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Tuesday, 20 Tammuz, 5779
  |  July 23, 2019

    ‘Tatty, Why Do We Kill Chickens?’

    Op-Ed: The sounds and smells confirm our destination - Kapparos is nearby. And that’s when it happened: “Tatty, how come we kill chickens?” Full Story, Photos, Video

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    Zalmy Schapiro
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    Zalmy Schapiro

    Meir your questions are very interesting

    it's darkei EMORI....
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    it's darkei EMORI....

    BH
    BSD

    ITS A DARKEI EMORI….AS WELL AS BORDERIING ON TZAR BAALEI CHAYIM…..AND BEING CHASSIDISH MEANS YOU STAY AWAY FROM BORDERING ON VIOLATIONS

    SADLY ITS STILL A MINHAG….
    WE NEED MOSHIACH ….HASHEM

    PLEASE REVEAL MOSHIACH ALREADY

    Thank you
    Guest
    Thank you

    Thank you for penning this, we are under attack and I have had enough!

    Shocking
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    Shocking

    Why are the protesters crossing the street when the light is red?

    why
    Guest
    why

    do Why do they keep the chickens in a cage through out the whole shabbas without food and water and keep thousand in one cage while they are being suffocating , that’s where the problem occurs

    Think,  - Natural ? !
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    Think, - Natural ? !

    We need a really big announcement – leaving chickens to their own devices – natural existence, they’ll be eaten by animals or raptor(bird)s, who are by far more cruel to the chickens, till the chickens die while being eaten. Chickens are lucky that they’re used for kapporos and/or shechted for food, in a process of far less pain.

    To # 2 Re TZAR BAALEI CHAYIM
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    To # 2 Re TZAR BAALEI CHAYIM

    Please be sposific in what part of TZAR BAALEI CHAYIM is it with sources

    Ps

    Re darkei EMORI if we trust our ashkenazik posikim on other things then we should trust them on this too (they say only to look for spesificly a white one is darkei emori)

    And now the word chosid has an additional new conotration that to do what the Rebbe did (and that maase Rav is considered somthing) do the chasidims Rav legally holds this as not darkei EMORI

    Liberals will be Liberals.
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    Liberals will be Liberals.

    I’m sure all these protesters support Planned Parenthood. Let’s just say this is Planned Parenthood for chickens, you know, like post-birth terminations.

    I dont know you
    Guest
    I dont know you

    But you should write more.
    Clear, eloquent, and you give all answers and details, while maintaining the real point.
    This is what our youth need. People like you.

    Haha, fight fire with fire
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    Haha, fight fire with fire

    Maybe chasidim need to start protesting Xmas trees! All those poor, poor trees they cut down for a few weeks.
    What a bunch of hypocrites. It’s not about kaparos, but stopping a minhag.

    Superbly written
    Guest
    Superbly written

    Loved reading your article!

    hmmm
    Guest
    hmmm

    Seems that usually The same people holding “I want to live” chicken signs are not holding those signs about human fetuses. Just an observation/

    Anon
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    Anon

    Stop the chicken holocaust !!!

    Foul
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    Foul

    No one’s asked the chicken?

    Why do you give them any space on your website?
    Guest
    Why do you give them any space on your website?

    Just for more views? C’mon they are not looking for an answer, and we shouldn’t give them the time of day!

    Moshiach Now. Yitzi Kan.

    the solution
    Guest
    the solution

    The next time they come to protest we need to get our bochurim to start dancing hakafos around them, and singing,, drowning out their garbage, if it is enough guys doing it, they will be completely surrounded by singing, and they will be ineffective! Fight fire with OUR fire, the Torah!

    Great writer
    Guest
    Great writer

    Clear way of expressing your point

    wrongly labeled
    Guest
    wrongly labeled

    we shecht the chickens

    Simple answer
    Guest
    Simple answer

    They say they want to save chickens – fine! Let them buy a few chickens and raise them in their luxury condos. If they aren’t prepared to do that – then what else do they think is going to happen to these chickens other than being killed for food! Cut the red tape and unwanted babies will go to loving homes, but unwanted chickens……

    Some simple improvments
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    Some simple improvments

    I agree these protesters are just trying to cause problems. Having said that we are commanded to learn from everything we see and hear. There is a prohibition against tzar balaei chayim. We should try to find ways to minimize stress to the chickens. For example: Don’t overcrowd them. Feed them and give them water. Don’t let them see the shecheeta of other birds (as stated in shulchan aruch concerning animals). Don’t hold the chickens with their wings pinned back. Look at the video of the Rebbe bringing his kappora to be shechted. He held it with its wings folded… Read more »

    very well written
    Guest
    very well written

    i really enjoyed reading the article, thank you!
    Gut Yom Tov!

    USDA Regs
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    USDA Regs

    According to the USDA, one should not feed chickens from 24 hours before they are to be killed for food. legit!

    #16
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    #16

    My thoughts exactly!

    50 Million+ chickens killed every day.
    Guest
    50 Million+ chickens killed every day.

    These folks don’t care about the billions of chickens killed on farms each year.

    They care to come here and fight Religious Jews. Today about chickens – tomorrow something else. Just attack Religious Jews.

    to #12
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    to #12

    That’s an excellent point! I’d love to find out what percentage of these compassionate souls picket abortion clinics and display pictures of aborted fetuses, many of whom continue breathing after being aborted. If they feel so strongly about kapporos, why aren’t they also picket outside all the fancy seafood places where they boil the lobsters live? After all, there are far more lobsters boiled to death on a daily basis nationwide than there are chickens shechted for kapporos once a year; and a far greater percentage of the kapporos are used to feed the poor and hungry than the percentage… Read more »

    A Shochet
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    A Shochet

    In response to a previous comment about tzar balaei chayim: As I was told, horav braun in his speech in 770 last shabbos quoted the yad efraim (on shulchan oruch yoreh deah, simon 36 se’if 14) who cautions against inflicting tzar balaei chayim on the chickens during kaporos. Also mentioned by the previous writer is the fact, that holding the chicken by its wings definitely causes pain to the chicken. However here are a few personal observations (check out them out yourself and draw your own conclusions): In the regular set up of today’s kaporos, with all the peoples standing… Read more »

    Continued from A Shochet
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    Continued from A Shochet

    to suppoort my previous comment about how chickens are hung and killed for treif, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHUfAMijzAA (see BEGINING of clip right after chickens are hung up). In contrast to this, for kosher sluagther, even though the chicken are usually held (in the US) upside down by their legs for the Shechita, the wings are (in most plants today) left free and not held at all, and nevertheless the chickens DO NOT flap with their wings at all (remeber: if they would flap during the shechita that would usually render the chicken as TREIF, i.e nevaila). This indicates clearly that the… Read more »

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