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Trust Should Be a Given to Our Summer Camps

From the COLlive inbox: "Past op-eds this time of the year questioned trusting young counselors in summer camps with our children's care. As a parent and someone who's sent kids to Gan Yisroel, I believe it's time to reframe the discussion." Full Story

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Please don’t allow staff to have phones
May 17, 2025 9:59 pm

We pay for camp. And our children deserve present staff, those that are there for them fully and good role models. We also don’t have to worry what they are showing our children on their devices.

That’s not how it works
Reply to  Please don’t allow staff to have phones
May 17, 2025 11:22 pm

Which 18 year old is willing to go the whole summer without a phone for a few bucks? They don’t show the campers stuff on their phones and are not supposed to use it in front of campers unless needed

If it were that way...
Reply to  That’s not how it works
May 18, 2025 8:59 am

If it would actually be that way, then fine, but in reality, many counselors let their campers have free rein over their phones as long as there is no head staff or Hanhala around.
In addition, there are always the relatives of staff who can use their cousins’/sisters’/aunts’ phone “for just a minute”,

Phones add safety
Reply to  Please don’t allow staff to have phones
May 18, 2025 1:32 am

I agree that it would be nice to not have any bad influence in camp coming from staff and their phones but banning phone isn’t the solution as staff need phones for safety reasons, but they definitely should not be using it for entertainment purposes with/in front of the campers

I went to visit a (big known)camp on visiting day
Reply to  Phones add safety
May 18, 2025 6:24 pm

Why do they need phones for safety? Especially on camp grounds? And fyi crimes happen to people with phones everyday. Chances of phones being unsafe 100- chance of being part of an unsafe situation a few percent.

Agree on the Last sentence
May 17, 2025 10:02 pm

“In the Rebbe’s camp, trust should be a given. Let’s make sure our children feel that from us first.” However if trust is not being given at home where the heart is then how do you expect it to be given in camp? Trust starts at home. The women build their home. She is the ekeres habayis. If there is no trust from her, that spreads to the environment including camp. So to me it’s not even a camp issue, it’s more a trust issue which is happening all year around. It’s easier to blame camp because your child is… Read more »

There should be very clear and enforced
May 17, 2025 10:03 pm

Rules and guidelines for staff. I have been involved with many programs and have not seen a major vetting process. Especially in regular overnight camps.

I went to visit a (big known)camp on visiting day
May 17, 2025 10:06 pm

Half the staff were sitting around camp grounds scrolling , some were watching videos with kids , others were talking on the phone to people not in camp. Not the poor kids who were sad that they didn’t have visitors. In theory trust is good. In reality especially in 2025 without rules for staff. Especially in regards to devices , I’m not so sure.

Shliach
May 17, 2025 10:10 pm

Constantly repeating the Rebbe’s name doesn’t add to the discussion.
The question remains, are people doing their job correctly? Are they choosing the cheapest, easiest option as counselors? Are they on top of them? The boys may be Chassidim in training, but right now they are teenagers, known in Ivrit as גיל הטפש-עשרה, when their decision making part of their brain is not fully formed yet. Is there a way to ensure that they have a גדול עומד על גביהם? That is all. The Yetzer Hara didn’t forget about Chassidim, in training or not.

Agree
Reply to  Shliach
May 17, 2025 10:44 pm

When school choose to be cheap on staff and expensive on fancy trips and unnecesary things merchandise trips etc, then you lose the whole point, and “give it” to something else

Yes!
Reply to  Agree
May 18, 2025 9:21 am

This!!!!

Agree
Reply to  Shliach
May 17, 2025 11:09 pm

When school choose to be cheap on staff and expensive on fancy trips and unnecesary things merchandise trips etc, then you lose the whole point, and “give it” to something else

And yet
Reply to  Shliach
May 18, 2025 2:32 am

And yet this is what the Rebbe wanted. The Rebbe so much approved of this camp system.

Time for more support
May 17, 2025 10:35 pm

while its a nice idea to believe that the young counselors are wonderful, kind and care and mature enough to deal with campers, we need to be realistic. MANY are not equipped to deal with the issues many kids/campers are facing. The counselors need training before the camp and guidance during the camp. This is not only for their benefit but for the campers benefit as well. Many issues can be dealt with swiftly and with kindness but if the young counselors have no training or guidance from adults the camp itself then where does that leave them. The responsibility… Read more »

100%
Reply to  Time for more support
May 18, 2025 10:30 am

you said it right

Camps nowadays
May 17, 2025 10:40 pm

Feels like a corporate shade of what they were intended to, same to some schools. A new business idea.
Regardless, the idea of “tossing” your kids so you can live life for 2 months sounds wild to me, between school full days on sundays and late school programs, it’s very little time to spend with your own kids.

