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    From a board memeber
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    From a board memeber

    As a parent and a board member at a Chabad school I just want to remind people that teachers are people too and deserve to be paid on time and respectfully. This is nearly impossible when parents don’t pay tuition. It is always painful to turn away a child, no question. It’s also painful to tell the staff “we cannot meet payroll this month…again” or tell parents “sorry, we can not afford xyz improvement, because there’s no funds for it.” Guess what, those funds got to come from somewhere.

    and here in our school
    Guest
    and here in our school

    they did the same. i wonder if this is the same school- a family was turned away, a single mother, with no husband in sight, was turned away. the principal was the only stable father figure in huis life.
    now she has him registered for a almost frum school.
    shame on this chabad moisad who turned her away and her son off lubavitch.

    Common Sense
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    Common Sense

    It’s no secret that we are best served by our schools as teachers of our children, not as fundraisers.

    If a family cannot afford tuition (even after all accomodations are made) that family should fundraise to cover their share, it is burdensome and maybe even chutzpah to expect the school to shoulder this responsobility when it should be focusing it’s best talent and effort on teaching our children, not raising fund to cover OTHER’s obligations….

    Sherman
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    Sherman

    Please name the school!!

    so sad
    Guest
    so sad

    That is a really sad situation. My kids are also out of school because we cannot pay tuition. For now, they are all being homeschooled ( they are under bar mitzva age).
    I think this problem solution is to get the really big donors to realize the importance of chinuch. Instead of milion dollars building, mikvaos, luxury diners, the money should go to basic needs, like chinuch.

    Making the Rebbe proud
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    Making the Rebbe proud

    Name & shame the Yeshiva. Didn’t the Rebbe say no child should be turned away because of tuition issues?

    12345678
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    12345678

    to board member,

    rejecting a student for payment does not feed teachers.

    in fact, better a low-paying student than no student. the salary is already set, and will not go down based on low enrollment. every student, no matter how little they pay, helps pay that salary

    Chutzpa!
    Guest
    Chutzpa!

    How dare you complain that your kids were turned away, don’t you know that the administrators of our local schools need the money to do up their second homes in the country?

    A thought from this past parsha
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    A thought from this past parsha

    “Yadaynu lo shafchu es hadam hazeh, v’aynaynu lo ra-oo”

    PARENTS- RAISE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!
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    PARENTS- RAISE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!

    I work in a big school that was nearly announced bankrupt this year as a result of selfish parents not paying money. i call these parents selfish becuase all they did when they heard that the school could not manage financially, was blame those on top for not raising sufficient funds!!!!! Then those very same parents went on decent vacations while those running the school stayed in the city drowning in financial debts. So dear women, in this school your carefully planned out financial scheme would have been accepted but for all those others out there – realise you are… Read more »

    shocking!
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    shocking!

    I read this article with disbelief!Here are Jewish children who need an education but cannot afford the exorbitant fees during these difficult financial times.And yet week after week we hear and see pics of these grand dinners taking place spending thousands of $$$ for food etc.FOOD for goodness sake versus a childs jewish education??I am speechless beyond words.

    nina
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    nina

    most yeshivos send out fundraising letters stating that thy accept kids that cannot afford to pay.
    practice what you preach!

    rivky
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    rivky

    to #5
    the problem is the people who are running the schools – the administration are grossly overpaid, and paid on time. then they say there is no money for the teachers.
    another thing – I remember hearting that the Rebbe felt that a nice mikvah would make people visit when they have to.

    My best wishes for ksiva v’chasima tovah to all of klal yisroel, and nobody should have any more problems with parnosso.

    Its Alright
    Guest
    Its Alright

    I would not want my children being educated by such people. The people who turn these kids away are usually the ones who end up ruining them. So be thankful your kids dont need to be educated by such people.

    um..
    Guest
    um..

    they couldnt get 2 more kids in?????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    Guess what?
    Guest
    Guess what?

    Don’t these parents know that we Lubavitcher chassidim are a very wealthy community?

    Aren’t they familiar with the Rebbe’s many sichos that demand that they pay ivy-league-university-type tuition to poorly run mosdos for a basic jewish education?

    aren’t they ashamed to suggest that the mossad find a way to accommodate the existing student body?

    don’t they feel any obligation to prop up a mossad that can’t be bothered with fundraising?

    Oy! What we’re coming to!

    stop
    Guest
    stop

    everyone if you have nothing nice to say dont say anything at all instead of saying parents should find the money or scream at the yeshiva say chutzpa for turning them away kal yisroel come and join together and maybe help the families that need money

    What nerve!!!!!
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    What nerve!!!!!

    How can a school turn down a Jewish child? Do these people have no brain, let alone a heart?!

    Education is the most important part of our life. What are we without Torah and learning? Baneinu Arevim Baadeinu, we called out at Matan Torah. Hashem’s reply was not, “well, only if they pay tuition.”

    Shameful!

    To Save a Neshama
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    To Save a Neshama

    In out of town schools, often the only frum school is Chabad. Sometimes there is also a very liberal Modern Orthodox School. If Chabad turns a child away for purely financial reasons, that neshama may really be lost. I know of children transferred from Chabad to either extremely modern schools, conservative schools, or public schools. As adults, these children are now totally non-observant. Don’t forget that if a child is rejected for financial reasons, that child feels shameful, deserved or not. Yes, teachers have to get paid. But other ways have to be found other than rejecting children through no… Read more »

    To the father/mother: Give me a break
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    To the father/mother: Give me a break

    A yeshiva is not a community or public school. In most communities there are enough other options so your child will not be without a standard frum education Why is it the yeshiva’s problem that you can’t pay and why does their principal or fundraiser have to spend extra hours for your child’s education? The mitzva of chinuch was given to the parents, not the teacher or school. If you can’t come up with the full amount, go fundraise. Why does the school need to do it for you?! Signed, A parent who pays full tuition (and is fed up… Read more »

    Aaron
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    Aaron

    BS:D Better to do something constructive,mysa hu haikur, I pledge $100.00 for their tuition if they are allowed in, tell me where to send it

    Helpless
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    Helpless

    Where is OORAH, does this not qualify for assistance

    i hear you
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    i hear you

    I Hear you. i am in a similar situation for which i asked for a discount. however the way i viewed it is. Its not the board’s responsibility to give discounts to parents. it is the parents responsibilty to ask for charity if need be. there was always times when children whose parents couldnt afford tuition that the children didnt go to school. there are many shtetle stories of this. in addition from your own story the school allowed your children to continue in school with $9000 not being paid from last year. administrators have a hard enough time rasing… Read more »

    Meir
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    Meir

    BS:D
    to # 20 maybe you have a point little rich compassionate girl

    Negative comments
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    Negative comments

    All those with negative comments obviously have no experience with poverty. I’m almost wishing you would – if for just a short while – so you could have an educated opinion.

