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A Common ‘Sem Syndrome’ Seldom Discussed

As a young student, Esther Shemtov (nee Wineberg) experienced a disordered relationship with food coupled with guilt and shame. Today, as a Certified Health Coach, she identifies it as "a common sem syndrome." Full Story

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August 2, 2021 8:20 pm

My friend and I went into sem with a plan, determined not to gain the dreaded “sem 20” and not to spend a ton of money.
We only ate the food provided by the seminary as long as we were in town. We didn’t buy food locally. When we had an off Shabbos we bought what we wanted or needed. It worked very well for us and it’s what I suggest to my girls before they leave home and so far BH it’s a plan they can stick to and don’t associate with weight.

Based on what your wrote...
August 2, 2021 8:26 pm

It should be called parents with messed up values syndrome… nothing to do with sem… seems like some parents need to work on how their view their bodies and their children bodies…

Here, here
Reply to  Based on what your wrote...
August 2, 2021 9:44 pm

Amen to that!👏👏👏 they view so much their body that they forget their own soul!

Thank God
August 2, 2021 8:27 pm

Can’t say My friends or myself had this issue… their attitude or attitude taught to them by others probably preceded their year in seminary.

Seminary
August 2, 2021 9:04 pm

Girls should learn more about health,nutrition, intimacy, relationships and anything else that pertains to the rest of their lives.

There is a huge lack of education.
Girls go from seminary to dating with no tools or skills for marriage.

High time for change of curriculum.

BH my sem did teach me a healthy perspective
Reply to  Seminary
August 2, 2021 9:43 pm

Thank you Mrs Pikarski of pnimiyut sem for teaching us tips for shalom bayit and taharat hamishpocha (now I just gotta put it to action😉BH

Sem Weight Gain
August 2, 2021 9:44 pm

I gained 10lbs in seminary. Very soon after coming home from seminary it came off without any effort on my part. It may be helpful to know that while it’ll probably come on fast it should also come off fast. Most girls don’t retain their sem weight. It’s normal, not so contrable and ok.

Yes, thanks for addressing this issue!
Reply to  Sem Weight Gain
August 2, 2021 10:02 pm

And of you don’t lose the weight after that’s also fine

Thank you
August 2, 2021 9:53 pm

Thank you for presenting something super important that is seldom discussed! Another factor is that health/woman’s health ought to be discussed in seminary. It’s so important for children to have a healthy mother, for fertility etc. Meanwhile seminary is providing food cooked in soy oil and a limit on healthy snacks offered (anyone else experience the scramble for an apple when there are only 20 purchased for a group of 117?) I believe that this is a major cause of the late night sugar and pizza cravings; the lack of proper nutrition. Of course relationship and attitude toward food and… Read more »

Fruits
Reply to  Thank you
August 3, 2021 12:19 am

I remember the weekly shipment of fruits were finished in like 2 days

THIS
Reply to  Thank you
August 3, 2021 8:10 pm

I think a big part of the problem is what’s being provided. I understand that a lot of the time it comes down to price (pasta and potatoes is cheaper than fresh veggies in many places, oil makes everything taste good) and I don’t think that our institutions are doing anything wrong but it starts early. A school lunch or camp ‘shabbos party’ that is literally all junk (washed down with fruit juice) sets the kids up for failure. teaching children to eat until they feel satisfied and to trust their own hunger is so important. We see it in… Read more »

Yikes
August 2, 2021 9:54 pm

The fact that this article had to be written at all is so sad. What sort of parents need tips on how to treat their daughters with respect and love? Why wasn’t this article directed towards the girls themselves? Women should know that any comments on weight gain or weight loss are inappropriate and distasteful and potentially abusive, comments from parents and friends included. If this type of language is heard around crown heights, we have to step in and call each other out for creating an unhealthy environment. Your weight and your body is your own. The patriarchy has… Read more »

It's not just about beauty
Reply to  Yikes
August 3, 2021 1:30 am

Unfortunately many people in our community, both male and female ,are very much overweight and that leads to numerous health problems, including being more vulnerable to COVID-19

No.
Reply to  Yikes
August 3, 2021 12:55 pm

Nothing to do with patriarchy – this is about health, fertility, and mental/emotional stability, which can all be impacted by obesity.

I hear you but....
Reply to  Yikes
August 3, 2021 8:13 pm

I completely agree that picking on your child’s weight is inappropriate. This article is also speaking to people who unfortunately have their own unhealthy relationship with food and may unintentionally be sending that message to their children. Also there are many extremely well-intentioned parents who worry about their child’s weight creeping up (or even ballooning) and how it will negatively impact their health or happiness. they may want to help but not know how and say ‘the wrong thing.’ This article also speaks to them

the patriarchy???
Reply to  Yikes
August 12, 2021 7:07 pm

why would you blame your issues on the patriarchy? are you ungrateful for the life that you have been given? are saying that you really think you have a better system in mind? that you have the solution to everyone else’s problems? that if everyone thought how you think, and you’d smash the patriarchy everyone would be better off? do you think its only men setting beauty standards and girls don’t judge each other for how they look? why not take the responsibility like a grown up?

