s words to heart Doesn’t mean that this directive is for everyone living in crown heights, if the Rebbe would be here physically now I am sure he will take into consideration your family dynamic etc. 2. What it sounds like to me is there is an element here of an unhealthy guilt trip, that people from outside of crown heights expect you to always be available is nonsense and not realistic. It is okay to say I’m sorry,… Read more »
Also another point to consider
When someone from crown heights is visiting eretz yisrael they are not so welcoming sometimes rude and behave as if a rich uncle arrived
When Americans go to EY they stay at Hotels or rented apartment’s not in people’s homes.
No one should expect to be hosted especially now that there are airbnbs. A guest should shop for food, cook some meals, not expect to be catered to. It’s an imposition and so many are so rude and entitled!
Many of the residents who run Airbnbs and similar operations treat hachnasas orchim as business with intent to earn large profits. Nothing wrong with charging enough to break even and cover this or that. Also, literally none of these operations are good for singles or short-term visitors. If this is inaccurate please tell me where there are options like this.
There are 1-beds. studios, plenty for singles and short-term! But those looking for a free ride aren’t looking there.
One example is $120/night for probably 100 sq feet if the bathroom is included, this is the problem. Guests need not be responsible to pay for rent on unbooked nights or to help cover tuition for your children. Further, I guarantee that amount of space does not cost over $1000 a night if you calculate rent per square foot. This is wrong.
It swings both ways, the amount of bochurim who came with one-way tickets intending on fundraising their way back, or asking for money to buy a meal at a restaurant, like dude, I can’t afford to take my own family to a restaurant, and you’re kvetching that someone is making a profit off this? Idk if it’s a joke, but you must know that crown heights isn’t a bottomless pot of gold, עניי עירך קודמים. Etc. Mit a mol everyone gets upset that the hosting families g-d forbid make a profit🤣🤣🤣
Is why. for the reason I have no idea why. They feel spoiled like a child at home with their parents and siblings taking care of them.
Maybe if you felt that way about yidden you would see it from a different angle. We all have family.
Written so well!
I have to agree with every point the writer mentioned. The end result, I no longer take guests that are not family.
BH that we have large families, huge grocery bills etc.. I no longer feel that I should take away from my children,or close family members, in order host other good Jews.
As a bochur, I want to sincerely thank all the families who open their homes to us. Please know there’s no intention of being disrespectful or ungrateful, Tishrei is so packed with tefillos, farbrengens, and sidrei limmud that it’s hard to find a moment to properly say “thank you.” Every bit of your care, hospitality, and patience is deeply appreciated and doesn’t go unnoticed, even if the whirlwind of Tishrei makes it hard to express in the moment.
If you found a moment to sleep a moment to eat a meal a moment to use the bathroom in your hosts house – you can find a moment to say thank you
It’s ten second process
Please don’t use tefillos and sidrei limmud as an excuse, it’s pathetic
But being too busy to say thank you because you were so holy is not even נבל ברשות התורה
It’s just Stam degenerate behavior
Mechanichim- take note and speak with your bochrim
A Chassid is Mesudar also refers to having their act together to be a mentch, and have their head screwed on straight. Having hakoras hatov should be at the top of your list.
There is no Seder in Lubavitch anymore
Everything is a free for all
אם אין דרך ארץ אין תורה
Certainly you don’t believe that the Rebbe didn’t expect the acknowledgement and thank yous the writer writes of!
Thank you for having me , it was a wonderful experience. And I do apologize again for eating elsewhere and showing up late. We appreciate all that you did .
I would love to get thanks from my guests and I know I should be doing this, without regard for reward. But as Tevye said, would it ruin some great plan, if we got some thanks from the Al-mighty in the form of Bonei, Chayei u’Mezona and Shidduchim?
Surely Hashem is repaying you back!
It’s one of the reasons I said yes this year, when we are going through a personal difficultly. I did it as a z’chus that the difficulty should be resolved!!!
At last, someone speaking the truth and sharing what needs to be said – I feel seen. I often noticed this with guests and I hope the people who need to hear this message will take the time to read and truly take this to heart. I feel some people are twisting the words – the points above (zchus etc) dont absolve guests / parents of basic mentchlichkeit.
