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    Our Junk Food Epidemic

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    i got it
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    i got it

    as rewards for my kids im gonna give them celery!
    and at their birthday parties as well!

    I agree!!
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    I agree!!

    I agree 100%! Everywhere I turn my kids seem to be getting more junk food! At parties, in school, in shul and the list goes on.

    100% right!
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    100% right!
    An experienced teacher and mother
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    An experienced teacher and mother

    Giving a little sweet treat will not kill. When you restrict the kids find their own way to get the junk.Ive had students steal out of each others backpacks since they had no nosh at home.Also,these days it’s harder to motivate then it used to be.Even years ago,it was acceptable to give a “tzukerul” a sugar cube.the rabeim would give out to make the boys love learning Torah.making it sweet and enjoyable. You are right,that it doesn’t have to be overdone but alittle choc.chip or one jelly bean or 1 winki piece for example won’t hurt.what I do insist is… Read more »

    hmmmmm
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    hmmmmm

    I dont mind the sweets, i mind the HUGE amount that now a days is considered normal while most adults would feel sick from that amount if eaten.

    Agreed!
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    Agreed!

    I remember in 3rd grade our teacher made sure our snacks had less then one gram of sugar, and if it did, we couldn’t eat it. Because if we have too much sugar it would take away from learning torah.
    It was an invaluable lesson, one that i remember till today!

    gan Menachem Day Camp
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    gan Menachem Day Camp

    they wrote on the schedule friday that there would be a shabbos party. They served potato kugel, watermelon and a simple cake and sang shabbos songs. After the shabbos party kids kept asking, “When’s the Shabbos Party”?
    Additionally, I am a preschool teacher and this year made sure that in my class the kids bring a small toy rather than a goodie bag. The kids loved getting a stamp or other small toys and never once asked for a goodie bag.

    Overdose
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    Overdose

    I agree. In my daughter’s school it is not just one treat that the shabbos Mommy/Tatti have to bring, but two. In a closed bag. I also feel that party bags are not necessary if you are having a party at school – why the need to also send the kids home with a bag of nosh? In my son’s yeshivah they sent home a note in the middle of the year saying they would only be allowing healthy snacks. To the best of my knowledge this has not been enforced. While I am far from a health nut, I… Read more »

    BCM
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    BCM

    in my daughter’s class in BCM, the Tatty brings grapejuice, the Mommy, a nash (mezonos) and the Shabbos guest brings a healthy choice and we suggest fruits, nuts, raisins…. so many mother’s accepted this police happily.
    snacks are only fruits or vegetables. my daughter knows, that if she brings a lolly or bissli to school, her Morah will hold it until dismissal- she will not be allowed to eat it in school.
    thank you Morahs for collaborating with us to instill healthy habits!!

    BR parent
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    BR parent

    My daughter’s shabbos note asked for grape juice and hadama snack or the like. This was both years of preschool. The teachers all want healthy snacks. Some parents choose to send in the junk food regardless. The same with birthday parties. A drink and pretzels with prizes is enough. It depends on the parents, so talk to your friends to send in healthy food…

    I didnt have nosh
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    I didnt have nosh

    My mother was super healthy way before it was in to be and we never had nosh growing up. Well, whenever we had money or an opportunity to buy nosh, we did. We traded half our belongings with other kids for their super snacks. Sometimes we ate the apples we were sent to school with but most of the time we threw it out. None of us had or has healthy eating habits as adults and we had to be retrained to find the right balance. Nowadays, it is easier because it IS in and more and more families are… Read more »

    very good point
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    very good point

    I agree totally. I don’t think food should be used as a motivational tool, it’s simply the wrong message. If parents want to send nosh, that’s their choice, but it’s not for the school to give kids pizza for prizes and nosh. An Oriental Trading junk toy is just as good (and probably cheaper ).

    How old
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    How old

    I agree with this idea in a preschool but as the kids get older, a sticker, a stamp etc wont do it for them.
    Morah is not taking nosh away when they are 10 years old.
    If the whole school and community revamped, it might work.

    totally agree
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    totally agree

    at time is is appropriate to have nosh, but not every time there is a reward given. nosh should be something that is a treat, once in a while. not something that kids associate with good behavior or tznius dress.

    To #11
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    To #11

    I agree! Keep your kids away from nosh and they’ll find it anyway. I allow my kids to have candy here and there and they aren’t obsessed with it!

