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Worcester Principal Chani Fogelman says girls should not have to wait until seminary to be trained for teaching. Full Story

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to all you hatters
December 11, 2014 10:54 pm

stop hating you are just jealous that you couldn’t think of it first!! and yeah it may be a small school but it is the BEST school around!!!!! morah chanie is a super smart, inteligent, inspirational women, and all your daughter would be lucky to have the honor or being called her students!!!

Even in Seminary
June 8, 2012 5:15 pm

The truth is that, besides for Chaya Mushka Seminary in Montreal and Beth Rivkah in Crown Heights, no english speaking seminary offers a full teacher’s training program.

brilliant idea
June 7, 2012 8:49 pm

more schools should adopt this

to #34
June 7, 2012 7:22 pm

so true!!!!!!!!…..worcester is the best!!!

Best families ever!!!
June 7, 2012 5:40 pm

My shabbos experiences at the abramowitz and witkes wonderful homes were really incredible, warm and inviting.
GO WORCESTER

alumni
June 7, 2012 5:25 pm

I realy enjoyed all my years in beis chana worcester, it gave me my chayus and excitement for life. Thnx thnx!

learning to teach?
June 7, 2012 10:14 am

Since when does seminary teach you how to teach???
I went to 2 seminaries – both very good seminaries, yet I did not coming out a teacher. Seminary is a year away from home to grow, discover yourself and have fun. Seminary does not teach you how to teach!!

GO WORCESTER!!!
June 7, 2012 5:52 am

B”H
Best high school ever!!! Loved it there! This looks amazing- I would have loved something like this when I was there. Mechayil el choyil!

Great!
June 7, 2012 1:01 am

To #26 and all those with similar posts…Even if you don’t end up being a teacher…how can having this course not be beneficial? It includes dealing with children (can apply to your own as well), There’s courses on child psychology, and techniques that is bound to face you whether you’re a teacher or not….(especially good for parenting). Kol HaKovod to Chanie Fogelman for implementing this course.

best years!
June 7, 2012 12:50 am

I am a Worcester Bais Chana Graduate and my High School years were the best! We were a small close knit group of girls who flourished personally, academically and all the while related to the community as a whole and were involved in many community projects. All of us who spent amazing years there remain very close friends till today. Rabbi and Rebbetzin Fogelman are amazing mentors and may they be blessed with Arichas Yomim Vshonim Tovos!

Bais Chana L.A.
June 7, 2012 12:28 am

BH

Has had a program in conjunction with SMC for YEARS!! Girls get most of their credits in 11th and 12th grade and complete their teaching credential in Seminary.

THE REBBE RASHAB
June 6, 2012 10:11 pm

The Rebbe Rashab once told some one who was going to America,where are you going?..The person answered Worcester..The Rebbe Rashab responded VUSTER….DUS IS A CHASSIDISHA SHTOT…..

Problem.....
June 6, 2012 9:46 pm

…….And there lies the problem……we train girls to teach before they even know if they want to teach, put them in classrooms to teach subjects that they don’t want to teach, and we get another generation of bad teachers.

P.S. Of course in 5 years time when they want a job, they’ll say that they want to teach. Girls also need a Parnoso.

P.S.S. Is this CDA credential good for all over the U.S. or just Massachusetts?

Bais Chana Alum
June 6, 2012 8:58 pm

When I went to seminary, my knowledge of Chassidus was way ahead of most girls from other schools. The secular education was also very high academically and both are now helping me in my Shlichus. Proud graduate- thank you Worcester!

WORCESTER IS THE BEST PLACE ON EARTH!!!
June 6, 2012 8:30 pm

We went to Bais Chana and there is no better small town high school with amazing dedicated shluchim, warm Chassidish families, and such a welcoming community. Coming from a big
city we appreciated this so much!!!!

Teaching....only thing out there?
June 6, 2012 8:02 pm

Why are they assuming that every member of the female population would like to go into the proffesion of teaching?

