So Is the Rebbe the Moshiach?
COLlive has obtained a clip where the Rebbe's secretary Rabbi Binyomin Klein responds to the question "so is the Rebbe the Moshiach?" at a Farbrengen in the sukkah of businessman Menachem Gurevitch in Crown Heights. Photos, Video
COLlive has obtained a clip where the Rebbe's secretary Rabbi Binyomin Klein responds to the question "so is the Rebbe the Moshiach?" at a Farbrengen in the sukkah of businessman Menachem Gurevitch in Crown Heights. Photos, Video
After being zocheh to decades of the Rebbe’s leadership and open miracles, it is hard to imagine that there are those that feel the need to deny or even question that the Rebbe is Moshiach. After learning even some of the Rebbe’s and previous Rebbeim’s Sichos and Ma’amorim – one is not able to deny the obvious. However, this is also included in the amazing vision of our Rebbeim……see Hayom Yom- Yud-Bais Teves.” Even the great minds who are here must lay aside their intellects and not be ruled by their reason and knowledge…the essential thing in these times of… Read more »
” new shlichus ” check up the words especially after shoftim sicha ” tell everybody about the navi we have in this gen.and beis nissan… and the whole 51- 52 sichas a new era began we the rebbe let us and wants us to
yechi hamelech !!
Are you being serious?
In what language does “Mekabel Pnei Moshiach Tzidkeinu” mean “to tell everybody the Rebbe is Moshiach”?!
What in the world kind of crazy ideas and practices are you convincing yourself are absolutely true, directly contrary to numerous letters and stories of the Rebbe specifically asking people NOT to do so?
I have an idea: why don’t you go back to the store from which you bought your brain and ask for a full refund, because it doesn’t work.
SF
what was that guy saying at 3:40 about rabbi pinto what’s the story?
it’s a given that the rebbe is moshiach shebedoreinu
the question is what did the rebbe mean that we have
a new shlichus to be makabel pnei moshiach tzidkenu
(to greet moshiach) possibility
1)totell everybody the rebbe is moshiac and say yechi hamelech
or 2)the rebbbe was just saying how close we are to mosiach
my unhumble opinion (once i think this is what the rebbe wants i wont be humble ill say it straight out)
yechi adoneinu moreinu vrabeinu melech hamoshiac lolaam voed!!!!!!!!!
You seem to be a bit confused. The only reason anyone ever claimed that the Rebbe is Moshiach is (not because it’s necessary to identify Moshiach), but because he fit the bill. If we conclude that the Rebbe is not currently Moshiach, then we revert to simply not knowing who Moshiach is, like most Jews throughout history.
If you think that this is all about the need to identify Moshiach, you’re on the wrong planet.
SF
Of course you know I was only talking figuratively, but once you mention it, there have been physical assaults where people have ended up in the hospital. Do you know how many steps away from actual death r”l that is? Just one unintentional step.
SF
whos that addorable kid in the main picture?
i am a person of simple faith i would never swap shoes with ANY of you, i know the Rebbe IS Moshiach it is so sad that anyone could think any different there was a 3 tamuz so what does that mean now? one thing it could mean to me that is everyone has to stand on his own 2 feet and demonstrate where s/he is at AYEKA! Are we all mosying all along or are we being proactive in doing what the Rebbe MHM wants? everyone has their tafkid – you only need to look inside yourself to know… Read more »
one message:
HAMAASE HU HA’IKKER!
(-literally the action is the main thing)
i never heard of martyrs to this matter
care to enlighten me?
ל45 תמצא לי עוד צדיק ששלך יותר מ4000 שלוחים בכל העולם לדאוג לכל יהודי ובגללו כל שבוע ביום שישי ובכל חג…..אלפי יהודים בכל העולם מניחים תפילין מקבלים מצות מנענים לולב………… מגיע מזרע דוד המלך הוגה בתורה כדוד אביו………… ומכין את הדור לגאולה! לך ותתחיל ללמוד עניני גאולה ומשיח התמונה תשתנה לך יחי אדוננו מחורנו ורבינו מלך המשיח לעולם ועד to 45 find me another tzadik who sent more then four thousand emissarys in the whole world to take care of every jew. and because of him every week on friday and on every festival… thousands of jews in the whole… Read more »
I don’t see how you can just dismiss the biggest debate Lubavitch has ever had. There are those who believe that we must believe the Rebbe is Moshiach in order to bring Moshiach. Others believe that such a stance may hinder Moshiach’s coming ch’v.
I think the conversation is very important. When your child asks you what we are supposed to believe, are you just going to say “it doesn’t matter!”, even though he sees people killing one another over the issue?