It sounds like you need to cut down on hosting, and be assertive and clearly communicate your expectations to your husband (in the case of his brother asking him to host his son, your husband should know ahead of time to say that a parent call you directly, for example) and parents and kids that you do host. Your being overwhelmed and upset at not being appreciated are very human feelings, but you need to take responsibility for your own needs, boundaries, and communication. You will be healthier and happier when you understand what is and isn’t in your control,… Read more »
agree with this if a lack of thank you and someone showing up late is so so upsetting – it might mean you are not in the position to host and that is ok people are not perfect, they are growing…. everyone has different strengh and weaknesses… some dont need so much validation so they might not give it – people usually give what they need (think 5 love lang) we are all different. its good to know yourself and live within your needs and push yourself to grow when you can, but tishrei with all the hecticness might not… Read more »
Yup you nailed it. Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe written a little too sharp but truth all the way
This comment really sidesteps the point. The article wasn’t about one person’s boundaries, it’s about a community norm and bringing awareness to something that affects many hosts who quietly do their best. Of course every host should know their limits, but that doesn’t cancel the responsibility of basic decency. Setting boundaries and expecting mentchlichkeit are two different things. Noticing a glaring absence of hakaras hatov isn’t emotional weakness; it’s our shared values being pointed out. I thought the writer was just saying what a lot of Crown Heights hosts quietly feel and she said it with a lot of grace.
Commentor you are part of the problem not the solution
Boundaries are very important.
You don’t have to take in sleeping guests.
I take only siblings for sleeping and not for a month…
Kinus is fine or a few days..
I take only for meals.
And i always tell my nephews nieces to let me know when they are coming and if they want to bring a friend they have to let me know so i can prepare a nice seat for them.
We have to know ourselves, our kochos and take our family consideration.
Actually no, people are made differently and her expectations listed above were completely reasonable. This isn’t her issue, but a prevelant lack of mentchlichkeit.
The kinnus video had a joke about folks coming over to stay…. it was funny.
Because there were shut off notices on our electric and gas
One thing you forgot to mention in the article are their hours.
Show up to go to sleep as my kids are waking up, and show back up during supper time!
For my kids to see this is a bit uneducational thinking that this is what the bochurim coming for tishrei do.
I don’t know if you ever heard of simchas bais basically where you dance throughout the night therefore you end up going to sleep at like 7:00 a.m. so when you host you should have in mind that their hours are going to be a little messed up we become nocturnal practically during this month but I do agree with some of this article facts are facts
when your guests are bochurim who are coming back at all hours (esp if they’ve been drinking) and their behavior is poor it’s hard to communicate how unacceptable it is without putting them down. it sets a horrible example
At the end of the day the Bochurim are the ones running Lubavitch today, along with their on going and everlasting Chayus, and Koch.
And looking at the qualitys in them, is deffintly a better lens for us and our children to look at what they do, do.
Of course you are not disagreesing with what I’m saying, just pointing it out.
CH used to open their homes for people to sleep.
These days they charge ridiculous amounts of money for theiur ‘hachnosas orchim’. The same people who would have guest now charge 5k for their basement.
Yesss!
This year was my first year coming in for Tishrei and yes I was shocked at the price I had to pay to share a squishy 1 bedroom apartment with 5 other people where the family were anyways away for yom tov!
I wouldn’t call that hachnosas orchim.
It’s charging because they can and they know that everyone needs a place so someone’s gonna pay.
It’s disgusting!
Do you know what a mortgage is
You are not owed anything it’s your choice to come
Next year you are more than welcome to stay home it won’t cost you anything
please dont judge people who now have to charge. it’s not disgusting, you dont have to stay there, you’re not entitled to a free hotel. life costs a fortune, why should someone work a full time job to pay for your free board if they can charge instead and not have work a job to fund your comforts? I dont get the griping over this.
Nothing wrong with charging, you should. A lot wrong with gouging, guests do not have to cover all your expenses that are not nogeah. Life costs for guests too. When you live in CH, you are by the Rebbe all the time. We should have to pay for a bed if it is more than just Shabbos. We should not expect extensive meals. Good rule of thumb, do not charge way more than the rent would be for that space amortized for days stayed.
I was going to write an article but I couldn’t have said it better.
I have much more to add though
One day ….
This is EXACTLY how I feel. I could have written this. Down to the detail about reaching out to husbands when everyone knows that it is the wife that is cooking and cleaning and hosting. This is the first Tishrei that I am really left feeling taken advantage of, because of the expectation from some people that it’s just a given that they can send family members in, while knowing how full our hands are.