    I grew up in a home, where even though I was the oldest kid in the family, I only wore hand-me-downs. But we were happy and content.

    When the Yeshiva didn’t accept me into school, my parents got me enrolled into a public high school for boys. Suddenly I was accepted in the Yeshiva! Because Lubavitchers only help those who are not in the system.

    Try it.

    move
    Guest
    move

    move out of NYC. Find somewhere affordable to live. I did it, you can too.

    to #22
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    to #22

    Who need Oorah’s favors if we have Tzach (Lubavitch Youth Organization) who have a special tuition fund that helps over 800 children every year

    comment on #20
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    comment on #20

    How fortunate you are that you can afford to pay full tuition. Do you know that many people can barely put bread on the table, even though they are working hard, and paying what little tuition they can. Many people have been blessed with 7, 8, 9 or more children. They are trying. But if you earn less than $1,000/ month, and you have to pay rent, and buy food, diapers, etc., how can you pay $1,000/month/per child times 8? Please try to have a little compassion for your less fortunate brothers and sisters!

    #20
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    #20

    your comments whilst you may think are well meaning are totally out of touch with what parents are going through.Have a heart.I just hope you never have to suffer what some are going through right now that have the shame and heartache to not be able to afford the basics.

    Chabad family in Litvish school
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    Chabad family in Litvish school

    I too am a mother who was turned away from a Chabad school for the inability to pay. I am a single mother of MANY children with VERY unusual circumstances, I have a community of support behind me for so much of what I have been through, but recently when the Chabad school was asked if they would take my child (to help build their class size) the Admins answer was “Why her, then I d have to help everyone!!” Meanwhile the local Litvish school has opened its doors and hearts to ALL my children, having educated ALL of my… Read more »

    Mom in Crown Heights
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    Mom in Crown Heights

    This letter actually made me cry.
    Thank g-d, with much hard work, my kids are in our local school, but thats just barely making it.
    I only shudder to think, what would I do if I were in this parent’s situation?
    This is a tragedy and the community should not tolerate it.
    How can a yidishe child not go to yeshiva???
    Shocking, to say the least…

    Levi
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    Levi

    I have to say that I agree with 20.

    How can a yeshiva function if people won’t pay tuition?

    When anyone says anything about the yeshivas, the first complaint is “They don’t pay the teachers on time.”
    How can they pay if everyone will come for free?

    I say, let the parents raise the funds through tzedaka, organizations, gemachs, etc.

    TACHLIS
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    TACHLIS

    Tachlis was said above:
    If administrators gave discounts etc to everyone who said they have financial trouble there would be no school and no teachers etc….

    Hmmm.....
    Guest
    Hmmm.....

    9,000 dollar balance… Is that from one year of not paying or more than that?
    If you havent paid in more than a year, maybe I can see the issue with the school…

    To 1, 3 & 10 Totally off base!!!
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    To 1, 3 & 10 Totally off base!!!

    1. Since the establishment of yeshivos, a primary role of the menahalim was FUNDRAISING, appreciating the fact that Torah education is the most important thing, and should be given to all regardless of their ability to pay. The Friediker Rebbe writes (brought in Hayom Yom) that supporting Torah Lerners is the best way to guarantee ישועה והצלה for one’s children. Financially upholding the yeshivos was NEVER the parents responsibility. Obviously if a parent happens to have the means, he or she would be foolish (at the very least) not to support THEIR OWN yeshivos (עניי עירך קודמין). 2. As long… Read more »

    Food for thought
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    Food for thought

    This is a very sad situation, but I would like to show the side that the parent does not see. (Not necessarily this particular parent, but parents in general.) A close family member of mine runs a Yeshiva. She does not get paid, she spends countless stressful hours running this school, when she herself has NO children in the school. Almost every parent asks for discounts, and many ask to go for free. For many years she allowed this – but a school cannot survive without money. Bills must get payed, teachers need money to feed their own families… she… Read more »

    Tired of the same complaints...
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    Tired of the same complaints...

    I am so tired of the parents who are always complaining about the high cost of tuition, then they go off to their summer homes for the summer in their nice cars. If you can afford that, you should be able to afford the tuition.
    Not saying that the person who wrote this letter is one of them, but its just something that always bothered me…

    Horrified!!!!!
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    Horrified!!!!!

    Im horrified!
    A yiddishe neshama not in yeshiva!!!
    what would hte Rebbe say!!!!!

    He would never allow this!

    what has happened to us? I really cant believe it.

    disagree
    Guest
    disagree

    most people are saying that as a lubavitch school it isnt right and its disgusting etc. but if you thought about it for a bit 1- why should everybody else who are also trying to scrape up money, but still find a way, have to pay more because the yeshivos arent getting money from certain people. 2- if they gave everyone discounts or even let them in for free, they would need to close down, due to lack of money. they have a lot of teachers they need to pay.

    To #26
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    To #26

    Did you know that NYC has the LOWEST tuition for Yeshivos than anywhere else in the world? (Other than Israel)

    I just can’t stand people that come here and make comments like “get out of Crown Heights” or “Move out of NY”

    Crown Heights is no quiet country life, nor is it a high class suburban neighborhood, but it is HERE where the Rebbe chose to dwell.

    It’s hard to find parking, it’s hard to buy a house, the rent is too da#n high, and some people are mean and nosy… but Chabad flourishes here.

    Have a nice day.

    how can u judge?
    Guest
    how can u judge?

    All of you dont judge the parents of these kids
    its not nice to judge if you dont know their situation

    to  no. 30
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    to no. 30

    nice! which school?

    to #40
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    to #40

    Yes, but everything else is much higher – including taxes, rent, services, utilities etc etc.

    “Chabad flourishes here” – that’s all a matter of perspective I guess….

    8 kids, 7 in school
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    8 kids, 7 in school

    oldest is 13. they asked for tuition, $55,870 for all the kids.
    husband earns $52,000 a year.
    do the math

    OMG
    Guest
    OMG

    I cant believe what I am reading, is this really true?
    I always thought our chabad schools accept everyone…noone turned away for lack of funds.

    also my 2 girls
    Guest
    also my 2 girls

    hello COLLIVE also my 2 girls going to chabad school in crown heights and they Rejected for Tuition!!! i don’t know what to do!!! need god help!!!

