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March 21, 2013 12:45 am

Well, I posted a response to one of Shmuley’s ridiculous articles on Fluffington Post after having registered an account on the site, and the post was banned. I was simply voicing criticism; nothing shocking at all. It seems the “rabbi” has one standard for himself and another for all the lowly others. And yes, I agree that he most certainly demonstrates narcissistic tendencies.

shuley boteach blasts Collive
February 7, 2012 12:27 am

I read the book. The problem is that Rabbi Boteach says that Jews can learn from “J” and he calls him a great rabbi. The problem is that in order to “learn’ anything from “J” one must read the only source which are the Gospels. Does Rabbi J intend for Jewish Children to read the Gospels? Should we be teaching a course in the Gospels at our Yeshivot?

Shmuley Stinks!!!
January 30, 2012 4:08 pm

Bravo Rabbi Yitzchak Schochet. Bravo. Excellent response to Shmuleys idiotic and empty claims. Rabbi Immanuel is 1000% right in banning this garbage disguised as a book. Why would a jew even consider writing a book about J, in any context? Very simple. Glory and money. PERIOD. Let’s be real Shmuley, it’s all about the Benjamins. But remember Shmuley as the Torah says: “Those who run after glory, it evades them”. SHAME SHAME SHAME on you Shmuley for selling out and selling out your people for the mighty dollar. Shmuley, you are a money whore and media whore, nothing more. As… Read more »

attention 140 and those who will try to follow the link
January 18, 2012 5:10 am

it seems it was removed by the author. so can you kindly please summarise?

Letter from Rabbi J. Immanuel Schochet about 'Kosher J'
January 17, 2012 10:36 pm

21 Teves 5772 Sholom U’Brochoh, Regarding the recent controversy surrounding a book released by Shmuley Boteach titled ‘Kosher J’, I am writing this letter to express my authoritative view in response to those who have sought my opinion on the matter. While it is not normally my style to write letters of condemnation, having read the book, I feel it poses a tremendous risk to the Jewish community and therefore imperative to state my halachic opinion that it is forbidden for anyone to buy or read this book or give its author a platform in any shape or form to… Read more »

January 17, 2012 8:49 pm


January 17, 2012 1:57 pm


Treatment ASAP
January 16, 2012 5:05 pm

There is no other way to say it: Boteach is an addict.

Follow his track record, his words and actions and you will get to the same conclusion: Boteach is addicted to himself. His narcissistic posts on Twitter and Facebook, his constant drive for publicity for the sake of publicity, his references to himself make you wonder why isn’t he checked in to some treatment center in LA.

Time to grow up, Shmully....
January 16, 2012 4:14 pm

Dear Shmully, I thought you had more class – or at least self-respect. Do you really believe that – for whatever reasons you may have – you can offend the religious sensibilities of a large group of people, and then have the gall to demand a forum?! If you truly desired an honest exchange of ideas, perhaps you should have bothered consulting people BEFORE disgracing yourself with what looks like another reckless attempt to sensationalize yourself. You may be arrogant, selfish, and even truly misguided, but you are not stupid. So now that you’ve treated us to your next attempt… Read more »

We're in trouble
January 16, 2012 1:14 pm

I have to say that as a Jew I am ashamed. In these times of hate amongst us, we have not seen hate like this in almost 80 years, we are once again against one another. We live with the bumper stickers “Moshiach Now” knowing full well Moshiach will not be upon us until we all live in peace. That is not peace amongst the non-jew and the Jew. It is peace amongst the Jews! So Rabbi Boteach wrote a book saying that the religion a majority of the world follows evolved form Judaism. If we think the missionaries are… Read more »

A Challenge To Boteach
January 16, 2012 11:07 am

I read the Book and I draw conclusions. a) Kosher J rejects Rambam’s opinion on JC b) Kosher J rejects 2000 years of Rabbinical attitudes and opinions towards JC c) Kosher J relies heavily on the New Testament d) Kosher J calls for Jews to recognize JC as an authentic Jewish Rabbi If Boteach gets a written Daas Torah-Halachik ruling approval from the foremost Jewish Rabbinical authorities of our time, we would accept the book and his campaign to recognize JC with open arms. We urge Boteach to approach Chief Rabbi Lau, Rabbi Yosef S Eliyashuv, Rabbi Zalman N Goldberg… Read more »

You fell for it!
January 16, 2012 6:05 am

You’ve all fallen into Boteach’s trap… with 171 posts and counting, he’s dominating the conversation. That’s what he wants and thrives on, publicity. He wants to be talked about. See how his HuffPost column goes out of the way to quote his critics in lurid detail!

If you want Boteach to go away, then ignore him.

Pathological Attention Seeker
January 15, 2012 9:31 pm

I have known Shmuly Boteach since he was a young Bochur. Unfortunately, he is a pathological attention seeker.

Your attitude is Showing
January 15, 2012 12:45 pm

Please at All cost avoid Negativity and be very Positive and fly with Eagles as walk with Torah Scholars. Life is way to short and being upset only knocks days off your life as being Positive theres no stress as days are added to your life avoiding stress and confrontation. Love your Fellow Jew and LET IT GO.Again let go anything thats bothering you and making you upset.Dont worry about trhe small things all things are small.
BH,Jeffrey Tobias Portland Chabad

January 15, 2012 12:33 pm

How ironic to respond to Wolf and others outcry abour SB’s Avoda Zora with bashing Wolf’s grammar

Badchan of the Vatican?
January 15, 2012 12:09 pm

To 157: I would just like to correct a small error in your wording. Didn’t you mean Badchan of the Vatican?

what he should have done
January 15, 2012 10:58 am

He should have marketed his book ONLY for Christians. His big mistake was thinking it would at all be relevant to Jews.

agree with 105
January 15, 2012 9:14 am

please raise your standards beyond what people say/write. Songs from non-jewish sources (to put it mildly) is giving vitality to avoda zora too-and should never be put on your site.

shocked myself
January 15, 2012 2:56 am

I too was shocked to find out Chaim Miller is a serious mushpah of Shmuly Boteach. I don’t know him at all nor have anything against him ch”v nor do I really know too much what happens in CH altogether. However, using the Gutnick Chumash and planning to buy more and other books from this fine publishing house to hear this saddens me and makes me suspicious. If Chaim Miller is an intellectual he should be able to discern not only intellectuality, which SB is not, and truth and Chassidus which SB for sure is not. As such it would… Read more »

