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Survey: Every Second Yeshiva Bochur in Israel Smokes

Over 50% of students learning in haredi yeshivas in Israel are regular smokers, according to a survey conducted by the Knesset. They suggested raising the legal age for purchasing tobacco to 21. Full Story

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Its called
June 19, 2024 7:10 pm

To prove being “cool” or out of relieving stress. Of course Rebbeim smoked as well but that’s on a different level. For relieving stress – it’s not good for your physical health but to watch inappropriate things like woman dressed 1/2 ….. i cant even write it, is damaging spiritually and mentally. Choice is yours…

whoa
Reply to  Its called
June 19, 2024 8:27 pm

smoking is not cool at all it is the opposite of cool

for relieving stress try breathing normal air
Reply to  Its called
June 19, 2024 8:28 pm

don’t smoke

Rebbeim smoking
Reply to  Its called
June 20, 2024 3:40 am

I was taught that as soon as the Freidiker Rebbe was told that cigarettes have been found to be bad for health, he stopped smoking.

Wow
June 19, 2024 7:25 pm

At least that’s better then the American Yeshivos

Landsman
Reply to  Wow
June 19, 2024 8:19 pm

Not at all

that's horrible
Reply to  Wow
June 19, 2024 8:28 pm

I had no idea so many people smoked! That’s awful!

Schnitzel wrap
Reply to  Wow
June 20, 2024 1:30 pm

what are you saying, bochurim i america do much worse

Peretz
Reply to  Schnitzel wrap
June 20, 2024 3:51 pm

Litvisher Bochurim or Chassidisher? It seems Chassidim (Lubavtich and other groups in America) smoke more

wrong
Reply to  Peretz
June 20, 2024 8:50 pm

Its not they smoke more. u see them more

The problem is not the smoking!!
June 19, 2024 7:28 pm

The smoking itself is not an issue, it’s the places smokers find themselves. Just like the image of this article, it’s bochrim and teenage girls in a smoking room together. This is clearly yichud and is forbidden.

um smoking is an issue in itself
Reply to  The problem is not the smoking!!
June 19, 2024 8:29 pm

it causes lung cancer and a bunch of other problems

Yichud
Reply to  The problem is not the smoking!!
June 19, 2024 10:27 pm

Do you know the meaning of yichud?

Yichud
Reply to  The problem is not the smoking!!
June 20, 2024 1:08 pm

A room like that which has see through walls and viewable to the public is not yichud

Daniel M.
June 19, 2024 7:53 pm

I almost started smoking when I was in Israel, but I remembered my mother’s words before going, to do her a favor and never touch a cigarette, even if all my friends start smoking and I’m very tempted.

I think all mothers need to have a nice talk with your children before going to Israel about smoking and ask them to do them this one favor..

cigs are poison
Reply to  Daniel M.
June 19, 2024 8:30 pm

literal poisons and toxins

???
Reply to  Daniel M.
June 19, 2024 10:03 pm

And not amarican

Yuk!
June 19, 2024 8:04 pm

I will never date someone who smokes

vape
June 19, 2024 8:21 pm

not dangerous

!!!
Reply to  vape
June 19, 2024 9:34 pm

i heard even in crown hieghts yeshivos theres smoking vaping etc.

Not dangerous??!!!
Reply to  vape
June 20, 2024 1:09 pm

Vapes have been proven to be highly dangerous

Well
Reply to  Not dangerous??!!!
June 20, 2024 2:45 pm

I mean you could say that, but there is no source for that

No source??!!!
Reply to  Well
June 21, 2024 12:35 am

Vaping has been proven by studies to be very dangerous

PROTECT YOUR VESSEL AND BODY AND SOUL
June 19, 2024 8:25 pm

HORRIBLE! ATTENTION ALL SMOKERS
STOP SMOKING PERMANENTLY IMMEDIATELY
IT’S VERY HARMFUL, DANGEROUS, AND BAD FOR YOU! PLEASE STOP!

Thanks
Reply to  PROTECT YOUR VESSEL AND BODY AND SOUL
June 20, 2024 3:39 am

I’m actually a chain smoker, but because I saw your Collive.com comment I’ve decided to quit.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart

great decision
Reply to  Thanks
June 20, 2024 6:51 pm

excellent!

please bring in people who are doctors
June 19, 2024 8:25 pm

we need immediate education sessions for all frum jewish smokers from medical doctors to teach them why they need to quit immediately

Why frum jewish?
Reply to  please bring in people who are doctors
June 20, 2024 2:57 pm

What we’re going to let the non frum jews die of smoking?
Who are you?
Every yid counts

non frum jews don't really smoke
Reply to  Why frum jewish?
June 20, 2024 7:38 pm

pretty sure most public school teach about the dangers of smoking and therefore most of them dont end up smoking

smoking is very inconsiderate to others around you
June 19, 2024 8:30 pm

it pollutes the air. No one else wants to breathe in those toxins either. Secondhand smoke can damage other people in the area.

