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Ephraim Sherman, a resident of Crown Heights who was one of the organizers of the "Tahalucha for Social Justice," explains why he and others organized the solidarity march. Full Story

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I wrote a thesis in US History
June 11, 2020 11:16 pm

This is drivel and absurd. You want to protest do so, but stop with the cotton references. It was outsourced ages ago…. anyone who picked it by hand isn’t alive and as are their children…

I don't think you read the article
Reply to  I wrote a thesis in US History
June 12, 2020 7:12 am

It’s quite clear from the article that although the cotton took place many yards ago, nonetheless, if it were against the Jews, we would be furious…
Yet I would beg go disagree with the premise of the article; I don’t think the Jews would be furious! Is bout the Jewish thing to do. The Jews in the shtetle would be very sad and broken, and would turn to shul and Daven to hashem!
Not take it to the streets…

Maybe...
Reply to  I don't think you read the article
June 20, 2020 1:23 am

Maybe they should’ve taken it to the streets?

Eli Whitney
Reply to  I wrote a thesis in US History
June 12, 2020 4:22 pm

Not to mention that the cotton gin, invented by Eli Whitney, did a lot to reduce labor. Fewer black hands were needed. There is conjecture that the cotton gin might have free the slaves if the Civil War hadn’t, because the cotton gin was more cost-effective than slavery.

Eli Whitney
Reply to  Eli Whitney
June 12, 2020 7:28 pm

This has absolutely no basis in fact. In fact the opposite, it made cotton more cost evening, requiring more slaves to grow cotton, not less

Blah blah blah
June 11, 2020 11:28 pm

Just stop….. we’ve had enough of your lecturing…all these articles telling us how we should feel how we shouldn’t feel!!! You cannot compel people to think the way you do and YOU NEED to understand or at least respect people who disagree with you and see things differently!!! Enough with this “if you don’t think like me you are a racist etc…….”

Huh? We’re Chabad!
Reply to  Blah blah blah
June 12, 2020 2:38 pm

Of course we get involved with how people should act, and feel! We never bought into the whole idea of “mind your own business”, remember? Kol yosroel areivim zeh l’zeh. People will speak up and try to bring more light. If you don’t see it that way, so be it.

Facts
June 11, 2020 11:31 pm

Most blacks here in NY are immigrants to this country.

Don’t see anything about Jews burning down stores and killing people in the moshul ….

Many blacks in this country are inherently anti semitic…

But....
June 11, 2020 11:34 pm

You are absolutely right in everything you say. It still doesn’t justify destroying people’s livelihoods and stealing everything they could get their hands on. This has nothing to do with racism. This is just criminals acting like criminals.

Tell me...
June 11, 2020 11:36 pm

Did you protest with such vigor when your fellow CH residents were being subjected to near daily hate crimes few months back?

What did you do for those injustices?

there was a march, nobody came.
Reply to  Tell me...
June 12, 2020 1:35 am

I bumped into him at the No hate no fear march in Jan. Ms Halberstam spoke. Were you there? A lot of people are saying the same thing but I only saw a few Lubavitchers.

march for what?
Reply to  there was a march, nobody came.
June 12, 2020 10:34 am

a ‘solidarity’ photo for my social media feed? no thanks why didn’t the author pen a lengthy article to collive and arrange a march through the streets of Crown Heights when his own neighbors were being attacked? it’s not like it was a one time isolated event, it happens year after year after year. why didn’t the author decry the deafening silence from local legislators who represent Crown Heights? why didn’t the author march through the streets demanding action from his local legislators who did nothing but post a sentence long response “i stand in solidarity” on their social media… Read more »

Based on your "logic"
June 11, 2020 11:36 pm

All Jews in Europe, for example, should stop what they are doing and start rioting, looting, killing and hurting random people, burning and destroying property, because Europe’s economy is built on Jewish blood (which is thousands times more true than the claim that America’s is built on Black blood).

Hahahah
June 11, 2020 11:36 pm

The only ppl who are racist are white liberals who think “the poor blacks” need their help.

