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Mom
February 12, 2015 12:11 pm

Quite frankly I dont care if you judge him or not, that is for the courts. What I do care about is that you think that it is preferable for children to remain in a home where they are quite simply not safe. I also know both sides of this situation and can assure you that the best thing that happened to these children was finding their way to the home they are now in. Would you agree that it says something when a child cries for the foster parents rather than the birth parents because personally I think you… Read more »

monster
February 12, 2015 11:20 am

omg.. this guy should be locked up, and as for his wife, nebach, she needs a lot of help.. AGREED.. they dont belong in their care.. the facts speak for themselves

mad winter
February 12, 2015 7:16 am

I also believe based on what I read about. A k he should not be around his wife or kids and yes I will not judge them for this because I would not want to be judged by the public

mad winter
February 12, 2015 6:06 am

I googled a k ok will not say what I read about if you had acs at your home you would be crying for help like a helpless mom put your self in that mom shoes if you can if you are that heartless you should not be a mom i will say it again, i don’t agree with what they did but I refuse to jump and judge them also

Mom
February 12, 2015 2:48 am

I have brought up 5 children and never had acs at my home.
I suggest you consider what might have happened to these two beautiful little girls if acs haven’t been involved. Why notdo what #45 suggests Google Allen Kutsy.

t 41
February 11, 2015 9:26 pm

I agree in this case the children are better off but remember the acs is not your family and friends parnts Are afraid of them thay don’t have are better interest in mind I would like to how You respond to acs when they remove Your kids from your home no matter how much love that they will get thay will grow up with scars that will not heal

Think before you speak!
February 11, 2015 8:48 pm

I know the family personally and before you all say not to publicize and the kids should be with the parents think!!! This guy is a sick abusive person! Would you want your own kids to be in a home like this! Thank g-d this happened and hopefully the children will grow to be healthy emotionally and physically in the special family that is watching them now. and hopefully their mother will realize he is a danger for her and the kids and leave him and get help so she can continue her life and hopefully one day be able… Read more »

Google
February 11, 2015 8:31 pm

All you have to do is google Allen Kutsy or Velvel Kutsy and you will have all the proof you need that these hailiche children should never be left unsupervised in his care. Chani is a good friend of mine, but she is unfortunately never going to leave this abusive person. She is a beaten wife and is suffering at his hands.. However she is an adult and is making a choice to put herself and the girls in grave danger. She is free to leave and if she did that Im sure that she would have better chance of… Read more »

Mom
February 11, 2015 7:35 pm

To answer you #42. I will repeat ….authorities do not remove children without due reason, what you seem not to understand is that the ultimate decision comes from the judge hearing the case. I would not ever be in the situation of having my child removed due to domestic violence in the home because quite simply I would not allow a man to abuse me and stay hoping it didn’t happen again. So #42 just so you fully understand what it is like for a child to witness abuse I would like you to imagine never feeling safe in your… Read more »

So sad
February 11, 2015 4:53 pm

The fact that some of you say that children who are being abused or neglected should stay with their parents is appalling! I know the mother and knew not too long after she got married that she was being abused. I find that some of you think that all Jews are sints and can do no wrong. But that’s where you’re wrong. Jews are human beings too and commit crimes, abuse their spouses and/or kids, just like everyone else in this world. It’s very sad that people are trying to cover up the domestic abuse within the frum community, instead… Read more »

mad winter
February 11, 2015 4:42 pm

To 41 if it is so good to go to a foster care how about having your child separated from you it try see how you feel when acs comes knocking on your doorstep

A mom
February 11, 2015 3:43 pm

Let me assure you all. Producing a child does not make you a parent! A parent provides a stable, loving caring environment for their child, they love them unconditionally, protect and nurture them and always ensure that home is a place of safety. The foster parents in this case have provided the children with what they never had, a chance to grow up in a home filled with love and respect , laughter and strong family ties. Whoever suggested that the children prefer the Foster home because it is fancier could not be more mistaken. The children can go to… Read more »

unknown
February 11, 2015 12:48 pm

this incident has not been treated rightfully. names should never be publicised. these parents are fine parents as they did a mitzva 3 years ago on utica ave for me as i was trying to go to kingspaza and waiting for a bus.when hashkochas protis set in.they offer me a ride to a musicstore there.

