Sam Kestenbaum – The Forward
A controversial new eruv designed to serve Modern Orthodox Jews in the traditionally Hasidic Brooklyn neighborhood of Crown Heights was allegedly vandalized — days after leaders of the Chabad-Lubavitcher group said the ritual barrier was not approved by rabbinic authorities.
The wire that is erected around Orthodox areas allowing for otherwise-prohibited activities on the Sabbath was cut and torn down twice in the last week, members of the growing Modern Orthodox community in the neighborhood said.
“It was broken in 20 places,” said Naftali Hanau, a Crown Heights resident who advocated for the new eruv. “This was clearly vandalized.”
The first episode of alleged vandalization took place sometime last week, Hanau said. Hanau and other eruv advocates repaired the ritual wire before the Sabbath, but vandals, he said, tore down the eruv again on July 11. The eruv is only three weeks old.
It is not clear who might have damaged the eruv. Hanau said police were notified but there was no word on any suspects.
Crown Heights has gone for decades without an eruv. The late Chabad leader Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson ruled that the neighborhood could not have one for religious legal reasons and his edicts are generally maintained by Chabad leaders.
Prominent Chabad rabbis have condemned the new eruv and the Crown Heights rabbinical court issued an edict saying that the neighborhood “does not have a kosher eruv in all its borders.”
Rabbi Avrohom Osdoba and Rabbi Shlomo Yehuda Halevy Segal said in the order that the eruv was not kosher and called the erection of the eruv “the devastation of the Shabbat in our honorable neighborhood.”
Despite the rabbis’ condemnation of the eruv, there is no evidence that Chabad members are responsible for the vandalism. A Chabad spokesman declined to comment.
Well said!!!
And #149, it’s not ridiculous! These people sacrificed their lives for shabbos, and crown heights definitely needs to take a lesson from them!
And why did the ‘vandalism’ happen? It’s because so many people are ignoring the rabbonim and deciding that it’s more convenient and for oneg shabbos to put up an Eruv.
Yidden, do u even hear yourselves?!?!?!?
And with all due respect, where are the those self crowned kana’im to protest daily against the utter pritzus which we witness in our community, as the level of women’s modest dress has sunken as such that it’s a charpa and busha. Did the Alter Rebbe condone that? Does the Rebbe condone it????? Where are Rabbis Osdoba and Heller shlita’s letters condemning this shameful practice which made Chabad Crown Heights be the laughingstock of Charedi NYC??? What IS going on here, do we mean Halacha and Minhag or do we mean our own religion which we snip and sketch the… Read more »
anyone threatening revenge; You’re simply proving the point
that you’re not a Shulchan Aruch Yid. #1. We may not hold a grudge #2. We may not hate a Jew in our hearts #3 We may not cause any physical or other harm to others.
It’s time for you to ask a proper Mentor or frum therapist how to deal with your disappointment!!
First of all the eruv did not just cover Crown Heights, It also covered, Prospect Heights, Windsor Terrace and Brooklyn Heights, and etc. and a Reform person would not care about an eruv, he would carry anyway on Shabbos with an eruv or without one
The idea that anyone else should care about what your grandfather did in order to satisfy his own personal need to keep Shabbos is ridiculous. Comparing your grandfather’s Jewish experience to the Jewish experience of someone living in CH today, let alone anyone else on the planet, is also ridiculous.
This article is not about tolerance. It’s about vandalism.
Do you think it is right to go against the rebbe and a bes din and carry on shabbos to get people to go to shul? Doesn’t that sound like reform judaism?
If someone cut the lines to your electric service would you also say it’s only cutting a wire or would you call the police and complain about paying to have it repaired.
This eruv is important to some people who have paid thousands to have it put up, and every cut is likely to cost hundreds to repair, money which can be used for tzedaka rather than paying for damage caused by stupid unthinking people.
A Lubavitcher with no intention of using the eruv, but trying to be considerate and showing ahavas yisroel to others.
My grandfather buried himself for 3 days in frostbite under Stalin’s watch just to honor Shabbos, & now some Knee-Flashing Gehze-Chick straight out of Lashon-Hara-Therapy slurping on a Frappechino is going to tell me how I’m supposed to practice her version of tolerance in a “free” country.
That’s what happens we had too much rachmanos, we should have listened to the doctor & ship you off to that Obedient Defient Disorder rehab where they’d have slapped you up, you prosteh yenteh, go whine about abused birdies or something
So you are saying you will get non jews to arrest jews because they cut a wire?
