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Shmuley Boteach Blasts COLlive

Controversial author Rabbi Shmuley Boteach sent out a press release via Rubenstein Public Relations, blasting COLlive.com for sticking to editorial standards. Full Story

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Lawsuit?
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Lawsuit?

Who does he think he is that he can sue a website that doesn’t want to post his article? It’s a free country, you can post or not post whatever you want. (Sometimes COLive doesn’t post my comments, maybe I should sue them)

I did not have a strong opinion for or against him before but this is just ridiculous and hot headed. Get over yourself dude!

Good for you collive
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Good for you collive

dont be afraid of doing the right thing!

Hashem have pity
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Hashem have pity

This whole episode is tragic because real talent is wasted ,i wish Sb had a mashpia.Everyone plse refrain from any negativity ,he has a dear ,sincere wife and precious children so lets call it quits and we hope he does to.

Glad to hear...
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Glad to hear...

I’m so glad to hear that you did not post that non-jewish information about yoshke. I agree with you that our children (and adults!) should NOT be reading about this stuff!!!

Thank you editors of COL!

kudos to collive
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kudos to collive

Thank you to collive for this great action!

Kol Hakovod to you guys!!
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Kol Hakovod to you guys!!

Stay strong.

He wants to sue???
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He wants to sue???

On what grounds, may I ask?
Last time I checked it was a free country

THANK YOU COL!!
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THANK YOU COL!!
To COLlive
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To COLlive

The proper thing to do, obviously, would have been to take down the original ignorant and slanderous article (by Rabbi Wolf). You opened the can of worms by posting it, now you suffer the consequences.

Zalman

pathetic
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pathetic

shmuley boteach is what we would call an ‘attention seeker’

respect!!
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respect!!

its time someone in the lubavitch acts like a grown up…

Hmmm
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Hmmm

Where can I apply to join this committee?

I just got semichah and can be respectable if required 😉

Thank you
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Thank you

Thank you for not posting his article and keeping to your standards!

Good job col
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Good job col

The problem is SB was mild last couple years and some in Chabad forgot how over the line he can go. Now that we’ve been reminded we should just not promote him on Chabad sites.

to zalman #9
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to zalman #9

i disagree

a stand was needed to be taken… rabbi wolf did a brave and important thing by speaking out and not being afraid of lawsuits and threats… there are times when a yid must stand up to do what’s right…

Wolf
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Wolf

i;m sorry but rabbi wolf sounds like the same breed of charides that spit on girls in israel

Oh pls!
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Oh pls!

Chabad can’t have it both ways. Either SB is a Lubavitcher or he is not!

Either he was kicked out of shlichus or he is a welcomed guest at our public events (banquet, dinners etc.), either he is a loose canon or he is someone our children should look up to?

Can the heads of Chabad make up their minds and kindly notify us?

Opinion
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Opinion

When you look at the word opinion, sometimes it looks like the word onion.

Zalman

thank u!
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thank u!

for some level of standards…please keep putting up ONLY totally appropriate stuff!!!

Yasher Koach
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Yasher Koach

COLLIVE is good.

The real reason he came back.
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The real reason he came back.

His true colors are beginning to show. He made it back to Chabad only because his kids are of shidduchim age now and he wants them to marry within Chabad. Yechhhhh!

very good
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very good

i hope and pray that COLLIVE has this same guidelines for other topics as well. and they are not just using their “frum guidelines” againts boteach

the problem with media they dont know how to report the news
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the problem with media they dont know how to report the news

based on this article and picture it dosnt sound as if COL is not a side between wolf and boteach.

Fair unbias reporting?
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Fair unbias reporting?

I think it is hypocritical to post Wolf’s letter and not allow Boteach to respond. Worried what readers will be exposed to is way too late. As #9 sated “you opened a can of worms”. Likewise, they can read his response and commentary on competing Lubavitch websites. Similarly, seems rather bias the kind of photo you do post of Boteach. Boteach did offer to debate Wolf in a public forum to educate the masses and ignorant. Maybe COLLIVE should host the event to bring unity, peace and understanding to all those who are concerned. Amazing that only Wolf feels the… Read more »

anon
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anon

thabnk you very much collive for not puting up the discussion. its really appreciated. with much hatzlacha.

Seriously?????
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Seriously?????

What was he each even thinking when he wrote such a book about such a topic?
Why would any g-d fearing jew even want to dwelve into such a topic which is known to make even smart and knowledgable people doubt and question their rumba?!

Please ignore him!
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Please ignore him!

He wants for his book to have a taboo allure, propelled by chabad condemnation!

If you ignore him, this asinine book is just another piece of mediocre trash collecting dust in the B & N judaica section!

to 16
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to 16

Sorry sweetheart! Before you write anything too intellectual, learn how to spell first 😉

He's Done.
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He's Done.

Recently he’s been trying to come back to our circles, he’s been hanging out in CH more often, he even helped get funding for a few Chabad projects.
But now he just did himself in. What a shame.
I hope he apologizes for this and finds a way out of this terrible mess.

Enough is enough
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Enough is enough

SB is clearly under siege. Your decision to not deal with this issue any further is a good one. Further criticism of him would just be kicking a man who is down and promote more reactive behavior on his part. Seems like the furor about his book takes over where the Matisyahu cuts-his-beard controversy left off. COL is not People magazine and doesn’t need to add feul to the fire.

to col live
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to col live

Great job. Your loyal readers thank you

boteach is a disaster
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boteach is a disaster

he just spoke by a shliach in miami and i hear other shluchim want to bring him

where is chabad leadership to expose this fraudster SB for being a disgrace to frum jews worldwide

I am impressed
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I am impressed

In the past I’ve taken exception to COLlive (& probably will in the future) for showing bias in favor of your views. However, this time you listened to the public & chose to take the higher ground. I have no problem with Boteach’s attempts to justify himself: if I were he (thank G-d I’m not!!) I’d also be furious and want to see “justice.” However, it is the prerogative of COL to decide what gets published. As I said, I don’t always agree (actually, make that rarely) but this time you were right. My reasoning, however, is slightly different. You… Read more »

kol akavod COL
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kol akavod COL

Its nice to see that one website has editorial standards

He wants to sue??????
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He wants to sue??????

