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So EASILY preventable!!
November 18, 2020 3:54 pm

A small piece of cloth. A bit of discomfort. If everyone in NYC would be wearing masks, the schools would not be closing! For now, in CH the schools are open. But if you want to ensure they stay open, the easiest and most proven way is WEAR A MASK!! In shul, in school, WEAR A MASK. Stop making l’chaims! Stop whining about your life being ruined – and take measures that ensure the schools stay open. It’s simple. Yes, it’s scientific, and it’s simple. If you want our kids in school, stop being the ‘expert’ who goes around saying… Read more »

Everything you said is promoting conspiracy theory
Reply to  So EASILY preventable!!
November 18, 2020 4:50 pm

If I already got the virus and don’t dont have it anymore who and what am I protecting by wearing a mask?!

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You'll be a good citizen!
Reply to  Everything you said is promoting conspiracy theory
November 18, 2020 6:07 pm

Wear the damn mask!! Why not?? As stated above, if everyone wore a mask, the public schools would be open! You want CH schools to stay open? You and you and you and you…and your friends, and your relatives….WEAR A MASK! If we all wore masks, our school would stay open for sure! But we’ll continue having stupid gatherings (oh, yes, sure, very holy gatherings!) and shuls will be packed and maskless, a few will wear but most will not…and then the great brouhaha when the schools are forced to close! We pay a hell of a lot to send… Read more »

Enough
Reply to  You'll be a good citizen!
November 18, 2020 7:48 pm

FREEDOM! Thats why!

Cher
Reply to  You'll be a good citizen!
November 18, 2020 7:53 pm

You sure sound like a crown heights. cuz Outside, in the rest of the country, you cant go anywhere without a mask.
Seems to be helping doesnt it

Be Masked!
Reply to  You'll be a good citizen!
November 18, 2020 7:57 pm

Over and over again the medical experts say that the surest way to control – not defeat or cure – but to control the spread of the virus is by wearing masks. Without each person making their own cheshbon, everyone should wear a mask. It’s really simple. It only gets complicated when you start looking for loopholes and heters and anything to serve yourself. If you’re a decent human being, you’re wearing a mask. Period.

Covid religious cult
Reply to  Be Masked!
November 19, 2020 6:01 pm

Not true. Many doctors-e.g Dr Simone Gold MD and Dr Zev Zelenko MD- actually say that masks don’t do anything. The virus is too tiny to be contained by the mask. Masks simply don’t work and could actually exacerbate the problem – as you are breathing in your own bacteria, blocking your airflow and weakening your immune system.

Anonymous
Reply to  Everything you said is promoting conspiracy theory
November 18, 2020 7:23 pm

You are only protecting the massive government overreach that thinks it can force you to do something totally unnecessary for yourself because it knows what is best for you, even better than you.

And to all those not wearing a mask, you are protecting everyone’s individual civil liberties.
And for that I thank you

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It's NOT about civil liberties!
Reply to  Anonymous
November 19, 2020 11:19 am

Berel – I don’t want to be outside when your’e driving. Clearly you don’t stop for stop signs or at red lights if you don’t feel like it. Your civil liberties!

Torah discussion
Reply to  Everything you said is promoting conspiracy theory
November 19, 2020 1:57 am

When will the discussion be based on a halachic response, instead of emotion? For example, I’d argue that wearing a mask, even if you thought you can’t transmit, is at minimum maret ayin, appearing to others that we don’t need masks, like the appearence of doing something questionable on Shabbos. Second, although there is a prohibition to do as non-Jews, but this is only with fashion, and activities, not public health, Hashem y’rachem. Third, in matters of pikuach nefesh, like mivtzoim, we go to the furthest degree, like when the Rebbe says that even if you only ask someone if… Read more »

Covid cult
Reply to  Torah discussion
November 19, 2020 5:51 pm

Time after time, the authorities have never missed an opportunity to show how corrupt they are and how they simply cannot be trusted. Yet, here you are advocating for people to follow their directives blindly and without question

Crown heights
Reply to  So EASILY preventable!!
November 18, 2020 4:53 pm

There are studies saying that mask do not help. It’s the government is controlling you. all these years when people have the flu people with dying no one said nothing. Government wants to control your life

Perfect Example:
Reply to  Crown heights
November 18, 2020 6:03 pm

This is exactly a perfect example of STUPIDITY, IGNORANCE, and irresponsible crazy conspiracy theory!!
You might think you’re so cool, but this whole ‘govenment wants to control you’ thing is old, old stuff…and just shows your abject ignorance !