The whole point of the Torah.. to love your fellow as yourself
January 15, 2012 1:35 am

My fellow jews.. please! These spiteful comments send chills down my spine.. Let’s top worrying about the wrong others are doing and start looking at ourselves.. inside.. Whatever ‘wrong’ you think Shmuly is doing.. are u doing any better by posting malicious remarks against a fellow jew? Do you know the impact you are having on people who read this and see the hate/jealous/negativity we have in us? Do you know how much your statements could be negatively affecting his children ( I know them a few of them personally and they are all wonderful people so kol hakavod to… Read more »

Bullies---ALL of YOU!
January 15, 2012 1:09 am

Last I checked we live in the United States of America with FREEDOM of SPEECH and– FREEDOM of PRESS Rabbi Boteach did NOTHING WRONG by publishing a book. YOU get to decide if you want to buy it and read it or not. WHY all the Boteach Bashing? You are all nothing more than PLAYGROUND BULLIES ganging up on someone and not even letting him defend himself. NEWS FLASH: If you don’t approve of what he published… DON’T BUY IT— BUT PLEASE ENOUGH OF THE INCESSANT WHINING! Maybe we should all chip in and buy Rabbi Wolf a class or… Read more »

January 14, 2012 10:10 pm

What would the Rebbe say????

for clarities sake
January 14, 2012 1:24 pm

are there two Chaim Millers in chabad who make there living from writing?

Chose: the ten commandments or the 11th?
January 13, 2012 3:59 pm

“God gave 10 commandments at Sinai, and the 11th commandment, which they expunged but which has come down orally, is ‘Thou shalt do anything for publicity and recognition’.” – Shmuly Boteach

Col is improving thier kashrus!
January 13, 2012 1:48 pm

yelchu mechayil el chayil
hopefully one day they will totally eliminate all slanted or derogatory articles and especially comments

coll live
January 13, 2012 12:55 pm

keep it up

New Shlichus
January 13, 2012 11:40 am

We heard Shmuley’s been offered chabad of the Vatican.

The sad reality
January 13, 2012 8:25 am

1) For all the “peace lovers” who think this is loshon horo. learn halocho this is a question of avodo zora mamosh which has to be dealt with, in the public, by a competent rov lest many fall as is clearly seen on these comments. 2) The real problem are his comments in the conference which were quoted in haaretz, which he has not retracted which are hepech halocho mamosh. 2) The sad reality is that people have gone off the beaten track – and think that this is chabads way. Imagine what would the Rebbe have said about this… Read more »

to 152 above
January 13, 2012 7:52 am

you state
…Gutnick Chimash is hardly a work of scholarship unless you’re average…
that statement alone says volumes about your capacity to see, know and understand others around you, including those you differ with in terms of opinion and haskofo
Statements like that are commonplace and thrive, and keep the HUGE support shmuley has and will continue at places all over the world inculding CAY here in CH.
Think about it ladies and gentlemen!
Good Shabbos.

3 cheers for COLLive!
January 13, 2012 6:21 am

the best news site available.

Yasher Koach COLlive
January 13, 2012 4:13 am

A fellow Shliach and COLlive reader in Paris, France

Proud of you on this one!!

January 13, 2012 3:37 am

Chaim Miller is a good man, don’t get me wrong. But (a) the Gutnik Chumash is hardly a work of scholarship unless you’re average, but it serves a purpose. (b) He is the one courting Boteach and exposing this menace back into Crown Heights. He has a quiet agenda with Boteach and you need to be aware and alert to that. It’s always the quiet ones. Next time you see Boteach walking our streets, look behind him and I assure you C. Miller will be only a few feet behind. I would bet my bottom dollar C. Miller called him… Read more »

Thanks COL for standing for Yiddishkeit
January 13, 2012 1:49 am

And let me explain how deep this runs, for all those who think you need to read the book, and not finds SB’s quotes from his book sufficient indication of what it is about. It is beneficial to transcribe here part of what the Rebbe writes in אג”ק ח”ב דף ר”א . This provides all-around clarification why Yidden rejected יש”ו in spite of anything that SB or others can write about J and the closeness of his messages to Yiddishkeit. For those who don’t understand the original Hebrew, the upshot is, that the original Christians were Jews, who for the… Read more »

yasher koach
January 13, 2012 1:22 am

yasher koach col

Yasher Koach COL!
January 12, 2012 11:45 pm

I want to thank COL for taking the right step in this instance upholding editorial standards. Yasher koach!

Great idea...
January 12, 2012 11:23 pm

As suggested by #87, Shmully and Matisyohu should go on a
tour together. Title? Tzu zingen un tzu zogen!

Boteach has no shame
January 12, 2012 10:30 pm

He will sell ANYTHING for fame. Torah standards. He can join the mishichistim who eat on Tisha B’Av. He can find justification for anything. He is good with debating so let us give him achance to explain why Chazir is kosher.
I think that should be the title of his next book the Kosher Ham.

To Boteach
January 12, 2012 10:14 pm

When Matisyahu shaved his beard off, hardly going off the deep end, rather a small step backwards (sadly), the first article about it on collive garnered more than 400 comments. You going TOTALLY off the deep end barely got half. You’re a loser which not many have interest in you! Have a nice life.

good that we got some standards, but
January 12, 2012 10:11 pm

“Indeed, after being alerted by our readers, we reviewed Boteach’s article and chose to remove.”

What does this mean? that you haven’t reviewed it before posting?
We’re talking about J. here, and it’s not like SB has any credibility for keeping things clean and kosher.

quote from hayom yom
January 12, 2012 8:50 pm

The reason for not studying Torah on nittel-night,1 I heard from my father, is to avoid adding vitality.

My father once said: Those diligent students who begrudge those eight hours and cannot tear themselves away from study – I am not fond of them. This (abstaining from study) applies only until midnight.

guess what mr boteach-the rebbe didnt want to give validity to mr yoshky-so why are you?
are you smarter or more enlightened or holier than the rebbe?