Engage, question, answer, seek the truth.
SF
All that is clear is that you are as arrogant as you are ignorant. Your deflective statement is so useless, so presumptuous, yet used so widely, it’s downright repulsive. Get this straight: just because you understand something a certain way, it doesn’t mean that it is that way. You may have learned the sichos of which you speak, but I absolutely guarantee you do not understand them. You don’t possess the intellectual integrity nor the strength of will nor the open-mindedness to engage in constructive debate, so you deflect and hide behind a curtain of supposed holiness and goodness, while… Read more »
It is clear that you have not learned the sichos of nun alef, nun beis. All it takes is to act sit down and learn (in the rebbe’s words “derech yeshara” the str8 path to understent the concept of moshiach – learning about it.
it does NOT matter who mashiach is! it doesn’t matter if he’s eliyahu hanavi, the rebbe, or someone else… what matters is that he will be here.
go and BRING moshiach!
enough talk… words are air!
wy? It makes a lot of logic. and if you will listen to him and learn inyonei moshiach ugeula you will also be ”brainwashed” like him!
a brainwashed tzfati that uses no logic at all
תמצא לי עוד צדיק ששלך יותר מ4000 שלוחים בכל העולם לדאוג לכל יהודי
ובגללו כל שבוע ביום שישי ובכל חג…..אלפי יהודים בכל העולם מניחים תפילין מקבלים מצות מנענים לולב………… מגיע מזרע דוד המלך הוגה בתורה כדוד אביו………… ומכין את הדור לגאולה! לך ותתחיל ללמוד עניני גאולה ומשיח התמונה תשתנה לך
יחי אדוננו מחורנו ורבינו מלך המשיח לעולם ועד
“Moshiach Shebidor” literally means the person in any given generation who is fit to become Melech HaMoshiach. This manifests in two ways: 1. If Moshiach comes in that generation, the Moshiach Shebidor is assumed to become Melech HaMoshiach. 2. When Moshiach comes, every Moshiach Shebidor of every generation will lead his generation towards Melech HaMoshiach. Additionally, he will remain their leader throughout the duration of the era of Moshiach. Essentially, the Moshiach Shebidor will act as a connector between Melech HaMoshiach and his generation, much like separate Nesi’im were the connector between Moshe and their particular tribe. This is the… Read more »
according to this logic 2 plus 2 equals green(in other words your buildup has nothing to do with your maskana)
the rebbe says clearly in a simchas torah farbrengen (muge) the the nossi hador is moshiacah shebador and that it is to be taken literllary. also, many times in the sichas of 5751-2 the rebbe’s being of moshiach is hinted to strongly. Yet how does this fit in with the halachic status of moshiach according to the Rambam who says that if the “possible moshiach” died, he is not moshiach even though he may have been a great person. One cannot answer, that tzadikim are always alive, for the rambam brings an example of a tzaddik who was presumed to… Read more »
You see, you have no idea what the word “Moshiach” means. I would suggest taking language before math.
SF
I would argue precisely the opposite: We already see the affects of believing that the Rebbe is still actively our leader. Namely, everyone does whatever the heck they want.
If this is what we look like based on this belief, what will the next generation look like?! Especially since they are one more generation away from the holiness…
SF
While that is a beautiful story (and thank you for sharing it), it obviously cannot fulfill the Halachic requirements necessary to identifying Moshiach.
I can find you hundreds, if not thousands of stories like yours that happened at the Kvarim of many other Tzaddikim, yet I don’t hear anybody announcing that those tzaddikim are necessarily Moshiach because of these stories.
If this story is your basis of believing that the Rebbe is Moshiach, then you have a very weak argument indeed.
SF
Regretfully, your deflections will not help you figure out the right thing.
1.the rebbe said that this is the last generation of gulus and the first generation of geulah.
2. the rebbe said that the nassi hador is moshiach sebdor.
3. the rebbe is the nossi hador.
add it up= yechi hamelech hamoshiach!
have a good day!
give some credit to menachem gurevitch who hosted the farbrengen and always hosts hundreds of guest in his house, may gd bless him with much hatzlocha and nachas
thank you!!!
very well written!!
i was getting worried what is becoming of lubavitch and i am comforted reading ur response!!
you dont have to be a mishechist to believe that the Rebbe is moshiach, its a give-in, its obvious!!! (or at least it should be)
ONe last thought: if you dont stand strong with complete certainty that our Rebbe is Moshiach of our generation, then what do you expect of your children??
think about it….