So far, you owe over $10,000. Considering the families in CH who go to sleep hungry, whose kids aren’t in school, you would do better donating your money to organizations like CSSY rather than to a piece of wire.
It is very important for people to understand, that by ripping off the signs which are notifying people NOT TO CARRY ON SHABBOS – because The Rabbonim Are Not Allowing The Eiruv – and Therefore The Eiruv is Posul – So if C”V Someone Carries on Shabbos He Is A Mechalel Shabbos Borabim. So by Ripping off these signs they are not fighting the rabbonim or any parties – they Are fighting G-D who Wants Every Jew To Observe Shabbos!!!! And They Are Doing Damage R”L to Every jew Who is Mechalel Shabbos Borabim!!!! Is this what you people C”V… Read more »
If you read the letter that the Rabbi wrote that put up the eruv, he said that some people from the prospect park shul had a hard time getting to shul, so they wanted to put up an eruv, and he knew that chabad was not going to use it, so he did not put it up for the labavichers and the eruv did not only cover crown heights, it covered prospect heights, Windsor Terrace, crown heights etc., do you know how much work was in putting the eruv up, and know those people that couldn’t go to shul wont… Read more »
The bet din signs by 770 against carrying on shabbos are gone. Also many in other places are gone or covered up.
It seems like the Forward found some “dirt” to kick up about frum people again… This is really their purpose in writing the article, as always…to besmirch the frum community…
tie it back up with yellow flags
In this community everyone does whatever they want. No one listens to authority. The Erev was put up without permission, it was taken down without permission. What do we expect from our children, of course they don’t listen!
A) We Heard From The Rebbe Approximately in the mid 1970’s that in lubavitch there is no terror brigades – And A terror Brigade is not a lubavitcher, So Please remember one thing: that if you want to Be A Lubavitcher You Can Not Be A Terrorist Or Behave Like One!!! And Now For the Eiruv: No Matter If The Eiruv is A Good Eiruv Or Not A Good Eiruv, When The Rabbonim Of This Shechuna Don’t Allow This Eiruv It IS NO GOOD, It’s POSUL, and you Are Not Allowed To Cary With this Eiruv, So For those People… Read more »
to post #10
but its not 100% kosher
and if u want a eruv move out
I’m not from the bes din just a simple guy, but I do remember when some Chusid went to williamsburg to learn Tanya with Sichois of the Rebbie. And they cut guys beard for so called keeping Williamsburg clear from stuff they consider not pure Torah. The Rebbie condemned them strongly so did he condemn all the Rabanuim that didn’t come out to condemn that Act. ….
So I think you can see clearly whats the Rebbies Shita about so called קנאות.
Some things don’t need to be explained by Rabbonim. Vandalism is wrong. That’s common sense.
Let’s all join for a march and protest: White Strings Matter!
That is an excellent question: who gave them the right to come into the Rebbe’s home base and go against the Rebbe, and against EVERY Rov in Crown Heights, and against EVERY lubavitcher Rov in the rest of the world and do what they want? and have the gall on top of that to cry wolf as though they are nebach the victims. Anyone with open eyes can see what their aim and goal is. one need just to look around the streets of Crown Heights and what these people have already done to this neighborhood and it becomes blatantly… Read more »
There is a yiddish expression “vos hokstu ah tchainik”. The Rebbe had a name for people like you, he called them “dehr kluginkehr”, when he talked about the yetzer hara. you give such rational sounding arguments when in fact you don’t know what you’re talking about. The Rebbe was always against the eruv! and people in wheelchairs seem to have managed to get to shul EVERY week without any problems but NEVER thought of going against the Rebbe (never mind halacha). I agree these creeps could be feeding so many poor people with the money they are throwing out in… Read more »
You must be a special brand of a menuvel to misquote the Rebbe and say the exact opposite of what the Rebbe said. your title would be more apt if it said KOL KORACH. and we all know what happened to him when he messed with the Moishe of his generation. I would advice you and your ilk to WATCH OUT you are playing a veeeeeeeeery dangerous game to start up with the Rebbe. (and to misquote him!) I’m beginning to feel sorry for you…..