January 12, 2012 7:16 pm

Your attack on Chaim Miller is appalling. “Chasidus lite”? The Gutnick chumash is an incredible work of scholarship which brings the rebbe’s rashi sichos to the masses. R’ Miller’s knowledge is awesome and he is spreading the mayanos literally. You owe a retraction.

to '#35
January 12, 2012 7:13 pm

farkert we see that chassdidim DO GO TO COURT!” Time and time again!

we will not be publishing anything further on the topic.
January 12, 2012 7:02 pm

Come on!

Bring it!

Don’t let COL be bullied by Yoshke and his friends!

Hasskomo On HIs Sefer
January 12, 2012 6:01 pm

Here is Rabbi Biteach’s First Haskomo on his Sefer. A must read. How does Wolf put it, You Be The Judge”


Rabbi Boteach
January 12, 2012 6:00 pm

…at least he has a brain , perhaps collive and the Lubi’s are little to narrow minded.( although I do respect and admire their work)
R Boteach is a breath of fresh air .
Go Shmuley!!!

yasher koach col
January 12, 2012 5:58 pm

the book is not for us, it is to help what the rambam says in hilchois melachim that J will prepare the world for Mosheach. and rabbi boteach is taking his messege to the world. but it has no room R”L in our circels.

Thank you COL
January 12, 2012 5:55 pm

Thank you COL for upholding Torah standards.
Thank you Rabbi Wolf for speaking up when it was needed.
Shmuley, it’s never too late!! Denounce ALL the shtussim….and use your talents like an emesse chossid…
Old friends who believe beemuna shelema that you can do it, be’H!

thank you COL!!
January 12, 2012 5:46 pm

thank you for doing that. and keep it up!! NO MORE RABBI B!! WOOHOO!!

You win!
January 12, 2012 5:30 pm


Your editorial sense is not only allot better then the other sites, but your editorial sense is really great.

But I would suggest that you exclude allot of the contreversy you publish, in the frame of op-ed’s etc.

Alexa says that you are number 1 in Chabad and Crown Heights.


Why were my comments edited?!
January 12, 2012 5:19 pm

I am #107. I mentioned a psak from the Rambam and COL would not print it?! The rambam holds J & x-ianity in the category of shituf. Shituf is acceptable and even admirable for gentiles (the Rambam adds that gentiles following this religion has brought the concept of Moshiach closer and more real to this world). It is avoda zora mamosh for Jews to hold the same beliefs. SB is out there dissemenating AZ mamosh to Jew and gentile alike and is the reason he should be excommunicated from klal yisroel until he renounces what was written in his name.

Jews for Judaism
January 12, 2012 5:13 pm

i emailed them and asked what they think of this new book. the said, “We are concerned and currently working on a statement and review of the book. Stand by…”

Rabbi Wolf and Col are kosher
January 12, 2012 5:09 pm

In an age of so much darkness thank Hashem someone is doing the right think,

Rabbi Botech is 100% right!!
January 12, 2012 5:08 pm

he is right and people just cant admit it!!

Rabbi Wolf is a hero
January 12, 2012 5:01 pm

Thank you col for taking a stand for Yiddishkeit. Thank you Rabbi Wolf for doing what the leadership in Lubavitch should of done.
The Rebbe is proud of both of you and you should be greatly blessed accordingly . Wasnt Pinchas a little to drastic .A magafer of our kinderlach is going on when we dont see our Moshe Rabenu and people exploit this situation .
Look at mesechta Avoda Zora 17a and the story of Rashis father – absolutely NO commentary is needed

If Boteach thought for a moment
January 12, 2012 4:44 pm

If Boteach took a step back to think maturely, he would see how low he fell and would hug Rabbi Wolf, COL staff and every commenter that woke him up with their harsh words (when someone is in spiritual cardiac arrest, one must pull out the defibrillator and administer heavy duty electric shocks), and then he would call his publisher and cancel the book. Difficult, of course, after all he invested much time and fortune into it, but if he tosses the book in the trash, I don’t believe he will regret it reflecting back to that day on his… Read more »

To #97
January 12, 2012 4:22 pm

Please don’t dare to put Rabbi Schochet or Rabbi Jacobsen on the same level as Shmueli Boteach!! They would never write such drivel, and it’s actually a crying shame that R. Schochet is not in a position to be able to respond to it. That would have put paid to all doubters once and for all!!

What has he done?
January 12, 2012 4:10 pm

Does anyone know anything that this guy accomplished in the past ten years?

His next book will be KOSHER MURDER
January 12, 2012 4:10 pm

His first was KOSHER Giluy Aroyos
His next is KOSHER Avoda Zara
Im sure that his next one will be KOSHER MURDER!


tired of it
January 12, 2012 3:46 pm

Rabbi Boteach has brought awareness of legitimate topics to Jews across the world. It’s not only Chabad and the Shluchim’s office who spread Judaism. Sometimes it takes a radical step to reach a radical generation. Get off of your high horses and come back to reality. There’s more to Judaism than Kingston Ave…. read the book before you judge the man or his work. Controversy like this makes me reconsider my devotion to Chabad. I guess I’ll have to remember the reasons I consider myself a Lubavitcher – and its NOT because of its followers.

January 12, 2012 3:00 pm

Collive is SO biased! They only publish articles promoting Chabad and not Aish and Ohr Sameach?! AISH should sue Collive’s pants off!!

January 12, 2012 2:50 pm

Thank you so much for not posting more on this already dead topic.

Educate yourselves
January 12, 2012 2:48 pm

Google Image Boteach’s book, and you’ll see a partial picture of someone who has a hole in his palm from being nailed to a “piece of wood” who’s worshiped in churches. Yes, they pray to him, to J who SB says should now be considered kosher! On that cover, that avoda zara mamosh which is depicted will be described as kosher, along with a reminder about the previous “best seller” which makes something else שלא ישמע על פיך kosher. In SB response that can be read on other sites, you’ll see multiple quotes from the new testament, which we may… Read more »

If you can't finish it...
January 12, 2012 2:43 pm

Don’t start it. I agree with taking down Rabbi Boteach’s post. I don’t agree with putting up Rabbi Wolf’s in the first place. Rabbi Boteach wrote a book with J as the topic. If you post an article blasting him, how can he be asked to respond to the allegations without mentioning the topic of the book he is defending? The appropriate thing to do for a kosher website would have been to stay out of this altogether.