Anonymous
Reply to  Perfect Example:
November 18, 2020 7:27 pm

Prove it.
I can prove the opposite.

Enough
Reply to  Perfect Example:
November 18, 2020 7:49 pm

Show me studies that prove masks do anything?

Kop Doktar
Reply to  Enough
November 19, 2020 12:19 am

Show me studies that prove wearing pants does anything?! Yet, we are forced to wear pants in public. If you wear pants, you can also wear masks. I don’t want to share your air and I don’t want to see your underwear.

Covid religious cult
Reply to  Perfect Example:
November 19, 2020 5:56 pm

Yes, because big goverment has your best interests at heart. Cuomo and De Blasio are alltrulistic and selfless men who really care about you and your well being. And they never miss an opportunity to show that… Starting with the nursing home debacle not to mention how they treat the BLM movement vs how they treat the Jewish community .

And our long history in Europe and other parts of the world also shows that big goverment really cares. They have absolutely no interest in controlling you and have no ulterior motives. No, none at all.

Flu and masks
Reply to  Crown heights
November 18, 2020 6:53 pm

Just by the way, if you read about flu this year- numbers are down more than usual. It’s being attributed to mask wearing and precautions being taken for Covid. Masks do help reduce germ spread. Not eliminate it completely, but helps!

Anonymous
Reply to  Flu and masks
November 19, 2020 11:00 am

And strep cases are way up. I wonder why?

Moshiach Now!!!
Reply to  Crown heights
November 19, 2020 1:48 pm

Overuse of Masks can be dangerous and can cause chas veshalom bacterial infection

Chilul Hashem
Reply to  So EASILY preventable!!
November 18, 2020 4:55 pm

And, not wearing a mask is a big Chilul Hashem too.

Berel
Reply to  So EASILY preventable!!
November 18, 2020 5:06 pm

Can you stop making stuff up.

We don’t know how great the effect would be and signs are pointing to that not very:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-facemasks/danish-study-finds-face-masks-provide-limited-protection-to-wearer-idUSKBN27Y1YW

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It's not about YOU! it's not for the wearer!
Reply to  Berel
November 18, 2020 6:01 pm

All along the science has promoted mask wearing to protect the OTHER person, not you! Both your ignorance and your selfishness are astounding!!

Anonymous
Reply to  It's not about YOU! it's not for the wearer!
November 18, 2020 7:29 pm

How can you force someone to wear something for someone else when a) they don’t want to b) they don’t need to?

Kop Doktar
Reply to  Anonymous
November 19, 2020 12:22 am

“Q. How can you force someone to wear something for someone else when a) they don’t want to b) they don’t need to?”

A. The same way they can force you to wear pants, even when you don’t want to, and you feel you don’t need to, they make you wear pants in public!

A philosopher you're not...
Reply to  Kop Doktar
November 19, 2020 7:34 am

They cant force you. I wear a skirt:)

Anonymous
Reply to  Kop Doktar
November 19, 2020 10:38 am

The mask is for medical purposes. This is government overreach.
And I see lots of people walking around with their pants half down without being threatened with fines or summons. Why?

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Chosid
Reply to  Kop Doktar
November 19, 2020 3:15 pm

LMMO: Laughing my mask off!

Covid religious cult
Reply to  It's not about YOU! it's not for the wearer!
November 19, 2020 6:11 pm

The science has promoted mask wearing ? Really? If you can make such a definitive statement, then back it up and provide evidence. Name your sources.

Many good doctors have come out to state that masks do NOT work – including Dr Zev Zelenko and Dr Simone Gold MD.

Do you get your information from the authorities (e.g Cuomo and De Blasio) ? According to these same authorities (aka “scientists”), the virus does not appear to target mass BLM protests and riots. It must be a very “Smart” virus

read your own link
Reply to  Berel
November 18, 2020 7:58 pm

It says it provided limited protection to wearer – maybe. But it sure provides some measure of protection to the other person. And that’s why you should wear a mask.

So your saying....
Reply to  So EASILY preventable!!
November 18, 2020 7:36 pm

All those obedient goyim wore masks but their schools closed down anyways…they listened way better then us according to you because we don’t wear masks…this article btw is about public schools… they listened …but still closed …they wore masks all day in class (I know first hand) and they are still closed…so why are you preaching wear a mask as if that helped the public schools…please explain why you are ranting about something unevetible…

Unreal
November 18, 2020 5:00 pm

People are going around as if the virus does not exist. We are next…we will be forced to close our schools but no one cares..as long as they can party and do as they please. Wake up and open your eyes to what is going on around you.

