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Judge Upholds New York Vaccination Law

Just days before school starts, a judge has upheld New York's new law eliminating the religious exemption to vaccinations for schoolchildren. Full Story

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Frumeh Yid
August 27, 2019 1:05 pm

Good. There is no religious exemption allowing someone to not get vaccinated.

Absolutely riddiculous
August 27, 2019 1:25 pm

Regardless of vaccination status every child deserves an education. How many thousands of children, Jewish and not Jewish alike, are now without a school? HaShem Yishmor.

then get vaccinated
Reply to  Absolutely riddiculous
August 27, 2019 2:34 pm

or get a real medical exemption. Problem solved

That's fine, then...
Reply to  Absolutely riddiculous
August 27, 2019 2:38 pm

…they now have a week in which to get vaccinated, and then they’ll have a school. Presto!

1 in a thousand
Reply to  Absolutely riddiculous
August 27, 2019 6:26 pm

At least one of each of those thousand will still be alive and not dead from measles as is statistically proven. Save one life and you save the world.

1 in a thousand? Think again.
Reply to  1 in a thousand
August 27, 2019 9:38 pm

4000+ just had measles, no deaths (the 2 reported were deaths from other causes, not measles although they both had measles proir to the instance causing their deaths)

DTRNBSN
Reply to  Absolutely riddiculous
August 28, 2019 4:49 pm

Then get them vaccinated!

DTRNBSN
Reply to  Absolutely riddiculous
August 28, 2019 4:52 pm

They can be home schooled. In the meantime, get them vaccinated.

I bet those parents are vaccinated!!
August 27, 2019 1:30 pm

Good for the state. The needs of the many out way the self interest of the few!

Hodu La'shem
August 27, 2019 1:56 pm

Sanity prevailed.

Great news!
August 27, 2019 2:33 pm

Thank you for keeping us safer

Do you go anywhere?
August 27, 2019 3:50 pm

Walking in a store, going to the library, beach, airplane or really anywhere runs the risk of running into someone who is unvaccinated or partially vaccinated. Many parents of vaccinated up to date kids, and possibly the ones commenting here too are victims of not being fully up to date according to the current CDC schedule. FACT.
Quit pointing fingers. The ‘safe’ % of unvaccinated in schools before this craziness happened was fine, never above the % schools needed to follow. Everyone is scared because a big deal has been made out of it.

The numbers are against you...
Reply to  Do you go anywhere?
August 27, 2019 6:21 pm

I agree with you that people are making a bigger deal out of it than what it really is, however, being scared to take a vaccine is also only because there are people making a big deal out of it. The fact is that there is a much higher chance of you getting killed in a car, then getting damaged by a vaccine, yet no anti-vaxxer refrains from using a car! What’s with this double standard? The only answer is, is that this is something people make a big deal about.

Do what you can
Reply to  Do you go anywhere?
August 27, 2019 6:30 pm

Of course you can’t control every encounter but this is a simple step that makes a big difference. you can’t compare 30 children in a class + many more at recess for a full day to passing by someone at the supermarket.

The ElAl flight attendant passed away
Reply to  Do you go anywhere?
August 27, 2019 9:48 pm

She got sick on the board and got measles … she was 39 and mother for 3 kids …. pls do vaccines to your children don’t spread measles

Suggestions?
August 27, 2019 6:48 pm

Medically fragile children like my child who we told by several Physicans that he should not be vaccinated again but won’t put that into writing in terms of a medical exemption and encouraged us to use the RE . Do any of you who think this law is a great idea have any suggestions for us as to how to proceed? What if this was YOUR child? And YOU were reading these comments? How would YOU feel?

Simple suggestion
Reply to  Suggestions?
August 27, 2019 9:20 pm

Go back to your doctor and tell him that it’s not an option anymore. I must be a genius!

In same boat
Reply to  Suggestions?
August 27, 2019 9:42 pm

My child doesnt qualify for ME accd to NY State because its basically impossible to qualify. But, child is not a candidate for vaccines regardless of my beliefs. Too many medical things going on and any amount of vaccines can cause system to go haywire.. but hey, let everyone with healthy kids be happy there is no solution for us.

Find a doctor who will do it
Reply to  Suggestions?
August 27, 2019 9:46 pm

If you have medical issues your doctor will write it down, go to any allergy pediatrician and do shots through them or get an exemption from them. My child was allergic to eggs and we did it through allergy office. I believe your pcp knows the right pass. Nothing to do with religion

Egg allergic?
Reply to  Find a doctor who will do it
August 28, 2019 10:49 am

The issue here isn’t just allergies and allergy shots def won’t help this situation Let’s say it even was an issue of just an egg allergy like yours, I would never cause my child to have an anaphylactic reaction to food on purpose so even more so not with an injection with other toxins and live material which are harmful for him. Do you give a peanut allergic kid peanut butter when he’s tantruming for Bamba and hold epi pen in other hand just in case? Some allergic reactios cause more internalbdamage than you think . Some ppl go into… Read more »

Not just eggs
Reply to  Find a doctor who will do it
August 28, 2019 9:57 pm

Unfortunately there are other ingredients in the vaccine that the child can be allergic to that are not a common food item like an egg and the parent will not know until the child is actually injected! When that happens, it can potencially go quite badly . There isn’t any allergy testing prior to vaccination to identify this risk factor nor will a medical exemption be granted if an independent panel is done prior.