COL did the right thing!!!
January 12, 2012 2:28 pm
Shmuly you are making the same mistake
January 12, 2012 2:18 pm

Shmuly, you are making the same mistake as your book’s subject. You are cutting yourself away from the communitty. It didnt work out well for the first one. Who will write the book “The Kosher Shmuly”

kosher shmuly
January 12, 2012 2:15 pm

coming soon. kosher shmuly. How chabad let him go without a fight. You will learn about the jewish patriat the real Rabbi shmuly.

thank you Rabbi Wolf and thank you to Collive
January 12, 2012 2:08 pm

I used to see SB articles in the Jewish Press and wondered why no one stopped it ; giving him an international platformno less! This exposure of who he really is comes as a great relief. We do feel for his family but what he does effects alot of innocent people. In this case it needed to be discussed openly and for people to know the truth.

Thank you number 90
January 12, 2012 2:03 pm

You put it best!!!

January 12, 2012 1:49 pm
January 12, 2012 1:47 pm

Your comment is very very funny!!!! and true!!!!!

Thanks COL!
January 12, 2012 1:35 pm

It really shows that ven s’iz do a fayer, es brent, and there are standards. I agree with 105, maybe they should be elevated a bit as well. As hatzlocha comes only from hashem, it will only have a positive effect as opposed to (onlay) a chance of losing popularity.

January 12, 2012 1:28 pm


The point of the matter...
January 12, 2012 1:08 pm

1) Reagrdless of his assertions J as is believed by 2 billion christians is Avoda Zarah. Agrrred by all gedoei Yisroel 2) A general rule is you can’t reinvent the wheel. to change a given perception of Yiddin all Doros.. See rabbi S. Riskin book on a pesak from R’ Moshe on onewanting to pasul Teffilin of kellal Yisrael 3) His whole derech is to change the ways of Chabad as established by the Rebbe, although not openly addmitting it, he argues aginst peulos and an embarking on engaging with non Jews in matters of Kefirah and pritzus etc 4)… Read more »

americas rabbi
January 12, 2012 1:01 pm

shmuly you immature child! whats a great man like you “americas rabbi” reckoning with a website like COL!

Ejecting Shmuley
January 12, 2012 12:53 pm

I don’t understand what Rabbi Wolf means by ejecting Shmuley from Chabad. How exactly does he imagine this happening?

There is no one who can eject someone from Chabad. Only the individual can eject themselves; and Shmuley is proving himself quite capable of ejecting himself from us, our community, and our way of thinking. Let’s leave him to it.

what a narcissistic hack!
January 12, 2012 12:48 pm

When you see his comments on FB and everything he’s doing what it shows is a total lack of shame and a huge ego the size of NJ…naaa…heck the Empire State itself. What a chutzpa, especially after being given the option of removing certain excerpts from his book but wouldn’t! Furthermore, his scorched earth policy is now threatening all of Lubavitch and shluchim who are against him by lumping us all as “chareidim” (in the pejorative) and “fanatics who have to be removed from mainstream Judaism…” His true colors are now coming out. This doesn’t just jump out all of… Read more »

Can S.B. be included in a minyan?
January 12, 2012 12:33 pm

SB’s emotions have gotten the better of him. He is having a panal discussion in a church in early February. Do you any other C. Chosid that enters a church? The drivel he has put up on his site against Rabbi wolf is disgusting. Rabbi Wolf now ‘heads’ a movement of rabble rousers?!?! Rabbi Wolf is now responsible for comments to an op-ed he penned? RW does not have the right to express his opinion any longer? Someone needs to put up a petition to rid Shmuley Boteach from orthodoxy based on his own writings. Only Rabbi’s from many walks… Read more »

Boteach on who J was....
January 12, 2012 12:08 pm

For anyone aroused bu curiosity to even think of reading his book.. All his assertions are already discussed in many books and seforim (Otzar Yisroel, Sefer Havikuchim etc..) regardless of his assertion that J may have not wanted Jews to stray from Torah.. He clearly had an agenda of Kefirah 2) Another point; His description of the christian world is the core issue as this is the key belief in his fame stc.. Boteach wants to reinvent the wheel on a new J which even if true will not change the established christian belief. 3) His approach is similar in… Read more »

collive's red line
January 12, 2012 12:07 pm

I am happy to see that there is a line that they will not cross, but I think that line needs to be elevated.

Shmuly i daven for you
January 12, 2012 12:00 pm

You can’t be cured if you don’t realize your not well
You want lubavitch and shluchim to be Shmuly style sorry Shmuly the Rebbe didn’t have you’re style of bringing yidden closer to the truth

let him defend himself
January 12, 2012 11:54 am

shouldn’t we give the man the benfit of the doubt? dont be so quick to judge

January 12, 2012 11:52 am

It is shamesful to read on Huffington Post, Boteach comparing sayings of Yoshke to L’Havdil Divrei Chazal. I challenge Rabbi Boteach to get one Haskoma on his book , even one from a frumer Posek Dinim Rav. We salute Rabbi Wolf. I know him since his Shlichus in Australia. Very few Shluchim can equal his accomplishments. Chicago, from what Anash there tell me, would never be what it is today, without R Wolf. The Cheder is one of the best in the world of Lubavitch. As a result they now have a boys and girls Mesivta/high with standing room only… Read more »

Rabbi Wolf's reponse
January 12, 2012 11:45 am

To all those saying that Rabbi Wolf’s article should not have been originally posted , i disagree
A mecha’ah against this book was a MUST
There are times when rabbonim are not allowed to sit back shev ve’al taashe
And there is no freedom of speech in the Torah On this topic there are no two sides and collive should have even thought of allowing SB to respond

to shmuley boteach
January 12, 2012 11:42 am

do you mind living us alone?

you don’t live among us, you don’t think like us, you don’t talk like us so why are you saying that you are one of us?????!!

January 12, 2012 11:40 am

Shmuley Boteach is a dangerous man. Don’t trust him for even a second.

