By Esther
It was towards the end of Yom Tov, and I was tired but happy from helping out at the Chabad House in the town I was visiting with a friend.
We sat around shmoozing comfortably with the remaining community members who had stuck around this long. The Shlucha’s mother then came over looking excited and asked to speak with me privately for a moment.
She warmly commented on my middos, tznius and vibrancy. She asked me my last name and where my parents lived.
“And tell me,” she added, beaming, “How old are you?”
I told her my age and that’s where the story ends.
That’s where her face dropped and her excitement leaked away, surprise and disappointment taking its place.
“Oh, I thought you were much younger… I never would have guessed… you look so young!”
Thank you?
There was, of course, no shidduch suggestion following.
I’ve never been one to lie about my age or feel shame about having had the privilege of growing older. On the contrary – I understand and appreciate so much more about life and the world around me at 33 than I ever could have at 23. The challenges, joys, and tragedies I’ve experienced have shaped me into the person I am, and if I had the choice to turn back the clock I would very adamantly decline.
But the sinking feeling as soon as I hear those words -“How old are you?”- has been growing stronger each time it’s asked. Because I know the reactions that will follow my answer – startled, taken aback, disbelieving, apologetic. In almost all cases, a hasty withdrawal of the “great shidduch suggestion” that had been on the tip of their tongue moments before.
“How old are you?” – The mother sitting next to me at a wedding awkwardly stopped chatting with me after asking that, and instead struck up a conversation with her other seatmate.
“How old are you?” – The bochur across the Shabbos table looked shocked after overhearing my answer, and his flow of stories and anecdotes in my direction dried up.
“How old are you?” – The shadchan I met at a friend’s l’chaim lost her enthusiasm after getting that answer, said she “couldn’t really think of anyone right now…”
A rabbi told me to lie about my age. I couldn’t stomach the thought.
A friend told me to take my age off my shidduch resume. I argued that wouldn’t its absence just draw more attention to it?
“You’re not even getting a chance,” she told me. “Guys see your age straight away and dump the resume in the trash without ever looking further.”
With that, I couldn’t argue.
Look, I get that age gaps where the girl is more than a year older aren’t the norm. And I understand that for many bochurim there’s a deep-rooted desire to marry someone younger than themselves (just as many girls have a natural desire to marry older.)
But let’s be honest for a moment, could a relationship of trust, love, and respect with someone older not work? If you are compatible in maturity and other areas, does the date of birth on the driver’s license really relevant?
If a single bochur isn’t 100% sure it won’t work, it is time to stop auto-rejecting any suggestion that comes your way where the girl is older than you.
It is time to open up to the possibilities that life holds, that may be different from what you expected but might be so much better than you could have imagined.
If you meet someone that you find vivacious and interesting and attractive, why not give it a chance regardless of her birthdate?
She might be the love of your life.
Fully.
This is so true! I had a shidduch refuse me after agreeing to meet, after someone told him i was 1 year older.
The rebbes wife was 1 year older than the rebbe
Firstly, the Rebbetzin was older than the Rebbe. Secondly, when we’re all adults then what is a few years (even), this way or that. If you’re immature perhaps it won’t work. If you’re mature enough to think “out of the box” – what’s the problem. HOW MANY shidduchim of suitable people are not going because of an inability, or call it lack of maturity – to “THINK OUT OF THE BOX”. And this type of thinking refers to PARENTS and believe it of not – it refers to the SHADCHANNIM who cannot see something working and sometimes might refrain from… Read more »
Guys should stop looking at the age. The age shouldn’t stop a younger guy from going out with an older girl.
There is nothing wrong with the girl being even 5 years older than the boy! Old age homes are full of widows (women), because women live longer than men! If you want the chance to live together without spending so much time alone, find a girl a few years older and you’ll be happy!