    #12
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    #12

    #12 Great point: yeshivas tell their Gvirim that they fundrais for kids that their family’s cannot afford tuition. then they wont let you in without tuition

    #46
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    #46

    I wish I could help? how much do you need ? would be glad to contribute 100$ a month…

    To the rest, its a sad but present reality… but this calls for responsibility… older siblings should be pushed to chip in… I have helped pay my younger sisters tuition as well.

    The solution is fund raising!!!
    Guest
    The solution is fund raising!!!

    You can’t milk a dead cow! the schools are going after the parents as if they have all the necessary funds to run the school system in a perfect world of private schools if parents wants their children to receive quality education they have to pay and if they don’t have the money they have to send theur children to a public school in the frum world there is no alternative but to send your kids to a frum school which means the system will not give you any alternatives the chabad school pride themselves on kiruv work and the… Read more »

    Hershel Moss, Crown Heights, Brooklyn Resident
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    Hershel Moss, Crown Heights, Brooklyn Resident

    What about a Mas HaChinuch (education tax)?

    Why hasn’t anyone mentioned that, and the COMMUNAL obligation of education, which goes way back to the days of Yeshua Ben Gamla!

    “Originally, it was customary for the community to impose taxes to pay for the education of all the children, whether their parents were rich or poor. However, at present it has become customary for each parent to pay for his own child’s education. However, if he lacks the financial means to do so, the community is obligated to accept this burden.”

    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/910974/jewish/Chapter-Two.htm

    456
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    456

    it’s not like they werent going to pay eny way

    not in all schools
    Guest
    not in all schools

    IN BIES RIVKAH MONTREAL THEY ACCEPT EVERYONE EVEN PEOPLE WHO CAN’T PAY AND THEY MANIGE TO PAY THE TEACHERS TOO

    have rachmonos
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    have rachmonos

    If a Chabad mosad wont have rachmonos on a family and would turn a child away, that chabad mosad might as well close down and stop using the name Chabad…it is not the Rebbe’s shita! The Rebbe said to accept all children regardless of ability to pay and Hashem would respond also in a way above nature to finance that school. When the adminstration demonstrate lack of faith and want to force parents to pay all the school expenses, what can that school expect as a result? no wonder teachers are not getting paid! when the attitudes are all wrong,… Read more »

    wow
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    wow

    wow i cant believe this is hapening.

    smiley faces
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    smiley faces

    OK just for the record we dont need to pay for any yeshiva you can learn just as good online.u get more educated reading the comments then te article. 2nd if yeshivas can run without money they can accept a kid with no money cuz’ the Jews are a people without money and the nonJews are a money woithout a people (they dont know what to do with it) lots of students r willing to teach for free like myself so their is ur answer make ur own yeshiva or go to the RAP in Israel R Avtzon will take… Read more »

    been on both sides!
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    been on both sides!

    i have worked in administration for 2 mosdos in our community. i am also a parent struggling to make ends meet. after being on both sides i can totally understand what is happening. yes schools are struggling to pay the teachers, but they are not “living with the times” the economy is terrible- i have lost my job b/c of budget cuts .i think this family has worked out a good plan and for the school to reject them is unbelievable- this would never happen if the Rebbe was here! the rebbe has said that schools should fundraise so that… Read more »

    Hershel Moss, Crown Heights
    Guest
    Hershel Moss, Crown Heights

    If you are interested in a Yeshiva which does things the “old-fashioned” way…

    Please call me for more details: 718.308.7458

    Yeshiva Chok l’Yisroel

    Just a point
    Guest
    Just a point

    I understand if parents have no money fair enough, but as soon as you ask the parent to help raise money for tuition e.g get names for the broucher when the school have the fund raising dinner, or sell raffel tickets etc. or help out for a fund raising evening.The answer is they give NO TIME, Just tell me dear parents where should management find the money. It pains us just as much to turn a child away as it is for you. So next time you are asked to help with fund raising think twice before saying no.

    As you could see this is a hot issue
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    As you could see this is a hot issue

    I first want to start by saying For more then 6 years I have been paying full tuition ($75,000+ a year in total for all my children). B”H I am doing pretty good. But I must say before that I did ask for some sort of subsidy (I was offering Over three thousand per child). I must say the people made me feel like a beggar and worse. These same people now come to me for lone’s and they never pay back on time or they don’t pay back at all depending on the school. There are cases that people… Read more »

    look in shulchan aruch
    Guest
    look in shulchan aruch

    hilchos talmud torah ch 1 seif 3

    to # 20
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    to # 20

    try living on my salary and see if you can pay full tuition
    even if evry body paid full tuition fund raising will be need

    DESPICABLE.
    Guest
    DESPICABLE.

    Mosdos are responsible to hire fundraisers. Period.

    Home schooling is best education
    Guest
    Home schooling is best education

    it is proven times upon time

    aniyei ircha kodem!
    Guest
    aniyei ircha kodem!

    It is against halacha to raise funds for shlichus purposes when children within the community are not being taken care of. These children are the responsibility of the community!

    thats terreble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Guest
    thats terreble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THIS FAMILY REALLY NEEDS HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Right #50...
    Guest
    Right #50...

    THE COMMUNITY IS OBLIGATED…

    have been on a board of such a moised
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    have been on a board of such a moised

    We aganozied on continuing with the rejecting familes with large balances from previous years. Fact is the vast majority of parents came up with money within a few hours so that their children can be in class. We were able to make two payrolls each time this was done (and still remained behind). We did lose a small amount of students which still haunts me but not loosing the rebbis I hope makes up for it. You are talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that only became available under threat of rejecting children. Where are those parents taking responsibility… Read more »

    horrified at your chutzpa
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    horrified at your chutzpa

    Dear no.1 boardmember. You are a boardmember because either you have to go out and raise money or you get people to raise money and if you cant do that you do not deserve to be a boardmember If you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen. It is common knowledge that schools should not exist on tuition.

    who is it
    Guest
    who is it

    Why is the name of the mossad being held back. Why cover for a mossad who does such a venomous act. Teach your children ahavas yisroel…HA ha. Could cry

    I Work in a moisad - advice to parents
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    I Work in a moisad - advice to parents

    First thing is accept responibility for paying. Say that you know that it is your responsibility. Then make genuine efforts to pay as much as possible. Call once in a while with an idea for a supporter, potential grant, discount on paper goods. Offer to help shovel on a snowy day. I have seen parents like that. I have never seen any of the parents ever get rejected.

