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770 Yeshiva Goes After Cell Phones

The central 770 Yeshiva will confiscate bochurim's cell phones unless they are given to a technician to install "a good and strong filter." Full Story

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ניטא קיין פארפאלין
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ניטא קיין פארפאלין

Better later then never

Wow. I'm impressed
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Wow. I'm impressed

Yay. The hanhalah are doing their jobs!

Also they are sending a very good and strong message!

Mesgugas
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Mesgugas

If what you believe is not not capable to withstand the internet then it’s not worth believing in altogether. Just a thought for all the haters

Seriously?
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Seriously?

It’s that bad? It’s commendable the Yeshiva is doing something about it. Next up – stopping the violence.

Great idea- yunger man
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Great idea- yunger man

Can you please share the info of the technicians so we to can benefit.
Thank You.

ymg
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ymg

Some chassidic groups ban internet altogether. Here we are lenient, to the destruction of some, chas v’shalom, may G-d save us. It is the very least that should be done. We must tell the yetzer hara where to go.

While you're at it ...
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While you're at it ...

Ban drinking and save lives.

GOOD!!
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GOOD!!

banning internet isn’t enforceable, but a filter changed every half year or so can be do-able. Adults have problems, but do you remember the temptations and pull of the YH when you were kids??!!think back. Another (harder to enforce but more effective)way is to ban cell phones with internet. Being able to call and leave text and voice messages should be enough for most legitimate uses.

Flaws
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Flaws

I have the k9 filter on my phone but also the Facebook app which can serve as a browser by merely a few clicks, so im

FILTERS FOR CELL PHONES!
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FILTERS FOR CELL PHONES!

Are the people who offer and install the filters on the cell phones the same people or related to the ones offering the filters for the water?!… maybe all the bochurim in yeshiva should also have filters on their eyes and ears too?!… Do you Really Believe, That Going in This Direction, Will Produce Frum and Cassidish Bochurim?!… maybee the time came, to make major changes in the Yeshiva?!… Hashem Yeracheim al oisonu kulonu!! Avol Ad Mosai??!!…

I agree
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I agree

Drinking should also be banned instead of encouraged! I have seen countless families suffering because of the drinking problems that are groomed by fabrenghens and Shabbos kiddushes where alcohol is rampant!

Disagree
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Disagree

These bochurim are 21 through 25 years old. At a Certain point we can’t babysit people anymore. They’ll eventually need to learn on their own how to behave. And this is the perfect age for them to start learning.

To number 3
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To number 3

I think you forgot about screen addictions and yetzer horah.
Of course this is a good idea.

This is a good and helpful initiative.
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This is a good and helpful initiative.

Why do you need to give it a negative title?
The ruchniyus of our generation is not being helped by smart phones.

The chabad way
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The chabad way

Great that there is no banning. Cant agree enough about filters though.

Charaidy Wannabe
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Charaidy Wannabe

Chabad has still not gotten over our “chareidy wannabe” complex. The thing is, we’re not them. We can’t even do it properly no matter how hard we try. One day (maybe) we’ll realize that. Until then, we’ll keep on making fools of ourselves

not enough
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not enough

they should be stricter, and not allow phones in zal; and punish when seen in zal. I do not want to support any yeshiva if the bochurim are on phones, they may as well not be in yeshiva and learn how to earn money instead

To #3
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To #3

What we believe in will certainly withstand the temptations present online. The Torah isn’t going anywhere. The question here is – are WE strong enough? And the answer is usually no. There is no shame in needing a filter; there is much to be ashamed about when not installing one.

Plz Share with the rest of us!
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Plz Share with the rest of us!

Please share which Web Filter will be installed so that the rest of us can install on our tech devices. I’m not sure which one to install for my family.

finally
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finally

Boruch Hashem. It’s long overdue

mob
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mob

Try using OPENDNS. It works very well and cannot be overridden without the administrator password.

Good option
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Good option

It’s true for everyone. I have a filter on my home computer but not on my phone. It makes a lot of sense, since we live in a digital world where banking and airlines penalize you if you don’t use them online. I’m not throwing out my smartphone but i would definitely put a filter on it.

cellphone
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cellphone

bochurim shouldn’t have cellphones on them during the yeshiva sdorim at all. Beside the disturbing learning calls many can play games during seder without internet conexion.