Berel
Reply to  Unreal
November 18, 2020 5:53 pm

What is unreal is that an entirely arbitrary positive % of administered tests triggers a shut down of all life on our planet because our betters decree it. I thought this was about not overwhelming the medical system… Remember when this was about not overwhelming the medical system… Well now apparently it’s simply about preventing people from getting the virus. Virus avoidance, in other words, something that has never been done in human history. There is no degree of isolation that anybody can say will guarantee this virus doesn’t hold beyond whatever arbitrary number our betters pull out of their… Read more »

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Enough
Reply to  Berel
November 18, 2020 7:51 pm

So true and the death rate is extremely low. Plus positive rate among school children is 0.17%

NYC public schools teachers' union
Reply to  Berel
November 18, 2020 9:34 pm

That number 3% was part of a deal the NYC public school teachers’ union made with NYC in August. The teachers said that they would return to in-person classroom teaching as long as the city agreed to shut down the public schools when the positivity rate reached 3%. That is the reason for that arbitrary number. This does not affect private schools. However, as we all know, the coronavirus number of deaths and hospitalizations across the USA is the highest it has ever been since the beginning of the pandemic right now. In several states they now have run out… Read more »

So EASILY preventable!!
Reply to  Unreal
November 18, 2020 6:00 pm

If everyone wore masks without finding all kinds of ‘seforas’ to not wear them, our schools WILL STAY OPEN!
It’s simple! If you don’t care, well there’s nothing to say to you…but if you care, then wear a mask!!

Anonymous
Reply to  So EASILY preventable!!
November 18, 2020 7:32 pm

Just like the lockdowns were to slow the spread and then would lift after the first two weeks? But somehow morphed to months AFTER the cases went down already?
You believe an assumption that is far from true. The sorry truth is that the schools are being shut down for political reasons unrelated to the virus.

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Enough
Reply to  So EASILY preventable!!
November 18, 2020 7:52 pm

Is it safe breathing in the air your body expels for hours at a time?

Kop Doktar
Reply to  Enough
November 19, 2020 12:28 am

“Q.Is it safe breathing in the air your body expels for hours at a time?” A. Surgeons and surgery room nurses wear masks every day for hours at a time. They aren’t getting sick from it. Also many construction workers wear masks all day long to protect their lungs from dust. They aren’t getting sick. Also in many Asian countries, people wear masks all day long due to the poor air quality. Their health is not suffering from it. But you are worried maybe it isn’t safe to wear a mask?! One thing is sure, it isn’t safe NOT to… Read more »

Anonymous
Reply to  Kop Doktar
November 19, 2020 10:45 am

You know nothing about construction workers and their masks apparently. My husband works in construction and no they would never wear a cloth or surgical mask to keep out dust or the paint they spray because it doesn’t. And the dust/paint are visible to the eye. (I can just imagine how effective it is against a microscopic virus, wether to keep it in or out.) And lots of studies do warn them about which kind of masks are approved for different tasks and length of times and level of exertion. Please do some proper research before you spout off your… Read more »

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Anonymous
Reply to  Enough
November 19, 2020 11:13 am

No it’s harmful according to all pre-covid studies. Ask a surgeon. We are witnessing delusional psychosis on a massive scale thanks to politicians and the media. Objective medical opinion is being shut down and censored. It’s nuts.

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OK, Chochom, don't wear a mask.
Reply to  Unreal
November 18, 2020 8:02 pm

And then when the mayor says to close the schools, you’ll be the loudest voice screaming anti-semitism! You’ll be the one spearheading the whole ‘we’re being targeted’ thing. You’ll be the first one to incite a community to violent anti-authority speech. You’ll be the first one to make sure that everyone feels that it’s evil government going after the Jews.
And I bet you have no kids in school.

