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שמוליק
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שמוליק

כן ירבו וכן יפרוץ.
זה היה הכוונה של הרבי. בטוח אני שהב״ב תהי׳ יותר קל עם אנ״ש ש״י יותר מזה היה בעבר זמנים קשים וכמה פעמים חמור מאוד אבל סוף סוף יד היהודים על העליונה

'Who had a history of tension culminating in the Crown Heights riots'?
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'Who had a history of tension culminating in the Crown Heights riots'?

What kind of parallel are you making here between the Jewish community who want to live peaceful and respectable day to day lives and the perpetrators of ‘tension’ and ‘riots’ who are responsible for the constant and continuous one sided assaults, harrassment and on occasion, murder, of these Jews by the above mentioned blacks? Such a misleading and slanderous yellow journalism should not be given the light of day on local community web site.

Hungarian Chutzpenyakes
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Hungarian Chutzpenyakes

We need to tell these Ungarishe honks to go do it in their neighborhoods in Williamsburg and Boro Park, and leave us alone. They would be hung if they tried anything there. They r also doing it on Empire Blvd bet Schen & Troy Aves – in the center of our hood ואין פוצה פה ומצפצף – so what’s our Community Council worth if they can’t protect our housing???!!!! Shame!!!

Where Can We Go Demonstrate
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Where Can We Go Demonstrate

Please let the community know what they can do to help. It is about time we protest these luxury developments. Not to mention Jewish money hungry scumbags from Williamsburg who are destroying OUR neighborhood for their personal benefit!

such ahavas yisroel # and #5
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such ahavas yisroel # and #5

that’s what the rebbe wanted! speak loshon hara!

not.

go learn chofetz chaim before you go and break halacha

Resident
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Resident

Who will teach our kids in five years from now?? How is the Jewish landlords bringing yuppies on Montgomery and Troy and proclaiming,”I love yuppies my best tennants” wall of shame for these people that are destroying our future and vision . Where will our young couples live ????!!!!

We need to make a stink !!
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We need to make a stink !!

Our families break there head for housing in east Flatbush and Lenox and yehupitz and the yuppies are moving in crown and kingston !!! Great job, the rebbe is applauding these people . Hashem have rachmanus !

Here is what you can do !!
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Here is what you can do !!

Say no!!! Take a minute and call board nine ! Write a letter to mussa Moore and explain why this is wrong! Take a minute and call Laurie combo office and Richardson . Make your voice heard !

Capitalism
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Capitalism

Have Jews forgotten about the ghettos and when/where they were only allowed to live on a block or two (in terribly crammed conditions, not allowed to expand)!?
We should be grateful to hashem that we live in a time and place in which anyone – including us – can build what we wish.

Allow capitalism to work
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Allow capitalism to work

Capitalism is the fairest way of living life. It is colorblind and allows equal opportunity. Ultimately let the market decide what property is worth.

For those who wish to understand more, read “Basic Economics” by Thomas Sowell.

Scumbags
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Scumbags

We need to find out their names, hunt them down and bang down their doors and not give them menucha; take their pics, post em all over the place and protest right at their doorsteps where they live. The Rebbe is still looking out for us. They need to know they r bringing K’peida upon themselves from the entire community. The Rebbe is certainly not happy what they r doing.

Where to Demonstrate
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Where to Demonstrate

In front of their their homes together with our black neighbors

THat will not be too comforting for their wives and children

Let them feel it on their own turf

Johnny
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Johnny

BS”D I thought more supply cheaper prices

resident of Crown
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resident of Crown

to # 11- We sit on our porch on crown between kingston and albany and are sad to see hipsters filling the building. My daughter bought a shoe box on east 38 street and the hipster is on kingston. Trust me, moving to east flatbush is NOT an END to all means. So who to blame? the landlord that sold to the person that brings hipsters by the droves or to the new ”management” who refuses to post for our yungeleit. Between the SATMARS who are swarming here like cokaroaches looking for property and UNZERE that do this , there… Read more »

Joe
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Joe

BS”D you organize it # 12

Laws of economics
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Laws of economics

Stopping these luxury homes won’t bring down prices. In fact, it will RAISE prices. The market operates on supply and demand. Crown Heights is in demand, and the less supply, the more real estate will rise.

Let developers build and build until the demand dwindles.

Enough!
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Enough!

Move to East flatbush while it is somewhat afordable

If the market
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If the market

If the market is good let them build. They are building in our neighborhood and taking a risk by building so let them get the rewards.

free market capitalism
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free market capitalism

It is unfortunate that people are being priced out of the neighborhood. But, government controls and socialist policies are not the answer.