About time
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About time

In most chassidishe schools parents must sign that they have only filtered Internet. If anyone is found with a phone without a hechsher their child is thrown out of school.

download videos
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download videos

and how many down load filth on a n innnocent phone and watch it in a private place where no one can see, even if their old fashion cell phones have no internst.
they can go anywhere and do that…
mken foon dem katz nit ztu nemen dem laiterel!!!!
hashem yerachem oleinu!!!10 years down the line we lost a whole beautiful genenration , till the adults chapped zich what is going on!! we need Moshiach NOW!!!!!!
and even the mashpiaim and menahalim and Mashgichim need the SAME FILTER mit a laingeh vaishe borde!!!!

how to get opendns?
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how to get opendns?

where can i get it?
i need one desperately!! i want to be good ,but it is overwelmingly hard!!!!
please where can i download the filter? for the phones?

770 בחור
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770 בחור

Too late for me.It ruined my life as a 770 bochur.
Boruch hashem once married things are easier.but the damadge was done.

poor bochurim
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poor bochurim

if it is true, tat they are 21-25, then that is really sad that they are being like that…

im in a school that does this on our phones and it makes us feel like babies, we hate it.

parents should be on top of their childrens’ phone. and if they are not, they will suffer the responsibility of having chilled children.

Long time ago yeshiva bochur
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Long time ago yeshiva bochur

Are the pay phones still upstairs,near the coats?

Wake up.
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Wake up.

Bochurim need to get married early. Not start thinking of dating at 25. Yeah. At 25 they have lots of stuff in their heads already and can’t make chassidishe decisions anymore.
It’s a new world. We need to roll with the punches.

Married men
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Married men

What makes you think married men dont do this too? Are you that naive? Filters should be installed on everyone’s phones. There is so much filth on the internet you have no idea just how bad it is. Don’t wait until its too late and you find out it has entered your home too. Good for the yeshiva!

Filters are a waist of time
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Filters are a waist of time

Almost any filter can be bypassed. The internet with all its challenges is her to stay. Instead of all these big Rabbis trying to stop the internet why don’t they start educating.

IMHO the Rabbi’s fear the internet not because of the filth on it but because they can easily be challenged. OMG there are good Jews in the world that have a different opinion then this Rabbi and are not burning in hell.

As a young father I will not add any filter to anything but rather focus on educating my children right from wrong.

Disgusted with systems
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Disgusted with systems

If grown people can’t control themselves and have to be treated like children, we have a much bigger problem.

Filters for everyone
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Filters for everyone

Smart idea!
Ur only fooling urself to think who needs it….torah says to guard ur eyes so y not protect urself… Or do u wanna wait till its too late and the guys are on a different planet hard to return from that will have long term negative affects on what is right and wrong

to #12 and #28
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to #12 and #28

kevutza bochrim, are 19 -20 I believe. Like any other Shiur daled bocher.

Why only kvutza bochurim need filters!?
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Why only kvutza bochurim need filters!?

Why are only the kvutza bochurim’s phones being installed with filter!? What about the rest of the 770 bochurim!? Why are you singleing them out!? Everyone has a teiva for the internets! Discrimination!

yes!
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yes!

and the American Bochurim too!

#32
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#32

So I guess all the laws of yichud are disgusting bc grown men should be trusted. We are told ” sin crouches by the door” and man cannot be trusted AD YOM MOSO (until he dies).

Applock
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Applock

free app for Android is the best lock works like a charm. The Hanholo should make sure they have every phone on this app lock

what would the yeshiva do if
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what would the yeshiva do if

they filter one phone in the Yeshiva, and keep another phone for private internet use

Baby's
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Baby's

#28. Do bochurim also feel like babies when hearing the Aseres Hadibros?

Unhackable? Nope.
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Unhackable? Nope.

There is, absolutely, positively, no such thing as a filter that cannot be hacjed

To # 19
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To # 19

The best filter I have found is the venishmartem cloud filter.
That being said, filters only work for those that want to be filtered. There really is no filter that cannot be bypassed or hacked

to #21
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to #21

i easily broke through opendns without an administration password, but if i needed one i could easily do that too

by putting
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by putting

by putting to much rules people start rebbeling so stop this nonsense of so much rules

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Why are people even pretending this is going to happen? Since when has any rules been enforced in 770, seriously get real this is just to answer those who ask why lubavitch just allow the Internet in there yeshivos unsupervised.

Gimmie a braek!!!!!
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Gimmie a braek!!!!!

No announcements about advancements in learning but a public announcement (that should remain internal) about issues that make noise.

Elephant in the room!
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Elephant in the room!