Trust is earned
May 17, 2025 10:49 pm

Dont shlep the Rebbe into it. When camps hire staff that are young, irresponsible and immature, what do you expect? Is all staff this way? No of course not. But the worries of the parents is not coming from nowhere

Raise Girls To Be Staff In Lubavitcher Camps
May 17, 2025 11:12 pm

Lubavitch camps, as a whole, strive to hire good, capable, mature, and responsible staff—young women with chassidishe values and refined midos. However, a growing issue in girls’ high schools and seminaries is that many of the most suitable girls are no longer interested in going to Lubavitch overnight camps. Instead, they often prefer working in local day camps, which offer less responsibility and more free time. Many girls today seek higher pay and seem to feel a strong sense of entitlement. This raises an important question: Are parents and schools instilling in their children and students a genuine appreciation for… Read more »

Professional Staff
May 17, 2025 11:21 pm

Camps outside Lubavitch have experienced married staff who come back yearly. They live there during the summer months as well as a social worker who comes at least 3 times a week to advise.

Young adults can’t be held responsible to supervise a camp of 300-400 campers without adult and professional supervision.

CGI United has a few married staff and Chayolei hired a few couples as well. That will definitely help the parents trust the camp.

Is that really the standard for trustworthiness?
Reply to  Professional Staff
May 18, 2025 4:09 am

So a person is trustworthy based on whether they have a ring?
I think its a matter of age and maturity, not whether your marital status meets society’s standards

Was waiting for this
Reply to  Professional Staff
May 18, 2025 9:27 am

Too many time Lubavitch thinks they’re doing the absolute best and don’t think to look over at others to see what we can learn from them.

Too many lives have been shattered simply by not having what is described by the comment above.

Tzeirei Hatmimim leads the way
Reply to  Professional Staff
May 18, 2025 7:50 pm

Rabbi klyne and wolf camp has married teachers and 770 age counselors. The difference is so clear.

not true some adults are not meant to be mehaneh
Reply to  Professional Staff
May 18, 2025 10:53 pm

not true some adults are not meant to be mehaneh,they dont like what they are doing and have there own family on the site adding some stress or struggle …

Not all camps are the same
Reply to  Professional Staff
May 19, 2025 1:02 am

Many camps don’t have the ability or can’t afford to hire a team of married staff. To pay for such a thing, camp tuition would go up significantly.

No camp is solely run by bochurim or sem girls, there are directors and educators that guide and over see what goes on.

We underestimate the counslers
May 17, 2025 11:22 pm

Most counslers are boys and girls that have so so much to give!

Naïveté at its best
May 17, 2025 11:40 pm

Cheap immature untrained labor

Bc your kid davens nicer after a summer doesn’t excuse all the rest.

Time has come for change

The only camps still run by kids are in Lubavitch – major money saver.

Time to hire adults to supervise the kids who watch the kids.

Ya not gonna happen
Reply to  Naïveté at its best
May 18, 2025 1:09 am

Sorry fam

Bro
Reply to  Naïveté at its best
May 21, 2025 10:39 pm

Heck no it’s supposed to be fun for the campers- counselors need to be young they need to relate at least a bit either way the campers and counselors need that youthfulness to them not 40 year old married women or men. Also not to mention there could be some issues with 40 year old men sleeping in the same room as little boys or even with women. It’s just weird and camp isnt supposed to be like that.

U DONT KNOW
May 18, 2025 1:00 am

Everyone I love how this article has so much comments and everything but personally knowing a lot of girls in Chabad camp counselors there are counselors that cherish and love and give good and chassidishkiet to the campers
Amennnn Ty and iyh it will continue

Cheap labor
May 18, 2025 1:59 am

How can you expect a bochur to be fully involved for two months when he’s treated like cheap expendable labor with no one to care about him?

Labor
Reply to  Cheap labor
May 19, 2025 12:57 am

Bh many camps have older staff members dedicated to providing and helping younger staff members. Staff are treated with dignity and are respected for everything they do.

Camps invest a lot of time, money and effort into their staff and are very much appreciated.

The Rebbe's camp?
May 18, 2025 2:54 am

If you want to call it the Rebbe’s camp then act in the way the Rebbe wants, which includes taking the Rebbe’s children. And not just the one’s that are easier for you to have in camp.
Are you the Rebbe’s camp, or not???

Considerations
Reply to  The Rebbe's camp?
May 19, 2025 12:54 am

Not all children are fit for camp and not all camps are fit for all children.

A parent needs to know their child and decide if camp is the right setting for them (or which camp), and a camp needs to know what they capable of handling (and what services they can provide) without it being on the expense of other campers.