Move to NJ
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Move to NJ

Buy a house in NJ
Don’t waiste your time , nobody is going to listen your non realistic claims
You think that the Rebbe doesn’t want this and the landlords think that the Rebbe made them rich and now they can charge more and more
There are much nicer neighborhoods than CH
You are going to feel
Happier once you do it
Have your own garden , do more mivtzoyim

The Reason is...
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The Reason is...

The reason this article considers the Jewish and black communities equally at fault for the riots, and the whole attitude displayed reeks of left wing agenda is because it was taken from the FORWARD. They did not change; just because they write in English instead of Yiddish.

I think all these proposed high rise buildings
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I think all these proposed high rise buildings

are going to make the neighborhood very crowded and as it seems like it’s already doing even more of a tense place to live. That’s not even considering the increased cost of living here. I don’t think high rise buildings work well practically speaking for religious families anyway. How to you manage on Shabbos & Holidays to walk up and down 10 to 15 fleights of stairs. Don’t like this it’s not good from any angle! Stop this disaster now!

Yankel Goldstein - Former  Chaiman CB9 34 years
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Yankel Goldstein - Former Chaiman CB9 34 years

I attended the entire meeting until the end . Where this reporter got his info regarding The Jews and blacks at this meeting uniting to fight developers is fanciful thinking , Our outstanding community Askan Berel Sugar addressed the meeting and spoke at great length about the need to up zone the Jewish area of Crown Heights Bounded by Empire Blvd, Union Street , Nostrand Ave until Schnectady Ave as the current zoning does not permit any addition to homes within this area and forces many residents to figure how to add bedrooms to their existing homes . He was… Read more »

Yossy H
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Yossy H

The problem with all of these so called ‘affordable units’ is that it is very complicated for the average young Frum family to qualify we all either make too little or a bit too much and even if we did qualify they aren’t usually on good blocks. That said any landlord who gets any sort of Government benefits for their projects should absolutely need to give something back to the community. Lastly like others have pointed out plenty of ‘unzer’ are part of the problem and we still honor them at all of our dinners etc.

don't sound like leftists
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don't sound like leftists

I’m not for sounding like Trump but some people need to put away the Karl Marx and Bernie Sanders rhetoric

better to have luxury homes than
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better to have luxury homes than

people who try to assault and rob us. People that buy these homes won’t snatch kipas…

Chaim
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Chaim

What about the corner of Albany Ave and president st one of our chabad nicks build and who is in the building yuppies!!! Chutzpah that is in the heart of crown heights

Behrman abstentioned from the vote
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Behrman abstentioned from the vote

Yaacov Behrman was the only abstention on the board regarding this project. Everyone else voted against

Rabbi Goldstein is confused. Berel Suger’s presentation had nothing to do with this development and is unrelated. Suger said during his presentation that he opposes up-zoning in general but is asking for a special variance to accommodate large families. Goldstein himself opposed development on his corner but was overruled by the city.

More section 8
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More section 8

CH needs more section 8 buildings to be built for jews only there is so much housing being given to blacks..

To the Forward
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To the Forward

Can you please not mix two very separate issues. The issue of the riots was 25 years ago. Today’s hot topics are centered around affordable housing for all. Lets focus on the present and perhaps the writer can do some research and make some innovative suggestions on topic.

We all need to
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We all need to

get with the Rebbe’s program and bring Moshiach. The reason we can’t afford CH anymore is because we need to be living in Yerushalaim

To #31
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To #31

Agreed. While property and rents here aren’t cheap it’s worth everything to live in EY. I don’t have a single regret about leaving that filthy, dangerous neighborhood to breathe the pure air of Eretz HaKodesh. And at least we know our enemies. You guys have the chassidim from Williamsburg -and even youe local greedy landlords – buying up everything and pricing you out of your own neighborhood. To me, they are enemies of CH.

Incorrect information
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Incorrect information

Cornell Realty no longer owns 931 Carroll.

27 - chaim
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27 - chaim

1. You are welcome to rent apartment 2c in 1475 president street. Beautiful apartment with two sinks.
2. What have you done for crown heights? What have you done to make this community a safer place to live in?
3. Please put your money where your mouth is a purchase a building and have the apartments “affordable”.
4. Have a back bone and put your last name.
Yaakov Blachman
Property manager
1475 president
All are welcome to rent apartments in our buildings http://www.leasenofee.com

Community needs to build
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Community needs to build

The community should gather donations and build a building with affordable rents for those who truly need it.