Strange, I thought Chassidim don’t go to court, they go to a Din Torah. So I suppose he’s not really a Chossid then.

Big surprise.

AMIM
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AMIM

Its up to the pr hacks in Big Chabad to step up and stop the chanifa

such hatred for a fellow Jew??
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such hatred for a fellow Jew??

Read your bedtime shema, forgive and move on. Boteach wrote a brilliant resource for Christians that aims at correcting the falsehoods they’ve learned for hundreds of years which fostered anti-semitism.. I am embarrassed by your outrage.

האיש למען הרב??
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האיש למען הרב??

א בן מרדכי לא להאמין בעוד שהספר עצמו לא מעיד על תרבות בעליו בדווקא אלא לפי דבריו של רבאי בוטח הם דעה הגונה ונכונה. הגיעו הדברים שהעיסה גלשה ממידותיה וכן מראה על בעליה וכדאי בזיון וקצף. אבל לא נקדים את המאוחר. ראשית יישר כח להרב וולף שגילה את דעת תורה וליובאוויטש ברבים כי זו היא היא דעה של הרבי איש ההלכה ונשיא הדור שאין להתווכח על נצרות!!!מבלי להיכנס בדברים מה נכון ומה לא נכון כי זו היא דרכם של אפיקורסים ופעמים אף בכל כרחם. כל בית ישראל יודע כמה חורבן ושכול הביא האיש שבא “בשם האהבה” ומה שהרמב”ם כותב עליו… Read more »

Thank you
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Thank you

For keeping some standards

Shmuli's Entertainment
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Shmuli's Entertainment

His own PR firm filed him under “entertainment” – my only question is which genre comedy or horror ?

http://www.rubensteinpr.com/clients

Ignore him and he'll go away
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Ignore him and he'll go away

Please. Boteach is ois shaliach and ois vorf. Don’t give him the attention he so dearly craves. He is no better than Yisroel Doovid Weiss of the Neturei Karta. Both of them would be nothings if it weren’t for their wealthy fathers and both use their family money for self-promotion. The difference is that Boteach is brighter (and his father far richer) so he is more dangerous. Ignore him, and he will go away from Chabad and just do whatever floats his boat with the next Michael Jackson. This threat of a lawsuit is the most preposterous thing I have… Read more »

LAW SUITS AND DEBATES
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LAW SUITS AND DEBATES

Shmuley’s two pronged response to every condemnation is the threat of a law suit and the invite to a debate. In the past he’s lost both. Shame Rabbi Wolf didn’t debate him (or get someone who can to take his stead) and shame COL didn’t go for the law suit. I disagree however that the exchange should stop. He will now take the silent opportunity to further promote his agenda and at the same time bash Chabad. He has to be crushed to a pulp, as he deserves. Not personal – nevr personal! But this issue has to be beaten… Read more »

RABBI CHAIM MILLER
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RABBI CHAIM MILLER

Rabbi Chaim Miller (of Gutnik Chumash aka chassidus lite fame) is a known ‘chosid’ of Shmuley. He is the one who gives him a home in Crown Heights and is trying to re-introduce him into Chabad mainstream. This should stop. The Rabbi should be told forthwith that this must stop. Why is he given a platform to give shiurim in Crown Heights when he invites such danger into our midst? Maybe Meir Gutnik should have a word.

ZALMAN NO.5
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ZALMAN NO.5

For real? Consequences? What are the consequences? COL told him to buzz off – nothing goes down…other than Boteach, may this happen speedily in our days and let us say Amen.

mordechai
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mordechai

17, 32,& 36 are still holding out for “leadership” to do something. there is no leadership. the shluchim spend money on bringing him out because he’s a good draw card. they should be using that money for shlichus. the circus continues.

Kol Tov
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Kol Tov

Would you like me to help set up discussions or debate, public and-or private, between Rabbi Shmuley & Rabbi Wolf?

Could be interesting & useful — about the Title of the book and its content. Publicity and public pressures may lead to useful outcome (sometimes not).
~Dr. Cliff Brickman

collive
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collive

COL will hopefully be more careful when posting opeds and articles in the future to avoid a repeat of such a fracas.
The term “collive” should mean that one lives as Chabad expects one to live and not to create unworthy sensationalism..
Go from strength to strength, collive, and leave the Boteach circus to the non jewish media and TV.

SHMULEY MY OLD FRIEND...
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SHMULEY MY OLD FRIEND...

At first I thought you were an ultra-extremeist. Then I thought maybe just a clownish parody. Now I’m pretty sure its a medication issue. It’s really sad that YOU are trying to take ownership of a historcal figure like its the pink slip for a reallly nice car. He was here, he said and did some stuff, people wrote about him. Anything beyond that is pure faith. Believe, don’t believe, be unsure. Differing opinions of him are good for comparison, discussion and civil argument. Unfortunately, there are those that would use them for anything from hurt feelings to war. And… Read more »

While Boteach Spent Months
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While Boteach Spent Months

writing his book, did it at all occur to him that this is a book that may be trief, not kosher. In all the time this was being written, did he consult with a Posek, a Rov, a mashpia or even a friend. If he did, and got a green light, now is the time for this indivdual to step forward, publicly defend him, or publicly admit a mistake. If he did not consult with anyone, one must question his frum bonifides, men ret shein nisht for his Chassidish profile.

"editorial standards"
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"editorial standards"

24 and 37 are correct. I don’t agree with everything Rabbi Boteach does but it seems like COL’s reporting standards and journalistic integrity are frequently informed by bias. And it seems cowardly and hypocritical to devote webspace to a criticism of Rabbi Boteach and then deny him the opportunity to respond in the name of “the spirit of unity and love for one another.” I offer this criticism in a brotherly spirit, because COL is also a great resource for information about Lubavitch, and it is sad to see it undermined by petty fights and biases.

Poor Choice
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Poor Choice

SB’s choice for the title of his book is what caused the controversy. Had he called it anything else but KosherJ it would have probably been ignored.
He got the publicity one way or another, and all because he made j kosher… how ironic is that?

