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‘Tatty, Why Do We Kill Chickens?’

Op-Ed: The sounds and smells confirm our destination - Kapparos is nearby. And that’s when it happened: “Tatty, how come we kill chickens?” Full Story, Photos, Video

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Continued from A Shochet
September 24, 2015 6:20 am

to suppoort my previous comment about how chickens are hung and killed for treif, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHUfAMijzAA (see BEGINING of clip right after chickens are hung up). In contrast to this, for kosher sluagther, even though the chicken are usually held (in the US) upside down by their legs for the Shechita, the wings are (in most plants today) left free and not held at all, and nevertheless the chickens DO NOT flap with their wings at all (remeber: if they would flap during the shechita that would usually render the chicken as TREIF, i.e nevaila). This indicates clearly that the… Read more »

A Shochet
September 24, 2015 4:26 am

In response to a previous comment about tzar balaei chayim: As I was told, horav braun in his speech in 770 last shabbos quoted the yad efraim (on shulchan oruch yoreh deah, simon 36 se’if 14) who cautions against inflicting tzar balaei chayim on the chickens during kaporos. Also mentioned by the previous writer is the fact, that holding the chicken by its wings definitely causes pain to the chicken. However here are a few personal observations (check out them out yourself and draw your own conclusions): In the regular set up of today’s kaporos, with all the peoples standing… Read more »

to #12
September 24, 2015 1:52 am

That’s an excellent point! I’d love to find out what percentage of these compassionate souls picket abortion clinics and display pictures of aborted fetuses, many of whom continue breathing after being aborted. If they feel so strongly about kapporos, why aren’t they also picket outside all the fancy seafood places where they boil the lobsters live? After all, there are far more lobsters boiled to death on a daily basis nationwide than there are chickens shechted for kapporos once a year; and a far greater percentage of the kapporos are used to feed the poor and hungry than the percentage… Read more »

50 Million+ chickens killed every day.
September 24, 2015 1:24 am

These folks don’t care about the billions of chickens killed on farms each year.

They care to come here and fight Religious Jews. Today about chickens – tomorrow something else. Just attack Religious Jews.

#16
September 24, 2015 12:31 am

My thoughts exactly!

USDA Regs
September 22, 2015 3:14 pm

According to the USDA, one should not feed chickens from 24 hours before they are to be killed for food. legit!

very well written
September 22, 2015 1:44 pm

i really enjoyed reading the article, thank you!
Gut Yom Tov!

Some simple improvments
September 22, 2015 11:05 am

I agree these protesters are just trying to cause problems. Having said that we are commanded to learn from everything we see and hear. There is a prohibition against tzar balaei chayim. We should try to find ways to minimize stress to the chickens. For example: Don’t overcrowd them. Feed them and give them water. Don’t let them see the shecheeta of other birds (as stated in shulchan aruch concerning animals). Don’t hold the chickens with their wings pinned back. Look at the video of the Rebbe bringing his kappora to be shechted. He held it with its wings folded… Read more »

Simple answer
September 22, 2015 10:27 am

They say they want to save chickens – fine! Let them buy a few chickens and raise them in their luxury condos. If they aren’t prepared to do that – then what else do they think is going to happen to these chickens other than being killed for food! Cut the red tape and unwanted babies will go to loving homes, but unwanted chickens……

wrongly labeled
September 22, 2015 9:14 am

we shecht the chickens

Great writer
September 22, 2015 8:03 am

Clear way of expressing your point

the solution
September 22, 2015 6:27 am

The next time they come to protest we need to get our bochurim to start dancing hakafos around them, and singing,, drowning out their garbage, if it is enough guys doing it, they will be completely surrounded by singing, and they will be ineffective! Fight fire with OUR fire, the Torah!

Why do you give them any space on your website?
September 22, 2015 6:22 am

Just for more views? C’mon they are not looking for an answer, and we shouldn’t give them the time of day!

Moshiach Now. Yitzi Kan.

Foul
September 22, 2015 4:29 am

No one’s asked the chicken?

Anon
September 22, 2015 2:06 am

Stop the chicken holocaust !!!

hmmm
September 22, 2015 12:31 am

Seems that usually The same people holding “I want to live” chicken signs are not holding those signs about human fetuses. Just an observation/

Superbly written
September 22, 2015 12:30 am

Loved reading your article!

Haha, fight fire with fire
September 22, 2015 12:19 am

Maybe chasidim need to start protesting Xmas trees! All those poor, poor trees they cut down for a few weeks.
What a bunch of hypocrites. It’s not about kaparos, but stopping a minhag.

I dont know you
September 21, 2015 11:59 pm

But you should write more.
Clear, eloquent, and you give all answers and details, while maintaining the real point.
This is what our youth need. People like you.

Liberals will be Liberals.
September 21, 2015 11:56 pm

I’m sure all these protesters support Planned Parenthood. Let’s just say this is Planned Parenthood for chickens, you know, like post-birth terminations.

To # 2 Re TZAR BAALEI CHAYIM
September 21, 2015 11:43 pm

Please be sposific in what part of TZAR BAALEI CHAYIM is it with sources

Ps

Re darkei EMORI if we trust our ashkenazik posikim on other things then we should trust them on this too (they say only to look for spesificly a white one is darkei emori)

And now the word chosid has an additional new conotration that to do what the Rebbe did (and that maase Rav is considered somthing) do the chasidims Rav legally holds this as not darkei EMORI

Think, - Natural ? !
September 21, 2015 11:21 pm

We need a really big announcement – leaving chickens to their own devices – natural existence, they’ll be eaten by animals or raptor(bird)s, who are by far more cruel to the chickens, till the chickens die while being eaten. Chickens are lucky that they’re used for kapporos and/or shechted for food, in a process of far less pain.

why
September 21, 2015 11:02 pm

do Why do they keep the chickens in a cage through out the whole shabbas without food and water and keep thousand in one cage while they are being suffocating , that’s where the problem occurs

Shocking
September 21, 2015 10:44 pm

Why are the protesters crossing the street when the light is red?

Thank you
September 21, 2015 10:41 pm

Thank you for penning this, we are under attack and I have had enough!

it's darkei EMORI....
September 21, 2015 10:34 pm

BH
BSD

ITS A DARKEI EMORI….AS WELL AS BORDERIING ON TZAR BAALEI CHAYIM…..AND BEING CHASSIDISH MEANS YOU STAY AWAY FROM BORDERING ON VIOLATIONS

SADLY ITS STILL A MINHAG….
WE NEED MOSHIACH ….HASHEM

PLEASE REVEAL MOSHIACH ALREADY

Zalmy Schapiro
September 21, 2015 10:20 pm

Meir your questions are very interesting

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