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Why the Rebbe Used Benedictine

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Regardless
December 22, 2017 1:37 pm

It is quite simple to understand that this whole issue of what the Rebbe consumed many years ago with regard to this mashke (or any other processed food,for that matter) has absolutely no bearing on us now.

Companies change, recipes change, and production methods and utensils (casks etc.) change.

Kosher and not kosher
December 22, 2017 1:09 pm

@ Benedictine #14

Cholov yoroel , bishuel yosroel and pass yisroel can have leniences about them and that’s how the agencies certify certain products …. however if something is not kosher it’s not kosher … no 2 ways about it.

The Rebbe says clearly it's kosher!
December 22, 2017 12:41 pm

What are you guys all arguing about?! The Rebbe says clearly here & in another sicha as well that there never was a question about the kashrus of Benedictine… & We will use it as well when Moshiach comes…

Benedictine !!!!!
December 22, 2017 11:26 am

It was known that even tough the Rebbe discontinued the use of Benedictine publically at the fahrbrengen, because some “smart fellahs” raised an issue. He however, used it it in his home personally. When “misnagdim” raise issues about mashke, that is a sign that you are “first” allowed to use it. Many of these “kashrut organizations’ are not stringent on major halachik issues, such as Cholov Yisroel, Bisuel Yisroel,, Pass Yisroel etc. (just to name a few). And all of the sudden they are “so” concerned about mashke. The Rebbe drank Benedictine and as Lubavitchers we don’t need a better… Read more »

Question
December 22, 2017 10:10 am

What Minhag of Reb Levik is the Rebbe referring to?

TO #6
December 22, 2017 12:21 am

The Rebbe is repeating the question as stated. What is your point. So, say the questioner got it wrong, the Rebbe addresses the real issue: Kashrus. As to your last sentence. Why don’t you read what the Rebbe wrote: And they were a number of times in the country/location where this liquor is produced and they did not have any doubt as to it being mixed with wine; and it is also clear that the method of production has never been changed and furthermore and even more emphatically, there was an investigation in the matter again a few years ago… Read more »

Benedictine
December 21, 2017 11:44 pm

Dear Editor In the note you published, the Rebbe said there was never a cshash in Benedictine that wine was added and that our Rebbes had it investigated as to its kashrus. I would like to add that several years ago that I checked via correspondence and the company confirmed to me in writing there was no wine. Rabbi Motty HaSofer of Rabbi Landa’s office has subsequently told me that he actually has visited twice to the factory in recent years and confirmed in person there is no wine and that all the ingredients are kosher. There have been no… Read more »

BEWARE!
December 21, 2017 11:38 pm

THERE ARE THREE Benedictine:

Single cask liqueur is Kosher.

B&B is 100% NOT Kosher. (They add Brandy hence the B&B.)

The common one with the word DOM which is their regular liqueur is 100% Kosher.

BEWARE!

Is it kosher for Lubavitchers? Which Benedictine is and isn't Kosher?
December 21, 2017 11:38 pm

The most reputable Kashrus Agencies in the world, however, advised consumers that it was not to be used. In Melbourne, the Rabbi who is the Chief Posek for Kosher Australia is Mordechai Gutnick and he is a Lubavitcher. However, he pronounced that it was not recommended. The head chemist of Kosher Australia, Kasriel Oliver, also a Lubavitcher, said in no uncertain terms that it was not to be consumed irrespective of what the Lubavitcher Rebbe had done in days gone by. The Chicago Rabbinic Council do lots of investigating of spirits and liqueurs as does the London Beth Din. If… Read more »

What does everyone else say about Benedictine"
December 21, 2017 11:28 pm

Here are the opinions:

Star K – Not recommended;
London Beth Din – Dom is kosher;
NSW (Sydney) — Not acceptable;
MK (Montreal) – Not acceptable;
OU – Not recommended.
Chicago – Not Kosher
JSOR – nope
Seattle – not recommended
France – NK

The REAL Story of Benedictine - from cRc
December 21, 2017 11:25 pm

Benedictine Liqueur Rabbi Dovid Cohen Administrative Rabbinic Coordinator of the cRc Centuries ago a monk created a flavored whisky (i.e. a liqueur) that contained a blend of 27 herbs and spices, and the beverage was produced by his successors for a few hundred years. Production was stopped around the time of the French Revolution, and it wasn’t until the late 19th century that a French wine merchant discovered the recipe and began manufacturing the drink once again. Although the merchant built a cathedral-like building to house his factory (which is still in use to this day) and named the beverage… Read more »

Benedictine is NOT produced by monks
December 21, 2017 9:54 pm

“As is well known” often means “I have no idea, I’m just guessing”. Benedictine has NEVER been produced by monks. It was invented in the 19th century and has always been a commercial product. There is no tradition, just a secret recipe that someone invented, just like Coca Cola. And since it’s secret, there’s no guarantee that they haven’t changed it many times.

to #3
December 21, 2017 9:48 pm

I believe it was shabbos shabbos parshas noach 5727

green or brown
December 21, 2017 9:06 pm

it would be a great mitzva to clarify what happened with this. did the kosher one change to be in brown bottle and vice versa?as people are saying today.
can someone in the know please publisize the answer to above

Fact
December 21, 2017 8:54 pm

I forget when exactly, but the Rebbe said that since questions were brought up about it by someone we will no longer Ben using it although when moshiach come it will be revealed that it was never a question it is ok.

Fascinating!
December 21, 2017 8:02 pm

Thanks for posting!

mottell
December 21, 2017 7:47 pm

If I remember correctly the benedictine bottle was green and not brown
the green one is benedictine
an the brown one is benedictine liqueur

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