Anonymous
Reply to  OK, Chochom, don't wear a mask.
November 18, 2020 10:47 pm

That’s right. It’s the evil government going after the Jews. We as free people do not consent to shutting down our schools, businesses or shuls no matter what. With or without rising covid cases. We do not consent to forced mask wearing either. We have that right. We don’t live in Cuba. Whoever is scared of covid can choose to wear a mask or stay home or not send their kids to school. I for one am done with this nonsense. I’d rather catch covid. Not sure why I still never got it even though I’ve been exposed multiple times… Read more »

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Covid religious cult
Reply to  OK, Chochom, don't wear a mask.
November 19, 2020 8:48 pm

It’s good thing that De Balsio was able to establish that the Covid virus does not target BLM and Antifa rioters. Apparently, Marxist ideology makes one immune from this virus. And the more you riot and the more buildings and cars you burn down, the greater the immunity. However, in contrast to BLM rioters, it has also been “scientifically” proven that Jews are more likely to spread the virus. That’s why it’s important to shut down their schools and communties while giving BLM and Antifa a blank cheque to riot, engage in violence and arson and wreak havoc. There is… Read more »

Anonymous
November 18, 2020 7:12 pm

I guess they need the population to get restless cooped up at home so that they will be ready to riot when Trump is elected president for the next 4 years.
To all those claiming that schools wouldn’t be shut if everyone wore a mask, I have news for you. While the percentages are going up (ratio of positive to total tests), the actual raw number of POSITIVE CASES are way down from two weeks ago. So no this has nothing to do with masks or a virus surge.

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Kop Doktar
Reply to  Anonymous
November 19, 2020 12:32 am

“While the percentages are going up (ratio of positive to total tests), the actual raw number of POSITIVE CASES are way down from two weeks ago. So no this has nothing to do with masks or a virus surge.”

That’s why the hospitals are starting to fill up more, and more people are in ICU, and in Europe the health care system is crashing, because “the actual number of POSITIVE CASES are way down”! The surge of patients in hospitals are “negative cases”…I guess?!  

No one gets hospitalized for anything else?
Reply to  Kop Doktar
November 19, 2020 10:12 am

Really? Maybe the hospitals are starting to fill up more with people who have other problems – one of them being breathing in their own carbon dioxide-laden air. Or because the lockdowns are affecting their physical and mental health in other ways. Or just because it’s wintertime, and more people tend to get sick at that time. Ever consider any of that?

Anonymous
Reply to  Kop Doktar
November 19, 2020 10:56 am

Please explain why are they still banning immediate use of hydroxychloriquine with zinc based off a fraudulent study that has been retracted if they care so much about the hospital capacity and peoples lives? And now a peer reviewed study has been published that shows overwhelming effectiveness in early outpatient use but all we hear is crickets?!

Anonymous
Reply to  Kop Doktar
November 19, 2020 10:57 am

Which hospitals and where?

Anonymous
Reply to  Kop Doktar
November 19, 2020 11:27 am

As of 11/12/20
By zipcode of proud mask flaunters:

11213- 40 of the tests were reported as positive

11225- 29 of the tests were reported as positive

11203- 22 of the tests were reported as positive

And from 10/31/20 by zip…
11213- 111 of the tests were reported as positive

11225- 70 of the tests were reported as positive

11203- 99 of the tests were reported as positive

Which way is up or down?

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Chosid
Reply to  Anonymous
November 19, 2020 3:17 pm

I thought everyone already had it and the rest have herd immunity?! How can there be so many positives?? It’s fake!

lies
Reply to  Chosid
November 20, 2020 6:42 am

What are you saying? Those who had corona months ago think that they are the only ones who exist. at least 45 percent of CH has not had it.

Europe
Reply to  Kop Doktar
November 20, 2020 8:52 am

European system is socialized medicine and more likely to crash than a system based on the free market

Comment from Los Angeles
November 19, 2020 10:38 am

People seem to espouse the need for us all to have “mesirus nefesh” to keep our schools open even when locations are required by ordinances to close. Loopholes are being abused in order to send our children during this pandemic, even while putting our families and community at continued risk due to increased chances of exposure, all for the sake of a proper chassidishe chinuch. Yet we can’t have a modicum of mesirus nefesh to wear a mask properly which would mitigate much of that risk to others who are at higher risk?!? This is not just about one single… Read more »

Anonymous
Reply to  Comment from Los Angeles
November 19, 2020 12:52 pm

This part is false “…wear a mask properly which would mitigate much of that risk to others…” hence the non-compliance, but otherwise everyone agrees with the rest of your post on having mesiras nefesh for others. Now if they would only offer hydroxychloriquine over the counter like they do in other countries, we might actually have an effective way to protect high risk people. But what to do if the self-serving politicians are in charge?

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Learn Torah
November 20, 2020 8:43 am

Please see shulchanaruchharav com for a chabad halachic analysis on this issue

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