Why you are not sending your kids or all your family not visiting your relatives around for the same time and same expectations? At least it will be fair and I think they will love to host you back.
Why you are not visiting your family during other YomTovs of summer where they can host you and your kids? Why all YT must be by you?
Just a thought – don’t pay summer camps – send your kids for few weeks elsewhere to all who want to come to Tishrei to you…
The bochurim who show up late – it’s not just about serving them privately but they need to be entertained privately now after we’ve just entertained for hours, that’s what i personally find challenging. they dont come to be ignored but they come when i just want to relax on the couch and turn off after a long morning of preparing, hosting…
And they shouldnt.
so if a bochur shows up for a meal after 3pm when it’s over already, the husband has left to take kids to mesibas shabbos or maybe is playing chess with a child in another room, the woman now has to serve the inconsiderate guest – should she ignore him and leave him to eat alone?
First though, say what time the meal is and set a time after which you cannot guarantee anyone will eat with them. For example, Shabbos lunch is at 2, if you come after 330 you will be on your own. The way these kids will learn is when there are consequences they do not like. Also no reason everything should always fall to the wife.
We live in Yerushalayim and consistently have 14 people around the table. It’s a tremendous zechus and joy, and simultaneously exhausting. In Eretz Yisroel, Friday is our day off of work – and we both work – and then we spend our day off cooking. Not complaining, but agreeing that it is both rewarding and tiring.
The points written here are 100% valid and should be taken into account. It is teaching the young ones to be mentchen.
Everything written above from the communication, showing, up, pitching in to clean up-every single thing should be shouted from the rooftops.
Kudos to the author. Unfortunately, there is little hope for the international “orchim”, but for the ones who actually can read english, circle it around to you everoyne you know.
and i’m deeply disappointed by how much pushback there is on this. she’s not saying she won’t hosts, hates hosting, etc. She’s saying “these specific things would help us not feel strained in hosting.” She’s asking for base level consideration…..how are people still complaining!
This is not just prevelant during Tishrei-this should be taken into account all year long.
As someone in shidduchim, I pay attention at my meals. Who helps clear and who just sits there like a prince time after time. Evern by getting up and clearing one round of plates. And I actually ask references if they say “shabbos host”.
Coming in to say thank you etc. Just being present and not sitting there like you are an entitled pasha.
Remember: you are always being watched and how you act, matters. Tishrei or not.
1.Sometimes we have to say no, in order to take care of ourselves so that we can take care of others!
2.Years ago many women did not have to go to work outside of the home. Today, working at a job out of the home and then coming home to take care of family, and guests can be very overwhelming!
3.In the past year grocery shopping has increased, that it might be hard for a family to feed additional guests!
Children must be trained from the youngest age to show appreciation and say thank you. Why does it seem like all the Israeli bochurim that come here were raised by wolves in the forest? Before Davening, we say “L’olam Yehei Adam”. We interpret it to mean one must ALWAYS be a “Mentch”. If it’s a Bochur that just doesn’t understand how much work is involved, maybe the host should educate him a bit about being a “Kofuy Tovah”! (With the preface that while we’re really grateful for the opportunity to perform the Mitzvah of Hachnosos Orchim, that doesn’t in any… Read more »
We can’t pay for our own food and rent.
We are squished in a two bedroom with five kids.
Add in the absolute extortion known as tuition.
And…
Nobody to turn to for a little help and relief.
That is the crown heights experience for most families. And still they are moiser nefesh to host because for the Rebbe.
May Hashem send moshiach now and take us all out of golus immediately lizchus the noshim tzidkonios of our generation.
Tuition is such an issue essentially because no one can afford it. This is circular though with a way out. Other communities have benefactors who help cover costs more than in ours. This is because they learn marketable skills and find practical parnassa. CH can do that too. The Rebbe says learning semicha is good. I am sure someone will correct me if this is inaccurate, but I do not believe he said everyone needs to work in chinuch, or go on shlichus. Once we address our lack of financial pillars, then the foundations of chinuch need no longer be… Read more »
Nice in theory
But practically it is those working at the better paying jobs (over 100 000k) that are getting hit from all ends the most, until they can’t afford a roof over their heads or food on the table. bc they’re too rich for benefits but rich enough to get squeezed beyond in tuition and taxes.
And post on the Hebrew speaking Chabad website
Subtle
Please, if you asked to eat somewhere, please show up.
It is not OK to have a family spend time and money to prepare for you and you don’t even bother to come.