COL - KOLL HAKAVOD LACHEM
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COL - KOLL HAKAVOD LACHEM

from the fact it self, how angery boteach became, this it self brings out the trueth, VI DI VELT ZOGT: OIFEN GANEV BRENT DI HITEL… it is time for boteach to print a book with the name THE KOSHER CHAZER – and to put he`s picture on the front cover, and maby than people will understand and realiz, why he has written such books in the past ; and why he will continue writting such books in the future. the punch line of most of he`s writtigs and speeches, is to R”L REMOVE AND DESTROY THE HAVDOLOIS BEIN KOIDESH LECHOIL… Read more »

Happy with your decision
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Happy with your decision

I’ve chided you in the past for not having editorial discretion.
Thank you for showing some now! He should be persona non grata on your website from now on.

this is what he wants
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this is what he wants

he wants this publicity!
delete all articles on the subject

Ima Heer
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Ima Heer

I read Boteach’s original response. I cannot understand what COL is outraged about! True, he lumped together all of Chabad Chassidim for criticism. His remarks apply to only some narrow minded, but is well taken. He defended his book (which I haven’t read) as academic scholarship, which it very well may be. He certainly has a right to his opinion. He is not the first researcher to come up with the theory that J was a Jew, professing primarily Jewish values, albeit from a distorted point of view, which was later distorted further by his followers. Perhaps Boteach goes further… Read more »

im totally againt him...
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im totally againt him...

BUT PLEASE DONT BRING HIS CHILDREN IN THIS! poor them!

re 40
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re 40

now thats a great comment!

thanks
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thanks

Good for col. the last thing we need is to expose our families to this sick attempt to put a hechsher on the name that caused oceans of jewish blood to be shed. Im glad that this person thinks he is smarter than all the jews who have preceded him and only he can see this “truth”.

Collive didn't publish my comment once!
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Collive didn't publish my comment once!

Thank you collive for not posting my comment once. After thinking about the comment it may have been hurtful to some and I respect a site that does not post everybody anonymous garbage.
There are other Crown Heights sites that I have stopped going to because it seems the standards are not the same.

to 18
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to 18

when u look at the word zalman, sometimess it looks like laitzan.

Shame
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Shame

What a disgusting way to use children. If this was the case, you should never have posted Rabbi Wolf’s horrifying words in the first place. What he has said about Rabbi Boteach is the absolute worst representation of Chabad – his words will do far greater harm to children and youth than anything Rabbi Boteach has written. Because our kids are going off the derech because of this kind of oppressive, narrow thinking. As to parents phone calls about concerns for their children? Kindly tell them to get their kids off the internet! What a completely ludicrous excuse! Using children… Read more »

to 40
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to 40

Given the level of scholarship in this Kosher J book, we need to petition Amazon and B&N (and the Library of Congress) to have it reclassified as Fiction.

Ahavas Yisroel = Blessings!
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Ahavas Yisroel = Blessings!

it was unproffessional & highly suspicious when wolf put out his attack!

to publicly spew hatred under the guys of defending Judaism is wrong!

seriously
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seriously

Um, col, you posted the piece attacking him, you have to post his reponse. I could care less about an anonymous editorial board.
I love col and visit 5 times a day, but come on!!!!!

I Read Book
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I Read Book

He refers to Yoshke as Rabbi and turns him into a great Jewish leader. How misleading and frauduless. How can he get away with this.
Rabbi Boteach,
Every Sefer requires an Haskoma, if it is worthy of one. Please find one frum Rov and Posek to write an Haskomo on this Shtus. And he has the nerve to threaten with law suits. Go ahead Shmueli.

COL THIS IS A MISTAKE
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COL THIS IS A MISTAKE

He has effectively silenced you by your undertaking to no longer write about it! What a mistake. Now he will quietly go about his dangerous task. Kol hakovod that you did not print his trash. But let the criticism keep up. If one Jew goes astray on account of him it is on his head. But if anyone does because the protestations ceased on account of you, that’s on your head! Be brave!

Col did right
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Col did right

Col did right I would hope other sites would do the same this does not belong on a Jewish let alone Chabad Site. It is time to put S.B. on ignore Lo Meuktzoch Vlo Meduvshach. His true true colors are coming out with brazen Chutzpah. In Rambam Hilchos avodas Cochovim Perek 10 Haloco 2 “They oppress Jews and turn the nation away from Hashem like Yashua Hanotzri(J is not Kosher) and his students (I hope Shmuli is not one of his students) Tzodok Beisus and their students Shem Reshoim Yirkov” In hilchos Melochim Perek 11 Halocho 6 “Also Yashua (J)… Read more »

Kol Hakavod COLLIVE
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Kol Hakavod COLLIVE

You are truly giving nachas to the REbbe!

Personality Disorder
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Personality Disorder

SB seems to suffer from a personality disorder, namely narcissism. He’s not so smart, he’s not so intellectual but he loves to talk & write about himself & get attention.
Don’t feed his ego & he’ll sue you, typical.

Oh and BTW kids don’t belong on the Internet , period.

ENOUGH!
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ENOUGH!

In your article you state, “In the spirit of unity and love for one another, and in consultation with the COLlive editorial advisory board – comprised of a select group of respected rabbis and educators – we did post the back-and-forth exchange and we will not be publishing anything further on the topic. ” If you truly believe your own words, then the really right thing to do is for you to remove this article as well! At least, certainly the ability for readers to comment. Don’t you realize that by allowing this to remain up you are just defeating… Read more »

nice job
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nice job

I would like to thank col for improving their site. Although they are not perfect, and many times post inappropiate articles/pictures, slowly they are becoming better. Keep it up!

As an old friend of Shmuli from miami
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As an old friend of Shmuli from miami

You can;t have your cake ( chabad ) and eat it too ( Make books like this )

Feivish Vogel was wright all along!!!!! time for him to go to the OU and see how they embrace him….

true color
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true color

finally we see SB true colors. hes going this far as to show how shamless he is

well done
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well done

seems like he is mad because he can’t have his way. Maybe he would like to run for Rebbe, then he can dictate the changes.
I wonder if he ever went to the Rebbe, and if so, what did the Rebbe tell him?

maybe
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maybe

maybe we should not even cover his story updates and then he will be mad too. Seems like he is drumming up attention, or needs it

annoyed with COL
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annoyed with COL

I have no problem with COL deciding which articles they deem acceptable and I appreciate the fact that they monitor responses (for profanity, I assume). This is privately owned web site and can do what they want with it. (Or is it Chabad funded?) I have found that they will allow comments that are rude and offensive and even inappropriate, but will often deny comments I have tried to make because they might have been negative about some big shot in Chabad. Even comments I’ve made that were not negative have not been allowed. I understand that some comments might… Read more »

collive fan
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collive fan

Collive, we r with u!!! dont be afraid!