Yshar Koach
January 12, 2012 11:40 am

You are the chabad website i visit and trust my children to visit! I really like all the shiurim! Have more of them!

January 12, 2012 11:36 am

Sorry COL but if your readership doesn’t want to read the conversation, then you shouldn’t have posted Rabbi Wolf’s article. The NYT readership doesn’t want to read a defense for Israel, but is it fair that they only print attacks against Israel? Lastly, had Rabbi Immanuel Shochet or YY Jacobson wrote this book there would zero outrage in Lubavitch. Zero.

A living example
January 12, 2012 11:21 am

Im very glad to here that Collive has standards which they do not break, it’s high time other sites learns from them.

i like Shmuley but not this time
January 12, 2012 11:18 am

I ask Shmuley to name me ONE orthodox rabbi in the entire world that would have him do a book signing in their shul for this book. ONE!!

January 12, 2012 11:11 am

#21 (The real reason he came back)
S.B. never came back. Unfortunately, some Lubavitchers lowered their standards and took him back.

Thank you
January 12, 2012 10:57 am

A big Yasher Koi’ach to R’ Feivish Vogel of London for terminating Mr. Boteach’s official association with Chabad while he was just crossing his first lines.

thats dumb
January 12, 2012 10:53 am

your “standards” are quiet low if you are not willing to respect freedom of speech.

Thank you COL
January 12, 2012 10:45 am

Being that he is a brilliance man, makes him very dangerous!

I appreciate that COL isn't giving him platform
January 12, 2012 10:36 am

Perhaps the catholic church should be given platform to respond on COLLIVE? Perhaps Achmadinejad should be given a platform to respond to anti Achmadinejad articles on collive? We live in an era of free press and a CHABAD website SHOULD have biases in its reporting. It SHOULD be Biased towards promoting Chabad and Yiddishkeit and not Apikorsus (or certainly borderline apikorsus). Thank you Collive for knowing your core loyal audience and resisting Boteach’s bullying.

Yesh Koine oilomoi bishoh achas
January 12, 2012 10:29 am

COL, you did the right thing – Chazak Chazak V’nischazek!

As a side note, the fact that there was even a hava amina that you will publish it tells me that we have a lot of soul searching to do.

aMERIKA iz nisht andresh
January 12, 2012 10:29 am

I only wish Michangelo who painted the last supper…..would be around then he could of somehow painted or photoshop Sammy boteach into the last supper and make him the 13th apostle…. !!!!!! Thank G-D for Rabbi Wolf …wish to see more shluichim take a stand….and before Am Haratzim start with their comments about is this loving every jew? and the Rebbe was mekarev… etc dont change history… The Friediker Rebbe had a gabbai whose son married loi olenu a shiksa…before he married her the Rebbe told him if you marry her you cant come to 770 anymore The gabbai in… Read more »

Birds of a feather
January 12, 2012 10:19 am

I think Shmuely Boteach should go on tour with Matisyahu – for a good long time. It seems like both of them are having difficulty with the tests they’re being handed.

January 12, 2012 10:11 am

While I must admit, I don’t always agree with the editorial standards of COL, on this one you guys are spot on!
RSB writes a response where he sounds like a J freak. Quting the New Testament and J etc in half his article. How can any Jewish website post that?? It’s ludicrous that RSB felt that the way to defend himself is to prove that J was….

Concerned parent
January 12, 2012 10:09 am

What im trying to understand is why COL felt the need to have to mention this whole debacle in the first place, nobody would have known about this book if it wern’t brought up here, as well as the fact that this is exactly what Boteach hoped for in the first place, he thrives on attention and it would be best if the jewish community just ignored him and let him fade away into obscurity.

January 12, 2012 10:05 am

We all love you and will continue to support you COL!

To numbers 9,15,17 and 26
January 12, 2012 10:04 am

To number 9 you are right the proper way to handle this situation is to remove all posts and articles related to this subject. To number 15 there is a very thin line between brave and brazen. Rabbi Boteach is a very controversial man but as is well known “the freethinking of one generation is the common sense of the next”. Rabbi wolf could have spoke to Rabbi Boteach directly and addressed the issues he had with his newest book. He chose to take a different route. Its seems as if he did not want an explanation to the issues… Read more »

Sruly C
January 12, 2012 9:58 am

The man was given tremendous G-d given talents, I see him on TV all the time, the Kidush Hahem he makes on a daily basis is unbelievlable.

The Rebbe said to work with Goyim and make the world a better place, he does that by doing humanitarian missions and Chesed projects.
Also this is a form of Sheva mitzvos bay Noach writing about J in a kosher way, cause over a billion people believe in that nonsense, he needs to open their eyes.

Poor Shmuley
January 12, 2012 9:53 am

Poor Shmuley…… Always the victim……. What a teribble life….. The man is always being wronged.

sue or not
January 12, 2012 9:49 am

Sorry to bust your little bubble today it is ok to sue look at the people who call themselves chabad hq there in court everyday suing fellow chasidim with our money .Oh sorry this is not either going to get published!

Shkoach col
January 12, 2012 9:48 am

For keeping it kosher

I am very proud of Collive!
January 12, 2012 9:47 am

Thank you for keeping editorial standards strong!
I should say, that even if it didnt have all the J things Boteach’s response does not belong on collive! how can you put him in equal with a very respectable Shliach who is working in the field of chinuch for over 35 years!
Boteach is a shameless attention seeker who only thinks about himself, Rabbi Wolf is the opposite who really cares about yidishe neshomos!
A Yahser Koach Rabbi Wolf and Yasher Koach Collive!

collive fan
January 12, 2012 9:38 am

Collive, we r with u!!! dont be afraid!

annoyed with COL
January 12, 2012 9:28 am

I have no problem with COL deciding which articles they deem acceptable and I appreciate the fact that they monitor responses (for profanity, I assume). This is privately owned web site and can do what they want with it. (Or is it Chabad funded?) I have found that they will allow comments that are rude and offensive and even inappropriate, but will often deny comments I have tried to make because they might have been negative about some big shot in Chabad. Even comments I’ve made that were not negative have not been allowed. I understand that some comments might… Read more »

January 12, 2012 9:26 am

maybe we should not even cover his story updates and then he will be mad too. Seems like he is drumming up attention, or needs it

well done
January 12, 2012 9:24 am

seems like he is mad because he can’t have his way. Maybe he would like to run for Rebbe, then he can dictate the changes.
I wonder if he ever went to the Rebbe, and if so, what did the Rebbe tell him?

true color
January 12, 2012 9:21 am

finally we see SB true colors. hes going this far as to show how shamless he is

As an old friend of Shmuli from miami
January 12, 2012 9:18 am

You can;t have your cake ( chabad ) and eat it too ( Make books like this )

Feivish Vogel was wright all along!!!!! time for him to go to the OU and see how they embrace him….

nice job
January 12, 2012 9:18 am

I would like to thank col for improving their site. Although they are not perfect, and many times post inappropiate articles/pictures, slowly they are becoming better. Keep it up!