Warped thinking!
June 11, 2020 11:47 pm

Yes, let’s just force these folks into victimhood for the rest of eternity. “You’re a victim! We made you into victims! And we must always remind you to keep on being that victim”

I believe is vital to stand to injustice , However
June 11, 2020 11:57 pm

The serious problem marching arm to arm as a Jew with BLM is the simple fact that legitimizes their pursuit to try to separate Anti- Israel and Anti – Semitism that always end up in pure Anti- Semitism. Also nobody deserves a death like Floyd but also he did not deserved a funeral of head of state as a 9 times incarcerated delinquent, he is not a paragon of virtue to emulate for any black youth. More than marching as community teach your children not to be condescending or racist and the only way is your family refraining of derogatory… Read more »

really????
June 12, 2020 12:03 am

Where were all our friendly african american neighbors when our children were frightened to walk the streets? Did they come out to defend their jewish friendly neighbors? Earlier this year, we were being attacked, slapped, pushed in the streets of our community….why were u not setting up demonstrations defending your own?

No you organized this because you’re race obsessed
June 12, 2020 12:05 am

And you only see 1 side of the issue but ignore the facts and statistics. Why don’t you be brave and organize these “mivtzoim” in Chicago since you’re such a righteous guy. This was a perversion. Mivtzoim for goyim means publicizing 7 noach Mitzvot – but that is not what happened. Amazingly you didn’t mention the rioting , looting, and murders that occurred, nor the three 11:00 at night marches we have to endure at eastern parkway. But hey thanks for preaching to us about racism and setting us straight.

Leah
June 12, 2020 12:11 am

If you feel so comfortable with your decision, then why are you posting a long article explaining yourself, and telling people what to do. I agree that we should be nice and kind to all individuals regardless of their skin color but Please, Chanting BLM in CH is SHAMEFUL! Antifa and BLM are terrorizing people. They come to Eastern parkway in middle of the night. My child is terrorized, you call that peaceful? Defunding and dismantling the police should never be supported by any CH member. This is not about racism. The mission of BLM has become clear to many… Read more »

being honest, way too long of a read
June 12, 2020 12:20 am

still doesn’t explain why I didn’t see you do any march organizing for Jews who were beaten and murdered this year. or why you don’t ask the same people you marched FOR, to march for those Jews beaten and murdered as well. or how about people from other races who are roughed up by specific cops? Did you march for them? Or what about the cops that are brutally murdered in cold blood by blacks? Did you march for them? Or what about the blacks that are beaten and murdered by other blacks? Did you march for them? How can… Read more »

Your mind is so open your brains are falling out!
June 12, 2020 12:21 am

This entire thing is outrageous! Even your story doesn’t make sense. This underdog society is terrible where that take any and all advantage to wreak havoc where they could. You don’t see that in the Jewish community. We just had the holocaust where we lost not a few but 6 million yes I repeat 6 million! We don’t go looting stores and we don’t go on a rampage wreaking havoc we express ourselves through discussion and awareness. The black community can do the same but many don’t they are so busy crying wolf and they destroy what little good they… Read more »

Slavery
June 12, 2020 12:27 am

Historically slavery existed in most cultures and countries for thousands of years.

Only recently has slavery in most places stopped.

Slavery is not a black issue. Slavery is not an American issue. Historical Slavery crosses almost all races.

100%
Reply to  Slavery
June 12, 2020 2:21 pm

we were slaves in eygpt

Amazing
June 12, 2020 12:31 am

Everything that a Jew does must be guided by Torah and our Rabbi’s, no Matter how much sense it makes to you.

Opinion
June 12, 2020 12:31 am

This article is a mix of facts, half truths, and pure fantasy.

opinion
June 12, 2020 12:35 am

going out of your way to find a black and help him is racist in itself. it’s essentially telling him i came to offer you help because i know i am better than you and you are less and therefore need my help. I treat blacks the same way i treat everyone else, i don’t do anything more for them or anything less.

In addition to all the above excellent comments
June 12, 2020 12:48 am

Social justice is the exact opposite of justice. Whenever you need a qualifier in front of justice, you’ve gone against Torah’s view of צדק צדק תרדף. We don’t change justice to fit the narrative or whatever social campaign you’re on. When you do that, you pervert justice.

Gemara
Reply to  In addition to all the above excellent comments
June 12, 2020 2:12 am

so why are all the laws divided into books-books of jewish law…of course there is order within law…

You're talking nonsense
Reply to  Gemara
June 12, 2020 11:02 am

If you look at Rashi on the פסוק of צדק צדק תרדף, you will see that Rashi explicitly states the פסוק comes to teach us to do justice and not social justice.

None of those books divide justice
Reply to  Gemara
June 14, 2020 1:30 am

into different sorts. They’re all about the same unhyphenated justice.