Yes, right on all three accounts! it is disgusting how these people who have decided to walk around half naked and commit all sorts of other sins have the chutspah to make such a chilul Hashem by attempting to vandalize the Rebbe’s shchunah with their plans of making it a non frum -like they are neighborhood. IF THEY DON’T LIKE THE RULES OF THE REBBE’S SHCHUNAH THEY CAN MOVE OUT! No one is holding them here with chains. on the contrary if they moved out we might be lucky to see only tzniusdik dressed women walking the streets. I live… Read more »
watching this controversy is like watching your election…..
There never was, nor will b a kosher eruv…
So nothing was destroyed here…
Relax ya all….if u insist on carrying on shabbos it makes no difference if this was cut or not…guilty either way
yes, for monetary damage
Even though the rebbe was against the eruv he was more against people doing such things and you people who are saying good job you should be ashamed of yourselfs and you are not real chabad chassidim.
NO MATTER WHAT THE REBBE HAD אהבת ישראל TO EVERY JEW EVEN IF THEY DID WRONG AND HERE YOU ARE DOING THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
BS”D “The late Chabad leader Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson ruled that the neighborhood could not have one for religious legal reasons and his edicts are generally maintained by Chabad leaders.” Who wrote this article? The leaders are not the only one that follow the Lubavitcher Rebbe, is all his CURRENT chasidim. Most of the people that leave in CH are HIS Chasidim, whoever is not and lives here has the right to stay and RESPECT HIS COMAND. Is ot right to destroys nobodys properties and is not right either to built in somebodies else propertie. If the robonim say soemthing,… Read more »
Pro-Tip
When the menuvalim start threatening physical violence, they are scared.
The string is a fragile thing. I don’t advocate tearing down, if fact I’m really surprised that people don’t just leave it alone.
It’s all just really very surprising, it is.
20 spots, whoah.
So now you want to arrest a jew for standing up for the rebbe? Is this your idea of ahavas yisroel! You show right there you do not follow halacha. But you can’t go to a beis din because the bes din already said you are wrong!
please support the eruv and make kiddush chabad
the rebbe always supported eruvim and said tova alov brocha
for the supporters
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Somebody snipped my string! And they injured my ego and told me I’m wrong! Waaaaa! Let’s bring in the FBI! And the navy!
That’s not ahavas yisroel.
was made for a reason!!!
I hope never to need this eruv, though I’ve seen elderly people in wheelchairs or with walkers trying to get to shul. But the people from Kol Israel may want the freedom of carrying further than their immediate area, whether walking to the park or one of the area hospitals, which means walking through the Greater CH. In all the ridiculous comments above, no one mentioned the fact that this eruv costs thousands to put up, and each cut is another expense to repair. And if this is worth so much to some people then damaging the eruv is possibly… Read more »
Cameras will be going up at various spots along the Eruv route. In addition, effort will be made to obtain video footage from local business and buildings. We will catch these fellows. My message to who ever is doing this now STOP NOW. YOU WILL GET CAUGHT VERY SOON. Police reports have been filed and as soon as you’re caught the case will be applied to you. We have a lot of patience and we will perservere. The Eruv is here to stay. Stop before you get hurt! IF YOU SEE THIS POST AND KNOW THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT PASS… Read more »
We are to go up in kedusha, not fight to go against the rebbe and all the head rabbis of the shechuna. Ahavas yisroel is bringing people to the torah, not fighting against the rebbe and the torah. There is no eruv so there is no vandalism cutting a string. Trying to get others to go against everything the rebbe stands for and saying if we object we don’t have ahavas yisroel is disgusting
Even though the rebbe was against the eruv he was more against people doing such things and you people who are saying good job you should be ashamed of yourselfs and you are not real chabad chassidim.
NO MATTER WHAT THE REBBE HAD אהבת ישראל TO EVERY JEW EVEN IF THEY DID WRONG AND HERE YOU ARE DOING THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
If we want to be so ahavas yisraeldik so maybe chevra ahavas yisrael should do without the eiruv, because most ppl don’t want it!
All of you so called “good Jews” applauding this behavior are a disgrace to Lubavitch and Judaism. The Chabad way that us “outsiders” are taught by the Rebbe’s Shluchim are appalled by this. It appears that Chabadniks are above Ahavos Yisroel. The Rebbe “might” not approve of the Eruv , but he DEFINITELY would NOT approve of your behavior. Shame on all of you.