January 12, 2012 8:57 am

In your article you state, “In the spirit of unity and love for one another, and in consultation with the COLlive editorial advisory board – comprised of a select group of respected rabbis and educators – we did post the back-and-forth exchange and we will not be publishing anything further on the topic. ” If you truly believe your own words, then the really right thing to do is for you to remove this article as well! At least, certainly the ability for readers to comment. Don’t you realize that by allowing this to remain up you are just defeating… Read more »

Personality Disorder
January 12, 2012 8:51 am

SB seems to suffer from a personality disorder, namely narcissism. He’s not so smart, he’s not so intellectual but he loves to talk & write about himself & get attention.
Don’t feed his ego & he’ll sue you, typical.

Oh and BTW kids don’t belong on the Internet , period.

Kol Hakavod COLLIVE
January 12, 2012 8:47 am

You are truly giving nachas to the REbbe!

Col did right
January 12, 2012 8:40 am

Col did right I would hope other sites would do the same this does not belong on a Jewish let alone Chabad Site. It is time to put S.B. on ignore Lo Meuktzoch Vlo Meduvshach. His true true colors are coming out with brazen Chutzpah. In Rambam Hilchos avodas Cochovim Perek 10 Haloco 2 “They oppress Jews and turn the nation away from Hashem like Yashua Hanotzri(J is not Kosher) and his students (I hope Shmuli is not one of his students) Tzodok Beisus and their students Shem Reshoim Yirkov” In hilchos Melochim Perek 11 Halocho 6 “Also Yashua (J)… Read more »

January 12, 2012 8:19 am

He has effectively silenced you by your undertaking to no longer write about it! What a mistake. Now he will quietly go about his dangerous task. Kol hakovod that you did not print his trash. But let the criticism keep up. If one Jew goes astray on account of him it is on his head. But if anyone does because the protestations ceased on account of you, that’s on your head! Be brave!

I Read Book
January 12, 2012 7:53 am

He refers to Yoshke as Rabbi and turns him into a great Jewish leader. How misleading and frauduless. How can he get away with this.
Rabbi Boteach,
Every Sefer requires an Haskoma, if it is worthy of one. Please find one frum Rov and Posek to write an Haskomo on this Shtus. And he has the nerve to threaten with law suits. Go ahead Shmueli.

January 12, 2012 7:53 am

Um, col, you posted the piece attacking him, you have to post his reponse. I could care less about an anonymous editorial board.
I love col and visit 5 times a day, but come on!!!!!

Ahavas Yisroel = Blessings!
January 12, 2012 7:50 am

it was unproffessional & highly suspicious when wolf put out his attack!

to publicly spew hatred under the guys of defending Judaism is wrong!

to 40
January 12, 2012 7:41 am

Given the level of scholarship in this Kosher J book, we need to petition Amazon and B&N (and the Library of Congress) to have it reclassified as Fiction.

January 12, 2012 7:31 am

What a disgusting way to use children. If this was the case, you should never have posted Rabbi Wolf’s horrifying words in the first place. What he has said about Rabbi Boteach is the absolute worst representation of Chabad – his words will do far greater harm to children and youth than anything Rabbi Boteach has written. Because our kids are going off the derech because of this kind of oppressive, narrow thinking. As to parents phone calls about concerns for their children? Kindly tell them to get their kids off the internet! What a completely ludicrous excuse! Using children… Read more »

to 18
January 12, 2012 7:28 am

when u look at the word zalman, sometimess it looks like laitzan.

Collive didn't publish my comment once!
January 12, 2012 7:27 am

Thank you collive for not posting my comment once. After thinking about the comment it may have been hurtful to some and I respect a site that does not post everybody anonymous garbage.
There are other Crown Heights sites that I have stopped going to because it seems the standards are not the same.

January 12, 2012 6:55 am

Good for col. the last thing we need is to expose our families to this sick attempt to put a hechsher on the name that caused oceans of jewish blood to be shed. Im glad that this person thinks he is smarter than all the jews who have preceded him and only he can see this “truth”.

re 40
January 12, 2012 6:26 am

now thats a great comment!

im totally againt him...
January 12, 2012 6:25 am


Ima Heer
January 12, 2012 6:14 am

I read Boteach’s original response. I cannot understand what COL is outraged about! True, he lumped together all of Chabad Chassidim for criticism. His remarks apply to only some narrow minded, but is well taken. He defended his book (which I haven’t read) as academic scholarship, which it very well may be. He certainly has a right to his opinion. He is not the first researcher to come up with the theory that J was a Jew, professing primarily Jewish values, albeit from a distorted point of view, which was later distorted further by his followers. Perhaps Boteach goes further… Read more »

this is what he wants
January 12, 2012 6:13 am

he wants this publicity!
delete all articles on the subject

Happy with your decision
January 12, 2012 5:20 am

I’ve chided you in the past for not having editorial discretion.
Thank you for showing some now! He should be persona non grata on your website from now on.

January 12, 2012 5:04 am

from the fact it self, how angery boteach became, this it self brings out the trueth, VI DI VELT ZOGT: OIFEN GANEV BRENT DI HITEL… it is time for boteach to print a book with the name THE KOSHER CHAZER – and to put he`s picture on the front cover, and maby than people will understand and realiz, why he has written such books in the past ; and why he will continue writting such books in the future. the punch line of most of he`s writtigs and speeches, is to R”L REMOVE AND DESTROY THE HAVDOLOIS BEIN KOIDESH LECHOIL… Read more »

Poor Choice
January 12, 2012 4:02 am

SB’s choice for the title of his book is what caused the controversy. Had he called it anything else but KosherJ it would have probably been ignored.
He got the publicity one way or another, and all because he made j kosher… how ironic is that?