Exactly.
Reply to  In addition to all the above excellent comments
June 14, 2020 1:29 am

Any hyphenated justice is not justice. Social justice, environmental justice, racial justice, economic justice, gender justice, etc., are all inherently unjust. They all call for justice to take the blindfold off and take sides, to put her thumb on the scales. And the Torah explicitly tells us that a judge may not favor the rich OR THE POOR. If in a case between a rich man and a poor man, the rich man is right, the judge has no right to have mercy on the poor man and change the verdict. That is the opposite of “social justice”, and it… Read more »

Smart guy but
June 12, 2020 12:56 am

You seem to be missing about 90% of the facts

BLM charter
Reply to  Smart guy but
June 29, 2020 9:06 am

We do not believe in the nuclear family

Defund police

Defeat Donald Trump

Look a what you supported! Hillul Hashem

White guilt
June 12, 2020 1:05 am

The author is self victimizing. He takes the premise that whites did something to blacks and whites have to fix their problems. This is totally false and misleading. Having said all that, now let me tell you why I chose NOT to join the march, even though I totally condemn the senseless murder of George Floyd. First of all, we as jews have tolerated a lot of injustice at the hands of local thugs. Whenever we hold protests, none of our black friends join us, besides a handful of politicians who pay lip service to our cause. Secondly, and even… Read more »

What about us?
June 12, 2020 1:12 am

Maybe the world should pay us for our slavery in Egypt!?
Egypt was built by us, Babylonia stole their riches, followed by the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Europeans, America…
America was built on our slavery in Egypt!

Be grateful
Reply to  What about us?
June 12, 2020 10:09 am

Please remember the line from Haggadah: if the Holy One, blessed be He, had not taken us out of Egypt, we would still be slaves. The Rebbe has an interesting comment to this. Not only were we physically redeemed, emotionally and spiritually we were removed from the status of slaves.

Thank you!
June 12, 2020 1:36 am

Very interesting and insightful article. The march was a big kiddush Hashem and a beautiful display of community unity. Thank you!

Be as Courageous as a Leopard
June 12, 2020 1:43 am

Ephraim,
Outstanding points and Kol HaKavod, super proud of you organizing this and writing this!
Don’t listen to the nay sayers, your truly doing the Eibeshter’s work and making the Rebbe proud
Your friends from a small island in the Pacific 😉

Was this done
Reply to  Be as Courageous as a Leopard
June 12, 2020 9:31 am

Bhaskomas harabbonim? Didn’t see any rov attached to this.

Chutzpah
Reply to  Be as Courageous as a Leopard
June 12, 2020 11:13 am

The Rebbe would be ashamed of this. Don’t contaminate the Rebbe’s Mivtzoim and Tahalucha with this garbage social justice. We don’t support defunding the police, we don’t support rioting and looting.

To Ephraim Sherman
June 12, 2020 1:58 am

Did you organize a march on behalf of Jews in Crown Heights when just a few months ago we were being terrorized by Blacks?

You suffer from severe self-righteousness. Don’t tell us how to live our lives.

they don't need your support
June 12, 2020 2:17 am

find something more practical to do with your life

Agree with every ssd's single comment
June 12, 2020 2:31 am

Just look at sensible black people like Candace Owens and others like her you will see the distinction between true objective conservatism and racist fanatic liberalism!!

Ein Hamoshol Domeh L'nimshal
June 12, 2020 3:03 am

1. The racism is in part due to the fact that African Americans have a higher level or criminal activity than many other cultures. True, that does not excuse racism. However, there is not as simple as you make it either. 2. You cherry pick your history. Ever heard of the industrial revolution? A lot happened since slavery. Also, the other reason American is rich is that they financed wars. As in wars full of Jewish blood. But I wouldn’t expect you to know your own history. 3. Ask your African American neighbors where they come from. Surprise! Surprise! 4.… Read more »

White guilt and equality
June 12, 2020 3:34 am

Jews arent white. I dont have white guilt. My ancestors were murder by Nazi Germany 80 years ago. I need to feel bad because some europeans enslaved black people 300 years ago. That being said, no human deserves brutality based on their skin color. Support the protests, enough with the racist white gult, and surely dont justify the riots.

Impressed
June 12, 2020 4:02 am

For the first time I’m impressed with the comments on col! There may be hope in our community. Maybe we didn’t all lose our way..

Jewish lives count
June 12, 2020 4:39 am

The other day an Arab pleaded guilty to the charge of raping and murdering a beautiful Jewish teenager here in Eretz Yisroel.
Where are the protests? Where is the outcry?!