Some hosts will say “oh you didn’t have to” or other similar phrases and alot of times I know they still want help but some people use that as a ticket to back out, a lot of times guests have a hard time feeling comfortable at your house, not that it’s your fault but it’s a matter of comfort to speak up and help. I personally for example every time I’ll stay or eat by someone I’ll try to bring a bottle of wine or a box of chocolates and my mother taught all of us to always be grateful… Read more »
They call and ask to come for Shabbos w 4 or 5 friends. Some ask to stay from Thursday to Sunday when they have a long off Shabbos. Hardly ever a “thank you” from the parents.
To be fair, as a young girl myself I know that half the time I sort out my own accommodation and my parents have nothing to do with it and don’t know where I’m staying…
That’s only for 1 year
We in ch have this week in week out yearly
I dont imagine they then get drunk and get into fights every night? Or maybe they get a hergesh to beat up a security guard, or throw scalding hot soup at someone? I genuinely am asking.
it’s everyone everywhere in every square inch. we are already stretched to capacity and then when people who come are not menshlich it is so so hard.
The article is well written, complimentary and whomever wrote it sounds wonderful ! yet honest and that’s okay ! Let’s admit that truth should be spoken. She is not pointing a finger at anyone so don’t write back or take it personal . Yes, we want and We get thanks from hashem but she is correct in pointing out everything that she wrote from modeh ani /hakaras hatov /…! Btw we say modim three times a day (the Chazzan cannot say it for you! Thankfulness or as written mentchlikeit is something we should take to heart and work on more!… Read more »
I’m hearing the author sound a bit overwhelmed. So I’m wondering – does a person always have to say yes? Does everyone have to do this mitzvah?
Secondly, if there’s really no choice, are there community services that can make it easier? Like pre cooked meals, etc.
I can tell you as someone hosting for 20 years, hosting sleeping guests while working full time and raising a family with presence, is understandably overwhelming. The person is likely not overwhelmed day to day but having more peopel to care for and in your space that you use to recharge can certainly overwhelm. The issue is when you’re the only one in CH on both sides of the family you get asked often, and when you say no, you’re judged as if you dont care or are unkind and that hurts.
I agree with the writer who said you need to cut down on hosting.
You need to make boundaries for how much you can and can’t do.
I personally get pressure to host a lot and I chose a couple meals and the rest I said no. It also depends what you do all year. Some ppl have taxing jobs.
I said no for the first time this year and felt incredibly guilty and ashamed for days.
I could have said yes but the attitude when i was asked to host turned me
off. It was as if a yes was expected and mandatory. So I said no.
If you can’t handle it, you did the right thing
There is no reason to feel guilty at all!
Enough with this crappy Jewish guilt!
How about treating the neighborhood with respect, no shouting in the streets all night long.
During Chol Ha’moed, there were people singing so loud. They woke up both me and my wife AT 2 AM IN THE MORNING!!
The Seminaries in Eretz Yisroel shipping their girls out all the time.
It’s also very costly for the hosts. Not everyone can handle it.
I personally had guests that were very demanding. Wanted a lot of food, at all times, served to them. I’ve hadn’t had guests since.
And communicate these boundaries very clearly to them
Kick them out, let them find somewhere else. They are only this entitled because they get away with it.
There are people who ask for a minimal ‘fee’ to help with the huge costs of hosting
I have a hosting and cooking theory:
If you dont want to and or cant, dont!
But dont do, and complain.
Its turns the whole thing into a whiny tantrum and that’s a very unpleasant undercurrent for everyone.
If you dont want to, dont.
Only do these things happily. It’s not a favor otherwise. Even if you just want a thank you. Thank you is not why you have guests. Again, dont do it if you dont want to.
Complaining is self righteous bad middos.
This is what my guests would say when they asked if they could spend yomtov with us, on erev yomtov.
She’s not doing it FOR the thank you. She’s educating those that are clueless that hosting is hard and it would b mentchlich to thank for the hard work that they likely don’t seem to see ir know about.
its not just tishrei
soon we have campuses coming to CH, then Cteen, then JLI, then Kinus…..its literally non stop….
