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Is There an Obligation to Take the Covid Vaccine?

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Flu shot?
March 4, 2021 3:22 pm

Does this apply also to the flu shot?
It can also be deadly.
Also, the covid vaccine is so new, we don’t know yet if it’s really effective.

religious according to who??
Reply to  Flu shot?
March 4, 2021 3:32 pm

If you live in CH, did you not see what happened last year at this time?? It wasn’t the flu!

Neglect
Reply to  religious according to who??
March 4, 2021 3:48 pm

Right. It was gross neglect by the hospital system and not following Dr. Zelenko’s protocol for treatment.

Zelenkos protocol is garbage
Reply to  Neglect
March 4, 2021 4:05 pm

He’s not even promoting it anymore. Hydroxychloroquine has not shown promise in trials.

nope
Reply to  Zelenkos protocol is garbage
March 4, 2021 6:21 pm

not true. he came out with a supplement recently

Who trials? What trials?
Reply to  Zelenkos protocol is garbage
March 4, 2021 8:54 pm

He’s not promoting it anymore is not because he doesnt believe it or because it was debunked. Ask him, he still believes in it and he’ll help you get if needed. As for number two, its crazy how people so blindly believe the media. There was a reason that they couldn’t allow it to be promoted, because if it was, people would not go for the vaccine, because of a better alternative, and furthermore, it can’t recieve the EUA if there is an alternative. So there was a misinformation campaign to get you to believe that it doesn’t work or… Read more »

I disagree
March 4, 2021 3:29 pm

This is completely missing the point. In my opinion. I would like to ask a whole bunch of questions.

Berel
March 4, 2021 3:34 pm

I’m not anti vax, generally. But this absolutely need be said. There was a time not more than several decades ago when halachic decisions on widely applicable matters of import would warrant pages and pages of halachic responsa presenting claims and counter claims and halachic evidence so that those who can learn Torah and their Rabonim could open up the sefer and argue or obey and present Torah evidence either for or against. In some cases, perhaps the authority of the poisek was so dominant, or his jurisdiction so evident, that lesser Rabbonim fell in line whether they had reservations… Read more »

Go Rabbi!!!
March 4, 2021 3:34 pm

Who am i? I’m not a doctor in any way shape or form.. I’m not a rabbi in any way shape or form…

But this Rabbi made it very clear the situation
I really appreciate it!!

I hope everyone can take it and understand he’s not being biased to any side he’s giving you the Raw Truth from Halucha/Torah

Misinformed
March 4, 2021 3:35 pm

This Rabbi may know halachas, but he is very misinformed as to Covid-19 and the “vaccines”.

You are so right- this is not halacha
Reply to  Misinformed
March 4, 2021 3:45 pm

Do not say someone refusing vaccine is a rodeph!
Someone pushing vaçcine can be called a rodeph as well.
He needs to realize that this is something a patient should discuss with his doctor.
This is an experimental vaccine, not around long enough to know its safety or effacy.
No one has a right to say this is halacha which it isnt.
There are medical experts who have cured many of covid who take a different approach

thank you for clear and concise video
March 4, 2021 3:40 pm

thank you Rabbi Zirkind

Please bring sources that it brings refua
March 4, 2021 3:47 pm

Where does it say that this injection brings Refua? There is not document like that,not by the vaccine companies and not by medical studies ,this is why the information about the number of doses necessary ,variants etc.. keep changing

im not convinced
March 4, 2021 4:04 pm

instead of saying stop spreading misinformation- rebuttal them, show with facts why you think it is not accurate. not all things being said about the vaccine are conspiracy theories. there are real concerns and everyone should evaluate that for themselves with a rofeh yedid in a risk vs. benefit fashion.

Not that simple
March 4, 2021 4:08 pm

I am very disturbed by individuals in the name of Torah, who make very unsubstantiated statements and claims and build an edifice on hot air. The good Rabbi repeats many times one of the main reasons to take the vaccine is to avoid being a spreader of the virus. (or the person os a ROIDEF !!!) Is he aware there is no proof whatsoever that by taking the vaccine it protects one from being a spreader? It’s right there on the Pfizer web site. The good Rabbi talks about Cholent and someone getting sick afterwards. Does he know THOUSANDS have… Read more »

"Thousands" have died is misinformation
Reply to  Not that simple
March 4, 2021 6:29 pm

The claim that “thousands ” died after taking the vaccine is missing a key fact.