We do need to change. But so do they!
June 12, 2020 5:50 am

I realized recently that I’m actually a subtle racist. The reason I say that is because I become more cautious when black people approach me. And I am not when white or Jewish people do. I DO NOT want my children to have to feel the way I do! I AM WILLING TO CHANGE! BUT, We need the black communities help. They need to stop with all the crime. Fact is they do commit more crime. Especially in crown heights. How often did one of my friends as a kid get mugged from a white person? The black community can’t… Read more »

That is not racism
Reply to  We do need to change. But so do they!
June 14, 2020 1:43 am

You are right to be cautious of black people and not of white people, let alone of Jewish people, because the fact is that a random young black man on the street is about ten times more likely to assault you than a white person is, how much more so a Jewish person. That is not the fault of all the decent black people who oppose crime, just as Arab terrorism is not the fault of those decent Arabs who oppose it. But just as Jews in Israel would be suicidally insane not to fear all Arabs, you would be… Read more »

Nice try buddy
June 12, 2020 7:43 am

I like the way you tried to convince everyone with the shtetle, but, sorry, I don’t thing anybody fell for it. Listen, joining, or making a protest of our own, may have been the right thing, but not for the reasons you gave. If you would have said “the rebbe spoke for hours about justice reform, education reform, living in peace and love, treating every creation of hashem with respect”, but that was not the angle you came from; you began by imagining you were in the same position. If I’m not mistaken, the main drive of this “protest” was… Read more »

Thank you!
June 12, 2020 7:44 am

I hope this comment doesn’t get drowned out by all the negativity and ignorance.

Thank you for this article and standing with our POC neighbors!
You’re a true chassid!

That's nice...
Reply to  Thank you!
June 12, 2020 12:54 pm

but what have I been ignoring?
The rioters who looted countless businesses, taking away the livelihood of many?
BLM’s open support of other hate groups like Antifa and BDS?
My child, who’s scared to leave the house?
Associating the Rebbe’s Mivtzoim with all that?
Sorry, but YOU are ignorant. (Kidding, I’m not sorry in the slightest)

Who are calling ignorant?
Reply to  Thank you!
June 12, 2020 1:30 pm

You’re literally ignoring every SINGLE claim put forward in these comments. Why don’t you go ahead and respond to them first?
(And just in case your ignorance got the better of you, and you didn’t read the comments, you should go back and do so. Some say pretty good stuff)

Important
June 12, 2020 7:54 am

Thank you for your article. I dont agree with everything in it, but I commend your bravery for writing it with your name attached and for challenging Crown Heighters to think about things differently.

FRUM LIVES MATTER
June 12, 2020 8:07 am

Let talk about how we had some many black on jews attacks in this neighborhood, and i’m not talking about 20 plus years ago during the riots, im talking about the last year and months. Stop pushing your white liberal agenda that we all have to feel sorry for blacks and that somehow we are responsible and it’s our “fault”. This movement in crown heights is just the modern american version of neturei karta. if your going to protest, please start with causes that hit close to home. How are you okay as a frum parent not allowing your child… Read more »

THANK YOU EPHRAIM - YOU ARE A TRUE LEADER!
June 12, 2020 8:30 am

An amazing read. I can’t believe the deep and inherent racism that lives in CH by reading the comments to such a wonderful and compasionate piece about our black neighbors.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves of pretending to be holier than thou.
Absolutely disgusting!

Excuse me,
Reply to  THANK YOU EPHRAIM - YOU ARE A TRUE LEADER!
June 12, 2020 12:59 pm

I actually DO think I’m holier than people who loot and riot and terrorize and spread disease.
And by extension, I actually DO think I’m holier than those who associate with and support the above-mentioned people.
(And if you find my opinion terrible, don’t automatically assume that everyone who’s against the protest feels the same way. Thank you for your patience)

Stop watching fake news.
June 12, 2020 8:39 am

I believe your problom is that you base everything off feelings.

The data does not support your statistics, on the contrary it supports the exact opposite.
Blacks are not oppressed more than whites. Its just a media lie.
(That is no way excusing what happened to GF. That was wrong all the way and justice was served.

We are not the white people years ago,and they are not the same as the people who lives years ago.

Let us all get along.

