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The Final Resolution

Op-Ed by Rabbi Shmully Hecht: “My wife and I collected our thoughts, petitioned our inner strength and started looking elsewhere. Others in similar predicaments would have been simply spooked. Most families are without any resources, and panic they do. Where do they turn?” Full Story

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Op Ed
July 18, 2021 11:57 am

Thank you Shmuly Hecht for this time appropriate, very necessary article. Generations are damaged by the approach of these institutions. Leah Balkany

institutions
Reply to  Op Ed
July 18, 2021 9:46 pm

they’re private. it’s not their approach that’s the problem. they aren’t community built. they’re not run by democratically elected officials. they need not answer to anyone. they’re not responsible to provide an answer for every child. Every parent has that responsibility. Not any institution.

Wrong
Reply to  institutions
July 18, 2021 11:27 pm

We are a chasidic sect, we aren’t Lakewood.

zuchmir
Reply to  institutions
July 25, 2021 6:20 pm

some of these institutions were started with publicly funded money. Volunteers that put in weeks and months of hard work for the mivtoim and the kiruv of children, now cannot have their children/grandchildren go to these places that they built up. this is precisely the problem, they want to sometimes be percieved as private institutions, yet at the same time they toot their horns that they are “the rebbes moisad” – pick your choice, which one is it? in other chassidishe communities, there is a body that oversees chinuch, and they ensure that every child has a place to go… Read more »

Grateful we left
July 18, 2021 12:05 pm

The best article I have ever read on Collive. Something is terribly wrong. Who cares which corrupt politicians is running or which big shot lubavitcher is looking for more power. This situation must be solved or more kids will fry out, run for their lives or worse.

Been there done that! Feel your pain!
Reply to  Grateful we left
July 18, 2021 8:47 pm

Yes, 100%! I wrote the same thing as you, but in more detail

Shmuly, another terrific article
July 18, 2021 12:28 pm

Thank you for using your excellent skill and creativity to write about such a crucial topic. You don’t let us down.

Sad
July 18, 2021 12:39 pm

Now imagine being rejected for a whole YEAR with no where to go…

Says it as it is
July 18, 2021 12:57 pm

Thank you Shmuly
BRAVO

Boruch
July 18, 2021 1:08 pm

Come on, we want the rest

Thanks
July 18, 2021 3:15 pm

Thanks for sharing this story, quite entertaining while discussing an actual real problem.

Father of eight boys
July 18, 2021 3:28 pm

It’s not always who you are it’s who you know helps a lot with applications.
Regardless I always applied to at least three good Yeshiva‘s for each of my boys and quite often the Yeshiva was the one that was let down when I decided not to take their offer. And yes most cases I had to give a deposit with my applications but my boys were worth it.
Can’t change the world but you can play a tough ballgame with your own curveball.

Bubby Understands!
July 18, 2021 3:51 pm

I have seen my children sitting by the computer at 7 AM on registration day for camp.
Parents of chassidishe boys who were academically at the top of their class had to call mesivta or yeshiva every other day for months to get them to accept their sons.
And we are not even talking about the tuitions! How out of towners are paying 40k, 50, 60k a year for their children’s tuition/dorm!
How can it be the flagship schools of Chabad Lubavitch do not have enough dormitory space for the thousands of shluchim’s children?

Imho
July 18, 2021 3:55 pm

I don’t think this is necessarily a lubavitch problem. BH the community, and all communities have grown, and even though things worked for 50, 60 years BH there is more growth than the space prepared to handle it. There is a reason the government does a census every 10 years , perhaps we need something like that to be able to support our communities.

Great idea. A Lubavitch census
Reply to  Imho
July 21, 2021 8:33 pm

Who’s gonna design it?

Thank you for writing this
July 18, 2021 4:21 pm

It seems to be a situation that is getting more challenging with time. Fifteen years ago when we started out it was not nearly so difficult. You didn’t need to be waiting at the exact moment registration opened to camp to get your kids in. I also wonder how this effects kids when they need to worry about getting into schools at 14 years old.

