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From the COLlive inbox: A rabbi told me that it was ok to lie about my age to help me find a shidduch. I can't stomach the thought... Full Story

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Agree
July 24, 2019 10:04 pm

Fully.

So true
July 24, 2019 10:05 pm

This is so true! I had a shidduch refuse me after agreeing to meet, after someone told him i was 1 year older.
The rebbes wife was 1 year older than the rebbe

Agree
July 24, 2019 10:08 pm

Firstly, the Rebbetzin was older than the Rebbe. Secondly, when we’re all adults then what is a few years (even), this way or that. If you’re immature perhaps it won’t work. If you’re mature enough to think “out of the box” – what’s the problem. HOW MANY shidduchim of suitable people are not going because of an inability, or call it lack of maturity – to “THINK OUT OF THE BOX”. And this type of thinking refers to PARENTS and believe it of not – it refers to the SHADCHANNIM who cannot see something working and sometimes might refrain from… Read more »

Couldn't agree more
July 24, 2019 10:31 pm

Guys should stop looking at the age. The age shouldn’t stop a younger guy from going out with an older girl.

Yossel
July 24, 2019 10:33 pm

There is nothing wrong with the girl being even 5 years older than the boy! Old age homes are full of widows (women), because women live longer than men! If you want the chance to live together without spending so much time alone, find a girl a few years older and you’ll be happy!

Age is a badge of honor!
July 24, 2019 10:38 pm

As a single girl several years older than the author, this is not the issue that bothers me. I have earned my age at least as much as my married peers, and it frustrates me when I’m taken less seriously than others my age (or younger!). As far as shidduch suggestions, I know they are few and far between, but I am where I am and need to trust the aibishter to bring the right one. The last thing I need is to discount my own hard earned age and experience and chase after guys who aren’t quite there yet.… Read more »

Age difference
Reply to  Age is a badge of honor!
July 28, 2019 7:11 am

Very well put,

Personal suggestion
July 24, 2019 11:05 pm

I’m your age so I’ll usually say – I am around such and such age or I’ll say I’m looking for a brochur around such and such age. Bracha vhatzlacha! The right one in the right time will see you for who you are and not your “shoe size” lol!

I get it
July 24, 2019 11:24 pm

I was like you: I looked and acted much younger than my 30 years. The shadchan lied to my husband about my age (saying I was 24) even though I told her never to do it. I was furious when I learned it after a few dates. But if she had told the truth, my husband later said, he never would have been willing to meet me. (He is about 2 years younger.) By the time he found out, it didn’t matter to him any more. I may have hated what the shadchan did, but the result was a beautiful… Read more »

Agreed
Reply to  I get it
July 25, 2019 7:05 pm

My Aunt Clara was seven years older than her husband. She married in her thirties and had two kids as was the custom. Great marriage. He didn’t learn her age until she started collecting Social Security!

Your cheer leader
July 24, 2019 11:45 pm

Two of my siblings are in marriages that the girl is at least 1 yr older than the boy. They are all happily married. Hope people can look past the age and look at the person themself.

Stigmas
July 24, 2019 11:45 pm

Unfortunately many people are still silly about many aspects of shidduchum in this community
one example is age
A Shidduch is finding a match some people just have not found that person yet.

I know many “interesting” people who get married at a young age and they would not get the same judgement that a very put together older boy or girl would get

your age is of no significance towards your abilities in being married and who knows why a person is not married yet.

I am totally with you on this and wish you all the success

Very true!’
July 24, 2019 11:55 pm

How old are you right now if I may ask??
I might have a Shidduch for u

Re: how old are you?
Reply to  Very true!’
July 25, 2019 10:07 am

Who is this in response to?

Resume
Reply to  Very true!’
July 25, 2019 1:59 pm

Please Send a resume

2-3 years maybe ...
July 25, 2019 12:38 am

So based on your story you are looking to marry someone who is 5-10 years younger then you? I don’t think it’s a good idea in a long run unless you are so on the same page and ready to deal with age differences in 20 years from now…..
I would suggest you to shop mature guys and around your age plus minus 2-3 Years 30-45 …not 23-27…

Why
Reply to  2-3 years maybe ...
July 25, 2019 9:13 am

Why do you suggest she marry someone up to 12 years older, but to stay away from someone 6 years younger?