Then move to Lakewood or Monsey
No one is forcing anyone to host if they are not up to it. Balance is very important. BH BH BH that all these groups are coming! It’s a sign that there’s healthy growth and activity. Similar to every day a person needs to arrange food for themselves, it’s a sign that there’s who to prepare food for. Groups coming show that there’s Yidden who want to connect and Simchos taking place. This is the Schuna of the Nossi HaDor, if it wasn’t busy something would not be right. If someone needs a quieter place there are beautiful Chabad neighborhoods… Read more »
What snobby attitude people who live and in crown hights do chesed glore
Stop with your entitled attitude
I don’t have to or want to
Behave like a man and not a escaped animal from the Israeli jungle
Write this article in hebrew
Fax
Hashem must shower u all with brochois
עד בלי די for all u do for the orchim year round!
I think people miss understood the article
So let’s spell it out for you
We don’t want to be abused by people who call themselves the rebbe orchim but behave like animals that escaped the Israeli jungle
This year I had a slightly different experience. At each meal there were several Israeli bochurim who voluntarily cleared off, helped me serve. Although I didn’t have alot of sides and salads most were happy enough with the food.
I do notice who are the ones that help and I ask them their names, so I can acknowledge and show them appreciation.
Nothing objectionable at all in this article. Excellent points. If you aren’t doing this already it’s because it hasn’t occurred to you yet. All good, “Ehov es a haBikores” applies even to Chasidim.
I’ll keep this mind and thank you for sharing.
As a bubby who has hosted for years, whether you are a girl or a bochur, the most important thing to me is to clear the table. There are 3-4 courses. Each time the table needs clearing. At the very least clear at the end, and don’t just take your 1 little plate. Each meal is hours of shopping, cooking, serving, standing for hours, not to mention the obvious costs. Enjoy yourself but don’t eat and run without helping in some way. An inspirational vort, clearing, offer something. Be a mentch. That includes consideration, cleanliness and respect. As for sleeping… Read more »
Just a note, and from experience, many hosts will tell you not to clear and don’t expect that at all! I’m not saying that a person shouldn’t be mentchlich C”V, but for me this comment seems to be coming from left field. How can a Bocher/guest know which detail you are makpid on? Maybe its to say thank you, maybe its to clean one plate, maybe to clean up every course, shmooz, say a dvar torah??? Just because someone doesn’t volunteer with clearing a course (not when asked) I don’t think thats an intense sign of disrespect. Many hosts don’t… Read more »
Yes getting up to help clear is a basic part of being a guest. Not far-fetched. Don’t forget were talking about guests that asked to come. Do ur part- help clear, and say thank you, and help in any other way. Yes these are all basic.
Ask
Ask if they can use help and in what way and when
I loved this article, every point so important and true. What I think is missing is that there is such a high value in the community of hosting and such a high expectation from those who live out of town that understandably us in CH get crushed under that weight. If we said no 52 weeks of the year we’d have so many people talking behind our back that we’re unkind or uncaring family members. It’s a lose lose if you say yes or if you say no. I think we have to stop judging those who prioritize their spouse… Read more »
B”H The way my parents raise me, is NOT to ask anybody for anything IF I CAN HELP IT… G-d forbid only as a last result. G-d forbid, if there is absolutely nothing else that I could do and or my family members can do to help me to salve it or do it myself. Perhaps it may not be the Jewish way of doing things. I do realize this, as I write this comment and post it. But this is my way of doing things and B”H, kh, I really doubt and hope I do not change at this… Read more »
For all those saying “we pay our own food and have taxing jobs..”
“Rent is so expensive tuition is so expensive”
How about tryout moving to Timbuktu for a few months as a Shliach at let us know how it goes
Shliach did you forget that you come yearly to fundraiser in crown hights
Your attitude is the reason for the article. You seem to be implying that she owes you. We are all shluchim and we all have our mesiras nefesh. Maybe try thinking about that when you bring a group of people here for inspiration.
But you can chose to move on shlichus, you can also chose to NOT move on shlichus. The decisions someone makes have consequences, and one of those consequences is that your now gonna have to fundraise, host, and you don’t complain because this is what you signed up for, so I say again, if you don’t want to move on shlichus, stop kvetching. You are either there with mesiras nefesh, or you lose the right to virtue signal.
The last minute sleepover guests who finally decided to tell me they plan on coming and expected to hear a yes.
No. No. No!
I spent chol hamoed preparing for the second days. What about you?
Wow, Very well written, she is 1000 percent correct.
The rebbe said if you are born a Lubavitcher-you have full responsibilities of a Shliach, basically no one asked you
In ways they were not exactly said
Someone was asked to host 30-40 bochurim
They said yes . They prepared beautfully. Best foods . Hired a lot of help. Baught the best foods . The best cuts of meats , and guess what no one showed up. Because they had other plans and decided not to go. All that hard work . Money. Time . And no show . No apology.