Bravo!
July 18, 2021 4:34 pm

Not an easy task for sure, but Chabad has done harder, with less. Leaders, please make positive change!

What else is new?
July 18, 2021 5:04 pm

Some camps open registration on chanukah and are full by zos chanukah. Same for some yeshvos or zal. What else is new?

Is this something new?

In the old days, try getting a place at a shabbos farbrengen – within hearing distance. All the spots were full.

Yes, “full” happened in Lubavitch all the time. Welcome to reality. And try getting pessach or summer marks shlichus…yep, full.

So what else is new? Guess we need to welcome you to reality.

farbregen.
Reply to  What else is new?
July 18, 2021 9:52 pm

Ha. I like your example. Yes. Try taking someone else’s “mokom kavua” at a shabbos farbrengen. Most people did not exhibit “shlichus” at those farbrengens (or any rebbe-centered regularly scheduled event which included invisibly reserved “places”). But this all aside, even without reserved places, if you came early you couldprobably get a “good” spot somewhere. And certainly if you got there “on time’ you’d be left at the back, out of eye and ear shot. That’s why 770 had to expand. So either camps expand, or more camps open or there become an alternative to camp…

Full
Reply to  What else is new?
July 19, 2021 8:42 am

True!

“Full” was always part of our life. When did “full” become unacceptable?! Community offered programs of assistance were grabbed by early birds or people with “connections”, and for many of us that applied on time, it was “full”. Section 8, energy programs, work-study etc.

The whole concept of “if you are full, make more room” seems to be a one time comment that never applied to any communal program, school. day care, camp. seminar, shlichus, kollel, housing…

Camp
July 18, 2021 5:33 pm

Wow what an article.Nowadays camps are money making who really cares how many hearts are broken for not being accepted.Bh my kids are past that stage but I remember comes January 1,you got to register to camp and then waiting and waiting to see if they were accepted.I definitely think if I camp is in Montreal or another city it should cater to their own first.

A man of his word
July 18, 2021 6:30 pm

Yes with out a doubt shmuelly is an amazing writer and is able to convey with his words his deep passion and belief in what he feels is right. However I believe his most outstanding quality is that he is a man of his word meaning if he believes in something he will do whatever it takes to get the job done. He is without a doubt one of the driving forces for change in helping parents secure places for their children whether in a school a mesivta a seminary a camp. Keep on inspiring us to never take no… Read more »

Where to get the list of all mesivtas ?
July 18, 2021 6:58 pm

Where to get the full info of all the mesivta schools and their
Educational levels? Why everything is so hidden?
It’s time to open high school for boys and teach them locally, like BethRivkah for girls.
No connections here and I’m starting to worry after reading all these articles.
Ps. I know some are struggling with even preschool registration or the pre1A, been there too myself.

List.
Reply to  Where to get the list of all mesivtas ?
July 18, 2021 9:55 pm

a list is probably available at “central” Chinuchoffice.org, or private mymef.org but educational levels. Oy. what’s that?

Great article
July 18, 2021 8:14 pm

I don’t if I was allowed to laugh so hard on tisha beav I laughed so hard that I ended crying . Crazy upside broken system .

Engaging
July 18, 2021 8:44 pm

Thank you Shmully for writing and COL for posting. It’s an entertaining read on a volatile subject. I think it important to not overlook the fact that camps aren’t “chabad” aren’t the “system” and it’s easy to convolute things in our societal culture. Children don’t “need’ to be in camp, but it’s certainly a welcome relief from the yeshiva atmosphere and Brooklyn – if that’s where the camper is coming from. Overnight camp is a luxury. if you argue it’s a necessity, then there’s a larger problem that an overnight camp is a necessity and the way “we” structure our… Read more »

Excellent comment
Reply to  Engaging
July 18, 2021 11:17 pm

Agreed with everything you said in this comment.

