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  |  June 18, 2019

    Shluchim Flee Fire On Shabbos

    Calabasas, CA Shluchim Eli and Shaini Friedman and their family fled their home on Shabbos when they saw 30 foot high flames barreling towards them. Full Story, Photos, Video

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    wow!
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    wow!

    that is SCARY!!!!

    Bitochon
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    Bitochon

    In G-d We Trust – trust with 100% bitochon that nothing that isn’t supposed to happen, will ever happen.

    Faith is what we teach others and to do so, we must have plenty of it ourselves.

    Especially remember chazal tell us that “don’t think you keep shabbos because in truth, shabbos keeps you” – shabbos watches and guards us.

    big Z Schapiro
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    big Z Schapiro

    I agree it is scary but the main thing is everyone is okay BH and that is the most important thing and this is a beautiful miracle go Chabad of Calabasas

    Rabbi Marlow
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    Rabbi Marlow

    Rabbi Marlow said it is not permissible to think about Hilchos Shabbos in the event of a fire,

    I wish Chabad had a Halakha class,

    BH they are safe
    Guest
    BH they are safe

    BH everyones safe and the Torahs are safe
    how scary, i wouldn’t know what to do with the Torahs, I’m sure it was the correct thing

    BH
    Guest
    BH

    BH everyone was safe.

    What is  the halacha?
    Guest
    What is the halacha?

    How far could he drive? On shabbos with a sefer torah…humm interesting

    trust
    Guest
    trust

    although it is very scary we must always remember gam zu letovah

    to #4
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    to #4

    first if all, don’t quote rabbis because usually they are thinking about your case or a specific case in which it is not permissible. secondly, think about yourself in that situation where you would rush rather than think and then if you still feel the urge, post a negative comment. otherwise, don’t criticize someone who it actually happened to and just think that b”h him and his family were saved. anyways, just like the gorilla story, a human life was more important than anything else.

    To #7
    Guest
    To #7

    Did you read comment #4?

    Miracle
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    Miracle

    One of the nicest families I have ever met! Thank G-d they are safe. Apparently someone on high was protecting the Chabad House.

    to #7
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    to #7

    This is a total guess on my part, but my guess is that once you are driving you can keep going until you get to where you need to go. I did learn that if for example you have to drive to the hospital on Shabbos, ok, you drive there, but once you get there you’re not allowed to turn off the car because that would be extinguishing a fire, or even close the door because that turns off the inside lights, ditto.

    My halachik opinion
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    My halachik opinion

    Someone which thinks that Shabbos is more important than saving your family’s (not to mention your own life) lives is halachikally not allowed to have children. Or maybe not halachikally but morally shouldn’t reproduce. חלל עליו שבת כדי לקיים שבתות הרבה

    my goodness
    Guest
    my goodness

    thank Gd all is well with you and your family and the Torahs. Common sense, people, when in danger, run. get in the car and go! This is coomon sense and as a woman who is a mother and a wife and follows the rules we would do same thing,, you did the right thing, you saved your family and the Torahs. tg.

    BH THEY ARE SAFE!!!
    Guest
    BH THEY ARE SAFE!!!

    Pikuach nefesh doche es kol hatorah kula- life danger allows one to desecrate the entire Torah this was clear life danger so to all frummies who are so careful about halacha it is allowed to do whatever needed to save lives including driving until reaching safe grounds etc.
    Thank you Hashem for saving their lives how about helping them out after the fire?

    To #4 #7 and #12 Halacha
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    To #4 #7 and #12 Halacha

    It would be worth asking a rav, rather than ruling halachos based on speculation and hearsay.
    There is an entire siman in Shulchon Aruch devoted to saving articles from a fire.
    As rabbi Friedman correctly stated, these are complex. An added complexity is the point that he mentions about taking the Torahs in the car.
    These are real questions and ARE addressed and discussed in Shulchon Aruch.
    It would be worthwhile for everyone to be proficient in hilchos shabos.

    BH THEY ARE SAFE!!!
    Guest
    BH THEY ARE SAFE!!!

    Pikuach nefesh doche es kol hatorah kula- life danger allows one to desecrate the entire Torah this was clear life danger so to all frummies who are so careful about halacha it is allowed to do whatever needed to save lives including driving until reaching safe grounds etc.
    Thank you Hashem for saving their lives how about helping them out after the fire?

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