    If you are a parent that tried this way, please post your experience.

    Meir
    Guest
    Meir

    BS:D my gosh if all the criticizers would give a hundred bucks there would be about 7 grand in the pot already.

    FUNDRAISING.
    Guest
    FUNDRAISING.

    The Mosdos just dropped their job of fundraising and just put a gun to our heads.

    SHAME SHAME ON OUR MOSDOS!!!

    I agree with no.69  "who is it?
    Guest
    I agree with no.69 "who is it?

    Let us know who this is. If it was done to this family others were treated badly as well. Lets get this person out of our moisad

    I am so grateful
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    I am so grateful

    Our financial bubble burst when we only had a couple of children in school so it wasn’t so terrible. Until then we were paying very high tuition. Then I had to go to the administrator and show him in black and white how bad things were. He gave us a break but now my problem is marrying them off. at least I don’t have to pay thousands for a 5th rate education. I’m sorry for these parents but the worst thing is they aren’t the only ones. look around you don’t know who is struggling, we look like we are… Read more »

    New York City $12,000
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    New York City $12,000

    New York City pays $12,000 per public school student per year on average. The $12,000 is primarily financed through OUR property tax (even if you rent, you pay to landlord == landlord uses your rent to pay == property tax for the home YOU live in). We (and our fundraisers) suffer and pay full tuition. Untill 2003 New York State (any state) was not allowed to pay any money to private/religious schools (by court order). In 2003 the law changed that NYS is allowed use our property tax to hand grants to parents to use for tuition. Many states began… Read more »

    make a website
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    make a website

    it has come a time to shame the people responsible I got a whooping 20,000 dollar bill for two kids in school when I started to tell them I would pay it They started yelling at me like I was a hoodlum we have to make this public! If they can’t run a mosad go into a new business yes that is what they told me its a business!!!!!!!!!!!

    right on no. 76
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    right on no. 76

    Sadly no. 76 you are right. One of the administrators { to the world thought of as a chassidishe yid and gezsha no less} told the father when he said that it is hard for him to pay full high price for ka’h all his children. This so to speak “chasiidishe yid’ administrator told him “why did you have so many children” shocking and chilling . You are right no. 76. They look at it as a business. First all the profits go into their pockets and leave teachers with unpaid salaries, because they cant be bothered to raise money… Read more »

    if you want things to change...
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    if you want things to change...

    Then change them. The menahel of a mosod is not going to resign because there are people who can’t pay, nor is he going to work for free. People are always free to take some of the suggestions made on more than one website about this matter and try to provide chinuch for their own children. People might log on and vent against the hanhalla but at the end of the day, they don’t really care about the people posting here and are probably blissfully unaware of the discussion on this site. If a person wants to change something, take… Read more »

    just wondering
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    just wondering

    Did the family try going to gmachs? Sometimes its easier to pay back a gmach or a few gmachs than paying the school.

    Toronto
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    Toronto

    Try Toronto Mesivta were tuition is $20,000 a year.

    For $13,000 you get just classes, no food or dormitory,

    Most of the Bochrim are starving because their parents could not afford the meal plan.

    you don't know what goes on behind the scenes
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    you don't know what goes on behind the scenes

    As someone who sees the “other side” when it comes to administration, I can say that most people have absolutely NO IDEA how much it takes to run a school. There’s no reason to try and explain it because unless you’ve been there, you can’t truly understand. It’s so easy to say that the school should fundraise, etc…of course schools do. And even with that, they come out hundreds of thousands of dollars short. Many of these families complain that they have no money, but then live way beyond their means. It seems that most ppl feel that tuition comes… Read more »

    The Test
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    The Test

    It’s actually quite simple. All commentators who claim Chinuch is their number 1 priority should take this test: 1) Does 100% of you tzedokoh go to a moised involved in core Chinuch? Think about all the very worthy causes that are doing phenomenal work and realize that most people fail this test. 2) Are you spending the bare minimum on house(s)/rent, car(s), vacation(s), esrog, tefillin and mezuzos, the best hechsher in town, guest(s), shmura motzah, shietel(s), hat(s), wedding(s), bar mitzvah(s), summer camp(s), birthday parties, take out food / restaurants. Take a look around your community and realize that most fail… Read more »

    maybe we need new ideas
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    maybe we need new ideas

    maybe both parties should seek out third options. what about working for the school to pay off your tuition balance in those six months? it’s hard of course, but a school can only run on money as well. think of all the teachers who haven’t been paid for months because there are dozens of parents doing this to the school. i’m not saying your kids shouldn’t be let in but perhaps finding a job within your school will help offset something?

    weddings, barmitzvahs, summer homes.
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    weddings, barmitzvahs, summer homes.

    what comes first? chinuch.
    if you have made decent simchas and go away in the summer – this shows that chinuch is not the priority. that is that. chinuch comes first. cant afford tuition, stay home for pesach, stay home for the summer, make modest simchas and then you will have earned your child a seat in a school. priorities.

    Don't Judge - especially on Chodesh Elul
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    Don't Judge - especially on Chodesh Elul

    Ladies and Gentleman – there is many lessons to learn here. The number one lesson in the Torah is never to judge – Hahem gave us eyes, ears and mouth to be used for mitzvot and not judging. Most comments here are words of judgement – and we know only hashem has the power to judge. Schools are not profitable places. Teaches barely makes a living and tutions are often exorbitant high since most parents don’t pay. Every school has the Big Donors who support majorty of the programs – but it is not enough. There is not simple solution… Read more »

    To Just Wondering
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    To Just Wondering

    You must be young. Most of these people dont have a penny to their name and they owe more money then they can handle. It has come to a point where people have to get together and not rely on any of these Hanholah that have the Chutzpah to ask for such high tuition. These people have already mortgaged their houses (and maybe waist-ed some of this money on shetusim, but don’t forget where these people went to school and got educated). Or maybe they dont own a house. As a group you could do a lot better. And if… Read more »

    mmb
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    mmb

    i would also like to donate at least $100 payable to the mosad towards tuition.