May he be found safe and quick
Reply to  Why
July 25, 2019 11:14 am

i would not suggest to marry 10 years older both ways, its different generations, different mentality and in older life different physical needs, when she will be in her 60 and he in his 40’s – it’s like a bubby with a son,hard for women to be constantly young…i think she need to date her age,plus minus 2-3 years not more and be more flexible, not looking for a prince or perfect guy in all aspects but looking for a PARTNER to live with…it is hard at 33 to find a boy or a girl, because the list of his/her… Read more »

To the author, strength to you!
July 25, 2019 1:07 am

The people who stop talking to you or cease thinking of a match for you because of your age are completely out of your depth. So don’t worry – they are simply not the right channel for your shidduch. G-d is the matchmaker! Time is a human construct, and life is not measured by age or years, but by how deeply you have lived. You are living and maximizing your soul – what a glorious thing. Our very own Rebbe & Rebbetzin married at an age our community would have labeled “older”. It’s not without reason that our world is… Read more »

Big turn off
July 25, 2019 2:40 am

I once dated a girl and i really liked her. On the third date she told me she was two years older than she mentioned earlier. I asked her why she lied at first and she said “her Rabbi told her she could”. Honoslty, I think i would have still dated her if I knew in the beggining. It went down hill from that point. I wondered, “how could I build a home with someone I cant trust 100%”. I know her Rabbi said but, Im sure there are a lot of situations that a Rabbi would allow a person… Read more »

שפיגל ירושלים
July 25, 2019 6:29 am

Never lie.Shame on the Rabbi for saying so.Lies and stealing are wrong.no excuse

Very well iterated!
July 25, 2019 6:58 am

Especially the shadchan shouldn’t be the one to auto reject. If it looked right earlier on in the conversation, they should go ahead and suggest them and let the other side make the choice. A potential match should’t be quick to decline either when there would otherwise be what to talk about. And always, ALWAYS consult a personal Mashpia, because it’s important to view the bigger picture through the eyes of a third person who knows you well can sees the bigger picture

Truth
July 25, 2019 8:38 am

When someone lies about one thing, age, height, job, health, it makes you wonder what else they haven’t been honest about.

Truth
July 25, 2019 8:40 am

When someone lies about one thing, age, height, job, health in reference to a shidduch, it makes the other party wonder what else they haven’t been honest about.

Agree 💯 percent
Reply to  Truth
July 25, 2019 10:57 am

So true! It can ruin a marriage if people find out things after.. You must build a marriage on honesty and trust!!

ch resident
July 25, 2019 8:42 am

it would be nice if there could be shadchanim just for the older singles. Maybe it would help them to find shidduchim more easily because these shadchanim will only specialize with older singles

Brooklyn fellow
July 25, 2019 9:02 am

There are so many single older guys and girls out there,what’s the problem. The guys say there are no girls and the girls say there are no guys. As far as age some people don’t count shabbos and Yom tov and thus come across younger. Maybe some of the commentaries here can link up and make a shidduch. I find the ones who have an easier time getting married is when parents and families push them to get married. Otherwise I know guys in their forties and fifties who are multi millionaires and sincerely frum,yet hardly date. They don’t have… Read more »

Some thoughts on Age
July 25, 2019 9:58 am

Age is a very sensitive topic, as many many like you suffer from being turned down because of it. Age is not just a number, men equate age with ability to have a large family. Simply stating that men shouldn’t get stuck on a number doesn’t accurately or fairly represent the male view. Lying about age somewhat removes Hashem from the equation. The heter for shalom bayis starts once there is an existing marriage. Being rejected multiple times and waiting for the right person is more than painful. I bless you and others in your predicament to find your zivug… Read more »