    Healthier nosh doesn't mean kids are deprived
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    Healthier nosh doesn't mean kids are deprived

    I’m not sure why people are commenting that healthy snacks will make them crave junkfood. There are healthier lollies out there that my 3.5 year old happily eats as a treat (Yummy Earth brand). Same with healthy cookies. We just made out own (healthy!) chocolate which he loved. If you don’t deprive your kids and and model good behavior yourself, chances are they won’t go running for the junk when your back is turned since they know there’s a balance. I grew up this way and while I may have the occasional ‘junk’ food, I make smarter choices daily since… Read more »

    CH mom
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    CH mom

    thanks for voicing my concern and the concern ofso many other parents so eloquently.

    True
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    True

    Crown Heights, it’s time to move on! Schools all over are becoming more health conscious even for birthday parties the child may bring in a healthy snack if they wish. The standards are set and the kids are fine with it.

    My Overweight 3 Year Old
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    My Overweight 3 Year Old

    I am the mother of an overweight 3 year old. My husband and I are thin. We eat a very balanced diet in our home and very rarely offer sweets. So why is my daughter considered obese? The doctor has pointed out that some bodies just cannot handle even small amounts of sugar and non healthy foods. So yes, even chocolate chips and jelly beans are a problem for my daughter. How hard do we have to beg to be heard? Combine the sweets with the lack of open play spaces in Crown Heights and we have a serious problem.… Read more »

    totally agree
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    totally agree

    with everything written here!
    it is disgusting that the y feed our children poison without our consent!

    ye...
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    ye...

    And then you send them off to camp and they have access to all the junk food and soda they could dream of in the canteen with no limitations.

    agreed 100%
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    agreed 100%

    Not to compare to Public School LaHavdil but I never saw such a thing in all my life growing up secular and sending my kids to public school(BH we are Lubavitch BT’s for 19 yrs) this kind of junk food prize business is way out of f control , my grandsons came home with prizes of cans of diet coke for behaving in school and on the bus, what happened to just behaving because you are supposed to. I teach Preschool in a Chabad House in Long Island and this would never fly with my children’s parents there. A Shabbos… Read more »

    to #11
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    to #11

    u dont have to deprive your kids…no one is saying not to give any nosh at all….just not all the time and there are more than plenty of healthier alternatives to candy and baked goods…. me and my 3 yr old bake all the time together but we use only ww flour…coconut sugar ( an unrefined sweetener) and oil vs margarine… also when it comes to special treat…i only buy with out food coloring and artificial flavors and corn syrup your kids dont have to be deprived and can still get special shabbos and birthday treats…or snacks for school but… Read more »

    Thank you for Expressing what so many of us feel
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    Thank you for Expressing what so many of us feel

    If you explain to your kids how eating sugar and food coloring ect.. is bad for the body .. and model good eating habits and constantly talk to them about foods that are healthy.. and explain how each food helps our body work… it wont be a dictatorship where as soon as u turn ur back there stuffing their faces with jelly beans…. you can offer treats that are not as junky occasionally… and then once in a blue moon when youre at a lchayim or somewhere where temptation is very hard to control .. you let them have some… Read more »

    agree
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    agree

    I agree 100 percent

    to #23
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    to #23

    Where can i buy coconut sugar? Does it need a hecsher? Thank you for the info!

    So now what?
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    So now what?

    Ok, we hear agreement almost across the board from parents. Where are the administrators chiming in saying ” I hear you, I will make effective policy changes in my school.”

    Leadership.
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    Leadership.

    There needs to be intelligent leadership from a base of accurate information about nutrition and healthy choices. I think that so much energy is focused on keeping things at a status qou so that the academics get done, some educators are forgetting that the quality of food affects the learning as well. As a child I was given sugary foods with artificial ingredients. I am one of those people whose body chemistry is susceptible to becoming addicted to that refined white sugar. I also connected the reward to some kind of positive statement about myself, as a child. All of… Read more »

    its not fair
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    its not fair

    its not fair that you give sugar to my child, and then im the one who has to deal with her when she crashes, gets super kvetchy and wont go down easy at night. sweets are ok once a week for shabbos party, at my home we save all our treats for shabbos. it shows how special shabbos is, and then my children dont feel deprived. when my child comes home from school with so much treats, it makes me feel that the teacher is a bit insensitive.

    i took upon myselff
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    i took upon myselff

