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Rabbis Selectively Allow Music During Sefira To Ease Pandemic

Crown Heights Rabbi Yosef Braun and Tzfas Rabbi Mordechai Bistritzky are both permitting listening to music during Sefiras Haomer to a select group of people and circumstances to help cope with the COVID-19 pandemic. Full Story

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New Admirer
3 months ago

As a resident of Crown Heights I need to tell you that during this last few weeks is the first time I heard Rabbi Braun speak. It was in the form of WhatsApp voice notes.

Not that he needs my Haskoma, I feel the need to tell you that he made a tremendous impression on me (and my business partner). Intelligent, calm and pleasant.

This is coming from a person who has never spoken to Rabbi Braun, yet I feel that he is incredibly suited for his position.

I wish him much Hatzlacha in all that he does.

Not enough
Not enough
3 months ago

Can we not put limits to amount and type and who can listen to music. Any parent including men who are working from home and need to concentrate might need to listen music. There shouldn’t be a measuring stick! We shouldn’t have to wait for a person to feel anxiety or call their therapist to get permission to listen to music. The stress will come if it hasn’t already. This shouldn’t be B’dieved. It should be L’chatchila for any parent with kids at home and whatever music allows you to keep sane. Personally, I didn’t stop listening to music. I… Read more »

No only parents
No only parents
Reply to  Not enough
3 months ago

Many singles and married people without kids also find music helpful.

needs vs wants
needs vs wants
Reply to  Not enough
3 months ago

If someone is well off, not anxious, etc then why would such a person also get a heter for listening to music during sefira?

Yossel
Yossel
Reply to  needs vs wants
3 months ago

There is a finely nuanced line regarding the type of music one may listen to. That may very well be muttar every year as well according to the letter if the law-the poskim feel one may rely on that this year, perhaps for a “single, unmarried”.

landsman
landsman
Reply to  Not enough
3 months ago

You can’t really make a Bdieved thing, Lhatchila. This is a psak halacha, not a matter of opinion.

Toshev hashchuna
Toshev hashchuna
3 months ago

Yasher koach Rabbi Broin

joey
joey
3 months ago

well, the Karlin chasidus rabbi have ruled the same

Rabbi Bistritzky
Rabbi Bistritzky
3 months ago

Your wisdom, mentshlechkeit and kindness come through in your actions. Yasher koach

So many instructions that parents
So many instructions that parents
3 months ago

should be sensitive to their children, make the home a happy place, simcha should reign, using this time to solidify the family structure, enjoy the family time…v’chulu…v’chulu… BUT no one actually addresses the reality that the mother is a teacher, and teaching her students remotely while she is home with three school kids, one special needs child, a toddler, and 8 month old baby: breakfast, lunch and supper have to be made, messes cleaned up, kids supervised on their tablets, nursing and changing baby,….all this miraculously has to get done while she’s teaching (and no!, she’s not just pretending to… Read more »

A Mom
A Mom
Reply to  So many instructions that parents
3 months ago

True, many mothers/fathers are overburdened. Those are the moms (or kids)that need the music!
Don’t set your expectations high, you know what you can handle. You have to work hard just to stay sane! There are many like you, for sure
When possible, partner with a neighbor or friend to get meals or shopping done. Relax your standards, unless the mess stresses you.

There is a light at the end of this tunnel. Hold on just a little bit longer…

What is the source
What is the source
3 months ago

Of course I agree that if there were an issur on music during sefira then it would have to be balanced with the need at this time for calm minds and stress relief. But what is the source for this issur in the first place? “Everyone knows” that one may not listen to music during sefira, but how do they know it? I am skeptical that this issur exists, even in good times; how much more so at this time. If, ch”v, the current situation persists till the three weeks, well, we will have much bigger problems than this, but… Read more »

true point
true point
Reply to  What is the source
3 months ago

It does not say in Shulchan aruch that it is assur to listen to music during sefirah. If someone knows of a source please post it.

landsman
landsman
Reply to  true point
3 months ago

Go to asktherav.com and, your question will be answered.

There's a good reason for that
There's a good reason for that
Reply to  true point
3 months ago

Indeed it doesn’t say in Shulchan Aruch anything about music during Sefirah – but that’s because it does say (Orach Chaim 560:3) that you’re not supposed to listen to music _anytime_ during the year, because of zecher l’churban! The heteirim are where it’s for a mitzvah.

Yes, music can be helpful at this time...but also.
Yes, music can be helpful at this time...but also.
3 months ago

[from the article]: “We need to however assess ourselves properly whether we’re just looking for an
excuse to listen to music or there is a legitimate concern. If one is unsure, they may be lenient”…
Will this not present some fine lines? – meaning – who knows how many people will have that
self insight “to assess properly”? Will not the result inevitably be – that people unnecessarily are taking the easy way out?
The Rav acknowledges that it may end up being a somewhat risky “amendment”. The question is – to which degree will this “heter” end up affecting the general zrizus to uphold
this inyan, (concerning refraining from listening to music in sephira) in
the future. Let’s hope that the result won’t be more than was bargained for.
 

True Story
True Story
3 months ago

I remember from 20 years ago a friend got a psak from Rav Osdoba to listen to Uncle Moishy in the car with the kids during sefira. The friend asked “But what if I enjoy Uncle Moishy too?” Rav Osdoba answered in a funny, pointed way. “Would you listen to Uncle Moishy if you were by yourself in the car!??!?” LOL Rav Osdoba has a sharp sense of humor sometimes, I’ve experienced it myself.

Its hard
Its hard
3 months ago

Its very hard. And that’s why there are lots of workshops that have been made available for mothers on this topic.

How to cope during this difficult time.

Maybe get a hold of some of them and listen to them.

Hatzlacha!

Article misses the point
Article misses the point
3 months ago

It’s not that rules are thrown by the wayside etc! These ARE the rules! This is EXACTLY the Chinuch they should get. Rav Schachter ruled similarly three weeks ago.

Thank you!
Thank you!
3 months ago

This is what true leadership looks like: adherence to Halacha combined with sensitivity and awareness. Yasher Koach!

What about the a cappella singing group recordings
What about the a cappella singing group recordings
3 months ago

There are so many, and they are excellent!

They are not enough, I guess? (Or am I wrong in thinking it’s OK to listen to them during sfira?)

They are ok
They are ok

I also don’t quite understand the need when there is so much Acapella…maybe for parents who don’t want to avoid certain family videos simply because of the music?

Chaya Mushka Kievman
Chaya Mushka Kievman
3 months ago

I agree that music should be allowed for people who really need it, but for those who could do without, should .

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