Hodu La'shem
Reply to  Suggestions?
August 27, 2019 10:02 pm

What do you have to say to the parents who abused the religious exemption and got you into this situation?
And why didn’t you tell the doctor you are uncomfortable claiming a religious exemption because you are a Jew and Jewish Law requires vaccination unless there is a medical reason not to vaccinate.

Re hodu lahashem
Reply to  Hodu La'shem
August 28, 2019 10:55 am

The religious exemption has nothing to do with ME guidelines. It was always super rediculous

Really?
Reply to  Hodu La'shem
August 28, 2019 9:46 pm

So halacha requires a parent to inject their baby with anything that offered to them no questions asked? If the child’s Peditrican offers the STD vaccine Hep B per CDC schedule, and the parent declines are they are breaking halacha? With the passage of the new law they not be able to enroll their baby in childcare without it as it is a NYS mandated vaccine.

Real exemption
Reply to  Suggestions?
August 27, 2019 11:27 pm

Our child has a real medical exemption. If you go on the CDC website, you can read all of the real medical diagnoses for which vaccination is contraindicated. If your child does not have one of the medical problems listed, then he or she can be vaccinated. If your doctor will not put it in writing then it is bubbe misa for them to tell you not to vaccinate and that is exactly why they won’t put it in writing. Switch doctors.

Response to real exemption.
Reply to  Real exemption
August 28, 2019 10:54 am

Tell me please, if this is the case, whyis it that different states have different requirements for medical exemptions yet you think whatever CDC says is GD. The vaccines are the same in all the states. So today I live in NY and can’t get my kid an ME Although Dr who is pro vaccines doesn’t think he should get them but can’t write that Bec he can lose his license.but hey, tomorrow if I move to Pennsylvania all of a sudden something changed because the guidelines there allow my kid to be medically exempt? This is how warped the… Read more »

"real" medical exemptions?
Reply to  Real exemption
August 28, 2019 9:32 pm

Many Physicans who sincerly want to help their patients are frustrated by the narrow CDC guidelines and believe there are many other vaild circumstances for a medical exemption that should be included so they can better serve these children!

Religious Exemptions
August 27, 2019 10:28 pm

My religion does not allow me to make use of body parts from a living fetuses. My religion does not allow me to inject unethical, Unkosher ingredients into a HEALTHY baby’s body. What religion do you practice?

In case of emergency will you go to ER?
Reply to  Religious Exemptions
August 28, 2019 1:02 am

Or stay home and see how your child suffering? I think you first will call Hatzolah to save your precious baby and will let doctors to do all whatever they need to save the baby.
Don’t live in Lala land…

Re in Case of emergency
Reply to  In case of emergency will you go to ER?
August 28, 2019 10:56 am

See the diff. One is preventative and the other is life saving..can’t compare
Do you also ridicule all those who are against blood transfusions?

If you're ignorant on a subject, don't talk about
Reply to  Religious Exemptions
August 29, 2019 10:33 am

Most anti vaxxers that use this argument at least know that it’s a bluff. They’re just trying to get a religious exemption. You unfortunately seem to actually hold of it. Even if it has not kosher ingredients, it’s not derech achilah so it’s fine. I also don’t get this unethical business, even if that’s your feeling, you can’t call that your religion. If this is your only reason for not vaccinating, then you should have no problem vaccinating your kids. Just call up your rov, he’ll tell you that it’s not a problem at all! For some reason though, I… Read more »

religion
Reply to  Religious Exemptions
August 29, 2019 2:32 pm

I don’t know what religion you practice but Judaism does allow vaccinations. Ask the chabad rabbonim who don’t allow unvaxxed kids in chabad yeshivos and the Chidon

Don't agree
August 28, 2019 2:53 am

1. It disregards the federal law of the land that codified the inevitable nature of vaccine- inflicted injuries and deaths—which are more common and occur in far greater numbers than anyone knows;
2. Disrupts the doctor-patient relationship;
3. Forces doctors to violate the Hippocratic Oath;
4. Robs parents of informed consent; and
5. Adds to the vaccine-inflicted injury and death toll.

I was vaccinated and got the measels!
August 28, 2019 8:05 pm

The health department said i was a medical mystery. Then hounded me as if i was hanging around the places where people got the measels…

It’s a matter of numbers
Reply to  I was vaccinated and got the measels!
August 29, 2019 12:12 am

Very simple. One dose is 93% effective. 2 doses are 97% effective. Nothing in life is 100% effective. It’s about numbers. But if 95% of people get vaccinated then the 3% of people who don’t develop immunity will be ok because outbreaks won’t occur. If not, then obviously they can. This isn’t a mystery.

Refuah lifnei haMachlah
September 1, 2019 7:57 am

Vaccines do NOT follow the Torah proscription for a refuah/cure. Hashem created the cure before the illness, therefore the illness itself (such as vaccines which contain the same illness they intend to prevent) is never a cure, for it is the illness and therefore doesn’t precede the illness. The treatment for measles etc is not a small amount of measles in a vaccine, for the cure, measles virus, does not precede the illness, the same measles virus, but rather the treatment/cure was created by Hashem before the measles organism was created. On the contrary, from a Jewish perspective vaccine logic… Read more »

What?!?!?!?!?
Reply to  Refuah lifnei haMachlah
September 6, 2019 8:42 am

What in heaven Do you mean ??
What do you suggest perople do then as a precautionary measure against these diseases

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