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This was after the extraordinary emphasis the Rebbe gave to publicizing the coming of the Moshiach and the final redemption in a Sicha on 27 Nissan 5751.
A group of women went on Mivtzoim to in shopping malls in Brooklyn to promote kashrus in coordination with Lubavitch Youth Organization (Tzach).
Upon their return, they wrote the Rebbe a report of their activity and included a photo their booth adorned with a hand-written slogan “Longing for Moshiach will bring him here today.”
The Rebbe replied with a small note, comprising of three words in both Hebrew and English: “Instead Today – Sooner.”
And now we are left wondering did the Rebbe mean that Moshiach can come sooner then just today or that saying that Moshiach will come today could not be a promise but rather a hope?
I agree, divrei TZADIKIM kayomim load, the words the Tzadikim said, not the meshugaassen that you and others CLAIM the Rebbe said.
The Rebbe didn’t say any nevua that Shabbos, and I challenge you now for the third time: Explain what you think/claim the Rebbe said in that so-called nevua????
yes its been 20 years but ,
DIVREI ZTADIKIM KAYMIM LUAD!!!!!!!!!!!
The second explanation is obviously the correct one.
If one knows the exact date, for example, and that is for sure, what the time and space would be fulfilled with in meantime?
could you explain what you wrote, what that means, or could you only ramble? there is not one word about gag beis hamikdash or anovim higia zman geulaschem in the entire sicha of shoftim 5751, and in any case: what is the nevua??? that what will happen??? when will it happen??? what are you talking about??? The Rebbe didn’t say no nevua that shabbos, or on any shabbos about Moshiach or the Geulah. This is fact. Some chassidim dreamt up some meshugaas, and they can’t even explain in simple words what they claim is that so-called nevua the Rebbe said.… Read more »
u r a genious
Every one is now koching in Moshiach!!
Yes, when I first saw it, didn’t quite get the meaning of the Rebbe’s correction/comment,
but #6 is right, I think that’s the meaning.
Its also interesting, what and how people can translate it how they like, to their own prethought ideas.
btw, this is what the Rebbe told to the cnn/NYT reporter.
As a side note,
Thnx COL, you finaly got an article people to give comments on THE REBBES’ TORAH!!
-Keep it up. and continued success in this detail.
Shana Tova
maybe he means… now? not just today – sooner- now!!
So when he was smiling and clapping his hands during the rest of the song means he wasn’t goires it? Did you see the video where Rabbi JJ Hecht was teaching the words? The Rebbe wasn’t goires?
The prophecy the Rebbe shared with us has to do with Moshiach “oimed al gag beis hamikdash” (with the Rebbe’s explanation of what constitutes gag beis hamikdash) and annoucing “anovim highiah zman geulaschem”. It has nothing to do with whatever other explanations you included in your post to disprove the nevuah.
You dont know how to read?
The Rebbe changed from “Today” to “Sooner”!
Not the other way around
Wherd u learn how to spell?
nice to see for once on a lubavitcher website were disscussing the rebbe rather than the other garbage people speak usually!
What is so complicated ?? I’m certain that the Rebbe wrote an answer to someone who wrote about Moshiach coming SOONER and the Rebbe says simply, TODAY במקום SOONER… As simple as that.
100% right
thank you 🙂
you wrote in your comment: “even in the prophesy of the rebbe in parshat shoftim the rebbe did not give a “day” may he moshiach comm now amen” you are talking about the Rebbe’s “prophecy” and telling us that the Rebbe didn’t give a day. ok, so what is the Rebbe’s “prophecy” of parshas shoftim that you take for granted the Rebbe said a prophecy that shabbos? That Moshiach will come one day? That’s nothing new, that was already written in Tanach. So the prophecy is that Moshiach will come “soon”. Ok, what does that mean, when is soon? No… Read more »
you cannot promise something that doesn’t fully depend on you, so if that sign would say today, wouldn’t be correct.
FYI
The Rebbe always started the song with “We want Moshiach NOW” and was not goires the rest of the song.
It’s not so comPlicated, the rebbe wanted the inyan of moshach to be boifan hamiskabe.l when you read a sign that’s says do this, and moshoach will come today it gives off a very suddle, and hockes pokes type of message, on the other hand, moshoach will come sooner is the same message, just in a softer, lighter, more suddle way ( the definition of oifen hamiskabel).
Notice TODAY in capital letters and “sooner” in lowercase, even script letters, indicating the need to change the font, italicize, the word “sooner” to make it pop more.
Benveniste,Tsfat.
If he meant that is should be sooner than today, why “bimkom” – replace today. He sould’ve just added “and sooner”.
Because one might say “look, i longed for Moshiach and he didn’t come today!”.
Gut gezogt. Sometimes all it takes is taking a step back and seeing the Rebbe’s practicality in context. Thanks for the simple but obvious meaning. This is no “pshetle” as perhaps I got pulled into thinking, it is quite literal, obvious, and clear.
Just how “krum” does one have to be to be “left wondering” what the Rebbe meant here”? OK, here goes for the slow-minded – the Rebbe instructed them to ALTER the sign to say “sooner” instead of “today”. The sign would then read, “Longing for Moshiach will bring him here sooner.” In other words, the reader was meant to understand that longing for Moshiach will hasten his coming, instead of making a concrete promise or prediction that it would happen “today” as the unedited sign implied.
sufek b’gematria amalek
According to what you are saying words have no meaning.
I agree that if you don’t feel qualified or capable of analyzing things then you shouldn’t, but don’t impose that upon others who may indeed have the ability and intelect.
we cant just long we have to take action
I’m sure many will comment and give commentary, so here’s my understanding for what it’s worth. In the “Ani Maamin” we say “Achake Lo Bchol Yom Sheyavo” which the Rebbe emphasized means “I await his coming all day long.” rather than the common meaning “I await his coming every day.” In other words, perhaps the Rebbe is teaching us that we should not be content with the notion that Moshiach will come Today, i.e. sometime before tomorrow; rather, that he will come even sooner than the end of the day. There were times where at the end of a farbrengen… Read more »
The word sooner has no implication that it is immediate rather it is a relative measurement, saying that compared to x it is sooner and the Rebbe being quite literate and his words chosen meticulously it is hard to assume that the Rebbe was implying that it will be sooner than (just) today since those words don’t imply that at all, therefore leaving us with no other option than the latter.
Longing for Moshiach will bring him here sooner.
Without consciously longing {Achakeh} it will
take longer for
him to come.
Let’s not distort this and attempt to clarify the Rebbe’s words for him.
The Rebbe encouraged the singing of the song “Am Yisroel have no fear… ” with the words “Moshiach will be here this year.” So I understand it as that the Rebbe had his reasons for each particular situation and doesn’t need us to philosophize or darshan according to our understanding.
Thank G-d for COL and all of life’s answers.
surly the rebbe meant to say ,we cant promise that longing for moshiach will bring him today, for then the world will come and say the rebbe promised and he did not come. no person in the world ever promised a date, even when moshiach told rebbi yehoshuah ben levi”hayom ” today ” elyahu hanovi explained that what moshiach really went was “if in my voice you will listen” in the 13 principles of faith it’s ” i will await his coming ” even in the prophesy of the rebbe in parshat shoftim the rebbe did not give a “day”… Read more »