Yes, thanks for addressing this issue!
August 2, 2021 10:01 pm

This is a big issue, and thank you so much for addressing it. The Lubavitcher world, mothers, sisters, and friends need to stop putting such a big emphasis on weight. We are people besides our body weight and if families would have healthy outlooks on body size that would make girls seminary year so much less stressful and they would actually be able to enjoy the year. And yes, they very possibly will put on weight but we have to end the weight gain stigma.

It's not "the lubavitch world"
Reply to  Yes, thanks for addressing this issue!
August 3, 2021 11:20 am

It’s the individuals who are Lubavitch with these values that need to redirect in this area. Unfortunately it is a reflection of the value system of the entertainment, social media and and fashion industries around us, and a lot of what will help is to work on not paying any attention to the “shikereh goy in paris” that are found in so many places around us. Be U (you) tiful in healthy ways, and that will ultimately mean different sizes and looks for each individual. Watching what we eat is crucial for our overall health, but when watching what we… Read more »

How about asking seminary ...
August 2, 2021 11:15 pm

to serve decent food

middle path needed
August 3, 2021 12:32 am

As always, the best way to deal with this is to reject extremes at either end. It’s o.k. to gain some weight when one is away from home for an extended period of time, but it’s not o.k. to indulge in an overabundance of delicious snacks (great Israeli cholov yisroel ice-cream, for example) while telling oneself “I’ll lose the nosh- weight with the rest of the weight gain when I get home.” If parents send their daughters off with an abundance of love and a lighthearted but honest remark such as “Don’t worry if you put on some extra pounds.… Read more »

Seminary
August 3, 2021 1:02 am

Bigger picture we need to stop sending kids to seminary. It’s a waste or money that provides no real value

Im against stigma
August 3, 2021 1:26 am

But if people learned about nutrition and eating healthy, they wouldn’t be either underweight or overweight or fall for all the nutty diets out there. Eat a little less than you usually do, cut out the junk and eat more veggies and you will have success

Another approach
August 3, 2021 1:59 am

Seminaries should focus on teaching these young adults how to live in a healthy way. The Mittler Rebbe writes that a small hole in the body is a big hole in the soul. This means we should take care of our mini Beis HaMikdosh, our body. This includes eating a healthy diet for life, i.e., not “being on a diet” but that “diet” means everything we put into our bodies. And yes, we should not be eating late at night. The Rambam writes about this in Mishneh Torah. These young adults should also be taught about daily exercise – which… Read more »

Excellent article
August 3, 2021 3:16 am

This is a very important message. All too often we greet people by saying, wow, you look great!! Did you lose weight? How about focusing more on being great than looking great! That is the motto I always told my girls” if you spend as much time on being great as you do in looking great, imagine how great you can be!!!

Chabad lady from london uk
August 3, 2021 5:36 am

Hi Esther, this is your Bobby reading your article. Well written! My philosophy is: The bigger the Bobby, the more to cuddle and love. Im worth my weight in gold even though your Zaidy claims hes illegally married to a third of me!

Keep up your good work. Nice combination of Chassidus and food. I think the Tanya method would be called Isskafya!!

Don’t confuse iskafya with health consciousness
Reply to  Chabad lady from london uk
August 3, 2021 12:51 pm
Not just in sem
August 3, 2021 9:08 am

Thank you for sharing. This starts when/ if girls go away for high school. It’s very difficult to know what our daughters are eating when away. Sometimes it goes the other way, when trying to eat healthy they loose too much weight.

Check your mezouzos and tefilin
August 3, 2021 1:34 pm

We had to deal with a family whose daughter was anorexic,
We had their mezouzos and tefilin checked as well as the entrance to the building Mezouza ( in Israel) and BH the girl came out of the hospital and totally recovered
Have your mezouzos and tefilin checked
Moshiach Now

Such an important issue
August 3, 2021 9:27 pm

Thank you so much for writing this article that EVERYONE needs to read! Thank you for bringing up this very important issue. While seminary can be an amazing experience, it can also provide an environment that encourages an unhealthy relationship with food. We need to prepare our girls for this reality so they can be self-aware about their eating and recognize if they are developing unhealthy habits/mindset.
Most importantly, girls in seminary (and of all ages) should be aware that there are people like Esta Shemtov that can help if they need guidance in this area.

Mom of girls
August 4, 2021 9:41 am

I wish the seminaries and school events, and community gatherings served healthier choices. I see so much garbage being served in the name of celebration while there is so much growing awareness of more healthful eating. Lets step up as a community.

to not the lubavitch world"
August 8, 2021 2:45 pm

Your comment is right on the mark; the culture described in the article is seeping in from a world that should be kept foreign to our thinking. P.S. The following has nothing at all to do with the article under discussion but saying “individuals who are Lubavitch” is analogous to saying “individuals who are America,” instead of “individuals who are American.” Alternatively, you could say the “world of Lubavitch” because Lubavitch, in that case, would remain a noun. The way to turn the noun Lubavitch into an adjective (describing the person) is to add the suffix “er” to the word… Read more »

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