Re: The Rebbe is currenhtly not accomplishing anything that would make the title Moshiach appropriate to him. As anyone who studies the Rambam knows, one of the jobs of Moshiach is to return Jews to Yiddishkeit. Several months ago, a friend’s daughter met a young women with tattoos who was working at Starbucks. When the friend’s daughter learned that she was Jewish and had gone to the local conservative day school, she naturally invited her over. It took a while, but the girl finally visited and eventually became comfortable with the family. One time, she request to visit the Ohel.… Read more »
those 15 minutes that u took to write all that you cold have done 10 more mitzvos
a shod
You don’t know which part the Rebbe was or wasn’t listening to. How about YOU stop deciding and let the Rebbe make his own decisions…
People! See what the Rebbe said whether he’s Moshiach or not. No one else.
Were someone to ask me this question, the following is what I would answer: I would ask you to clearly define what you mean, particularly with the term “Moshiach”, but being that you asked the question this way, I’ll assume you know nothing of the subject, and will therefore address all the possible definitions. Esoteric definitions: Q: Is the Rebbe the leader of his generation (however you’ll define “generation”), who will eventually lead his generation towards Moshiach (the person), and lead them throughout the era of Moshiach? A: Yes. Q: Is the Rebbe a direct continuation of Moshe who is… Read more »
question was supid
Hay yossi zilberman looking good!
haftacha hayachid moshiach ben david………. harabi chai v’kayam cmon evryone sing along harabi chai v’kayam i don’t hear you!!!!!!
Uh, very clever.
Enough already.
Moshiach is whoever Hashem decides ,is the rebbe the best candidate that we know of yes
To 17 the rebbe was listening to the yechi adonanu moreinu vrabanu part (of you didn’t notice the rebbe had a stroke) and would never go back on the many times that he denied this hergush of Chassidim. Stop deciding who the rebbe is and let the rebbe make his own decisions. To 25 you obviously NEVER studied the RAMBAMS hilcous milochim
your not the first????
1. He mumbled something like: every generation has a moshiach and in our generation the rebbe merited to be that one.
2. The fact the he was the rebbe’s secretary does make his opinion important (like reb yoel, for example, who basis on the rebbe’s teaching and not day to day life)
3. moshiach or not: the rebbe clearly wrote in a tzetil that the identity of moshiach is not the thing to focus on and that chassidim should try to bring him instead
i dont think he is like i dont go around saying rebbe is moshiach but every one should belive that their rebbe is moshicach but it is posible that he could be one day very soon.!!!!!!
Once we’re on the topic, it’s obvious from studying Rambam and the Rebbe’s sichos, and speaking to Rabbi Groner and other people who have witnessed miracles that the Rebbe is surely moshiach.
yechi adonenu morenu verabenu melech hamoshiach!
what was the answer?
the rebbe WAS moshiach
the audio is not clear, please write a transcript or something.
whats the desition
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Difficult to hear and understand with the background noise and lack of fluency in hebrew. Please teitch.
Can you please put up a transcript-it is hard to hear andalso a translation in English. Thank you.
pk so i culd tell from the beginig of this clip that tons of ppl will coment on this topic so i , without watching this video yet, want ppl to c my opinon: we all agree the rebbe was / is a tzaddik. a tzadik only listens and agrees with the truth.IN 770, THE REBBE LISTENED TO HIS CHASSIDIM SINGING YECHI – THE SONG THAT NOW SOME DISPISE – IF THE REBBE DIDNT AGREE WITH THIS HE WOULD OF SAID SO ! so plz ppl listen to the logic of it….. moshiach now ! yechi adoneinu moreinu vrabenu melach… Read more »
transcript/translation please
Can someone transelate what he said i couldnt hear a thing
A mazkir con’t be a Chosid…
can someone please translate?
what is he saying
We don’t even understand his answer to the question so transcrip the discussion.
And whatever was his reply, and what? Lo-Meshichisten won’t change because of him and Meshichisten won’t stop believing what they believe.
im the first so far! lol
that popcorn looks yummy
is this some relative to reb menashe “hakoton” klein?
i believe so. others, whom may be called “anti-meshichists” have yet to learn that. but do you really think this lecture about “so is the rebbe moshiach” will turn around ppls minds in the matter? whats the right thing to be done (i wont go preaching my yechis, because i dont want to start up anything, but i truly believe that the right thing that should be done) is to get ready for moshiach, not to decide who it is. learn a sicha, help a friend, say a chapter of tehillim for someoen in need (just btw, talking abou that,… Read more »
Rabbi Klein didn’t answer the question.
But doesn’t answer the question
is ivrit no t yiddish.
or eighty percent of the soldiers in the Israeli Army.
Or any other hard working soldier in Tzivos Hashem,.
Why ask the guys on the gravy train?