Adding Housing to Crown Heights with,two story garages
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Adding Housing to Crown Heights with,two story garages

Our garages can be converted into two story apartments for rentals!the land is free ,underused unused,poorly used.special funding .lower interest loans can be organized by the city goverment ,concerned anash,because this is opportunity,and solution screaming,win,win.Tracht Gut.
nterest cost is low,Expert architects,and builders should be consulted how to do it well and inexpensively.

What do you expect?
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What do you expect?

When the drive is to make money and that’s the ONLY focus, no wonder things like this will happen. You signed your own death wish

To #10
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To #10

Thank You! I love to hear thomas Sowell mentioned on Col Comments. You made my day.

Sense of entitlement is wrong-headed
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Sense of entitlement is wrong-headed

It’s hard to understand the point of view being expressed in many opinions here. The reason why real estate is so expensive in Crown Heights is because there is so much demand. When people are willing to move out and therefore the demand goes down, then prices will come down too. Landlords are not to blame here. Do you really expect landlords to charge less than they can, which will also mean they will lose money on their investment? The sense of entitlement among some of the commenters is very wrong-headed. People must understand how economics works. Nobody owes you… Read more »

to #39
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to #39

Wow. Cold Hard Cash!!!
As the chovas halevovos says – if Cash is your G-d then you are at the mercy of $$!!

Wake up, smell the coffee! You can make money but respect your communities!!

So how do you prevent  homelessness or diaplacement?
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So how do you prevent homelessness or diaplacement?

To 39 (Sense of entitlement):

So, what should an “incumbent” tenant do if, through no fault of their own, they can no longer afford the rising cost of rent? Just forcefully relocate them from one place to another? Why impose such suffering on them? Maybe make just 10% of the units affordable, like with tzedaka.

America is a large country
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America is a large country

just because some has friends and family in Crown Heights doesn’t mean that’s where they have to live. There are many beautiful Jewish communities all over. In many diffenrent countries as well for that matter. All because Crown Heights is what you’re used to and decided that’s where you want to live is not going to change the Brooklyn real estate market.
Advice: Find a great Jewish community with inexpenssive housing and a good Hewish school, take a few families with you and move there. You’ll actually have somewhere you can park your car.

Recent Upzoning - 2015
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Recent Upzoning - 2015

Mayor DiBlasio recently upzoned much of the city through passage of Zoning for Quality and Affordability and Mandatory Inclusionary Housing. The Jewish, Black, Asian and Latino members overwhelming voted for this..circa 2015. Jacob Goldstein voted Yes on the CB9 board level for ZQA and MIH. Yaacov Behrman voted No on the CB9 board level to the Mayor’s ZQA and MIH upzoning. Jacob Goldstein is the current Assistant Commissioner of Housing and Renewal, and there are a few CB 9 members who are either into commercial real estate who follow whatever he does. The ZQA only provided for studios , one… Read more »

Breaking the attachment to crown Heights
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Breaking the attachment to crown Heights

Maybe it’s really time for the next generation to start of thinking to move out of crown Heights and establish new wonderful communities, America is by large the cheapest 1st world country in terms of housing , just met in Las Vegas a wonderful Chabad kehilah,housing is there extremely affordable, very cheap taxes it has a ripple effect on the whole life expense

Business is Business
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Business is Business

Business is Business. This is Capitalism. You choose where to live and what the costs are.

#2 is right
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#2 is right

exactly that
and the Forward is famous for those kinds of lies.
they lied about sholom mordechai for years and now this. the crown hts riots was “tension” bet us and them? puhleeze! it was them beating up us. a one-way street.

To 43.
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To 43.

Your claim that minority communities voted overwhelmingly in favor is a false. 52 out of the 59 community boards voted to reject Mayor Bill de Blasio’s new Mandatory Inclusionary Housing policy. majority of CB9 voted to reject the plan. Behrman rightfully voted to reject. Goldstien voted to support. The plan allows developers to build high rise apartments buildings without parking under the guise that they will provide affordable housing. Orthodox Jews don’t qualify for these so called affordable apartments. Half the issue in the neighborhood, traffic, increase in rent, came as a result of the plan that Goldstein and the… Read more »

I couldn't decide, still can't
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I couldn't decide, still can't

On the one hand C.H. needs more housing so it should be a no brainier. On the other hand the people who build have no loyalty to the people of C.H. and bringing in more yuppies makes chinuch more difficult. (I feel badly for the people who think it’s just economics, this is the Rebbe neighborhood and well ask people who have attacked and hurt the Rebbe if they would do it again)

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