    hows this idea
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    hows this idea

    instead of having everyone pay for yesheva till they have nothing left why dont we do a community tax were everyone pays what they can for the upkeep of the yeshevas and if not they will not be allowed in the school. wether you have kids in school now or used to have, you pay the “tax” so the yeshvas can run

    to # 20
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    to # 20

    WOW!!! you know what if you have the money to pay full tuition why dont you help other people in our community who cant??
    your comment totally shocked me!!!!!!!!!!

    f.s.
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    f.s.

    we should learn chessed from the exemplary community of Williamsburg. In matters of tuition they have a system whereby every parent pays minimally and the yeshivos/community supplements the rest. (Of course if parents can afford to pay more, they do) . It is self understood that a private school cannot function on tuition alone and so it is the obligation of the school/community to uphold a yeshiva as a service to the people of the community. With such a compassionate mindset ” the yeshivah is here to serve you, the people of the community ” parents can focus on their… Read more »

    I'M THE MOTHER WHO WROTE THIS EMAIL
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    I'M THE MOTHER WHO WROTE THIS EMAIL

    . A heartfelt thanks to all those who took my posting to heart as well as those who wish to help us with the tuition fees. At this point I’m not even sure that this moisad deserves my gems – who in the opinion of their past teachers each have exemplary midos and excel scholastically, as well as being very well liked and looked up to by their classmates – as quoted by their teachers and principal “a perfect dugma chaya for their pears” To be quiet honest, I feel traumatized by this fiasco and I’m not even sure where… Read more »

    upset for the mother
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    upset for the mother

    why does all the parnets who have mesiras nefesh for there kids give up everything have to suffer hats not fair its the other parnets who get discounts and still get holidays cleaners pizza i feel for you hang in ther it will turn out good in the end

    sad
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    sad

    I feel sad!This is not the first that i have heard of this over the years infact in the past my children were also rejected from schools or not allowed in until school was in session a week or two.It caused me severe pain and shame!But we stood up proud BH!Now my grandchildren are home bec the admin in a chabad school wouldnt accept their offer of a fee twice as much as our children earn????????Worse yet the admin a young bussiness man bh with good personal parnosso and a couple of very young children told our children {shluchim no… Read more »

    Couldn't Agree More
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    Couldn't Agree More

    Unfortunately I have first hand knowledge of what the author of the article has shared with all of us. My sister (who is not frum) wanted to put her daughter into the local Jewish day school but could not afford to do so and was told either she comes up with the tuition or her daughter can’t attend. My mother ended up paying the tuition even though she herself lost her job two years ago and is struggling. Imagine, turning away someone who is looking to come closer to yiddishkeit! In my humble opinion this is not what the Rebbe… Read more »

    TO SET IT STRAIGHT FOR BOTH SIDES
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    TO SET IT STRAIGHT FOR BOTH SIDES

    I come from a family who in the past, gave a lot of money to many schools in our community. My dad always gave to every fund-raiser who walked through the door. My dad had some very good years in business, and sponsored salaries for a couple of our local Yeshivas. The schools always expressed gratitude for my dads’ kindness. HERE IS THE PUNCHLINE. The past couple of years have been very tuff on my dad. He was forced to lay off of many of his workers, and had to close down a couple of his offices. He came to… Read more »

    i too was in this situation
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    i too was in this situation

    i too was in this situation several years ago, and they turned down 4 children. this landed me in a non chabad school. I have to thank the chabad hanholo for throwing us out, because B”H my children who are grown now, had an umbelievable education from non Chabad. B”H they were accepted in the best yeshivas and seminaries of Chabad.. when they were older. And it made no impact on their shidduchim either. If a Chabad school turns you down, do not consider this the Rebbes Moised, because the Rebbe would not have turned you down!!!!!!!!!!!

    TUITION!
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    TUITION!

    Since when is tuition supposed to cover all of the school expenses? Parents with KA”H large families who are trying to stay afloat cannot go fundraising to cover tuition for their children, be it the girls schools or the boys schools. Very choshuvah people like the Rashag A”H and Rabbi Weinberg zol zein gezunt did very heavy fundraising and helped keep the tuition rate realistic. Now we put up the few young “gevirim” of the new Lubavitch with 2.3 children and summer homes etc. and they are supposed to tell the average family what the tuition amount should be. Did… Read more »

    M.Beenstock
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    M.Beenstock

    My father became a Lubavitcher. One of the reasons is b.c. the ubavitcher Yeshiva did not ask for money but the others did. If you look around the internet you will see many news pieces on Lubavitch News sites, of shluchim opening new buildings costing in the Millions! Why cant we have the same concern for our own Moisdois? Making people frum, is not the exclusive domain to Frier people, but also frum people (Lehoir, the Zohar says that when Moshiach comes, even Tzadikim will do Teshuva!), besides, if child does not go to school, unless the parents is capable… Read more »

    Scared to have kids
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    Scared to have kids

    Giving a child a yeshiva education is expensive.
    My husband and I are currently experiencing fertility problems.
    I want children, but the thought of having to pay $10 000+ per year per child for school fees, scares me so much that I am unsure if I should seek medical help now or wait a few more years so that my chances of having many children have diminished and so I am able to save more money to pay for their chinuch.

    Where are the Rabbanim?
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    Where are the Rabbanim?

    If someone would make a petition asking the Rabbanim to get involved and set up this community tax which I think is a fantastic idea, it would solve many problems. #1. would save parents from the embarrasment of having to be treated like nebachs for not being able to pay full school fees. #2 Those who can afford more would be likely to pay (as they will not assosiate it with a particular school and therby judge whether they deem it fitting to receive their money.) #3 It would save the children shame too. #4 Parents and board of the… Read more »

    Don't Judge - especially on Chodesh Elul but come together and save the children
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    Don't Judge - especially on Chodesh Elul but come together and save the children

    A Jewish school should never turn away children. The Jewish community should always come together to help them stay in school. There are more families in need than families who are able to give – especially on chabad schools. I personally don’t know the who story from both sides. I understand the mother’s side and her willing to come up with a payment plan – which is a huge effort on her part and all parents should learn from her actions. However surely if it is a Jewish school – on top of it a Chabad school there must be… Read more »

    why dont....
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    why dont....