Oh Please
June 12, 2020 8:53 am

Firstly, most of the blacks in this area are immigrants, so the whole history you mentioned doesn’t apply to them. Secondly, there’s no evidence that the killing of George Floyd had anything to do with racism. There have been many unarmed white men killed by police too. Thirdly, you seem completely oblivious to the history of anti-Semitism in this country. Jews were also barred from many areas and we didn’t respond with violence and victimhood. You say that fighting racism begins with white people. But historical injustices to the black community are no more important than fear and terror that… Read more »

Statistically not correct
June 12, 2020 9:15 am

I think we can all agree that the killing of George Floyd was wrong. No one is disagreeing about that. However, to then conflate this to say that blacks are still being mistreated by whites and that they are being treated unfairly by the police is statistically inaccurate. Statistics show that approximately TWICE the amount of whites over blacks are killed by police in the last 4 years. The idea that there is a police “pogrom” against black people is a lie. If you want to talk about how there is a smaller proportion of blacks to whites in America… Read more »

I'm not so sure his death was wrong
Reply to  Statistically not correct
June 14, 2020 1:52 am

Based on the facts currently available, it’s not at all clear that Floyd was murdered. He was not choked to death. He died of a heart attack caused by many factors, one of which was the stress of being restrained by the police. But they were right to restrain him. The only real criticism is that in hindsight rather than just holding him restrained while waiting for the ambulance they’d called, they should have checked on him more often and as soon as he passed out they should have turned him over and tried to assist him. But that failure… Read more »

Really?
June 12, 2020 9:36 am

Where was your outcry when just a few months ago Jews were being beaten just for being Jews. By our friendly black neighbors. Where was your voice then?

You and the other marchers are a disgrace and do NOT speak for our community.

Personal opinion
June 12, 2020 9:47 am

Your moshol is nice, but inaccurate. You’re correct, America was built on black slavery. Who sold those black slaves? The Africans. Now imagine, in your moshol, that a group of Kurds move into town. They buy some property after fleeing persecution in their native land and start a new life. Now imagine Yankel and the yidden in town (ch”v, just for the sake of the moshol) start harassing these Kurds, beating up their children, robbing them, disturbing their lives, cursing and yelling at them, breaking into their barns, stealing, constantly trying to scam them for money, and even killing these… Read more »

Absurd
June 12, 2020 9:48 am

That u compare this to old antisemitsm is absurd. A black president was voted in twice. Does that sound like systemic racism. Cuz I don’t see a Jew being voted in anytime soon. So get ur facts straight. And ur match was based on falsehood. Didn’t see u March when a Jew was attacked by a black in Monsey in his Shul and has since died Where was ur voice then.

Nice effort
June 12, 2020 9:49 am

I admire your effort to explain it using the local lingo. Unfortunately it seems people are not willing to look past their biases and are too taken in by inflammatory rethoric.

Who are you calling inflammatory?
Reply to  Nice effort
June 12, 2020 1:28 pm

‘cuz I’m pretty “Defund the police” and other statements being shouted at riots and protests are EXTREMELY inflammatory. And besides, speaking more calmly doesn’t make it more true (and in this case, it sounds like a whole lot of self-righteousness). How ’bout you respond to each and every claim made in the comments here? How ’bout that? Maybe then we can talk

Thank you Rabbi Sherman
June 12, 2020 10:01 am

I was also raised to have respect for my fellow human being, and NOT to feel superior because I am Jewish. Something I feel is NOT being taught in Crown Heights. We are raising our children with a superiority complex! Raising them to think they are superior not just to Gentiles, but to Jews who aren’t “Chabad.” This is so racist, and contrary to what the Torah teaches. We are here to be a light to the nations, and arrogance about being “Chabad,” does NOT bring light!!!! I have never seen such racism towards blacks as in Crown Heights and… Read more »

The Torah says we ARE superior
Reply to  Thank you Rabbi Sherman
June 14, 2020 2:08 am

The Torah says we SHOULD feel superior because we are Jewish. If you were raised otherwise then you were raised on a belief which is against the Torah and you should abandon that belief. Ashreinu mah tov chelkeinu. Shelo som chelkeinu kohem. We are bonim lamokom and other people are NOT. That makes us superior to them, but it also gives us a big responsibility to live up to that status. And we are NOT here to be a light to the nations. There is no pasuk telling us that. Some interpret some of the pesukim in Yeshaya to mean… Read more »

Standing up for justice
June 12, 2020 10:18 am

The protests initially began because the cops involved with the incident were not arrested. Now they are, and charged with murder. Sadly, once these protests began, they have evolved into people just letting out their bottled up feelings about everything (The president, white privilege, the police system(Again, now they are protesting that ALL COPS ARE BAD – not just the one in Minneapolis who is a murderer-(ACAB) and some cops who were just trying to protect themselves and their cities were KILLED during these protests)). As we have seen in the past week and a half-these protests have nothing to… Read more »

The cops should not have been arrested
Reply to  Standing up for justice
June 14, 2020 2:10 am

They were only arrested to placate the mob, on the orders of the vicious Jew-hater, cop-hater, and white-people hater Keith X Ellison. They will not get justice if it is up to him.

mivtzoim?
June 12, 2020 10:21 am

don’t bring in the Rebbe’s mivtzoim in to your opinion! similar to the lady at your “tahalucha” holding a sign reading “hevai zahir bireshus= defund the police”. don’t pretend like the Torah somehow agrees with you, or ch”v one of the Rebbe’s mivtzoim is not being racist(?!)!!!!