If you take a random group of a million people in the US, about 21 die a day. Nothing to do with the vaccine.

Now if you give the vaccine to millions of people, especially older people, you would expect about 21 death per day per million. Or about 630 deaths per million per month.

Those claiming “thousands” of deaths don’t seem to realise how many deaths we should see even without a vaccine in the picture.

Especially after giving the vaccine to many millions.

Not Misinformation If True
Reply to  "Thousands" have died is misinformation
March 4, 2021 8:35 pm

If thousands died after getting the vaccine that would be very significant. We can’t blindly compare numbers, and say 21 out of 1 million die anyway every day, because we are not dealing with ping pong balls. Usually, since the time of Yitzhak Avinu, there is a discernable illness that ends in death. Usually it is not discernably terminally ill people who are being vaccinated, and even it it were no one would expect a vaccination to prevent their death. Nor should people who die in unrelated accidents be considered in the analysis.

MY physician will render MY risk factors
March 4, 2021 4:30 pm

Even if the Physician deems their patient does indeed have a risk factor that would render vaccination to carry significant detrimental effects on his or her health does NOT mean he or she would be willing to write one and face potential professional scrutiny.. in fact many refuse to write one no matter how black or white the situation is! This is amoung many reasons why a mandating vaccines is unethical and many many respected Rabbonin deem it not a halachic obligation! Where there is risk there must be a choice! MY family HIS choice? NO!

All due respect
March 4, 2021 4:38 pm

A lot of comments on collive have spoken about how doctors said that the vaccine doesnt help you from getting the virus again and giving it to someone else. So why take the vaccine when we can just do dr. Zelenkos method?

Zelenko method is garbage
Reply to  All due respect
March 4, 2021 6:33 pm

The proper randomised scientific studies on hydroxyclorquine don’t show it has much efficacy. If at all.

I respected Dr Zelenko at the beginning when we didn’t have studies yet, it makes sense to try “battle field medicine” as he called it.

But we now have the randomised double blind studies and they all show that hydroxyclorquine doesn’t reduce mortality.

The fact that Dr Zelenko hasn’t acknowledged this is shameful.

Smear Campaign
Reply to  Zelenko method is garbage
March 4, 2021 8:40 pm

Dr. Zelenko was very clear that hydroxyclorquine helps reduce mortality from Covid-19 if it is administered in the early days after someone is infected.

One second
Reply to  Zelenko method is garbage
March 4, 2021 9:31 pm

Imagine it works, and you convinced so many people that it doesn’t work, and they listened and died, how would you feel. According to this Rabbi, you might even be a maisis. Pleade don’t believe the media disinformation and don’t point fingers, instead, call up or send a message to Dr. Zelenko and ask him (respectfully, of course) why he believes it works, and he’ll tell you where you can see the real studies. The randomized control garbage was never done properly (i.e. done on hospitalized people or after 5 days, or wothout all 3 drugs together, or too high… Read more »

And I think your information is not true!
Reply to  Zelenko method is garbage
March 5, 2021 1:20 am

You respected him in the beginning ?! WHY DIDN’T YOU THANK HIM FOR SAVING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLES LIVES?! Now “we” have studies?! Who’s we that I dont trust? But Zelenkos method worked! The fact he doesnt know is shameful?! The fact YOU didn’t ask him and thank him is VERYYYYY shameful!

Who funded the randomized studies?
Reply to  All due respect
March 5, 2021 5:40 am

Every study published has a sponsor, these sponsors have special interests.

It’s important to research any study and understand who is behind it and if there might be a conflicting motive.