There never was, nor will b a kosher eruv…
So nothing was destroyed here…
Relax ya all….if u insist on carrying on shabbos it makes no difference if this was cut or not…guilty either way
after seeing many comments: the Eruv was done. Point. Next step: Goishe News reporting that Chabad vandalized the Eruv. Next step: All the “Modern Orthodox” from ”Anash” carrying on Shabbos (ח”ו). Next step: Finally will be seen the diference in the שכונה between Anash, Yerei Shomaim and Frum Normal People, and all those Erev Rav that only live here physically but not Mishelonu. (And we have to think how to bringing them back to Yidishkait, and Mekarev Zain Dem, instead of continuing sending Shluchim to Pinos Nidachos. Today, Mivtzoim is (ALSO) in our 4 Amos.) Time to prepare to the… Read more »
Your comment is the best by far!! lol!!!
I hope the police catch them first cause if me and my guys catch them they won’t walk away without serious damage to their bodies. We will break their bones. A few beaten up guys won’t harm anyone. What’s next on the list? We will move against their buildings for various violations.
Who gave you the right to go and destroy the eruv, because you didn’t like it in Crown Heights, and there are some people that liked it up, whoever did not want to use it didn’t have to, I would not use the eruv, but there are people that did, not everyone that lives in Crown Heights is Chabad, Do you think you made the Rabbi proud now , I hope they find the people that did this, get a life
Everything’s been said, probably more than once. Question is what will be the final outcome or results. Will we have cooperation and Shalom. That would be the way to Moshiach and Geulah!
Had an eruv been up in 5748 trust me it would have been ripped down the first week.
So why are people surprised that there ate still some oldies left?
The people who vandalize the authority of the local rabbonim are vandals
I’m not a fan of Eruv, to the contrary, but this vandalism makes me ashamed
Except we have people who terrorise
Lubavitch is love and love is Lubavitch
Whoever did this is not Chabad and if u are not Chabad then u can use the eruv so why cut it down
This is one of the most vile mean things I have ever heard of … we are supposed to be a family… ppl wonder why chabad is falling apart…
It would be nice to get his opinion on this…
אנשי הערוב רב. בא נראה.מה הם הביאו לנו? חילול שבת! אי ציות לרבנים מחלוקת אי ציות לרבי נשיא הדור זלזול בשכנים זלזול בהורים בזבוז ממון של יהודים חילול השם בכל העולם חילול ליובאוויטש ועכשיו הם מאיימים במסירה! מה בסך הכל עשו ??שברו חוט? אה…זה וונדליזם…ו מה ששברו את החומה של הדת כאן בקרון היטטס זה לא וונדליזם???הפריצות והפרצות בדת שהם מבאים זה הוונדליזם הכי גדול שיכול להיות !!!!!!ואין פוצה פה ומצפצף. ועוד יש להם החוצפה לצעוק כהקוזק הנגזל!! שבועות מתחננים התושבים הרף מספיק אל תביאו לנו את החולה הרעה הזו….. וכאילו הם ח”ו כהמתיוונים מחכים שיגעו להם בחוט הקדוש ואז… Read more »
This eruv has no value so who cares that it’s cut into 2000 pieces? For some it just symbolizes the lack of respect for values in this community so it’s gotta go down. Anyone who doesn’t like it should take their mini skirts and pink yarmulkas and go form a community somewhere else.
May there continue to be many more such besuros tovos. Stand up for what’s right. Yes!!!
Clearly you do not know how to read, the blue area is the Kol Israel Eruv which has been around for 10 years. The grey area is the Greater Crown Heights Eruv.
Reminds me of a 2 year old that scribbles up a wall and then protests when his masterpiece is scrubbed off. Our community must not be defiled and spiritually vandalized with chillul shabbos. Don’t mess it up and tnen cry that the mess is cleaned up!!! Unbelievable chutzpah.
This issue is not a physical one, it is a spiritual one and since the Rebbe already gave his opinion of what should and should not be, that will be the reality in the physical
There was never an eruv and there never will be an eruv
Are you saying you would bring a din Torah against the people who cut the eruv?
I have not yet supported the Eruv but in response to this anti semetic act I’m pledging $100 towards the eruv.
Additionally, I hope they find the scum that did this and make them pay dearly.
This is terrible, just tragic. A unfathomable tragedy.
Who would have thought that this would happen. Very surprising. I could not be more surprised.
If you were to conjure a list of most surprising things what could happen, this would be probably be on it.
20 places, woah.