    As a teacher who has made many health changes in my personal life, this year i made many changes in my class. Shabbos party consisted of a fruit and vegetable and one mezonos orhadama snack and no food coloring allowedfor birthdays and class food crafts. My students did not feel deprived and were overjoyed to snack on baby carrots and cherry tomatoes. Whe made rainbow out of fruits instead of sour sticks ect…i am proud that i had a healthy class this year

    Healthy pre school teacher
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    Healthy pre school teacher

    I am appalled by the junk that is given to the kids in ur schools I give grape juice and fruit for Shabbat party nd have tight the kids that shabas is. Time to look forward to spending time together nd not bout the type of junk they get for breakfast or in shul!! Bray parties re a simple beautiful yummy cupcake and goody bags are nt accepted in my classroom. Instead the money goes to buying a toy or book for the class,!! Do cooking/baking with my kids in school every week without fail and have been able to… Read more »

    communicate
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    communicate

    I agree with your points and I’m assuming you communicated your concerns with the teacher during the school year.

    Suggestion-
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    Suggestion-

    Perhaps approaching the teachers/administrators with concrete information would support your requests for a healthier environment. Sometimes, I think, those allowing junk food to become part of the environment do not necessarily take the time to qualify each aspect of the school; however, if enough people approach this in an educated and concerned manner, perhaps changes would occur. Assumedly, the teachers and administrators are open and professional enough to want what would only become an even more effective and healthier school.

    Yuck!
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    Yuck!

    I would never send my child to a school where there is no concern for the health of my child. Furthermore, if those teaching/leading the school are so uninformed that they have no clue they are not protecting the health of the child, I would not send my child there either. My last point would be….If the powers that be in a given school are open to hearing your concerns and open to learning and changing, then to me that is all that is needed. I would then send my child to that school, although I would want to check… Read more »

    when your in the counselors shoes...
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    when your in the counselors shoes...

    Try getting a bunk to have a good time and behave at the same time without instant motivation…kinda hard. okay, so you’re Ms. Fun- fun- your campers adore you, and listen to everything you say without making any problems – Good for you! Its not that easy for everyone else. Yes, i agree that nosh should not be given in bount, however, if your a new or typical counselor in high school it’s hard not to. Try it out if you never did it and if you did do it – then please say how you motivated the kids? Remember… Read more »

    To #35
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    To #35

    Camp is a different story. It’s not school. Although I would expect a little leeway in camp, still I don’t think lots of junk is good for anyone. Maybe a few times a week is fine, but using junk food to bribe kids to behave is not o.k. The counselors who are inexperienced need guidance from experienced staff. Training is necessary. To be a camp counselor is not being a teacher per say, but one needs training and background knowledge in that area. If you haven’t been given that prerequisite exposure, I think the leaders in the camp are remiss.… Read more »

    They learn what they see-
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    They learn what they see-

    Kids learn what the adults in their lives teach them, then they make their own decisions when they grow up. We all know this, yet somehow some of us forget this when it comes to food. Why? Furthermore, it is part of our religious heritage to take care of our bodies, but some of us forget this, too, when it comes to food. Why? Could it be that some of us are too influenced by the culture of gluttony? Money-making? Are some of us ignorant of healthy options? Are some of us not interested in physical health until we get… Read more »

    Standards
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    Standards

    If a school has high standards, it has high standards. For me this means that there must be high standards in all aspects of the school’s components, for this is what makes a statement of quality all around. It is an atmosphere of quality that I look for in a school for my child. Therefore, what the school values in issues of food is an important part of the whole picture. To me, it would be like sending my child to a school where everything is what I like, except no one cares enough to value the importance of neat… Read more »

    To #1
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    To #1

    Aren’t you being extreme in your solution? Are you being sarcastic because you do not think this issue can have a good resolution if people stop to think about sensible alternatives? I KNOW that no child should be brought up with the example that sugary foods in abundance are no big deal. No one says that at a party sweets should be banned and celery should be the treat. But celery can be delicious, too. There are countries that never have the opportunity to come CLOSE to our abundant supply of junk food. Those children are EXCITED to get fresh… Read more »

    just wondering
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    just wondering

    who knows what makes the colors of those candies? who knows what hydrogenated oil can do to our arteries? who knows why some of us think it’s o.k. to put that stuff into our bodies? in days of old, these colors and oils were not unnaturally manufactured. then, with the manufacturing “progress” changes and culture shifts, quality was traded for quantity, shelf life, economic pressures and competition. ergo, junk food increasingly became the norm. if you notice, we are trying to get back to quality now. red dye, blue dye, chemicals to prolong shelf life, cheaper ways to produce products… Read more »

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