I am very proud of Collive!
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I am very proud of Collive!

Thank you for keeping editorial standards strong!
I should say, that even if it didnt have all the J things Boteach’s response does not belong on collive! how can you put him in equal with a very respectable Shliach who is working in the field of chinuch for over 35 years!
Boteach is a shameless attention seeker who only thinks about himself, Rabbi Wolf is the opposite who really cares about yidishe neshomos!
A Yahser Koach Rabbi Wolf and Yasher Koach Collive!

Shkoach col
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Shkoach col

For keeping it kosher

sue or not
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sue or not

Sorry to bust your little bubble today it is ok to sue look at the people who call themselves chabad hq there in court everyday suing fellow chasidim with our money .Oh sorry this is not either going to get published!

Poor Shmuley
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Poor Shmuley

Poor Shmuley…… Always the victim……. What a teribble life….. The man is always being wronged.

Sruly C
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Sruly C

The man was given tremendous G-d given talents, I see him on TV all the time, the Kidush Hahem he makes on a daily basis is unbelievlable.

The Rebbe said to work with Goyim and make the world a better place, he does that by doing humanitarian missions and Chesed projects.
Also this is a form of Sheva mitzvos bay Noach writing about J in a kosher way, cause over a billion people believe in that nonsense, he needs to open their eyes.

To numbers 9,15,17 and 26
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To numbers 9,15,17 and 26

To number 9 you are right the proper way to handle this situation is to remove all posts and articles related to this subject. To number 15 there is a very thin line between brave and brazen. Rabbi Boteach is a very controversial man but as is well known “the freethinking of one generation is the common sense of the next”. Rabbi wolf could have spoke to Rabbi Boteach directly and addressed the issues he had with his newest book. He chose to take a different route. Its seems as if he did not want an explanation to the issues… Read more »

We Love COLLIVE
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We Love COLLIVE

We all love you and will continue to support you COL!

Concerned parent
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Concerned parent

What im trying to understand is why COL felt the need to have to mention this whole debacle in the first place, nobody would have known about this book if it wern’t brought up here, as well as the fact that this is exactly what Boteach hoped for in the first place, he thrives on attention and it would be best if the jewish community just ignored him and let him fade away into obscurity.

THANK YOU COL!
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THANK YOU COL!

While I must admit, I don’t always agree with the editorial standards of COL, on this one you guys are spot on!
RSB writes a response where he sounds like a J freak. Quting the New Testament and J etc in half his article. How can any Jewish website post that?? It’s ludicrous that RSB felt that the way to defend himself is to prove that J was….

Birds of a feather
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Birds of a feather

I think Shmuely Boteach should go on tour with Matisyahu – for a good long time. It seems like both of them are having difficulty with the tests they’re being handed.

aMERIKA iz nisht andresh
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aMERIKA iz nisht andresh

I only wish Michangelo who painted the last supper…..would be around then he could of somehow painted or photoshop Sammy boteach into the last supper and make him the 13th apostle…. !!!!!! Thank G-D for Rabbi Wolf …wish to see more shluichim take a stand….and before Am Haratzim start with their comments about is this loving every jew? and the Rebbe was mekarev… etc dont change history… The Friediker Rebbe had a gabbai whose son married loi olenu a shiksa…before he married her the Rebbe told him if you marry her you cant come to 770 anymore The gabbai in… Read more »

Yesh Koine oilomoi bishoh achas
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Yesh Koine oilomoi bishoh achas

COL, you did the right thing – Chazak Chazak V’nischazek!

As a side note, the fact that there was even a hava amina that you will publish it tells me that we have a lot of soul searching to do.

I appreciate that COL isn't giving him platform
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I appreciate that COL isn't giving him platform

Perhaps the catholic church should be given platform to respond on COLLIVE? Perhaps Achmadinejad should be given a platform to respond to anti Achmadinejad articles on collive? We live in an era of free press and a CHABAD website SHOULD have biases in its reporting. It SHOULD be Biased towards promoting Chabad and Yiddishkeit and not Apikorsus (or certainly borderline apikorsus). Thank you Collive for knowing your core loyal audience and resisting Boteach’s bullying.

Thank you COL
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Thank you COL

Being that he is a brilliance man, makes him very dangerous!

thats dumb
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thats dumb

your “standards” are quiet low if you are not willing to respect freedom of speech.

Thank you
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Thank you

A big Yasher Koi’ach to R’ Feivish Vogel of London for terminating Mr. Boteach’s official association with Chabad while he was just crossing his first lines.

NEVER CAME BACK
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NEVER CAME BACK

#21 (The real reason he came back)
S.B. never came back. Unfortunately, some Lubavitchers lowered their standards and took him back.

i like Shmuley but not this time
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i like Shmuley but not this time

I ask Shmuley to name me ONE orthodox rabbi in the entire world that would have him do a book signing in their shul for this book. ONE!!

A living example
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A living example

Im very glad to here that Collive has standards which they do not break, it’s high time other sites learns from them.

Please
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Please

Sorry COL but if your readership doesn’t want to read the conversation, then you shouldn’t have posted Rabbi Wolf’s article. The NYT readership doesn’t want to read a defense for Israel, but is it fair that they only print attacks against Israel? Lastly, had Rabbi Immanuel Shochet or YY Jacobson wrote this book there would zero outrage in Lubavitch. Zero.

Yshar Koach
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Yshar Koach

You are the chabad website i visit and trust my children to visit! I really like all the shiurim! Have more of them!

Boteach
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Boteach

Shmuley Boteach is a dangerous man. Don’t trust him for even a second.

to shmuley boteach
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to shmuley boteach

do you mind living us alone?

you don’t live among us, you don’t think like us, you don’t talk like us so why are you saying that you are one of us?????!!