"editorial standards"
January 12, 2012 3:45 am

24 and 37 are correct. I don’t agree with everything Rabbi Boteach does but it seems like COL’s reporting standards and journalistic integrity are frequently informed by bias. And it seems cowardly and hypocritical to devote webspace to a criticism of Rabbi Boteach and then deny him the opportunity to respond in the name of “the spirit of unity and love for one another.” I offer this criticism in a brotherly spirit, because COL is also a great resource for information about Lubavitch, and it is sad to see it undermined by petty fights and biases.

While Boteach Spent Months
January 12, 2012 3:42 am

writing his book, did it at all occur to him that this is a book that may be trief, not kosher. In all the time this was being written, did he consult with a Posek, a Rov, a mashpia or even a friend. If he did, and got a green light, now is the time for this indivdual to step forward, publicly defend him, or publicly admit a mistake. If he did not consult with anyone, one must question his frum bonifides, men ret shein nisht for his Chassidish profile.

January 12, 2012 3:39 am

At first I thought you were an ultra-extremeist. Then I thought maybe just a clownish parody. Now I’m pretty sure its a medication issue. It’s really sad that YOU are trying to take ownership of a historcal figure like its the pink slip for a reallly nice car. He was here, he said and did some stuff, people wrote about him. Anything beyond that is pure faith. Believe, don’t believe, be unsure. Differing opinions of him are good for comparison, discussion and civil argument. Unfortunately, there are those that would use them for anything from hurt feelings to war. And… Read more »

January 12, 2012 3:35 am

COL will hopefully be more careful when posting opeds and articles in the future to avoid a repeat of such a fracas.
The term “collive” should mean that one lives as Chabad expects one to live and not to create unworthy sensationalism..
Go from strength to strength, collive, and leave the Boteach circus to the non jewish media and TV.

Kol Tov
January 12, 2012 3:32 am

Would you like me to help set up discussions or debate, public and-or private, between Rabbi Shmuley & Rabbi Wolf?

Could be interesting & useful — about the Title of the book and its content. Publicity and public pressures may lead to useful outcome (sometimes not).
~Dr. Cliff Brickman

January 12, 2012 3:05 am

17, 32,& 36 are still holding out for “leadership” to do something. there is no leadership. the shluchim spend money on bringing him out because he’s a good draw card. they should be using that money for shlichus. the circus continues.

January 12, 2012 3:04 am

For real? Consequences? What are the consequences? COL told him to buzz off – nothing goes down…other than Boteach, may this happen speedily in our days and let us say Amen.

January 12, 2012 3:03 am

Rabbi Chaim Miller (of Gutnik Chumash aka chassidus lite fame) is a known ‘chosid’ of Shmuley. He is the one who gives him a home in Crown Heights and is trying to re-introduce him into Chabad mainstream. This should stop. The Rabbi should be told forthwith that this must stop. Why is he given a platform to give shiurim in Crown Heights when he invites such danger into our midst? Maybe Meir Gutnik should have a word.

January 12, 2012 2:59 am

Shmuley’s two pronged response to every condemnation is the threat of a law suit and the invite to a debate. In the past he’s lost both. Shame Rabbi Wolf didn’t debate him (or get someone who can to take his stead) and shame COL didn’t go for the law suit. I disagree however that the exchange should stop. He will now take the silent opportunity to further promote his agenda and at the same time bash Chabad. He has to be crushed to a pulp, as he deserves. Not personal – nevr personal! But this issue has to be beaten… Read more »

Ignore him and he'll go away
January 12, 2012 2:30 am

Please. Boteach is ois shaliach and ois vorf. Don’t give him the attention he so dearly craves. He is no better than Yisroel Doovid Weiss of the Neturei Karta. Both of them would be nothings if it weren’t for their wealthy fathers and both use their family money for self-promotion. The difference is that Boteach is brighter (and his father far richer) so he is more dangerous. Ignore him, and he will go away from Chabad and just do whatever floats his boat with the next Michael Jackson. This threat of a lawsuit is the most preposterous thing I have… Read more »

Shmuli's Entertainment
January 12, 2012 1:48 am

His own PR firm filed him under “entertainment” – my only question is which genre comedy or horror ?


Thank you
January 12, 2012 1:36 am

For keeping some standards

האיש למען הרב??
January 12, 2012 1:11 am

א בן מרדכי לא להאמין בעוד שהספר עצמו לא מעיד על תרבות בעליו בדווקא אלא לפי דבריו של רבאי בוטח הם דעה הגונה ונכונה. הגיעו הדברים שהעיסה גלשה ממידותיה וכן מראה על בעליה וכדאי בזיון וקצף. אבל לא נקדים את המאוחר. ראשית יישר כח להרב וולף שגילה את דעת תורה וליובאוויטש ברבים כי זו היא היא דעה של הרבי איש ההלכה ונשיא הדור שאין להתווכח על נצרות!!!מבלי להיכנס בדברים מה נכון ומה לא נכון כי זו היא דרכם של אפיקורסים ופעמים אף בכל כרחם. כל בית ישראל יודע כמה חורבן ושכול הביא האיש שבא “בשם האהבה” ומה שהרמב”ם כותב עליו… Read more »

such hatred for a fellow Jew??
January 12, 2012 12:57 am

Read your bedtime shema, forgive and move on. Boteach wrote a brilliant resource for Christians that aims at correcting the falsehoods they’ve learned for hundreds of years which fostered anti-semitism.. I am embarrassed by your outrage.

January 12, 2012 12:50 am

Its up to the pr hacks in Big Chabad to step up and stop the chanifa

He wants to sue??????
January 12, 2012 12:43 am

Strange, I thought Chassidim don’t go to court, they go to a Din Torah. So I suppose he’s not really a Chossid then.