LA Morah
June 12, 2020 10:33 am

It seems the writer has been brainwashed by the overwhelmingly leftist media and academia.

Maybe
June 12, 2020 10:39 am

I do business with many african Americans right here in Crown Heights. They are smart and savvy business people. They ALL want nothing to do with these marches. They all realize that this is all an excuse for criminals to run wild. Mr. Sherman, if you were not racist, you would be doing business with all people and won’t consider the skin tone as a factor. If you had any real relationships with African Americans you would know that the real African American community is not out there rioting, it is criminals that are looting. This has nothing to do… Read more »

Real Victims
Reply to  Maybe
June 12, 2020 4:59 pm

The real victims are the normal black middle class — those with business (many of which got looted) and those going to work each day to keep the city going. Unfortunately, in the public mind they are going to be lumped together with the rioters, looters, and left-wing people like the writer above.

Please don't call it a Tahulacheh!
June 12, 2020 11:03 am

‘Tahalucheh’ was a holy thing, something that the Rebbe sent baalei batim and bochurim to go on. I leave it to others to argue about the merits of your cause, but please do not sully the word ‘Tahalucheh’ by referring to what you participated in as a ‘Tahalucheh’.

was thinking the same thing
Reply to  Please don't call it a Tahulacheh!
June 14, 2020 2:11 am

you are 100% right

Just like Ocasio- Cortez
June 12, 2020 11:09 am

Maybe you want to write an article supporting AOC about how detainment at the border is just like Nazi concentration camps? Your fantasy narrative about the shtetl shows you have absolutely no knowledge of the nature of Jewish life then, and the nature of the atrocities committed against us. You’re doch a Jew – go learn your nation’s history better. Such a comparison is beyond dangerous.

Mentoring Program
June 12, 2020 11:11 am

While it feels good to be in the public eye and march perhaps you should organize something that would actually help and impact their community i.e. a mentoring program since so may black kids are sadly without fathers in their lives.

Brother
June 12, 2020 11:16 am

Do you mind explaining what in the world this moshull has to do with the white man in LA who’s store got burnt down? For the life of mine i cant figure it out. While that moshul is a nice piece of poetry, It has NOTHING to do with the practical case. The yidden NEVER did anything wrong to anyone else, Are you comparing the eisav sonie es yaakov to me hating the fact that these blacks are screaming BLM and that that gives them a excuse to riot? Think for a minute brother! You make NO sense

A tad racict?
June 12, 2020 11:25 am

Racism is more than just the n-word and the KKK. It is also comments like “the problem with blacks is…” The response to that , by the way, can be “maybe the better question to ask is what’s the problem with white people, considering all of the things that white people did, and still do to black people.” Wow! way to solve racism with more racism. I am somehow responsible for other peoples bad behavior because of my white skin color? I sense from your tone that you are a good person and you care about these issues. I would… Read more »

Your attitude is condescending and patronizing
June 12, 2020 11:30 am

Thanks for the moshel and nimshel, but your attitude is both condescending and patronizing. What, you think that if you don’t compare all this to “Vlad” and “Yankel” and “Uncle Mendy” and the “shtetl in the alter heim” and the “poritz” (whatever those are), we won’t be able to understand your point? Who living today understands your references??! Collive readers are probably all born post-WW2; are modern, intellectual and up-to-date thinkers. Don’t talk down to us as if you really ‘see’ this properly and we don’t, that you must educate us. I assure you that we all already have a… Read more »

The black community needs real change
June 12, 2020 12:00 pm

People like to tell blacks what they need and how they need it etc. But it seems like they are just blind (or possibly worse) to the needs of the black community, starting with better education in inner city schools, criminal justice reform to bring the black father’s home to educate their children, obviously its easier to give out reparations but that dosnt really help them long term

Some police reform would be nice
June 12, 2020 12:05 pm

I’m not sure if its racism as much as it is overall police agression, the cop that killed George floyd had a very aggressive track record, any police force besides for having people who genuinely want to help protect their communities, also have people which are power hungry

An aggressive track record
Reply to  Some police reform would be nice
June 14, 2020 2:25 am

An aggressive track record is not necessarily a bad thing. Someone who wants to protect the community should be aggressive. Maybe his record simply shows that he cared about his job, and that’s why he attracted complaints from criminals.