There was no eiruv, and there is no eiruv!
people disregard the rebbe and then become the big mavens in what the Rebbe wants when it suits them. The Rebbe is the world’s biggest zealot! mivtzoyim, get people to keep Shabbos, kosher- ker a velt! Because of ahavas yisroel, the Rebbe makes demands on people to do more mitzvos. The Rebbe never says everyone should just do what they want.
i will not use the eruv but there is no reason to cut it just pretend its not there ppl who carry will do anyway
Get off ur phone and go to bed, you’ll need your energy to protest vandalism tomorrow!
to get symphaty
BDE to the Eruv because any Lubavitcher with brains in his head LISTENS TO THE REBBE!
because last time I checked, LUBAVITCHERS LISTEN TO THE LUBAVITCHER REBBE!
do you know how to read? The eruv area is marked in blue. Montgomery is NOT marked as part of the eruv. How many more people are making the same mistake?
the rebbe NEVER said”do whatever you want and I’ll love you”
The rebbe is always pushing for better and more growth, NEVER sitting back and saying k fine I love you do whatever you want. Because that isn’t ahavas yisroel! True ahavas yisroel is caring if someone is being mechallel shabbos, and trying to stop them!
putting something in public property against the majority of the public is basically making hefker
If some of you would open a shulchan aruch (the same one that tells us if an eruv is kosher) and read, you may come across a section that explains the power of a bais din (it’s very powerful btw) if the bais din condemned it, I have no choice but to condone the “vandalism” of the “Eruv”
If you are not using Eruv but destroying it how you can call yourself Rebbes Chossid after it ?
Ahavas Isroel ?
Please who did it pay back and put it back
People react strongly when others are being chilul shabbos
The part of the eruv that was cut was actually not the new eruv but the eastern part of the Park Slop Eruv that has been up for 20 years which the Crown Heights Eruv is an extension of. It was fixed before shabbos, and checked. I personally was walking on Washington Ave and saw it was up shabbos morning. People stop saying it BDE every time it is vandalized it is repaired and checked before shabbos. To 28, dude you clearly do not know how to read an eruv map. Montgomery and Albany is within the eruv, the eruv… Read more »
for those that insist on the eruv, take all your heterim and excuses and boich svoros and get the beep outta here! Lets see how long you will last in another community while blatantly disregarding the standards
Disgusting..
In 1979 Rav Ahron Kotler said there should be no eruv in Lakewood and his words carry weight until today. I am so embarrassed how in Lubavitch there are people who would desecrate the Rebbe’s wishes with no shame.
It’s a beautiful world out there! Even without an Eruv! Just like you managed before! without an Eruv!
carrying on Shabbos when the rabbonim said its not allowed is disgusting.
Well said- straight to the point! One’s values can be told by their lack of clothing when walking in the street. A new definition of disgusting
A real smart person is someone who can admit that he doesn’t know something. So quit saying that there can be an Eruv, because no one knows better than the rebbe! And the rebbe said NO!!!!
Is putting an eruv in my community without my permission not vandalism?!?! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE??!! PUTING UP THE ERUV WAS THE ULTIMATE VANDALISM!!!
There is no vandalism here. This is throwing out the garbage. It’s not crazy to insist on values in a community. It’s crazy not to listen to the Rabbonim.
The Rabonim should have said before that no one should vandalize through eruv. NOT THE REBBES WAY.
This is beautiful behavior. The Lubavitch community will not allow desecration of the Rebbe’s instructions. What a comfort that there are people who take risks to stand up for what’s right
I think it’s more disgusting to walk in the street with a skirt that covers your tuches and a kerchief that ain’t covering no hair
flush your money down the toilet- it will go to better causes. BTW if ur serious, write your name and address
Because I’m sure there are different opinions about that as well. I’m sure there are ligit rabnonim who would say even though the local rabbis say it’s not allowed that you can still build it and those who want to use it can and those who don’t won’t! I is not that white and black! And because of all of this confusion people think hey are doing gods will by braking public property!! Is this normal! It’s totally ridiculous! We don’t live in a shtetle where there is one rov of the village and everyone listens to him.. We love… Read more »
A person that does damage to a Eruv is for sure Pasul for Edus and his wine is Yayin Nesech.
Didn’t they teach u in kindergarten about listening to our elders?