Big surprise.

kol akavod COL
January 12, 2012 12:41 am

Its nice to see that one website has editorial standards

I am impressed
January 12, 2012 12:40 am

In the past I’ve taken exception to COLlive (& probably will in the future) for showing bias in favor of your views. However, this time you listened to the public & chose to take the higher ground. I have no problem with Boteach’s attempts to justify himself: if I were he (thank G-d I’m not!!) I’d also be furious and want to see “justice.” However, it is the prerogative of COL to decide what gets published. As I said, I don’t always agree (actually, make that rarely) but this time you were right. My reasoning, however, is slightly different. You… Read more »

boteach is a disaster
January 12, 2012 12:30 am

he just spoke by a shliach in miami and i hear other shluchim want to bring him

where is chabad leadership to expose this fraudster SB for being a disgrace to frum jews worldwide

to col live
January 12, 2012 12:28 am

Great job. Your loyal readers thank you

Enough is enough
January 12, 2012 12:24 am

SB is clearly under siege. Your decision to not deal with this issue any further is a good one. Further criticism of him would just be kicking a man who is down and promote more reactive behavior on his part. Seems like the furor about his book takes over where the Matisyahu cuts-his-beard controversy left off. COL is not People magazine and doesn’t need to add feul to the fire.

He's Done.
January 12, 2012 12:16 am

Recently he’s been trying to come back to our circles, he’s been hanging out in CH more often, he even helped get funding for a few Chabad projects.
But now he just did himself in. What a shame.
I hope he apologizes for this and finds a way out of this terrible mess.

to 16
January 12, 2012 12:13 am

Sorry sweetheart! Before you write anything too intellectual, learn how to spell first 😉

Please ignore him!
January 12, 2012 12:01 am

He wants for his book to have a taboo allure, propelled by chabad condemnation!

If you ignore him, this asinine book is just another piece of mediocre trash collecting dust in the B & N judaica section!

January 11, 2012 11:58 pm

What was he each even thinking when he wrote such a book about such a topic?
Why would any g-d fearing jew even want to dwelve into such a topic which is known to make even smart and knowledgable people doubt and question their rumba?!

January 11, 2012 11:58 pm

thabnk you very much collive for not puting up the discussion. its really appreciated. with much hatzlacha.

Fair unbias reporting?
January 11, 2012 11:57 pm

I think it is hypocritical to post Wolf’s letter and not allow Boteach to respond. Worried what readers will be exposed to is way too late. As #9 sated “you opened a can of worms”. Likewise, they can read his response and commentary on competing Lubavitch websites. Similarly, seems rather bias the kind of photo you do post of Boteach. Boteach did offer to debate Wolf in a public forum to educate the masses and ignorant. Maybe COLLIVE should host the event to bring unity, peace and understanding to all those who are concerned. Amazing that only Wolf feels the… Read more »

the problem with media they dont know how to report the news
January 11, 2012 11:50 pm

based on this article and picture it dosnt sound as if COL is not a side between wolf and boteach.

very good
January 11, 2012 11:49 pm

i hope and pray that COLLIVE has this same guidelines for other topics as well. and they are not just using their “frum guidelines” againts boteach

The real reason he came back.
January 11, 2012 11:48 pm

His true colors are beginning to show. He made it back to Chabad only because his kids are of shidduchim age now and he wants them to marry within Chabad. Yechhhhh!

Yasher Koach
January 11, 2012 11:47 pm

COLLIVE is good.

thank u!
January 11, 2012 11:47 pm

for some level of standards…please keep putting up ONLY totally appropriate stuff!!!

January 11, 2012 11:42 pm

When you look at the word opinion, sometimes it looks like the word onion.


Oh pls!
January 11, 2012 11:40 pm

Chabad can’t have it both ways. Either SB is a Lubavitcher or he is not!

Either he was kicked out of shlichus or he is a welcomed guest at our public events (banquet, dinners etc.), either he is a loose canon or he is someone our children should look up to?

Can the heads of Chabad make up their minds and kindly notify us?

January 11, 2012 11:38 pm

i;m sorry but rabbi wolf sounds like the same breed of charides that spit on girls in israel

to zalman #9
January 11, 2012 11:36 pm

i disagree

a stand was needed to be taken… rabbi wolf did a brave and important thing by speaking out and not being afraid of lawsuits and threats… there are times when a yid must stand up to do what’s right…

Good job col
January 11, 2012 11:34 pm

The problem is SB was mild last couple years and some in Chabad forgot how over the line he can go. Now that we’ve been reminded we should just not promote him on Chabad sites.

Thank you
January 11, 2012 11:32 pm

Thank you for not posting his article and keeping to your standards!

January 11, 2012 11:32 pm

Where can I apply to join this committee?

I just got semichah and can be respectable if required 😉

January 11, 2012 11:29 pm

its time someone in the lubavitch acts like a grown up…

January 11, 2012 11:28 pm

shmuley boteach is what we would call an ‘attention seeker’

To COLlive
January 11, 2012 11:27 pm

The proper thing to do, obviously, would have been to take down the original ignorant and slanderous article (by Rabbi Wolf). You opened the can of worms by posting it, now you suffer the consequences.


January 11, 2012 11:23 pm
He wants to sue???
January 11, 2012 11:23 pm

On what grounds, may I ask?
Last time I checked it was a free country

Kol Hakovod to you guys!!
January 11, 2012 11:22 pm

Stay strong.

kudos to collive
January 11, 2012 11:18 pm

Thank you to collive for this great action!

Glad to hear...
January 11, 2012 11:17 pm

I’m so glad to hear that you did not post that non-jewish information about yoshke. I agree with you that our children (and adults!) should NOT be reading about this stuff!!!

Thank you editors of COL!

Hashem have pity
January 11, 2012 11:14 pm

This whole episode is tragic because real talent is wasted ,i wish Sb had a mashpia.Everyone plse refrain from any negativity ,he has a dear ,sincere wife and precious children so lets call it quits and we hope he does to.

Good for you collive
January 11, 2012 11:14 pm

dont be afraid of doing the right thing!

January 11, 2012 11:13 pm

Who does he think he is that he can sue a website that doesn’t want to post his article? It’s a free country, you can post or not post whatever you want. (Sometimes COLive doesn’t post my comments, maybe I should sue them)

I did not have a strong opinion for or against him before but this is just ridiculous and hot headed. Get over yourself dude!