Bottom line
June 12, 2020 12:42 pm

Good people are good and bad people are bad. What does any of this have to do with skin color?

I went to the March
June 12, 2020 12:48 pm

Did not read the article but I will say this – the March was a kiddush Hashem. Nearly every black person was appreciative that we were showing solidarity with them. Regardless of who is more respinsible in the grand scheme of how racism plays out – we can contribute in some way and try to do better. And for the record – I speak out louder when anti-Semitism is on the rise so don’t try to pull that question out. Were there some slogans being shouted that I didn’t agree with? Yes. So I didn’t say them. On the whole… Read more »

what???
Reply to  I went to the March
June 12, 2020 2:54 pm

you went to the march that was shouting slogan you didn’t agree with? you voluntarily were a part of the crowd that was saying the wrong things? and you call this Kiddush Hashem?????

Yasher koach
Reply to  I went to the March
June 13, 2020 7:54 am

Thank you very much for going to the March and doing something positive. There is a lot of pain in our community and in the black community. This was one step to help alleviate some of the pain. Yasher koach!

Why are you marching for the black Jews?
Reply to  I went to the March
June 14, 2020 2:31 am

They are in no danger from the police because they’re not criminals. They have nothing at all in common with George Floyd, let alone with the vicious criminals like Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. They don’t need anyone to march for them.

And this was NOT a kidush hashem. On the contrary, pandering to the worst of the goyim’s demands is a chilul hashem. Kidush hashem means standing up for what’s right DESPITE what the goyim demand.

We Need MORE of this - u'miklal hein atoh shome'a.
June 12, 2020 1:22 pm
how can you use such a word
June 12, 2020 2:07 pm

how dare you use the word “tahalucha” something that was very important to the rebbe on such an anti-Jewish thing like social justice

Nice but..
June 12, 2020 2:13 pm

A Jew was stabbed nearby recently, why did noone march for him.
A Jew was stabbed in London today, noone even mentioned him.
It is nice to support others, where is the support for them?

but
Reply to  Nice but..
June 14, 2020 3:49 pm

Of course people mentioned him. But violence is not our way, we dont use violence and protest for this. What we do is DAVEN and say Tehillim (can everyone please do that). Thats what actually helps. The only one who can really change things, is Hashem. So can we please all say Tehillim and Daven for Moshiach? im sure that would be something Hashem and the Rebbe would be proud of.. Thanks. Moshiach now! Ad mosai?

Halacha
June 12, 2020 2:18 pm

Did you have the Haskama of Rabonim Baalei Halacha, and Mashpyim,

How are you uniting with? Always (not almost always) look at the end result to see what the initial intent is. all these rallies lead to free palestine, etc.

OOH! A community organizer has gotten to you!
June 12, 2020 2:42 pm

Vey iz mir! I was one of those community organizers by profession (a full time job!) in the 1980s — trained by some of the same people who trained Barack Obama a few years later! I was steeped in Saul Alinsky, the “400 years” rewriting of history, etc., as you so clearly are. I know you mean well, as do many of your fellow organizers and organizees. The worldview you speak of is not so different now than it used to be, I see, as I do keep up with what’s going on in the community organizing/social change profession, out… Read more »

Liberal
June 12, 2020 4:44 pm

It’s nice that thei4 open minded, but there’s no comparison at all. This black,person and bedsides 8 others in the last 12-18 months had NOTHING to,do with racsim, it was a BAD COP. When someone believes in a issue,( let’s say racism) you can’t pick and choose. Racism isn’t only for Black people, it counts towards Jews, Latinos,etc. .when jews we’re getting beat up and murdered daily this past winter for 4 months, where did all these fake people that cry now blm( which is a total,scam) march for Jews rights??? A matter of fact it was racist blacks doing… Read more »

George Floyd
June 12, 2020 4:50 pm

Just making sure you know. He was a career criminal.

***** lives matter. All Lives matter
June 13, 2020 2:50 pm

I didn’t see or hear from you, when R”L we have massacre in Monsey, and a yid was killed .I guess you were busy thinking about you neighbors, who don’t care about you or any other yid.
Where were you when your nice neighbors punched out another yid. Please it should be both ways , you care for them and they care for you. You want to stop racism . OK ,Tell them if , they stop calling me white or jew and I won’t call them black .