This is purifying the Rebbe’s shchuna ובערת הרע מקרבך
are you waiting for a pat in the back, a medal? like what are you proud of exactly that now you are your own independant person and you cant listen to authority.
whats it the op-posers business if theres an eiruv? if you dont want to use it dont use it! why do you havto tear it down? it has nothing to do with you! who asked your opinion?
i want to clarify to you that there are big chachomim studying eiruvim in kolel today already a year and raslize that there are alot of details and complications. \Just bec. an eirv is kosher someplace else does not mean you can make a kosher eiruv incrown heights. kingston and eastern parkway is reshus horabim and there is no way this can be part of an eiruv according to all opinions. those that say it can did not understand correctly. rabi Levin and Heller are the experts. would you rely on a student or first year medical dr.to do hearrt… Read more »
This is disgusting behavior. The Lubavitch community does not own the streets and the space. You can decide to use it or not, but you cannot destroy something that does not belong to you. Uch. What a chillul hashem and chillul lubavitch.
look in likkutei sichos volume 4 page 1073: If Pinchus would’ve asked, the answer would be that he shouldn’t do it. But he had mesiras nefesh and did it. He therefore merited to be a Kohen.
If you are proud of it, please post your name and address! Also so we know not to trust your kashrus!
Was that before or after it was snipped? Lol
Time to make peace and support the eruv khalocha
get the eruv down and the outcome will be shalom. The only true shalom is thru Torah, without compromise
te Rebbe screamed Doh vet nit zein kein eruv” so its not just dont use it , dont force your opinion etc. this is not a kosher eiruv mduraisa, period.Trust me, those that know halacho know that there cannot be a kosher eiruv here according to all opinions. only through alleyways or backyards one block to the houses behind at most.
dont forget vandalizing an eiruv is not violent, its not slapping, its not beatind
, please dont take things out of context, dont exaggerate, how could a lubavitcher… control yourselves
Police!!! Somebody snipped my string!!
if it can be put up in public property, it can be taken down in public property
I will give $500 towards eruv for every act of vandalism
I’m crying buckets for that fake eruv. NOT.
Nobody likes you… Well guess WHAT? I don’t EITHER!!
No one destroyed the eruv because there never was an eruv to begin with.
What you had was a “lets-pretend-we-have-an-eruv” toy.
Toys are for kids. Adults should learn and keep the Law, not confuse people with idiotic new ideas. I’m glad it was torn down 3 weeks in a row. Now there is a chazaka that it will never stand.
Just LISTEN for a minute to the rabonim who are smarter, older, or smarter than you! Is it about your ego! Get a life!
I carried this Shabbos with this eruv
zealousness has a place in torah, and this is one of them. Lman Hashem, stop this bogus eruv
I checked it and conforms to the alter Rebbe guidelines
Listening to rabonim is listening to Hashem. The opposite is also true. Why are we trying to outsmart people who are smarter than us?
funny joke. some people stunk up this neighborhood with crap and cry vandalism when others clean it up. Take your crap outta here and don’t mess up the Rebbe’s neighborhood any more thatn you already did
an eruv has unique laws- it needs to be established by the Rabbis of that community, or it is not valid
don’t vandalize our shchuna with chillul Shabbos and then cry about vandalism.
it’s a chillul Hashem to carry on Shabbos. If anyone’s worried about chillul Hashem, they should worry about people being openly mechallel Shabbos.
if you would like to be like pinchas see what the rebbe writes likkutei sichos 23 pg. 303-304 of what actual קנאות is specifically when it comes to shalom is it true if it leads to anything else but shalom the rebbe says its not real קנאות these are not my words rather the rebbe’s if you dont believe me check it up. ma’ase zimri was also against amido’rayso nevertheless we only applaud pinchos if its outcome is shalom
These people who did this should not be referred to as vandals!!!
Not quite a kidush hashem
Takes courage to stand up for what’s right
Only three weeks old… BDE
I’m totally against this eiruv but I’m totally against any vandalism. Not the way. But it is pretty funny all these pro eiruv people all of a sudden big fans of what the Rebbe would want LOL. Please. The pro eiruv people among us – if you cared what the Rebbe wanted there wouldn’t be an eiruv. It wasn’t extended to our area for people who live in prospect heights it was done by our own.