Bais Chana graduate
June 6, 2012 7:12 pm

I would’ve loved to have had these courses when I was in Bais Chana! I also think this is a good idea for high schoolers because it can help them decide if teaching is right for them. A lot of girls go into teaching as a default before finding out they either don’t like it or don’t have the chush for it (or both). For those girls, the classes will still be helpful because I’m sure every mother can benefit from learning about early childhood development. As for the size of the school – The American Federation of Teachers published… Read more »

Successful Programs
June 6, 2012 7:03 pm

While this kind of program may be new to the Chabad world, programs of this nature have been operating very successfully for many years in many high schools in Massachusetts. In order for the program to be successful it needs to be started in the 9th grade. The girls work through the courses acquiring knowledge and maturity as they move progressively through the 4-year course. It is not just a frivolous course “in between yearbook work”. It is a great option for girls who think they may want to teach.

Number 18 30 years in Chinuch?
June 6, 2012 5:53 pm

The problem we have in America is that we accept status quo.The answer that 12th grade has merit to teaching is wherin lies the problem.Its a quick fix that does not work, a few classes about teaching methods in between yearbook work etc is not the way to go. Our girls deserve better.

Worcester
June 6, 2012 5:13 pm

@Size
Yes that is the whole girls high school, in fact those girls range from grades 7 and up. Next year there is no longer going to be an elementary school either due to many people being forced out of the community. All they will have is a preschool and now they have this new preschool teaching program. how convenient.

Educator - with 30 years in chinuch
June 6, 2012 4:57 pm

There is much merit in teaching a course in methods
in 12th grade, because some girls do go out to shluchim
to work in pre-schools, etc. However, I totally disagree
in starting this program in 9th grade

go worcester
June 6, 2012 4:46 pm

excellent idea seminaries look out

this is great, IF you want to be a teacher
June 6, 2012 4:08 pm

there r other options out there i think the reason why they taught it in seminary is BECAUSE most of the girls who went there wanted to do teaching in hi school you get a more diverse group, som of whom don’t want to learn teaching since they hope NEVER to use it, but maybe as an elective…

This is wrong
June 6, 2012 3:58 pm

The educating of our teachers should be left to seminarys!

Changing times
June 6, 2012 3:54 pm

Who would have thought years ago to begin training our daughters to teach beginning in 9th grade. You should be commended for trying this project,my girls are already past this stage.I guess we missed the boat,enjoy the ride…….

Bais Chana Alum
June 6, 2012 3:51 pm

Go Worcester!!! There’s no place like it!

Size?
June 6, 2012 3:29 pm

is that all the students? thats quite small even for a all girls high school? and why is everyone crowded aroung one desk? just wondering….

maturity
June 6, 2012 3:22 pm

While it is wonderful to provide girls with early childhood courses,keep in mind a maturity is necessary to be properly prepared as a preschool teacher,and that can only come with age and experience.To discourage Seminary, is not in our teachings.

Seminary is Fun and Great
June 6, 2012 2:14 pm

They learn lots of Chassidus for those who want to learn, But learning how to teach?? The Seminaries forgot that it was originally designed for that…. Three daughters went to Israel Seminaries…but learning how to teach only came from their shlichus experience, the years after….Seminary…

Is this really possible?
June 6, 2012 1:48 pm

Oh finally someone put the seminarys on notice. A year in Israel ,touring does not create a professional teacher.

Hatzlacha Rabba!!
June 6, 2012 1:45 pm

Go worcester!!

Preparing a classroom
June 6, 2012 1:43 pm

Although its true that our Chabad House pre school has had mixed experience with high school graduates,it will be comforting to know that we can call a high school principal to inquire about the pre school teaching capabalities of a particular graduate.
Yasher Koach

So I can save seminary $$
June 6, 2012 1:39 pm

If your program works, then your saying my daughter can skip the seminary year and save me 18,000????

wow
June 6, 2012 1:11 pm

quite impressive!!

great idea
June 6, 2012 1:08 pm

seminary’s are over priced vacation. it would be far more productive if girls could go work for shluchim(and GET PAID) with that kind of experience they would be treated with more respect feel more confident and be more productive.

Amazing.
June 6, 2012 12:59 pm

beautiful conditions, love the brown tables, keep in up 😉

hellllooo worcester! welcome to the map :) :)
June 6, 2012 12:53 pm

jokes jokes 🙂 HAHAHAHAHA! gosh sheesh hashem yerachem…. RABBI GREEN ROX!!!!!! GO RABBI GREEN!!

Sounds great
June 6, 2012 12:47 pm

Sounds like a well thought out program, our Chabad house has had girls straight out of high school as well as seminary. It took them weeks to learn how to prepare a classroom
Thank you!!

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