Rabbi Wolf's reponse
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Rabbi Wolf's reponse

To all those saying that Rabbi Wolf’s article should not have been originally posted , i disagree
A mecha’ah against this book was a MUST
There are times when rabbonim are not allowed to sit back shev ve’al taashe
And there is no freedom of speech in the Torah On this topic there are no two sides and collive should have even thought of allowing SB to respond

Shameful
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Shameful

It is shamesful to read on Huffington Post, Boteach comparing sayings of Yoshke to L’Havdil Divrei Chazal. I challenge Rabbi Boteach to get one Haskoma on his book , even one from a frumer Posek Dinim Rav. We salute Rabbi Wolf. I know him since his Shlichus in Australia. Very few Shluchim can equal his accomplishments. Chicago, from what Anash there tell me, would never be what it is today, without R Wolf. The Cheder is one of the best in the world of Lubavitch. As a result they now have a boys and girls Mesivta/high with standing room only… Read more »

let him defend himself
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let him defend himself

shouldn’t we give the man the benfit of the doubt? dont be so quick to judge

Shmuly i daven for you
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Shmuly i daven for you

You can’t be cured if you don’t realize your not well
You want lubavitch and shluchim to be Shmuly style sorry Shmuly the Rebbe didn’t have you’re style of bringing yidden closer to the truth

collive's red line
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collive's red line

I am happy to see that there is a line that they will not cross, but I think that line needs to be elevated.

Boteach on who J was....
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Boteach on who J was....

For anyone aroused bu curiosity to even think of reading his book.. All his assertions are already discussed in many books and seforim (Otzar Yisroel, Sefer Havikuchim etc..) regardless of his assertion that J may have not wanted Jews to stray from Torah.. He clearly had an agenda of Kefirah 2) Another point; His description of the christian world is the core issue as this is the key belief in his fame stc.. Boteach wants to reinvent the wheel on a new J which even if true will not change the established christian belief. 3) His approach is similar in… Read more »

Can S.B. be included in a minyan?
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Can S.B. be included in a minyan?

SB’s emotions have gotten the better of him. He is having a panal discussion in a church in early February. Do you any other C. Chosid that enters a church? The drivel he has put up on his site against Rabbi wolf is disgusting. Rabbi Wolf now ‘heads’ a movement of rabble rousers?!?! Rabbi Wolf is now responsible for comments to an op-ed he penned? RW does not have the right to express his opinion any longer? Someone needs to put up a petition to rid Shmuley Boteach from orthodoxy based on his own writings. Only Rabbi’s from many walks… Read more »

what a narcissistic hack!
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what a narcissistic hack!

When you see his comments on FB and everything he’s doing what it shows is a total lack of shame and a huge ego the size of NJ…naaa…heck the Empire State itself. What a chutzpa, especially after being given the option of removing certain excerpts from his book but wouldn’t! Furthermore, his scorched earth policy is now threatening all of Lubavitch and shluchim who are against him by lumping us all as “chareidim” (in the pejorative) and “fanatics who have to be removed from mainstream Judaism…” His true colors are now coming out. This doesn’t just jump out all of… Read more »

Ejecting Shmuley
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Ejecting Shmuley

I don’t understand what Rabbi Wolf means by ejecting Shmuley from Chabad. How exactly does he imagine this happening?

There is no one who can eject someone from Chabad. Only the individual can eject themselves; and Shmuley is proving himself quite capable of ejecting himself from us, our community, and our way of thinking. Let’s leave him to it.

americas rabbi
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americas rabbi

shmuly you immature child! whats a great man like you “americas rabbi” reckoning with a website like COL!

The point of the matter...
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The point of the matter...

1) Reagrdless of his assertions J as is believed by 2 billion christians is Avoda Zarah. Agrrred by all gedoei Yisroel 2) A general rule is you can’t reinvent the wheel. to change a given perception of Yiddin all Doros.. See rabbi S. Riskin book on a pesak from R’ Moshe on onewanting to pasul Teffilin of kellal Yisrael 3) His whole derech is to change the ways of Chabad as established by the Rebbe, although not openly addmitting it, he argues aginst peulos and an embarking on engaging with non Jews in matters of Kefirah and pritzus etc 4)… Read more »

KRAFTY
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KRAFTY

THE TiTLE OF THE BOOK WAS A PRINTERS ERROR……IT SHOULD HAVE SAiD ” KOSHER CHEESES”

Thanks COL!
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Thanks COL!

It really shows that ven s’iz do a fayer, es brent, and there are standards. I agree with 105, maybe they should be elevated a bit as well. As hatzlocha comes only from hashem, it will only have a positive effect as opposed to (onlay) a chance of losing popularity.

#88
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#88

Your comment is very very funny!!!! and true!!!!!

AGREE WITH #85
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AGREE WITH #85
Thank you number 90
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Thank you number 90

You put it best!!!

thank you Rabbi Wolf and thank you to Collive
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thank you Rabbi Wolf and thank you to Collive

I used to see SB articles in the Jewish Press and wondered why no one stopped it ; giving him an international platformno less! This exposure of who he really is comes as a great relief. We do feel for his family but what he does effects alot of innocent people. In this case it needed to be discussed openly and for people to know the truth.

kosher shmuly
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kosher shmuly

coming soon. kosher shmuly. How chabad let him go without a fight. You will learn about the jewish patriat the real Rabbi shmuly.

Shmuly you are making the same mistake
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Shmuly you are making the same mistake

Shmuly, you are making the same mistake as your book’s subject. You are cutting yourself away from the communitty. It didnt work out well for the first one. Who will write the book “The Kosher Shmuly”

COL did the right thing!!!
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COL did the right thing!!!
If you can't finish it...
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If you can't finish it...

Don’t start it. I agree with taking down Rabbi Boteach’s post. I don’t agree with putting up Rabbi Wolf’s in the first place. Rabbi Boteach wrote a book with J as the topic. If you post an article blasting him, how can he be asked to respond to the allegations without mentioning the topic of the book he is defending? The appropriate thing to do for a kosher website would have been to stay out of this altogether.