Guess what the boys and future boys lost out on the hostess with the mostess to ever say yes again……
As someone who also hosts constantly, this piece really spoke to me. Hosting is a zechus, but it’s also real work, and it’s okay to acknowledge that. Gratitude and communication don’t take away from the mitzvah; they elevate it. I thought this article beautifully balanced both truths.
I’m surprised some people are reading this as a complaint or boundaries issue. I didn’t get that at all. I saw it as an honest and respectful reminder about awareness and mentchlichkeit. You can see hosting as a privilege and still acknowledge that constant giving deserves basic respect. Two things can be true at once. This really needed to be said.
Such a needed conversation! Hosting isn’t about thanks, but acknowledgment keeps it human.
This made me stop and think. I’ve sent my boys a few times and always assumed it was no big deal if someone had an extra bed. Reading this, I see the toll it really takes and how absolutely selfless it is when someone agress to host. I’ll definitely be more mindful next time.
I felt a bit defensive reading cuz I’m guilty of most written here 🙁 But I appreciate how this was written not agnry just honest . It was a good wake up call for me.
Why weren’t the things she wrote about obvious to you?
Can we please normalize talking about the human side of chesed without it being labeled “complaining”? This article said it perfectly. Someone finally said what everyone’s been whispering for years.
Tishrei done and now getting ready for Kinus CTeen JLI Yud Shvat Etc Etc What’s interesting is that many in CH now rent out so for them it’s great – keep em coming! For those who don’t charge – it’s become a part time job in itself. PS. It’s a great mitzvah and honor to host this often ( it has become almost every weekend + people coming for weddings and somehow) but you need much money and energy. It’s at the least a part time job! PS 2. Regarding seminaries in Israel who do this to Israeli families –… Read more »
If you are able to host with an open heart, do it with joy and warmth. But if you are limited or exhausted, take a break and spend time with your family — it is not a mitzvah to be overwhelmed or to neglect your own children in the process. Instead of feeling pressured, consider donating to someone who can host. That too is a beautiful mitzvah — often greater than doing something beyond your capacity. No one needs gifts from guests; a heartfelt “thank you” is the best gift. Hosting guests is a blessing — not a burden. When… Read more »
No need to teach anyone how to behave, it’s ok to to say NO and spend time or maybe visit your extended family in a different state and see their hospitality and thank you for all that you have done for them?
Maybe out of town families can host CH families for other times like summer or Passover? Just a thought to make it even
ive been hosting for 25 years plus. Ive finally learned that its ok to say no as a full sentence without feeling guilty . Ill host on my terms , not when im asked to host 3 boys and 7 show up . Its an endless no stop hosting machine in CH , every second weekend all year long. And to be very honest my absoulte worst is when a shliach says i host all year long too bla bla bla… well thats your actual job- i work 2 full time jobs and this hosting is just a side thing… Read more »
I love shluchim, but even more so the Shliach raises money for his meal homes etc
So you’re saying a Shliach isn’t entitled to stay in your house. Fine.
But saying that it’s their only job and your work 2 and this is a third that you pay out of pocket?
Lots of Shluchim are paying out of pocket. Are struggling and fundraising a whole year. So no. Just no.
Dear shliach you can begin looking for a place to stay for kinuss weekend now
And not wait until last minute
The issue seems to be what obligation does a host have to provide a space? And what is the obligation of a guest as far as what to cover in expenses. Obviously you have your ideal amount of hosting, and then what actually happens. So if you would want to host 20 days out of the month and you only book up 12 of them, do I need to help you cover the 8 unbooked nights. Clearly, you the host have to pay rent regardless of nights booked. When I stay I am going to contribute to utility usage. I… Read more »
where did this come from? nobody is obligated in any of this, the article just addressed mentchlichkeit and hakaras hatoiv when someone goes out of their way for you
I think the broader community of Lubavitcher needs to have an open discussion about these things. There are even good solutions. Surely many residents would love to do the mitzvah of hachnasas orchim, but for issues like lack of space they do not. Couldn’t there be a way to set up a community hachnasas orchim fund so they can be a part of the mitzvah and also then we can lower prices to stay. Both guests and hosts are often expecting too much right now. This is adversely impacting the good hosts and good guests.