Been there done that! Feel your pain!
July 18, 2021 8:45 pm

Bs”d Very well written and presented! I bet I can guess in all likelihood which camp this was! They are notorious for doing this to kids and the hanhola is very proud of themselves and their hard-to-get-into camp. They do this to people over and over again for many years. I heard of one parent (whose child was the only one not accepted from his whole class of boys), saying to the camp director (who finally called them after months of causing the family an agonizing wait and then rejecting their child just like in Shmully’s story), “if you were… Read more »

Growth demands leadership
July 18, 2021 10:09 pm

Wow that was a wildely entertaining read ; putting a kind face on a much darker reality. The ugly truth is There are kids getting left Behind. Why? Simply put there is indeed no room. We are expecting to fit growth of community numbers into the infrastructure built for Lubavitch circa 1995. Think of it; how many new camps and Yeshivas have opened. Versus how many kids there are? think the matter is pretty clear: We have witnessed BH steady and consistent growth over the years and now the infrastructure is overwhelmed ( and has been for years) Perhaps there… Read more »

Community Responsibility Works Both Ways
July 18, 2021 10:54 pm

The situation is indeed very unfortunate and troubling, where many of our youth do not have options available (or suitable options) for Yeshivos or camps. At the same time, if we are speaking the language of “community responsibility” then let’s be honest: If supporting and building Chinuch mosdos (including summer) for Lubavitch was a true community concern, that would mean the community itself would take upon itself the burden of supporting said mosdos. Yes, there are some large mosdos, including some camps, Yeshivos or seminaries, that are lucrative businesses. But not all. I know of many – and am personally… Read more »

Where is the school
July 19, 2021 12:03 am

If the school cant get all of its students from the same class into one camp, they shouldn’t allow their students to go.

I didn't grow up chabad
July 19, 2021 1:09 am

And i went to day camp… couldn’t imagine going away full time as a kid. Maybe we need chabad day camps as they’re much cheaper and you get to see your family every day

Be a good parent first
July 19, 2021 6:47 am

Your responsibility is to your child. If you find yourself in a broken system, seek out a system that works. Period. A system where your child can thrive. A system where your child will be healthy, happy, and educated.

There are plenty of parents like me that walked away from the broken system you speak of. I thank HKBH often for giving me the fortitude to do right by children.

Details pls
Reply to  Be a good parent first
July 19, 2021 12:50 pm

What do you mean by that? Can you share some examples of how you “did right by your children”?

Individual camps DO become "full"
July 19, 2021 2:17 pm

While I enjoyed the article and I sympathize with anyone who did not make it into the camp of their first choice (my own children have experienced this as well), it is not clear to me what solution Rabbi Shmully Hecht is proposing, if any. Perhaps he will expound on this in the second installment of this series, time will tell. In this installment however, he goes no further than simply railing against the prevailing reality, which is that individual camps do indeed become full, when they reach the maximum limit of enrollment. I’m sure that deep down Rabbi Hecht… Read more »

Offensive title
July 19, 2021 2:28 pm

While I sympathize with the predicament described in the article, the title is bizarre because the article offers no resolution to the predicament described. Indeed, the reader is left to conclude that the title’s allusion to a “final resolution” refers to the actual rejection of his son from camp, and is (probably?) intended to call to mind the “final solution” of the Nazis, yimach shmom. Whether intended or not, this comparison is as ludicrous as it is offensive. The writers (and editors) should have known better.

Interesting
Reply to  Offensive title
July 20, 2021 7:39 am

Agree with the comment on the title.

Happening all over
July 20, 2021 2:12 pm

Finally someone speaking up! I have a friend who is a Shliach in California and his kids were rejected from the Shluchim online school. He is being forced to either enroll the kids in the local mixed Chabad school, a public school or home school them. As the author of this article said, the system has collapsed.

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