As a single girl several years older than the author, this is not the issue that bothers me. I have earned my age at least as much as my married peers, and it frustrates me when I’m taken less seriously than others my age (or younger!). As far as shidduch suggestions, I know they are few and far between, but I am where I am and need to trust the aibishter to bring the right one. The last thing I need is to discount my own hard earned age and experience and chase after guys who aren’t quite there yet.… Read more »
Very well put,
I’m your age so I’ll usually say – I am around such and such age or I’ll say I’m looking for a brochur around such and such age. Bracha vhatzlacha! The right one in the right time will see you for who you are and not your “shoe size” lol!
I was like you: I looked and acted much younger than my 30 years. The shadchan lied to my husband about my age (saying I was 24) even though I told her never to do it. I was furious when I learned it after a few dates. But if she had told the truth, my husband later said, he never would have been willing to meet me. (He is about 2 years younger.) By the time he found out, it didn’t matter to him any more. I may have hated what the shadchan did, but the result was a beautiful… Read more »
My Aunt Clara was seven years older than her husband. She married in her thirties and had two kids as was the custom. Great marriage. He didn’t learn her age until she started collecting Social Security!
Two of my siblings are in marriages that the girl is at least 1 yr older than the boy. They are all happily married. Hope people can look past the age and look at the person themself.
Unfortunately many people are still silly about many aspects of shidduchum in this community
one example is age
A Shidduch is finding a match some people just have not found that person yet.
I know many “interesting” people who get married at a young age and they would not get the same judgement that a very put together older boy or girl would get
your age is of no significance towards your abilities in being married and who knows why a person is not married yet.
I am totally with you on this and wish you all the success
How old are you right now if I may ask??
I might have a Shidduch for u
Who is this in response to?
Please Send a resume
So based on your story you are looking to marry someone who is 5-10 years younger then you? I don’t think it’s a good idea in a long run unless you are so on the same page and ready to deal with age differences in 20 years from now…..
I would suggest you to shop mature guys and around your age plus minus 2-3 Years 30-45 …not 23-27…
Why do you suggest she marry someone up to 12 years older, but to stay away from someone 6 years younger?
i would not suggest to marry 10 years older both ways, its different generations, different mentality and in older life different physical needs, when she will be in her 60 and he in his 40’s – it’s like a bubby with a son,hard for women to be constantly young…i think she need to date her age,plus minus 2-3 years not more and be more flexible, not looking for a prince or perfect guy in all aspects but looking for a PARTNER to live with…it is hard at 33 to find a boy or a girl, because the list of his/her… Read more »
The people who stop talking to you or cease thinking of a match for you because of your age are completely out of your depth. So don’t worry – they are simply not the right channel for your shidduch. G-d is the matchmaker! Time is a human construct, and life is not measured by age or years, but by how deeply you have lived. You are living and maximizing your soul – what a glorious thing. Our very own Rebbe & Rebbetzin married at an age our community would have labeled “older”. It’s not without reason that our world is… Read more »
I once dated a girl and i really liked her. On the third date she told me she was two years older than she mentioned earlier. I asked her why she lied at first and she said “her Rabbi told her she could”. Honoslty, I think i would have still dated her if I knew in the beggining. It went down hill from that point. I wondered, “how could I build a home with someone I cant trust 100%”. I know her Rabbi said but, Im sure there are a lot of situations that a Rabbi would allow a person… Read more »
Never lie.Shame on the Rabbi for saying so.Lies and stealing are wrong.no excuse
Especially the shadchan shouldn’t be the one to auto reject. If it looked right earlier on in the conversation, they should go ahead and suggest them and let the other side make the choice. A potential match should’t be quick to decline either when there would otherwise be what to talk about. And always, ALWAYS consult a personal Mashpia, because it’s important to view the bigger picture through the eyes of a third person who knows you well can sees the bigger picture
When someone lies about one thing, age, height, job, health, it makes you wonder what else they haven’t been honest about.
When someone lies about one thing, age, height, job, health in reference to a shidduch, it makes the other party wonder what else they haven’t been honest about.