Educate yourselves
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Educate yourselves

Google Image Boteach’s book, and you’ll see a partial picture of someone who has a hole in his palm from being nailed to a “piece of wood” who’s worshiped in churches. Yes, they pray to him, to J who SB says should now be considered kosher! On that cover, that avoda zara mamosh which is depicted will be described as kosher, along with a reminder about the previous “best seller” which makes something else שלא ישמע על פיך kosher. In SB response that can be read on other sites, you’ll see multiple quotes from the new testament, which we may… Read more »

FINALLY!
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FINALLY!

Thank you so much for not posting more on this already dead topic.

Gulp!!!
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Gulp!!!

Collive is SO biased! They only publish articles promoting Chabad and not Aish and Ohr Sameach?! AISH should sue Collive’s pants off!!

tired of it
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tired of it

Rabbi Boteach has brought awareness of legitimate topics to Jews across the world. It’s not only Chabad and the Shluchim’s office who spread Judaism. Sometimes it takes a radical step to reach a radical generation. Get off of your high horses and come back to reality. There’s more to Judaism than Kingston Ave…. read the book before you judge the man or his work. Controversy like this makes me reconsider my devotion to Chabad. I guess I’ll have to remember the reasons I consider myself a Lubavitcher – and its NOT because of its followers.

His next book will be KOSHER MURDER
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His next book will be KOSHER MURDER

His first was KOSHER Giluy Aroyos
His next is KOSHER Avoda Zara
Im sure that his next one will be KOSHER MURDER!

JUST GO AWAY!!

What has he done?
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What has he done?

Does anyone know anything that this guy accomplished in the past ten years?

To #97
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To #97

Please don’t dare to put Rabbi Schochet or Rabbi Jacobsen on the same level as Shmueli Boteach!! They would never write such drivel, and it’s actually a crying shame that R. Schochet is not in a position to be able to respond to it. That would have put paid to all doubters once and for all!!

If Boteach thought for a moment
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If Boteach thought for a moment

If Boteach took a step back to think maturely, he would see how low he fell and would hug Rabbi Wolf, COL staff and every commenter that woke him up with their harsh words (when someone is in spiritual cardiac arrest, one must pull out the defibrillator and administer heavy duty electric shocks), and then he would call his publisher and cancel the book. Difficult, of course, after all he invested much time and fortune into it, but if he tosses the book in the trash, I don’t believe he will regret it reflecting back to that day on his… Read more »

Rabbi Wolf is a hero
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Rabbi Wolf is a hero

Thank you col for taking a stand for Yiddishkeit. Thank you Rabbi Wolf for doing what the leadership in Lubavitch should of done.
The Rebbe is proud of both of you and you should be greatly blessed accordingly . Wasnt Pinchas a little to drastic .A magafer of our kinderlach is going on when we dont see our Moshe Rabenu and people exploit this situation .
Look at mesechta Avoda Zora 17a and the story of Rashis father – absolutely NO commentary is needed

Rabbi Botech is 100% right!!
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Rabbi Botech is 100% right!!

he is right and people just cant admit it!!

Rabbi Wolf and Col are kosher
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Rabbi Wolf and Col are kosher

In an age of so much darkness thank Hashem someone is doing the right think,

Jews for Judaism
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Jews for Judaism

i emailed them and asked what they think of this new book. the said, “We are concerned and currently working on a statement and review of the book. Stand by…”

Why were my comments edited?!
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Why were my comments edited?!

I am #107. I mentioned a psak from the Rambam and COL would not print it?! The rambam holds J & x-ianity in the category of shituf. Shituf is acceptable and even admirable for gentiles (the Rambam adds that gentiles following this religion has brought the concept of Moshiach closer and more real to this world). It is avoda zora mamosh for Jews to hold the same beliefs. SB is out there dissemenating AZ mamosh to Jew and gentile alike and is the reason he should be excommunicated from klal yisroel until he renounces what was written in his name.

You win!
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You win!

COL,

Your editorial sense is not only allot better then the other sites, but your editorial sense is really great.

But I would suggest that you exclude allot of the contreversy you publish, in the frame of op-ed’s etc.

Alexa says that you are number 1 in Chabad and Crown Heights.

A COL Fan

thank you COL!!
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thank you COL!!

thank you for doing that. and keep it up!! NO MORE RABBI B!! WOOHOO!!

Thank you COL
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Thank you COL

Thank you COL for upholding Torah standards.
Thank you Rabbi Wolf for speaking up when it was needed.
Shmuley, it’s never too late!! Denounce ALL the shtussim….and use your talents like an emesse chossid…
Old friends who believe beemuna shelema that you can do it, be’H!

yasher koach col
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yasher koach col

the book is not for us, it is to help what the rambam says in hilchois melachim that J will prepare the world for Mosheach. and rabbi boteach is taking his messege to the world. but it has no room R”L in our circels.

Rabbi Boteach
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Rabbi Boteach

…at least he has a brain , perhaps collive and the Lubi’s are little to narrow minded.( although I do respect and admire their work)
R Boteach is a breath of fresh air .
Go Shmuley!!!

Hasskomo On HIs Sefer
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Hasskomo On HIs Sefer

Here is Rabbi Biteach’s First Haskomo on his Sefer. A must read. How does Wolf put it, You Be The Judge”

http://rabbimichaelsamuel.com/2012/01/thoughts-on-shmuley-boteachs-new-book-kosher-jesus/

we will not be publishing anything further on the topic.
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we will not be publishing anything further on the topic.

Come on!

Bring it!

Don’t let COL be bullied by Yoshke and his friends!

to '#35
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to '#35

farkert we see that chassdidim DO GO TO COURT!” Time and time again!

#43
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#43

Your attack on Chaim Miller is appalling. “Chasidus lite”? The Gutnick chumash is an incredible work of scholarship which brings the rebbe’s rashi sichos to the masses. R’ Miller’s knowledge is awesome and he is spreading the mayanos literally. You owe a retraction.

quote from hayom yom
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quote from hayom yom

The reason for not studying Torah on nittel-night,1 I heard from my father, is to avoid adding vitality.

My father once said: Those diligent students who begrudge those eight hours and cannot tear themselves away from study – I am not fond of them. This (abstaining from study) applies only until midnight.

guess what mr boteach-the rebbe didnt want to give validity to mr yoshky-so why are you?
are you smarter or more enlightened or holier than the rebbe?

good that we got some standards, but
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good that we got some standards, but

“Indeed, after being alerted by our readers, we reviewed Boteach’s article and chose to remove.”