    The mosdos should open their books to all..and for all to see what is being skimmed of the top from those in charge

    true story
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    true story

    When my son was refused entry to one of our yeshivos, I asked the rosh yeshiva to please put the refusal down on paper and the reason why (I couldnt pay the astronomical fees). I said it would make the Rebbe proud to see one of his mosdos turn away a bochur who wanted to learn due to his parent not being able to pay. Bottom line..the rosh yeshiva said to his cohorts, ‘that Mrs. …. is one tough woman’. My son went to the yeshiva and did very well. this rosh yeshiva gave my son the strongest recommendation for… Read more »

    to no. 81 and 84
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    to no. 81 and 84

    Apparently you do not know what it is like to really not have the money. An administrator has to be able to put himself into the shoes of the less fortunate person. Apparently HE is the one too busy buying all his kids homes and visisting all his summer homes. As to the woman who wrote the e mail you probably are right. This mossad with their lack of ahavas yisroel does not deserve your gems. My last child just finished one of our CH mosdos . And the first thought that came to my mind was “boruch shepitrani” from… Read more »

    I'M THE MOTHER WHO WROTE THIS EMAIL
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    I'M THE MOTHER WHO WROTE THIS EMAIL

    Yes, the children do live in the same city as the school- not in CH, and there is more to the story of why we haven’t been able to pay the past tuition balance – the Yeshiva is very well aware of it. We have been turning over the world just to survive the daily grind. To be clear about what the school wanted – They required a $500 registration fee as well as $770 for the building fund which is requested to begin any conversation regarding tuition and which we already gave. In addition to that, they want $3000… Read more »

    How disgusting to turn people into beggars
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    How disgusting to turn people into beggars

    How dare you demand that “families have to go out and fundraise” for tuition money. What are they supposed to do, go begging door to door? This is on top of already working a full time job (sometimes more than one job) just to make ends meet!

    What did the Rebbe say?
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    What did the Rebbe say?

    The Rebbe said in many Sichos that the Admin of Yeshivas must go out and fundraise. And that they cannot expect the parents/students to cover the whole costs. I have been (and still am) on both sides of the deal. I can understnd what the Rebbe said very clearly. If I call up a rich man and say we need money for the moisad, he may or may not give. But if I call as a parent looking for help, the chances are MUCH less of getting anything. The same two people talking to each other – it works much… Read more »

    A fromer board member
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    A fromer board member

    To #107
    You are absolutly wrong. I have seen this in action. When children were rejected, fellow community members stood and pitched in to help the families. When the moised went to these same people, got down on their hands and knees and begged, thhey basically said “we don’t have the money to help”.

    This too is what causes Moisdes to reject children. What other recourse do they have?

    The best way to see who is who is to force moisdes to disclose how much they are fundraising per student they service.

    registration fee?
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    registration fee?

    Once upon a time there was no such thing as a “Registration fee” . This fee was made up as a way to extract more tuition from parents. What exactly doet the $500 fee cover?…if it’s a secretary writing up paperwork for a students enrollment, then it should be at most $50…not $500. This fee is total nonsense and adds extra pressure to the finances one must deal with for tuition costs.

    Schools are run by people and people have faults
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    Schools are run by people and people have faults

    Outside of Crown Heights, the only frum school in town turned away a non-chabad family over the disagreement that a private scholarship fund payment for tuition should count somewhat towards the discount. Stubborn parents deprived their kids of a normal year in school (i am not sure of the level of education there as I don’t have young children) But a stubborn administration had no problem sleeping at night with these kids not going to school. Always crying for lack of money they turned away $10-$12K that would not require any additional expenses on the school’s part. Who won? Satan!… Read more »

     wwowww!
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    wwowww!

    would any mosad have the chutspa do do this before ג’ תמוז????

    Young parent and teacher
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    Young parent and teacher

    Firstly it is wonderful to discuss these pressing topics in an open forum such as this. When reading through the comments I can sense much bitterness in the process of sacrificing for (or being turned from) Jewish education. Many have made school administration out to be the villains, but I think that view is flawed. I grew up in a school that had an open-door policy they took everyone in and felt that a Jewish education is a necessity for all Jewish children rich or poor. Many parents appreciated the sensitivity and relief of not being pressed for money they… Read more »

     A real busha to Chabad Mosdas!
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    A real busha to Chabad Mosdas!

    It is a very unfortunate that children are turned away from a chassidishe chinuch because of thier parents finiancial diffuclties. Of course there are exception where parents try to get away from paying tuition and spend money on having luxury cars or second homes etc. This can be checked out by each case. If a family truely doesn’t have money to put bread on their table etc. the schools have to take that in account and do whatever they can to come up with how to help the parents. This problem is all over but very unfortunely happens more in… Read more »

    tuition
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    tuition

    to #108
    in my opinion this is called terrorism. The school put the parents on so much pressure just to see how the results will be. If the school get the money: very good. If the school don’t get it: poor kid!!!

    # 103: I really liked your idea. Parents: if the school don’t take your children ask them for a letter explaining why, and say to the school you are taking this letter to the Ohel.

    to 7
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    to 7

    actually as you read the story, the kids end up getting in.
    how did that happen?
    maybe the parents turned around and paid….

      to the mom-
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    to the mom-

    how did you get a $500 registration? for us they asked $300 for each kid.
    imagine the families that have 7 kids! 7 kids. thats $2100 just on registration!
    are your kids in school yet?

    To 98
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    To 98

    Just to clarify, I did not become a Lubavitcher because the Yeshivos were free!. However my parents were surprised that when I went to learn in Kfar Chabad in the 70’s, there were no fees, wereas in my previous Livishe Yeshiva the fees were quite high. What I will say is that it seams that the tables have now turned. I have a relative who is an administrator in a large Litvishe Yeshiva in Europe, he asks me often if I know someone from my city who is trying to get a big reduction in fees. What car(s) does he… Read more »

    sad sad
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    sad sad

    To all those who comment negatively on the parent, 1) what would the rebbe say? 2) a school can be tough and still treat people like mentshen 3)better to be taken advantage of by 100 parents (and we know there are those who do take advantage) then CH”V loose or hurt the feelings of 1who is strugeling. 3) Every school (take a pick) in the world NEEDS a fundraising mechanisim, or they would be broke. (check YU, Prinston v’chulu To the parents, shame on you if you can afford to pay and dont. Best thing, send them to public school,… Read more »

    Forget about this
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    Forget about this

    Move to the suburbs and send your kids to a good public school – then give the money for tuition to a private tutor for your kids Chinuch

    A few thoughts
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    A few thoughts

    1. I pass test #82
    2. Author, please ask your mashpia/rav what to do
    3. Take the menahel to bais din
    4. All the problems are caused by the adults who dont care about others. This includes those parents who could pay more and dont. It also includes those menahels who live in royal luxury.
    5. I will have you in mind when I say tillim

    parents
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    parents

    you find money for your morgage/rent/food/clothing for your kids….tuition is just as important…..you dont pay, rebbis dont get paid-dont expect schooling for free! open up your own free school if thats what you think you should be getting…see how you surive….