A lot to still think about
March 4, 2021 4:54 pm

I appreciate this halachic response although I do wonder about parts of the theory. How couldn’t causation/correlation not mean anything when in regards to vaccine fatalities but it’s FACT that hospitals were making ANY death while the patient had covid, as a covid death. There was a LOT of negligence involved in the 500k deaths that has already occurred in the USA. If things were and could be done better in the future this question of the necessity of a vaccine would have a whole different look. I’m not denying that a year ago things were very scary. The losses… Read more »

Zelenko method is garbage
Reply to  A lot to still think about
March 4, 2021 6:37 pm

Israel is leading the world in vaccination, and the studies coming from Israel show that the vaccine reduces the chance if of death from Covid19 by some 99%. But this protection takes about 5 weeks from first dose. Or 2 weeks after 2nd dose.

But as Israel was ramping up the vaccine they also had a huge surge occurring slightly before.

Not Credible
Reply to  Zelenko method is garbage
March 4, 2021 8:41 pm

I don’t believe the Israeli studies are telling the whole truth.

Not ashamed
Reply to  Zelenko method is garbage
March 5, 2021 10:40 am

You do realize chance of survival from covid is like 99%…so explain to me why everyone is taking a vaccine that claims 99% protection
I can see an argument that older people should get the vaccine but for the general population I see no reason for it.
its mind boggling

math
Reply to  Not ashamed
March 5, 2021 4:20 pm

99% you wont get it and 99% you wont die, makes it about 1 in ten thousand chance to die

Agree with Rabbi Zirkind
March 4, 2021 5:14 pm

Thank you Rabbi Zirkind.
This is clear, and helpful.
It’s unbelievable that anyone wouldn’t get vaccinated.
Why live in the dark ages?

So misinformed!!!!
March 4, 2021 5:34 pm

With all due respect, the narrative by this Rabbi , begs for real information! *This “pandemic” has killed people because the safe medications with proven efficacy (by peer reviewed studies) ie, HCQ & Ivermectin, have been virtually banned from use, made difficult to obtain, and censored by all mass media outlets. WHY? We know why… because if the public at large understood how safe & effective these medications were , why would they choose an EXPERIMENTAL (yes!) “vaccine” over these medications?! Furthermore, in order for this Experimental vaccination to receive EUA (Emergency use authorization) status, (As it has NOT been… Read more »

Berel
March 4, 2021 5:46 pm

As an appendage to my earlier comment, I want state my opinion that this issue cannot be Halachically decided without intimate knowledge of the related secular domain subject matter much as and indeed more so than many modern subject matters, such as industrial food manufacture, require significant subject matter expertise, and accordingly many if not most Rabbonim who are generally qualified fall well short of rendering halachically binding decisions on this matter. Fortunately though, this isn’t some new specie of issue that we don’t deal with on regular basis. There are plenty of Rabbonim in other communities who have actual… Read more »

Pekuach Nefesh?
March 4, 2021 8:34 pm

If we are dealing with an inyan of pekuach nefesh – why have vulnerable and dying patients have been denied access to life saving treatment (like HCQ)? Why are doctors (e.g. Dr Zelenko) who have been promoting life saving treatments being persecuted and censored by the establishment (which is also so enthusiastic about promoting these experimental vaccines?)  Dr Zelenko’s life saving protocol has been validated through a rigorous peer reviewed process and has been endorsed by world leading epidemiologists such as Professor Harvey Rish from Yale university. Yet, the establishment (the same one that is coercing the public into taking this… Read more »

Just a question in Halacha...
March 4, 2021 9:06 pm

I believe that taking hcq with zinc as a preventative works and even stops transmission. Rudy Giuliani said he spoke to Dr. Zelenko and was prescribed HCQ and zinc as a preventative when he spent 4 days with trump when he had covid, and he didn’t get sick then (he got sick a couple months later). Dennis Prager wrote an article in the the Jewish press (i believe) that he and his wife take it every day and when his son (in law) – who stayed with him – got sick with covid, he and his wife didn’t catch it.… Read more »

You should have not answered the question
March 5, 2021 12:12 am

This vaccine is in clinical trial,there is reason why doctors tries new medications on clinically ill patients . So healthy young patients should risk their health when it might not even help. You are calling someone a rodef, for people that are not against vaccines,just this vaccine that is in a clinical trail. Plus the ones that already have antibodies is just like having vaccine, because if you go out of your house you constantly get new antibodies. First I believe majority should get a vaccine,if you want to get it great,if they want to wait let them,if they don’t… Read more »

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