What does this mean? that you haven’t reviewed it before posting?
We’re talking about J. here, and it’s not like SB has any credibility for keeping things clean and kosher.

To Boteach
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To Boteach

When Matisyahu shaved his beard off, hardly going off the deep end, rather a small step backwards (sadly), the first article about it on collive garnered more than 400 comments. You going TOTALLY off the deep end barely got half. You’re a loser which not many have interest in you! Have a nice life.

Boteach has no shame
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Boteach has no shame

He will sell ANYTHING for fame. Torah standards. He can join the mishichistim who eat on Tisha B’Av. He can find justification for anything. He is good with debating so let us give him achance to explain why Chazir is kosher.
I think that should be the title of his next book the Kosher Ham.

Great idea...
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Great idea...

As suggested by #87, Shmully and Matisyohu should go on a
tour together. Title? Tzu zingen un tzu zogen!

Yasher Koach COL!
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Yasher Koach COL!

I want to thank COL for taking the right step in this instance upholding editorial standards. Yasher koach!

yasher koach
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yasher koach

yasher koach col

Thanks COL for standing for Yiddishkeit
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Thanks COL for standing for Yiddishkeit

And let me explain how deep this runs, for all those who think you need to read the book, and not finds SB’s quotes from his book sufficient indication of what it is about. It is beneficial to transcribe here part of what the Rebbe writes in אג”ק ח”ב דף ר”א . This provides all-around clarification why Yidden rejected יש”ו in spite of anything that SB or others can write about J and the closeness of his messages to Yiddishkeit. For those who don’t understand the original Hebrew, the upshot is, that the original Christians were Jews, who for the… Read more »

To 143 CHAIM MILLER
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To 143 CHAIM MILLER

Chaim Miller is a good man, don’t get me wrong. But (a) the Gutnik Chumash is hardly a work of scholarship unless you’re average, but it serves a purpose. (b) He is the one courting Boteach and exposing this menace back into Crown Heights. He has a quiet agenda with Boteach and you need to be aware and alert to that. It’s always the quiet ones. Next time you see Boteach walking our streets, look behind him and I assure you C. Miller will be only a few feet behind. I would bet my bottom dollar C. Miller called him… Read more »

Yasher Koach COLlive
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Yasher Koach COLlive

A fellow Shliach and COLlive reader in Paris, France

Proud of you on this one!!

3 cheers for COLLive!
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3 cheers for COLLive!

the best news site available.

to 152 above
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to 152 above

you state
…Gutnick Chimash is hardly a work of scholarship unless you’re average…
that statement alone says volumes about your capacity to see, know and understand others around you, including those you differ with in terms of opinion and haskofo
.
Statements like that are commonplace and thrive, and keep the HUGE support shmuley has and will continue at places all over the world inculding CAY here in CH.
Think about it ladies and gentlemen!
Good Shabbos.

The sad reality
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The sad reality

1) For all the “peace lovers” who think this is loshon horo. learn halocho this is a question of avodo zora mamosh which has to be dealt with, in the public, by a competent rov lest many fall as is clearly seen on these comments. 2) The real problem are his comments in the conference which were quoted in haaretz, which he has not retracted which are hepech halocho mamosh. 2) The sad reality is that people have gone off the beaten track – and think that this is chabads way. Imagine what would the Rebbe have said about this… Read more »

New Shlichus
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New Shlichus

We heard Shmuley’s been offered chabad of the Vatican.

coll live
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coll live

keep it up

Col is improving thier kashrus!
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Col is improving thier kashrus!

yelchu mechayil el chayil
hopefully one day they will totally eliminate all slanted or derogatory articles and especially comments

Chose: the ten commandments or the 11th?
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Chose: the ten commandments or the 11th?

“God gave 10 commandments at Sinai, and the 11th commandment, which they expunged but which has come down orally, is ‘Thou shalt do anything for publicity and recognition’.” – Shmuly Boteach

for clarities sake
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for clarities sake

are there two Chaim Millers in chabad who make there living from writing?

WWTRS
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WWTRS

What would the Rebbe say????

Bullies---ALL of YOU!
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Bullies---ALL of YOU!

Last I checked we live in the United States of America with FREEDOM of SPEECH and– FREEDOM of PRESS Rabbi Boteach did NOTHING WRONG by publishing a book. YOU get to decide if you want to buy it and read it or not. WHY all the Boteach Bashing? You are all nothing more than PLAYGROUND BULLIES ganging up on someone and not even letting him defend himself. NEWS FLASH: If you don’t approve of what he published… DON’T BUY IT— BUT PLEASE ENOUGH OF THE INCESSANT WHINING! Maybe we should all chip in and buy Rabbi Wolf a class or… Read more »

The whole point of the Torah.. to love your fellow as yourself
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The whole point of the Torah.. to love your fellow as yourself

My fellow jews.. please! These spiteful comments send chills down my spine.. Let’s top worrying about the wrong others are doing and start looking at ourselves.. inside.. Whatever ‘wrong’ you think Shmuly is doing.. are u doing any better by posting malicious remarks against a fellow jew? Do you know the impact you are having on people who read this and see the hate/jealous/negativity we have in us? Do you know how much your statements could be negatively affecting his children ( I know them a few of them personally and they are all wonderful people so kol hakavod to… Read more »

shocked myself
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shocked myself

I too was shocked to find out Chaim Miller is a serious mushpah of Shmuly Boteach. I don’t know him at all nor have anything against him ch”v nor do I really know too much what happens in CH altogether. However, using the Gutnick Chumash and planning to buy more and other books from this fine publishing house to hear this saddens me and makes me suspicious. If Chaim Miller is an intellectual he should be able to discern not only intellectuality, which SB is not, and truth and Chassidus which SB for sure is not. As such it would… Read more »

agree with 105
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agree with 105

please raise your standards beyond what people say/write. Songs from non-jewish sources (to put it mildly) is giving vitality to avoda zora too-and should never be put on your site.

what he should have done
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what he should have done

He should have marketed his book ONLY for Christians. His big mistake was thinking it would at all be relevant to Jews.