    119
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    119

    I like, the best idea so far.

    Fundraisers, Fundraisers, Fundraisers
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    Fundraisers, Fundraisers, Fundraisers

    How many fundraisers do the schools have? In the good ole days the Lubavitcher Yeshiva that I knew had a bunch of very good and chassidishe people doing fundraising for the Yeshiva. Such as Rashag, Rabbi Weinberg, Rabbi Tenenbaum (each summer), Rabbi Teleshevsky. and I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a few more fundraisers.

    How many fundraisers do the Yeshivas and Girls schools have nowadays?

    insane
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    insane

    i cant believe a moisad who deals with chinuch of children would do such a thing
    you should publish their name and the person responsible

    to #120
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    to #120

    1) beis din? din torah? that’s the biggest fraud now days!
    i can name you dozens of din torahs where the rabbonim were slanted to one side, dozens of din torahs where the losing side ignored the psak and the rabbonim do nothing to enforce it.

    2) this family has no money. remember? how can they afford the costs of a din torah and a toien

    To #121
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    To #121

    You dont get it. there is manageable tution and not manageable tuition. All the things you mention are normal family needs.

    s.b.s
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    s.b.s

    The yeshivos get grants from the government for each child who qualifies – so the yeshiva does make $ in this way. What they are asking of these needy parents is to pay in addition to what they already get from the govt.. It is still not enough you say – that’s where the fundraisers come in. Are they doing their job? obviously not well enough. Where are they? What are they doing? Replace them if need be. Are the administrators subject to the same rules as the common parents? Do they pay full tuition for every one of their… Read more »

    L.M
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    L.M

    To #20
    Kol a coved that you can pay full tuition. Don’t you think the rest of us would like too also?
    What about us bal tshuva who did the mitzvah and B.H. bli iyn hara had an army of kids , have NEVER taken a vacation in 20 years, no maid, etc, etc. Do you think we like meeting with the tuition board and being humilated??

    Put yourself in our shoes for a minute…………

    thats disgusting....
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    thats disgusting....

    their are so many people who dont have food to eat and clothes to wear, and these kind of yeshivas are just making it harder! kids staying home means parents staying home to watch their kids which means parents cant go to work which means the family has even less money then before!

    Let them eat cake!!!
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    Let them eat cake!!!

    While both sides might be right both sides need to be reasonable. Unfortunately, the schools (for the most part) are unreasonable and are beeing ver stuborn about the tuition. there are many people who simply can’t afford their demnds. what are they supposed to do. Some of these administrators cannot relate to the people who are struggling since they themselves live quite a lavish and comfotable life. “Let them eat cake” is what comes to mind when looking at the situation. Turning away kids because of tuition is extreme and is totally against the will of the Rebbe. The achrayus… Read more »

    To #98 - M. Beenstock
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    To #98 - M. Beenstock

    Let me share a famous story with you, the writer of this op-ed, and the rest of the readers and commenters here: The details of the story escape me now, but back in the days of the Shtetl there was a family who was in tremendous poverty and barely had food on the table. This story occurred during a particularly harsh winter. Yet what bothered the father of this family the most was that he could no longer afford to pay for a Melamed for his son. It happened to be that the father was in Shul that day, and… Read more »

    unity
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    unity

    please note its time for all major orthodox jewish organizations in the greater metro area to rethink giving or what we call philanthropy. the conservative and reform jews in different parts of the country are doing this so bar mitzvah and bat mitzvah girls will tell their guest to contribute to jewish education instead of “saving the whales” et al. the only way out of the crisis is to rededicate ourselves to education , spreading this awareness and getting together with other groups of orthodox Jews, pooling resources and building on our strengths

    to 98
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    to 98

    I don’t think you understand the problem.

    The Yeshivas demand $10,000 – $20,000 per child, per year.

    If you have 10 children that’s between $100,000 – $200,000 per year.

    I don’t know how rich your father is, but most of us simply can not pay it.

    to 132
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    to 132

    I don’t think you understand the problem.

    The Yeshivas demand $10,000 – $20,000 per child, per year.

    If you have 10 children that’s between $100,000 – $200,000 per year.

    I don’t know how rich your father is, but most of us simply can not pay it.

    STILL HOME #46
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    STILL HOME #46

    my 2 girls still home and the crown hights school still stubborn for the full tuition, and also from last year! i have a small business but not doing good!!! not paying mortgage for 2 years and lots of debts!!! LIFE IS EASY!!! school think small business spacial when they see a retail store they EYE open, but beyond doors i wants to RUN A WAY from all the debts!!!

    Education
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    Education

    The core of the problem is the education that te yeshivas provde. Yes, I know that a small percentage of people without a college education do very well for themselves, but the vast majority of people with a decent college education do ok too. It’s those without that on the whole struggle most. Let’s tell it as it is – we need to give our kids a quality education so that they can support their families in dignity and give back to society.

    To #133 and #134
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    To #133 and #134

    No, sir, I am afraid YOU are not understanding.

    Are you playing dumb?

    Which family has 10 kids, ALL in Yeshivah at the same time paying 10-20k?

    If a family has 10 kids, usually only about 3 are in Yeshivah at any given year. The rest are in elementary or in preschool. (Sometimes 4 if it is a family of boys that are close together in age)

    The cost of elementary school can be brought down to an average of $4-5k a year if you live in Crown Heights.

    to # 1
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    to # 1

    yeshivas should have fundraisers, no one should be turned away, this is not acceptable in any yeshivah..

    so true
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    so true

    today my daughter came home to tell me that two kids from her class were sent home because they didn’t have admission cards which meant they hadn’t paid. Last year I got to witness a girl completely going off the derech because of the way she was treated in school. Maybe her kids might be given complete scholarships to go to bais rifkah because there IS money for kiruv. In Chabad no one has to pay to go to shul. Why is this? Afterall the Rabbi has to be paid- there is costs for electricity, gas, maintenance…because currently in Chabad… Read more »

    To 137
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    To 137

    So thats 50_70k a year, not doable for average people

    sending kids home on first day
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    sending kids home on first day

    What an horriblel thing to do …to send home a child who doesn’t have an admission card. To publicly humiliate a child in front of a classroom and ask them to come to the office with their backpacks is awful! The Child doesnt know their parents financial circumstances. The Hanhola should wait out the first day of school, let the child remain in school for the first day…then let the parents know that they cannot send the kids back until finances are in order.