They handle what they prefer to handle
Reply to  Considerations
May 21, 2025 1:48 am

not what they can’t

it used to be different

if it was their kids, they would be in camp as a camper

if it was their kids, they would be your kids counselors

it all depends what’s convenient for them

Most counselors
May 18, 2025 3:04 am

Most counselors are truly well-meaning and hard-working, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t need guidance, and that they don’t need to be supported if there is a child that needs extra TLC. And the answer is not to not have the kid in camp so that the well-meaning but not necessarily well trained or well supported counselor can be a counselor. Then there are some counselors that even with support should not be counselors. They are surely wonderful people with other capabilities, but if they can’t be a counselor in ways that are needed, that should do something that… Read more »

Pay is too low
May 18, 2025 8:41 am

When you pay the counselors 50 dollars a week you can’t expect to be getting high trained adults. The camps are getting what they pay for and that’s where the issue starts. Also kids don’t want adults as their counselors, that would totally alter the atmosphere probably not for the positive.

Shocking
Reply to  Pay is too low
May 18, 2025 9:59 am

50 a week? Realy??
How much it costs a week for the parent?

Actually no
Reply to  Shocking
May 18, 2025 12:35 pm

It’s actually less than $50 a week. Most bochurim walk out of camp with about $250 for the whole summer

Bochrum
Reply to  Actually no
May 18, 2025 9:34 pm

Boys camps

Cgi
Reply to  Shocking
May 18, 2025 9:34 pm

This is for a reg cgi sleep away pages more but depends on which some pay really well and I’m happy!

Paying staff
Reply to  Pay is too low
May 19, 2025 12:51 am

Not all camps are raking in the cash. Many camps need to fundraise to keep the camp afloat.
Paying counselors a fair amount is a must, however if you expect camps to pay the staff top dollar, camp tuition will go up as a result.

There are many expenses running a camp, especially with pricing nowadays.

Communications
May 18, 2025 10:24 am

This might not be directly related, but campers should be able to have phones or at least some other sort of communication besides letter. This notion of calling once a week is fine, but give them other communication during the week!

Will it work
Reply to  Communications
May 18, 2025 9:34 pm

Will not work in this setting

Dedicated mother
May 18, 2025 11:26 am

If you send ur kid to a high standard camp there are usually high standard staff…

Yes!
Reply to  Dedicated mother
May 18, 2025 12:09 pm

So true!!

Agreed!!
Reply to  Dedicated mother
May 18, 2025 12:10 pm

Agreed 100%

The camps that are more popular
Reply to  Dedicated mother
May 18, 2025 3:08 pm

Are not necessarily because they have higher standards in their counselors

okay.
May 18, 2025 7:26 pm

everyone has such smart things to say. but listen up. no one is forcing you to send your child to camp. its 100% a decision that is only yours to make. of course no where is perfect and there may be things that upset you, but remember that everyone is trying there best- no one is intentionally giving your child a bad experience. the high school girls and yeshiva boys are almost always loving, caring, involved. they are there to give your child the best, chassidishe, fun camp experience. Keep that in mind. Don’t get upset that things don’t go… Read more »

Agree
Reply to  okay.
May 18, 2025 9:35 pm

And iyh it kid will have a blast with the most and best chassidishe counselors!!

many kids are not going to the camps
May 18, 2025 10:49 pm

Many kids are not going to the Summer camps – they are too expensive. Yes, even OK this year put on the wationg list. How to afford all if you are not making big parnosah? let’s start with this… then how to build a trust

Best counselors
May 19, 2025 9:18 am

My kids summers were more productive and positive than any year in yeshiva. Yes there may have been a few hiccups but they had counselors who were warm and inspiring and dedicated to their campers!! These young men and women treated the kids with kindness and compassion way beyond what we could imagined. Many years my kids would wonder why a rebbe in yeshiva couldn’t have as big a heart. It’s not just age. Let’s stop bashing. And the counselors may allow a kid to play a video game on a device (not so different than what other boys with… Read more »

What do the camp directors have to say?
May 19, 2025 10:33 am

I would like to see a camp director speak about what are their expectations for counselors who are responsible for bunks of campers and yet our paid 50 dollars weekly to do so while the parents on average pay 750 weekly ot house their kids. What are the expecataions on both sides? Furthermore, great point made by non lubavitch camps have married staff coming back yearly. Agudah, Romemu, ect..

LOVE THIS ARTICLE!!!
May 19, 2025 12:03 pm

Thank you for putting faith into our bochurim and teenagers! They are incredible shluchim who understand their task so clearly!

commendable staff
May 20, 2025 1:08 am

I remember a visiting shaliach from England speaking to a group of our teachers many years ago. One of the comments he made resonated with me to the point that I still remember it today.. He told of a friend of his, not a Lubavitcher, who was involved in hiring the teaching staff in a respected girls’ school, one not affiliated with any Chassidic movement. This gentleman told the shaliach that he would quicker hire a young, less experienced Lubavitcher applicant for a teaching position than a far more experienced applicant who was not a Lubavitcher. The reason? The love… Read more »

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