So true! It can ruin a marriage if people find out things after.. You must build a marriage on honesty and trust!!
it would be nice if there could be shadchanim just for the older singles. Maybe it would help them to find shidduchim more easily because these shadchanim will only specialize with older singles
There are so many single older guys and girls out there,what’s the problem. The guys say there are no girls and the girls say there are no guys. As far as age some people don’t count shabbos and Yom tov and thus come across younger. Maybe some of the commentaries here can link up and make a shidduch. I find the ones who have an easier time getting married is when parents and families push them to get married. Otherwise I know guys in their forties and fifties who are multi millionaires and sincerely frum,yet hardly date. They don’t have… Read more »
Age is a very sensitive topic, as many many like you suffer from being turned down because of it. Age is not just a number, men equate age with ability to have a large family. Simply stating that men shouldn’t get stuck on a number doesn’t accurately or fairly represent the male view. Lying about age somewhat removes Hashem from the equation. The heter for shalom bayis starts once there is an existing marriage. Being rejected multiple times and waiting for the right person is more than painful. I bless you and others in your predicament to find your zivug… Read more »
I’m sorry that your experience has been so difficult. However, lying about your age would be an even bigger turn off than your age. And honestly, I don’t think your age is a turn off. It’s teally such a small factor in the long run. Even if you were 4-5 years older, the older couples get, the less it matters. My grandparents were 6 years apart, granted he was older, but whoever you are meant to marry won’t care about your age as much as your middos and chemistry. My experience is that a lot of the shaddchanus business can… Read more »
I am 31 and the same thing happens to me. Everyone thinks I am much younger, and are shocked by my age. The last guy I went out with, even made a comment on how young I look. Ironically, he was quite a bit older than me. More than one Shadchan suggested I lie on my profile. To which I answered, relationships are built on trust. If you lie about something as superficial as she, what else are you lying to your partner about? Your spouse would have reason to never trust you. Recently, a Shadchan claimed I was beyond… Read more »
What a terrible thing for someone to say to you, especially a shadchan!! As the Rebbe said to someone once whose doctor told him he had low chance of survival, doctors are given koach to heal, not the opposite.
So too shadchanim are supposed to be helping people get married and have no business telling anyone they’re a “lost cause”!!!
The shaddchan should be ashamed of themselves. That is completely wrong to say. There are many guys out there who wouldn’t care about you being above 30. Telling you that you are too short and too old is just not right.
My wife is 3 years older than me. One of my friends was shocked when he found out (not through me) that I am dating someone older. We are married more than 2 decades and managed to raise a few fine kids BH.
Well I can tell all of you this. I’m 22 years old, and I went out with a girl who was 26. She was nice and all but the gap was felt far and wide she was set in her ways and was uncompromising on almost everything that was important to me.
Guys just don’t go out with girls older then you it’s just trouble take it from someone with a little experience in this…
Each relationship has its own needs. This may have nothing to do with age
Which may have had nothing to do with age.
But really, do you honestly think that your one negative experience at the ripe old age of 22 qualifies you to warn all guys to never go out with someone older than themselves? That’s quite an achrayus you’re taking on there.
Both men and women get set in their ways they grew into as they get older, unless your very Flexible like myself. That being said, my experience dealing with girls who are older is that they are hard to deal with and unwilling to compromise mainly. People don’t realize that once girls get into that professional mode of life there is no going back and girls will never date downward. It’s just the way it works. Not a chance. That is why I am telling younger guys to stay away from older girls in general…
I have many single friends in their mid thirties who refuse to go out with men in their 40/50s. It seems like theirs a large amount of singles across the board on both genders but more outside the box thinking is needed both by shadchans and the people going out on these dates.
I wana say sth and I sincerely hope the author of the article takes this personally (in a good way) and takes this to heart My friend, I am in a similar stage as you, older single, older older single, and I choose to look at things a bit differently… We need to accept the hashgacha pratis of the situation. That does not mean the situation will not change. But that means that the brochos we are waiting for will come to us through the specific people and details and circumstances that are all specifically directed by Hashem. No one… Read more »
For your thoughtful reply.
Please what’s app me your resume or call me at 917-587-9491. Hatzlacha Rabba
Our daughter is 5 years older than her husband and they have a beautiful marriage and a beautiful family, baruch Hashem. It happened because our son-in-law and his mother are wise and mature.