Courage & Grace.
June 13, 2020 4:30 pm

Dear Ephraim, I salute you for your actions, and in your standing by your values—to stand in the hardships of others who are in pain. The many commentators reflect our diverse characters we have among us. Diversity is in our DNA, and clearly this can be assumed true to the community. For people who wish to live their lives limiting their human resources-such as love, kindness, respect, sensitivity, compassion etc. there will be limited resources coming around. Best not to think it’ll only be reserved for those closest—this kind of limited thinking costs significantly in human currency where we are… Read more »

What a load of garbage
June 14, 2020 1:15 am

This is all lies and anti-Torah. I don’t even know where to start, but just a few major points. 1. “Imagine a shtetel, blah blah blah.” No, I can’t imagine your fantastic conversation, because it would never have happened. This is not how Jews ever reacted, or ever would react. You’re just taking the whining lies of black activists today, and putting Jewish names on it, but this story could only ever be told by black activists today, because the whole narrative is theirs alone. 2. Slavery. First of all, nobody today is in any way responsible for slavery. Nobody… Read more »

A 7 mitzvos court would have executed Floyd
June 14, 2020 1:21 am

If we had courts as the 7 mitzvos require, George Floyd would have been executed the first time he was convicted of armed robbery. He would not have been around to commit the robbery where he stuck a gun in a pregnant woman’s belly, or any of the others. Consider that.

Jewish protest
June 14, 2020 1:36 am

I think a lot of people are forgetting here that when there were so many attacks against the Jews, there WAS a protest. It was a huge solidarity march, and tons of non Jews came to support.

We do NOT expect others to march for us
June 14, 2020 2:35 am

The whole idea that we blame others for not standing up for us, so we should stand up for them is nonsense. It’s an assimilated Jews’ fantasy. There is no history of us getting upset because others did not stand up for us. So long as they did not join in persecuting us we never expected them to protest our mistreatment. It was none of their business so why should they? It’s only now that people have started saying the Pope should have spoken out, this one and that one should have spoken out, etc. That’s a very ahistorical perspective.

your reasoning and good intentions are irrelevant.
June 14, 2020 6:55 am

are you a rov? a manhig? who are you to sign on to a goysihe movement? how do you know its the Torahdike thing to do? Shov val taseh would have been better. you probably made a chillul Hashem and did something ossur. Jews in golus aren’t supposed to be revolutionaries, nor should be be on their side. On the contrary, we are to be loyal to the country’s leader and his emissaries sent to keep seder (which historically, has always been to the Jews’ benefit, unlike revolutionaries and theis hatzlocho). These people are rebelling against the POTUS and saying… Read more »

Just a photo-opt
June 14, 2020 8:49 am

This march was nothing more than propaganda show. It was just a way for a group of people to feel self important. This article only proved it more. The author is an NP, let fails to understand that healthcare is one of the biggest offenders in systemic racism. Also, I love how everyone conveniently forgets that, other than the border states, Blacks in the Union were free. They fought and died during the Civil War, to help defeat the Confederacy and end slavery.

The Moment BLM are anti-Semitic
June 15, 2020 3:12 pm

Black lives matter is anti-Semitic.
all the things that black lives are fighting for are for the black people Besides one which states that the destruction of Israel. My friend this is not about justice, Justice was served almost straight away when the police were arrested. this is about the destruction of justice

The Movement BLM are anti-Semitic
June 15, 2020 3:13 pm

rachmonus

BLM GROUP ARE DEFINITELY ANTI-SEMITIC
June 18, 2020 11:15 am

I wonder why the people that marched in demonstration for black rights are not marching and demonstrating aggressively for Jewish lives. Frum people are being specifically targeted by the blacks and beaten or worse. No one marched in protest when a black thug came into Rabbi Rotenberg’s home in Monsey on Chanukah with a machete and injured several and one eventually passed away after being in a coma for months. You think blacks are not treated equally??? I guess then you approve of all the destruction they are causing, without accountability. Why don’t the whites try it and see what… Read more »

Disappointed
June 20, 2020 5:01 pm

As usual, it’s sad to check out the comments section which seems to have missed the point of the article. 1. The author didn’t condone rioting. The author didn’t ask you to condone rioting. And the *vast* majority of protestors are peaceful. 2. “George Floyd was a criminal” – So he deserved to die at the hands of the police? What planet are you from? 3. “BLM is antisemitic” – The protests aren’t organized by the official “BLM” organization. And the protestors aren’t there to support an organization. They only thing they share in common is their belief that Black… Read more »

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