Well

It’s not inconsiderate if you do it outdoors. You have to give them somewhere to do it.

it's inconsiderate if they're outdoors by people
Reply to  Well
June 20, 2024 6:53 pm

or in a place where people are about to be. Nah they don’t need a place because what they need to do is quit!

it's definitely a huge repulsion
June 19, 2024 8:32 pm

smoking is really gross and disgusting. I would never want my husband to smoke. To all men out there, please do not smoke

Let me understand
June 19, 2024 8:49 pm

Smoking isn’t cool – the comments are saying

But weed, marijuana, psychedelics? Very trendy and prevalent…

Clearly
Reply to  Let me understand
June 19, 2024 9:28 pm

Clearly everyone in the comments here are big professionals of what’s cool and not cool

smoking is not cool
Reply to  Let me understand
June 19, 2024 10:47 pm

and all the other things you listed are also not cool at all

Torah study is cool
Reply to  Let me understand
June 19, 2024 10:47 pm

having good middos is cool
Being healthy and a non-smoker is cool

Affects Shidduchim
June 19, 2024 9:34 pm

As a woman in shidduchim, a brochur who smokes is an IMMEDIATE NO from me. Smells bad, damages health, addictive and expensive

For your brochur
Reply to  Affects Shidduchim
June 20, 2024 4:12 am

You are also off my list too. I would like a women that can spell.

you should quit smoking anyway
Reply to  For your brochur
June 20, 2024 6:53 pm

what if your bashert wants a non-smoker

Spelling
Reply to  For your brochur
June 20, 2024 8:55 pm

Actually, she spelled it right. You didn’t.
1 woMAN
2 woMEN

hypocritical..
Reply to  For your brochur
June 20, 2024 10:21 pm

women = plural
woman = singular
practice what u preach sir..

huh
Reply to  For your brochur
June 20, 2024 10:35 pm

can i ask what the spelling error is cuz i dont see any..

ML UK
Reply to  huh
June 21, 2024 6:35 am

bRochur. But that could be an unintentional error, whereas the ‘women’ is usually ignorance. We refused smoking suggestions for our children and they are all married. I refused for myself, having seen my father o”h die of smoking related lung cancer. It’s not a pretty sight and very painful. Have a good day.

Not more?
June 19, 2024 10:17 pm

I’m surprised the number isn’t higher, from firsthand knowledge I think the number unfortunately is higher.
It is a huge problem in Israel, and especially among bochurim. They smoke in America too, its natural for them.
Its known that sports in America is like smoking in Israel, and sports in Israel is like smoking in America

not good, but we have worse problems
June 19, 2024 11:21 pm

like internet. worry about that?

Internet
Reply to  not good, but we have worse problems
June 20, 2024 2:59 pm

Smoking is just as bad

you clearly lack daas torah
Reply to  Internet
June 21, 2024 11:59 am

גודל המחטיאו יותר מהורגו! smoking ruins the body, while open internet destroys the nashama!

ML UK
Reply to  not good, but we have worse problems
June 21, 2024 6:37 am

Interesting that you should sweep under the carpet a major issue because there are other issues. They all need to be dealt with.

I CARE ABOUT YOU
June 20, 2024 9:02 am

All your concerns are valid. we have to dig deeper and find the real underlying issues over here. If all these bochurim had proper emotional support we would not have so many kids smoking, using drugs, and worse rachmomah litzlan . just think about that for a minute.

She’s fooling herself
June 20, 2024 9:27 am

If they can carry a gun and serve in the army, they are old enough to decide about smoking. They shouldn’t smoke regardless, but many smoke for stress relief – as the article says numbers went up since the start of the war.

Sooo!!
Reply to  She’s fooling herself
June 20, 2024 3:01 pm

That doesnt make it right and is still an issur min hatorah

They should do a poll in Crown heights
June 20, 2024 12:44 pm

with yeshivos and girls high schools, I wouldn’t be surprised if the number was higher.

To reliefe stress...
June 20, 2024 9:04 pm

Im myself someone who is and has been suffering with anxiety. Unfortunately all the frum therapists charge… and a lot.. $200/$300 or more a session.. many ppl cannot afford and so the problem continues and kids get stressed too.
If ppl would work under insurance/medicaid it would be way more accessible and it would reduce the amount of smokers.

try quitting smoking
Reply to  To reliefe stress...
June 21, 2024 7:04 am

maybe the smoke is causing anxiety

anxiety
Reply to  To reliefe stress...
June 21, 2024 7:05 am

can sometimes be caused by eating gluten and cane sugar. and chocolate, coffee, caffeine.. Or doing things that your soul doesn’t want you to do.

Problems with therapy
Reply to  To reliefe stress...
June 26, 2024 2:10 am

Some therapists could often your families to ACS and cause a lifetime of damage.
Its hard to know which therapists are the ones whob report.
You might be better off not taking your kid to therapy even if your son smokes. Better than a therapist who calls ACS on you.

YOUR ALL MISSING THE NON WRITTEN OBVIOUS HERE
June 21, 2024 2:05 am

This is what I saw in my head when seeing the article headline:
Survey: Every Second Yeshiva Bochur in Israel ARE COPING WITH YESHIVA LIFE ANXIETY THROUGH SMOKING (!!)

p.s: I attribute this to the mashgichim.

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