To 38
February 11, 2015 11:14 am

I never heard of a Chassidishe foster home. The ways of chassidus never taught people to take children away from their parents. Chassidus teaches to lend a hand to a struggling family. Not to rescue children. That is what the Chappers would do. When caught, they would claim that they are “helping” these children to get the medical attention they deserved, which wasn’t available in their homes. If the step-parents truly loved the children, they would do their best to provide the parents with any needed assistance. Posting the parents as kidnappers of “missing children” is not the way of… Read more »

To Boruch Hoffinger
February 11, 2015 1:26 am

You are 100% wrong – the children are & were in a Chassidishe Crown Heights foster home for over a year. They called the foster parents mommy & tatty. I have no idea where you got your misinformation, but clearly, you were wrong. As for being “warned” to watch what I say – you don’t know the half of it. This is dysfunctionality at its best (or worst, depending on how you look at it.) How often do kids from “frum” Jewish homes get taken away by the authorities? You think they were placed in foster care for no reason?… Read more »

Hope
February 11, 2015 1:11 am

I hope the children will return one day to their REAL PARENTS.

Do not slander
February 10, 2015 10:30 pm

The children are innocent in all this. They deserve to be raised in a stable non violent Home where they are safe and cared for. The children May or may not have been physically abused but based on history it would only be a matter of time.
The parents are incapable of providing a safe environment for their children and therefore another home is the next best option

to the extended family
February 10, 2015 8:20 pm

If someone insults someone and they do not respond, they can give brochos. The lashon hara about this situation must be affecting you tremendously. May Hashem heal the situation in a way that you can handle and what is best for the children.

#10
February 10, 2015 6:20 pm

plz watch what u say

This is not right
February 10, 2015 4:55 pm

I’m unimpressed at col. Write that they’re missing, write that they were found. the rest is pure dangerous loshon hara. And to the commenters, watch what you write. Please. Think twice b4 writing something that might offend or hurt anyone in any way.

So that's what they did
February 10, 2015 4:20 pm

Took kids away from parents who appeared to be taking care of them (“they appeared to be ok”).

She is a good mother and wants only good for her children!
February 10, 2015 4:15 pm

B”H
The mother is a very nice person, frum and loves her children.
I used to share a dirah with her (before the children were born) and have spoken with her many times since.

these r very special children
February 10, 2015 3:48 pm

we need moshiach right now!!!!

To # 24
February 10, 2015 3:47 pm

These girls were not in a non-Observant home. They were with a very loving Lubavich family in CH that treated them like their own children.

Unbelievable
February 10, 2015 1:37 pm

This is a case of grave government overreach in all respects. And to see a comment like #10 relegate the children’s Parents as “birth parents” promotes kidnapping. You may call them foster “parents”, but they are (surely kind and nurturing) long-term babysitters, not parents of any kind, regardless of what you call them. Note: Because some nice and kind ‘stranger’ (of sorts) can provide materialistically or timewise or patiencewise or otherwise more than a child’s parent(s) does NOT give them a right to someone elses children or to call themselves parents in the place of a child’s caring and present… Read more »

Professionalism and respect?!!?
February 10, 2015 12:48 pm

this is nothing but gossip and Loshon Hora. I understand the community, COL and shomrim reaching out and spreading the B.O.L.O. ( be on the look out) for these people. However any other comments are unprofessional. As an employee of a federal agency, u must exercise professionalism and sensitivity when dealing with situations like this. The public does not need to be told anything that’s not pertinent to the bolo or the final results. There’s obviously a bigger story here, with multiple versions, but it’s private. So thank u to everyone who helped look, now respect the children and family… Read more »

To number 17
February 10, 2015 12:40 pm

Totally agree so many people jump to pass judgement on a person, how would you know what is going on in someone else’s life, you are not thst person!! When people say things about another’s life, they are speaking so foolishly, you can’t say anything about anyone, because, simply, you ain’t that person. You are not in their home, their head, their hearts. I had an evil wicked mother in law, who tried to destroy me and her son, and there were people who, get this, told us we were wrong because she was “my mother in law” so they… Read more »

publicizing this with names and photos!?!?
February 10, 2015 12:34 pm

definitely does NOT help the family heal
the kids need to walk the streets and go to school and it’s not easy after this type of publicity
especially when parents often allow young children to see these articles and posts or yent about these stories with their whole family at the supper table or what not….
If people are really out to help they can surely find private ways to do so….