Is it true that even though it may be a kosher eiruv and it may not be meant for chabad that all Jews living in the crown heights area according to Halacha must follow the psak of the local beis din? Or can I be living in ch and not follow the local beis din because I follow my own rabbi from another city? What is the law when it. Comes to beis din zones … Anyone? If that is true then if the local beis din say no one is allowed to trim their beards or aoneorhjhg else you… Read more »
This is not modern orthodox, this is not frum. I saw someone carrying on Albany and Montgomery. The map shows that the eruv is nowhere near there. Do people not even know where the eruv is?!?!
need to respect fellow jews.. especially when it comes to holy mitzva of eruvim
Mix the ahavas yisroel card out of this. Not ok to be mechallel shabbos in public. About vandalism, is it ok to stick stickers on someone else’s signs???? Hmmm… Respecting others properties?
we need to stop making a chillul hashem
We can’t compare hurting humans to vandalizing an unwanted eiruv! I wouldn’t have the guts to destroy this so called “eiruv” but I say kol hakovid to those who did! Soon it’s parshas pinchas, and we learn from pinchas zelousness!
Keep up the good work. Parshas Pinchus- the master vandalizer- coming up next. Pinchus had more ahavas yisroel than you and your mother. But he did what needed to be done
This happened in Williamsburg, Police got street camera recording and the anti-eruv group that vandalized the Eruv were put in jail for a year. I wouldn’t play with fire like that. It is against everything the Rebbe believed. I am not pro the Eruv, but this is a new low.
Don’t start now quoting the rebbe when the eruv is clearly against the rebbe. You can’t pick and choose
The eruv was not made for lubavitch it was made for other jews who live in the area. To break it on purpose is definitely not permitted. Just as the onecwho broke claims that it is against halacha so is what he also against halacha
To comment 10go read the Rebbe’s sicha again the Rebbe said shurin said that Chabad are terrorists and Rebbe said what he said us not true in fact the Rebbe was very upset with him
what has happened with chabad? chabad is supposed to be about loving EVERY single jew. if you dont like it dont force your views on others! If the criminals are bochurim then our chinuch system needs to be fixed. if it is israeli bochurim, they shouldnt be allowed in CH if they act like this.
This is as clear as day, the Rabonim sent someone to vandalize and make the Eruv useless
If you don’t want to use the Eruv for that ever reason you have, DONT USE IT! But don’t go sending your thugs to destroy it
Today you started this kind of war, this will end up at your doorsteps…
How can anyone rely on this eruv if at any moment it could be damaged? This was to be expected given that 99.9 percent of the local residents did not want it built to begin with.
Any vandalism will just strengthen the eruv, and turn all public opinion to it. Vandalizing the Eruv will be winning the battle, but losing the war.
A shanda that there even is an Eruv when the Rebbe was vocally clear about it in Crown Heights.
Ppl are always saying where are the Rabbonim? When all of the Rabbonim of CH condemned the Eruv all of a sudden now we don’t have to listen to them??
We don’t condone violence, however this should have been expected by the eiruv committee.
Similar acts of eiruv sabotage took place in all communities were an eiruv was pushed against the will of a sizable population.
im sure the Rebbe wouldn’t be happy
if you agree with the vandal
go trow stones onto shabbes driver!!
And to brake and ERUV which is 100% Kosher is purely against the REBBE teaching. Their was a time when Chabad CHasidim were attacking a jew in FLatbush by the name of Shurin. Terror and many other things were done to him by Chabad. The Rebbe said those who use terror and vandalism are not part of chabad and should pack their bags and leave. Chabad are not running Terror Brigades.
Needs to condemn this vandalism
After reading this anyone with Yiras Shomayim won’t use the Eruv even if it’s a good Eruv. Chances are that the wire will be cut somewhere according to what I’m reading.
Exactly who BUT a Lubavitcher would destroy it.
Don’t think someone from BP or Whilly came here because he was bored.
Chabad are not terrorist and these guys are working for the Rabbonim directly. I hope they get arrested. COL are you kidding who else would brake down the ERUV if not chabad?
Rebbe said not to make public because u have ppl who might do this so ppl can’t carry
Although I strongly believe that אין לנו אלא דברי בן עמרם and a Chosid should not carry in Crown Heights no matter what Eiruv is erected, I don’t believe that the Rebbe would agree to vandalism. I hope that this act has nothing to do with Lubavitch.
what a shame…… not
Yes, the people who put this up did not but that doesn’t give us a pass to do whatever we want in response on our own. The Rebbe did not call for vandalism. The rabbonim that ruled this eruv wasn’t ok, did not call for vandalism. Those who vandalize are like those kanoim who throw rocks at cars on shabbos
Bh. About time people follow the rebbes takana