So now these bochrum can follow the lead of almost every mesivta/zal bochur out there today, by having 2-3 different phones to satisfy the naive (at this point it has to be intentionally naive!) hanhalos of all Yeshivos. The latest unfiltered smartphone for themselves, an old-fashioned dumb phone, and now maybe a filtered smartphone, to show the hanhala. The people, not the phones, are “dumb”!

TO # 32
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TO # 32

Very nice to think you are smart and that is enough to educate children not to surf where they r not supposed to.
The problem is that filthy pictures are posted also on web pages of news, and u don;t even have to click to see further!!!!!!!!!
only if u want more details u click on the picture, otherwise, u have already seens enough without clicking.
DON”T FOUL YOURSELF!

listen
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listen

any filter can be bypassed. but here we are assuming that holy Jews don’t want to sin and having a filter remind them that the website they clicked is wrong will save many lives.

For everyone
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For everyone

BH

Rabbonim have already clearly stated that one musn’t have unfiltered internet.

Make it unhackable to the best of your ability, and if you ‘fall’ learn from your mistake, and figure out how to fix the hole you found in the filter.

Kesiva Vechasima Tova, be well

to 17
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to 17

i cant believe you would make such a statement?

enough delaying marriage
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enough delaying marriage

The Rebbe called for early marriage. The Rabonim called for early marriage. There should be no delays. That’s the main solution.

This reminds me of the expression...
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This reminds me of the expression...

“Closing the barn doors after the horses have escaped…”

Venishmartem Cloud filter
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Venishmartem Cloud filter

I bought a laptop when I became a teacher. After innocently trying to google images for my worksheets, I was shocked by what came up. I tried putting on google safe search but that didnt help either. Even clicking on harmless websites had disgusting ads with disgusting pictures that were very hard to ignore and with oh so tempting headlines. When I tried to youtube videos that I could show in class, the videos themselves where fine, but the suggested videos on the sidewere complete pritzus. I would not blame anyone who clicked on it. I tried researching filters but… Read more »

Naivety
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Naivety

The only,people that are naive are the ones that think that people should,be strong enough to,control themselves. Famous story in gemara about Rabbi Akiva who thought he couldnt be tempted. So the yetzer hara dressed up as a ______ and went to the top of a tree. When Rabbi akiva saw the person, he hurried to climb to the top of the tree. And there are other stories with others. Are you greater then Rabbi Akiva? Fine maybe you are. Are your,husband and kids,greater than Rabbi Akiva?????????

Naïveté
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Naïveté

Naïveté I don’t think anyone disagrees of the dangers of free internet access; and that a filter, dumb phone, etc., is a proper safeguard in protecting ones self from those dangers. But having established that, it is VERY naive for any Yeshiva or Hanhola to pretend that they can enforce that. The best we can do, is lead by example, and educate their students in a positive and realistic way. (Note: the hanhola should first rid themselves of smartphones, internet, etc., so they are “walking the same walk”, as they advise their students). The same goes for everything else, besides… Read more »

The Yetzer Hora won
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The Yetzer Hora won

WE NEED MOSHIACH!: The way we have become so dependant on this technology, to ban cellphones may be very unpragmatic, and even harmful. Suppose there’s an emergency, and you have no phone?! A generation ago, pay phones were so plentiful that it was almost as easy to get to a pay phone as getting one out of your pocket. Where are they now? – few, far between, and many of them don’t even work! Yes, filters are better than none. However, anyone who OWNS anything with internet access can bypass the filters. Even if they can’t, you can still acess… Read more »

Who saw  it coming?
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Who saw it coming?

The internet, when it rose from being a military/government entity to the public, started innocently. It was going to be an unprecedented, convenient and revolutionary way of accessing information, staying connected, working, and being entertained. It sure was! However, like a computer forensic detective said: “When you see enemy planes, missiles, etc. coming at you – well, you see it and respond to it.” The internet, on the other hand, was really like a “Trojan Horse.” The computer, – a once, innocent calculating tool – now with this new feature became a nightmare for many: addiction, psychological and even physical… Read more »

From a young woman...
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From a young woman...

Filters are helpful but believe me when I say that anyone over the age of about 40 who thinks that they can make something unhackable to someone who grew up with technology and the internet is naive at best, delusional at worst. Reality is that as strong as the yetzer hara is, we have to find our own ways to control ourselves on the internet and boys have to learn this or that will be the least of their problems later. The same way that we do not tell our girls that they should dress tzniusly because men cannot control… Read more »

filter????
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filter????

these boys are old enough to make their own decisions in life and not be treated like a child

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