Those saying “know ur boundaries and say no”- it’s really not always possible. Many ppl are the only ones in their family here and yes they want to accomodate- they’re just asking the other side to be menchlich about it and recognize what it takes.
To the guests- it’s important u realize that inevitably guests do take up a lot more space and work than what
Many guests assume they’re just joining your meals and sleeping on your ‘free’ space without realizing how much more was done for them. They don’t realize the hostess didn’t go on the family chol hamoed trips since she stayed home to cook for them. They don’t realize the hosts are sleeping without pillows. They don’t realize the hostess didn’t get to go to shul since she was busy setting up for her guests. They just assume whatever they see is the norm and would happen whether they came or not. This isn’t called complaining its called asking for basic decency… Read more »
So so well said. I’ve been there. I’ve experienced this too many times, I no longer host.
thank you for opening this important conversation…I am in absolute awe of the CH community and their incredible hachnosas orchim. We love and admire you all. May Hashem bentch you all with continued hatzlachah and nachas and may we all join together in Yerushalayim with the Rebbe MIYAD MAMOSH!
As a single in my 20’s living in CH, I was lucky to join so many meals at countless peoples homes. I CERTAINLY did not know what is involved in hosting!! These incredible women spent their yt and shabbos days setting up, warming up, serving, cleaning up, just in time to do it again. Only now, as BH a mother of 6, working full time do I say how on earth did I just show up to peoples houses?! The amount of time and energy that went into each of those meals, the prep, the cleanup, the shopping and menu… Read more »
Thank you for the validation!! I think you should write the next article on behalf of all of us unseen women who just get criticized for not doing this mitzvah as perfectly as people think we should 🙁
As a side note, I have been the grateful recipient BH of meal trains when I’ve given birth, and when I try to reciprocate, it usually means my children get cereal for dinner or one time I totally forgot about another dinner for my own family and I think they had crackers and PB. I have come to the point where I know that at this time in my life, I can’t sign up for a meal train, but I will either send an Uber eats gift card, donate to Shifra and Puah for them or give their kids a… Read more »
“Boundaries are the distance at which I can love you and me simultaneously,” – Prentis Hemphill
Setting healthy boundaries allows for both self-love and love for others. Boundaries are not walls that create distance, but rather are the space needed to maintain your own well-being while still being able to give love to others without resentment.
True empathy and compassion require boundaries. Empathy without boundaries can be a direct path to resentment. This is human nature and many of my fellow letter writers seem tp understand this.
Youre totally missing what’s going on here, this isn’t a boundaries issue. You either don’t live in ch, or you have the means, the space, and/ or xtra help to host easily, or have other family around that your guests can fall back on giving you the luxury to say no when u don’t feel like it. Those struggling with money, space, ability, general daily life and who are the only family people rely on cannot just say no easily. What would crown heights look like if we all said no when we didn’t feel like. It’s completely normal to… Read more »
My mother would start cooking /baking/freezing a month or two ahead of time. It helped make a difference !
Have to say, the bochrim from Australia are always so mentchlich. They offer to help set up, clean up, and serve without even being asked, and bring flowers or a cake and a thank-you note. They make sure to say hello and thank you, give the kids real attention, learn and play with them, sing by the table, and share divrei Torah (which is what we love most about hosting bochrim). They bring such varemkeit and mentchlichkeit to the home. Even when they’re out, they’ll check if we need anything from the store. It’s just so thoughtful and refreshing to… Read more »
True
The people I host are amazing the lubavitchers and and all yidden . I sent my boys I didn’t put them in people’s houses
I could have written every word here!
Yes it’s a pain to host, I’m so grateful to be able to host my siblings children, and other guests.
The basics mentioned here do make it so much more enjoyable and less stressful, avoid the resentment that otherwise tends to creep in.
Yasher koach.
On my end, I guess it’s a call to share my hakaros hatov to all the people in my life who give- from teachers, to my children’s mashpiim mashpios – just the thank you- we see you and alleviate your time effort and care- goes a long way.
I have read all comments etc…this way and that. But here is my point: We are really all shluchim. Those living in CH and hosting are also doing shlichus by assisting shluchim. At the same time shluchim must realize that Crown Heights people have other jobs and arr not full time operators. The idea of shluchim coming in and acting arrogant… like we are shluchim and we expect royal treatment is wrong. The lack of sensitivity and thankfullness on part of shluchim is wrong. If you are truly a shliach and show much sensitivity to those in your town and… Read more »