    Reminder to #100 - outcomes of petitions...
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    Reminder to #100 - outcomes of petitions...

    You might have forgotten what the results of the last community petition to Rabbonim are. In case you have forgotten, here’s a reminder. Several well meaning individuals petitioned to Rabbi’s O. & S. to go to a Din Torah, hoping to resolve issues and bring upon sholom. (side note: I refused to sign the petition as I was certain it does not address the problems and will not bring remedy. Unfortunately, it seems like I was right). The petition was eventually accepted and a din torah occurred, at a HUGE expense. And what do we have to show for it?… Read more »

    Been There!! Pass the test #82
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    Been There!! Pass the test #82

    To all those people who don’t get it …. just thank God that you don’t know of such money issues… thank god that you never got your electricity shut off, that you eat normal suppers, that you don’t have to worry about how you’ll buy food for shabbos, or who is ganna be home for the kids because both parents work and you cant afford a baby sitter. That you have air in the summer and heating in the winter.That you don’t need to worry what you will do with your kids all day in the summer cause you cant… Read more »

    Please explain
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    Please explain

    In the real chassidishe communities, families pay $300 a month for the whole family. Most importantly, the schools LOOK for ways to make things as easy as possible on the parents.

    to 144
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    to 144

    which community r u from? obviously not CH

    Thank G-d!
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    Thank G-d!

    I thank G-d for the fact that the people who run moisdois ARE regular human beings (although they may not always behave as such). In simple english: They like money, Kavod and are darn lazy like most of us. If this was before Gimmel Tammuz happend; these people would of gotten their heads rolling from the Real Boss! Hasen’t the Rebbe spoken about the (at least) 10% who should go for free??? Hasem\n’t he begged that EVERY yiddishe child get an education? As a member of Anash who lives in a Chabad community where the Menahalim BOAST such growth in… Read more »

    The tuition situation is a bit crazy!
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    The tuition situation is a bit crazy!

    Not paying teachers on time, or at all, is a crime! Turning students away because their hard working parents can’t afford the crazy costs of tuition, is a crime! There is a very disturbing financial imbalance and a lack of transparency in jewish communities around the world. I say shame on all of us for not trying harder to change this madness! In my community, rabbis make 150k – 250k a year. Principles and heads of jewish schools live in very big houses, but us normal people live paycheque to paycheque and count our pennies. Educating our kids jewishly, became… Read more »

    paying teachers...nah...
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    paying teachers...nah...

    paying teachers is not the problem, listen here: what is the student -teacher ratio in any given yieshiva or mesivta? 1 to 12? or so? now, obviously not every bocher is a non paying bocher, maybe 20 %? so why blame on the unfortunate parents that cannot pay full tuition saying that the teachers aren’t getting paid because of them? without them can the teachers get paid easily? the anwerr is that the poaple encharge of fundising usually got their “cuts” at a rate of up to 50% of what their bring in… just saying… if you cannot afford to… Read more »

    This Is Mental Abuse
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    This Is Mental Abuse

    I know One thing! I live in a town where we have ,all sorts of moidos.Litvish,Ger,Belz etc…. I Am friendly with some of the Governors.And this is what they say:”OUR JOB IS TO RAISE THE MONEY FOR ALL THE SCHOOL EXPENSES”Its voluntary” Now a school shouldnt open up,on the Cheshbon that the parents will pay the fees and than our teachers wages will be payed.And the rest will be a profit for the Hanholo. Its run like a business.You pay for a service.You cant afford the service,than go elsewhere.In our town the Lubavitche moissad is guilty of “”” sending those… Read more »

    This makes me scared to have kids
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    This makes me scared to have kids

    I am young and in shidduchim. Reading this makes me scared to have a large family. I wonder if the schools know the effect they are having on the present late-teens early twenties generation. I don’t think we’ll be seeing many more families with 6. 7. 8+ kids if there isn’t some serious change. I just don’t know how I’m supposed to pay off years of student loans for college, plus pay bills and have a big family at the same time. I’m honestly petrified. Right now, I go to college and I teach in a Chabad school part time.… Read more »

    move to ISRAEL
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    move to ISRAEL

    Great Chabad Chinuch at about 500 shekels a year.

    FORMER BOARD MEMBER and a few secrets
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    FORMER BOARD MEMBER and a few secrets

    #1) Members of the board often pay full tuition in all their kids schools thus subsidizing and helping those who can’t afford. #2) members of the board do fund raise. They also make schar limud a priority. learn from them as this might be the key to their success in parnassa. #3) Schools ask kids not to come in so as to avoid embarressment. The thick headed parent ignores the school and sends the kids in anyway. #4) NO kids are not accepted into school over not paying tuition. 100% of the time its parents playing games (lying) or not… Read more »

    No tachlis to this article.
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    No tachlis to this article.

    I’m sure this won’t get published, because mainly I’m going to criticize the editors of this website rather than anything to do with this article. !. You’ve printed allegations against an unknown Torah institution which by your own admission you have not substantiated. You’ve therefore brought a Shem Ra not on an ‘unknown’ institution, but upon ALL Torah institutions by extension. 2. The entire article and “letter” are technically a pashkvil because it is anonymous and doesn’t do anything but raise contentiousness amongst Yidden for absolutely no apparent reason nor for any particularly identifiable way to rectify the problem. The… Read more »

    To the ignorant #153
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    To the ignorant #153

    I personally know the mother who wrote this article and the school who recently hired a new director who is a non educator and comes from the business sector. I commend the writer of this article and the editors of collive.com for having the sensitivity to not publicly embarrass this moisad (if they even deserve to be called a moisad) although they fully deserve it. This letter is anything but a pashkville, it is a plea from a dear Jewish mother who is not in a comfortable financial situation and yet is ready to sacrifice everything for the chinuch of… Read more »

    You don't know the other side # 154
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    You don't know the other side # 154

    I think it is so sad that you wrote the comment “the heartless heads of the school do teshuva quickly ” You only know one side and it’s not fair you judged someone without knowing the “full” situation, especially during Elul when you’re not supposed to judge harshly because you don’t want Hashem to judge YOU harshly at Rosh Hashana. May we ALL have a Sweet and Happy New Year!!!

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