Boruch N. Hoffinger 'HaKohaine ' BS"D
February 10, 2015 12:14 pm

Dear #10..I’m not positive…heard these beautiful children had been placed in a non-Observant home. What does ‘The Alte Rebbe’ say about spiritual death vs. physical (G-d forbid). I’ve seen the children and father in Frankel’s Shul a number of times & I’ve spoken to ‘Velvel’ many times…we’ve had friendly conservations and he helped me with a number of problems. ‘Todah’

just me
February 10, 2015 12:11 pm

yes its important to know the details you posted COL so good job.
Before and after, and if Shomrim helped great. Good you mentioned it kudos. If Shmira was involved great. If not its OK they do enuff too.
Lets just get along !
Many were on the lookout for them – stop nitpicking about hundred..were are the hundreds. Looking for machlokes?

May all be well with them.

Bh but appalled!
February 10, 2015 10:46 am

bh these girls are safe but that is all we need to know! Anyone sharing anymore information should be ashamed of themselves and col should take down any comments that may hurt the victims! The victims are real people who have wishes and dreams for a brighter future! Don’t let your need to yent blind you !

TO ALL YOU CROWN HEIGHTZER COMMENTERS and whoever else
February 10, 2015 9:52 am

Firstly before you judge the mother, the victim! go and get educated in phsycology. Second know that whatever you write here goes straight to the victim and she can read this. It is insensitive and harmful, hurtful, and you can’t judge her mothering capabilities with him around, she is a poor victim of abuse. And is under durres

very confusing
February 10, 2015 9:32 am

Is this good or bad? Should be posted, should not be posted? Everyone saying something else. I don’t get what’s flying in this story. Sounds like someone is telling a story without lots of details. someone pls explain, and who in the world are “hundreds of community members”??

oy chanie!
February 10, 2015 9:27 am

mom is a good person. she is in an abusive relationship

mum
February 10, 2015 9:05 am

col .i know that we r all very nosy. but b4 you post think, these kids have family other then the father and mother. you dont need to post all info, its in the clouds forever the kids grow up they dont need to see it .

absurd
February 10, 2015 8:33 am

The only thing the volunteers did was make a big chilul hashem, and a big hype for nothing.
They put their nose in were it doesn’t belong.
They would put the community at risk just to find a way to suck up to the police
Disgrace

Family
February 10, 2015 8:11 am

BH the girls have a wonderful family in ch who treats them like gold and cares for them like their own children. BH for people like this.

to # 10 & 12
February 10, 2015 7:43 am

with all due respect..this is not everyones business to know all the sordid details…just for joe publics voyeristic pleasure.These are people with extended family have some respect.You DONT have to be a jounalist..Sufficient to say the family is found safe and thank you for the much needed tehillim.Pure loshan hora and you know it.

Things like this should not be posted on COL.
February 10, 2015 6:29 am

There has to be some sort of privacy in this world.

Nobodies Buisness
February 10, 2015 5:57 am

To all the Baruch-Hashem’niks, although it’s Takeh Mamesh a Neys K’pshutoy, I still think that these childrens private lives are nobody’s business.

re: #3 no need for this to be posted
February 10, 2015 5:31 am

When an entire community is praying and searching for the welfare of precious Jewish children it is important that we be informed publicly of their return to safety, Baruch Hashem

What now
February 10, 2015 3:05 am

Who will take care of the children

They were in an amazing foster home
February 10, 2015 2:31 am

A frum, loving family in CH were caring for them as if they were their own & the girls were very happy. Then some idiot decided to send them back to a nightmare birth family. I know because I am friends with the foster mom. These “parents” need to have their parental rights terminated, because Mom has her own major issues too. I’m sure they will be tucked up safe & sound with their foster family tonight. BTW Dad was arrested very recently, bailed, & that’s when they skipped town. Poor kids, but this time I hope they will stay… Read more »

Baruch Hashem!
February 10, 2015 2:14 am

But what happens to them now? Who will take care of them? How can they trust the parents anymore to look out for their best interests??

Yes
February 10, 2015 1:10 am

Thanks to our shomrim and NYPD

Now what?
February 10, 2015 1:00 am

now how can we help these kids? And the mom? Can we get somewhere safe?

on the bright side
February 10, 2015 12:36 am

the kids are cute

BH!!
February 10, 2015 12:28 am

BARUCH HASHEM!

mom
February 10, 2015 12:23 am

i hope will stay safe too!

no need for this to be posted
February 10, 2015 12:16 am

“In the car with mom and kids driving back to the city,” b”H they are safe…but

WHY IS THIS THE WHOLE COMMUNITIES BUSINESS?

It is defintely NOT whats better for the kids…that their private life is posted for all to see…

Thank G-d for good news!
February 10, 2015 12:05 am

Thank G-d the children are safe! Kudos to the NYPD Detective Squad and everyone involved!

Baruch hashem!!
February 10, 2015 12:00 am
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