Badchan of the Vatican?
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Badchan of the Vatican?

To 157: I would just like to correct a small error in your wording. Didn’t you mean Badchan of the Vatican?

#163
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#163

How ironic to respond to Wolf and others outcry abour SB’s Avoda Zora with bashing Wolf’s grammar

Your attitude is Showing
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Your attitude is Showing

Please at All cost avoid Negativity and be very Positive and fly with Eagles as walk with Torah Scholars. Life is way to short and being upset only knocks days off your life as being Positive theres no stress as days are added to your life avoiding stress and confrontation. Love your Fellow Jew and LET IT GO.Again let go anything thats bothering you and making you upset.Dont worry about trhe small things all things are small.
BH,Jeffrey Tobias Portland Chabad

Pathological Attention Seeker
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Pathological Attention Seeker

I have known Shmuly Boteach since he was a young Bochur. Unfortunately, he is a pathological attention seeker.

You fell for it!
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You fell for it!

You’ve all fallen into Boteach’s trap… with 171 posts and counting, he’s dominating the conversation. That’s what he wants and thrives on, publicity. He wants to be talked about. See how his HuffPost column goes out of the way to quote his critics in lurid detail!

If you want Boteach to go away, then ignore him.

A Challenge To Boteach
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A Challenge To Boteach

I read the Book and I draw conclusions. a) Kosher J rejects Rambam’s opinion on JC b) Kosher J rejects 2000 years of Rabbinical attitudes and opinions towards JC c) Kosher J relies heavily on the New Testament d) Kosher J calls for Jews to recognize JC as an authentic Jewish Rabbi If Boteach gets a written Daas Torah-Halachik ruling approval from the foremost Jewish Rabbinical authorities of our time, we would accept the book and his campaign to recognize JC with open arms. We urge Boteach to approach Chief Rabbi Lau, Rabbi Yosef S Eliyashuv, Rabbi Zalman N Goldberg… Read more »

We're in trouble
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We're in trouble

I have to say that as a Jew I am ashamed. In these times of hate amongst us, we have not seen hate like this in almost 80 years, we are once again against one another. We live with the bumper stickers “Moshiach Now” knowing full well Moshiach will not be upon us until we all live in peace. That is not peace amongst the non-jew and the Jew. It is peace amongst the Jews! So Rabbi Boteach wrote a book saying that the religion a majority of the world follows evolved form Judaism. If we think the missionaries are… Read more »

Time to grow up, Shmully....
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Time to grow up, Shmully....

Dear Shmully, I thought you had more class – or at least self-respect. Do you really believe that – for whatever reasons you may have – you can offend the religious sensibilities of a large group of people, and then have the gall to demand a forum?! If you truly desired an honest exchange of ideas, perhaps you should have bothered consulting people BEFORE disgracing yourself with what looks like another reckless attempt to sensationalize yourself. You may be arrogant, selfish, and even truly misguided, but you are not stupid. So now that you’ve treated us to your next attempt… Read more »

Treatment ASAP
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Treatment ASAP

There is no other way to say it: Boteach is an addict.

Follow his track record, his words and actions and you will get to the same conclusion: Boteach is addicted to himself. His narcissistic posts on Twitter and Facebook, his constant drive for publicity for the sake of publicity, his references to himself make you wonder why isn’t he checked in to some treatment center in LA.

RABBI B COHEN
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RABBI B COHEN

BOTEACH SEEKS TO LEGITIMISE THE NEW TESTAMENT LEHAVDIL AND YESHU ON PAR WITH TENACH AND NEVIIM. HE CLEARLY HAS LOST HIS SPIRITUAL AND CHABAD COMPASS IF NOT HIS MIND!!!!!

THE LETZER DOR
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THE LETZER DOR

IS IT TRUE SB IS NOW PREPARING TO INTRODUCE A NEW KOSHER JUDEO/CHRISTIAN SIDDUR WITH A NEW BROCHOH ADDED FOR GOOD MEASURE ENDING… ” BOTEACH IVRIM ”

Letter from Rabbi J. Immanuel Schochet about 'Kosher J'
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Letter from Rabbi J. Immanuel Schochet about 'Kosher J'

21 Teves 5772 Sholom U’Brochoh, Regarding the recent controversy surrounding a book released by Shmuley Boteach titled ‘Kosher J’, I am writing this letter to express my authoritative view in response to those who have sought my opinion on the matter. While it is not normally my style to write letters of condemnation, having read the book, I feel it poses a tremendous risk to the Jewish community and therefore imperative to state my halachic opinion that it is forbidden for anyone to buy or read this book or give its author a platform in any shape or form to… Read more »

attention 140 and those who will try to follow the link
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attention 140 and those who will try to follow the link

it seems it was removed by the author. so can you kindly please summarise?

Shmuley Stinks!!!
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Shmuley Stinks!!!

Bravo Rabbi Yitzchak Schochet. Bravo. Excellent response to Shmuleys idiotic and empty claims. Rabbi Immanuel is 1000% right in banning this garbage disguised as a book. Why would a jew even consider writing a book about J, in any context? Very simple. Glory and money. PERIOD. Let’s be real Shmuley, it’s all about the Benjamins. But remember Shmuley as the Torah says: “Those who run after glory, it evades them”. SHAME SHAME SHAME on you Shmuley for selling out and selling out your people for the mighty dollar. Shmuley, you are a money whore and media whore, nothing more. As… Read more »

shuley boteach blasts Collive
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shuley boteach blasts Collive

I read the book. The problem is that Rabbi Boteach says that Jews can learn from “J” and he calls him a great rabbi. The problem is that in order to “learn’ anything from “J” one must read the only source which are the Gospels. Does Rabbi J intend for Jewish Children to read the Gospels? Should we be teaching a course in the Gospels at our Yeshivot?

Hypocrisy
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Hypocrisy

Well, I posted a response to one of Shmuley’s ridiculous articles on Fluffington Post after having registered an account on the site, and the post was banned. I was simply voicing criticism; nothing shocking at all. It seems the “rabbi” has one standard for himself and another for all the lowly others. And yes, I agree that he most certainly demonstrates narcissistic tendencies.

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