Very frustrating
July 25, 2019 12:40 pm

I’m sorry that your experience has been so difficult. However, lying about your age would be an even bigger turn off than your age. And honestly, I don’t think your age is a turn off. It’s teally such a small factor in the long run. Even if you were 4-5 years older, the older couples get, the less it matters. My grandparents were 6 years apart, granted he was older, but whoever you are meant to marry won’t care about your age as much as your middos and chemistry. My experience is that a lot of the shaddchanus business can… Read more »

Completely agree
July 25, 2019 2:27 pm

I am 31 and the same thing happens to me. Everyone thinks I am much younger, and are shocked by my age. The last guy I went out with, even made a comment on how young I look. Ironically, he was quite a bit older than me. More than one Shadchan suggested I lie on my profile. To which I answered, relationships are built on trust. If you lie about something as superficial as she, what else are you lying to your partner about? Your spouse would have reason to never trust you. Recently, a Shadchan claimed I was beyond… Read more »

Awful
Reply to  Completely agree
July 25, 2019 4:55 pm

What a terrible thing for someone to say to you, especially a shadchan!! As the Rebbe said to someone once whose doctor told him he had low chance of survival, doctors are given koach to heal, not the opposite.
So too shadchanim are supposed to be helping people get married and have no business telling anyone they’re a “lost cause”!!!

Shaddchan is wrong
Reply to  Completely agree
August 1, 2019 12:07 am

The shaddchan should be ashamed of themselves. That is completely wrong to say. There are many guys out there who wouldn’t care about you being above 30. Telling you that you are too short and too old is just not right.

age is not everything
July 25, 2019 5:04 pm

My wife is 3 years older than me. One of my friends was shocked when he found out (not through me) that I am dating someone older. We are married more than 2 decades and managed to raise a few fine kids BH.

Sorry not going:
July 25, 2019 9:19 pm

Well I can tell all of you this. I’m 22 years old, and I went out with a girl who was 26. She was nice and all but the gap was felt far and wide she was set in her ways and was uncompromising on almost everything that was important to me.

Guys just don’t go out with girls older then you it’s just trouble take it from someone with a little experience in this…

Case spacific
Reply to  Sorry not going:
July 25, 2019 9:38 pm

Each relationship has its own needs. This may have nothing to do with age

Sounds like the problem was a poor match
Reply to  Sorry not going:
July 25, 2019 11:21 pm

Which may have had nothing to do with age.

But really, do you honestly think that your one negative experience at the ripe old age of 22 qualifies you to warn all guys to never go out with someone older than themselves? That’s quite an achrayus you’re taking on there.

Response
Reply to  Sounds like the problem was a poor match
July 26, 2019 10:26 am

Both men and women get set in their ways they grew into as they get older, unless your very Flexible like myself. That being said, my experience dealing with girls who are older is that they are hard to deal with and unwilling to compromise mainly. People don’t realize that once girls get into that professional mode of life there is no going back and girls will never date downward. It’s just the way it works. Not a chance. That is why I am telling younger guys to stay away from older girls in general…

Goes both ways
July 26, 2019 9:13 am

I have many single friends in their mid thirties who refuse to go out with men in their 40/50s. It seems like theirs a large amount of singles across the board on both genders but more outside the box thinking is needed both by shadchans and the people going out on these dates.

Please read my thoughts
July 26, 2019 1:04 pm

I wana say sth and I sincerely hope the author of the article takes this personally (in a good way) and takes this to heart My friend, I am in a similar stage as you, older single, older older single, and I choose to look at things a bit differently… We need to accept the hashgacha pratis of the situation. That does not mean the situation will not change. But that means that the brochos we are waiting for will come to us through the specific people and details and circumstances that are all specifically directed by Hashem. No one… Read more »

Thank you
Reply to  Please read my thoughts
July 26, 2019 3:23 pm

For your thoughtful reply.

I may have a suggestion for you
July 30, 2019 11:10 am

Please what’s app me your resume or call me at 917-587-9491. Hatzlacha Rabba

a bracha
October 30, 2019 10:52 pm

Our daughter is 5 years older than her husband and they have a beautiful marriage and a beautiful family, baruch Hashem. It happened because our son-in-law and his mother are wise and mature.

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