Crown Heights, שכונת המלך, is the neighborhood the Rebbe referred to as כאן צוה השם את הברכה. It is a hub of the most powerful ruchniusdike opportunities. One can gain unlimited inspiration and connection there – when visited responsibly.
I feel extremely fortunate that I spent almost all Tishreis of my life in 770, and I would encourage others to make it a priority for themselves and their families too.
However, there are serious, possibly irreversible physical and spiritual safety concerns that parents must be aware of. I will refrain from giving elaborate examples in this public notice, but urge you to ask around and research this matter thoroughly.
I’ll just mention one too common example of something parents might not know to consider:
A good innocent bochur is invited to a Farbrengen. He arrives and it’s all good. Then the host/bochur’s teenage sister or female cousins casually sit on the couch in the room next to the Sukkah/Farbrengen. With (possibly) no ill intentions, everyone becomes way too comfortable. At that Farbrengen, or randomly on the street, a friend’s friend shares a harmful substance with the others. In both cases, before he realizes what’s happening, the social pressure makes it too difficult for the bochur to politely leave the scene.
Sending bochurim of any age without solid adult supervision and guidance is strongly unadvised.
Relying on an older sibling or cousin is not practical; they mingle with different groups of friends and can not provide responsible supervision. “I’m with a Shliach” is not a guarantee or necessarily comforting.
If you are unable to provide constant and reliable on-sight supervision, it is probably not safe to send your son.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Wishing you and yours a גמר חתימה טובה.
Rabbi Mordechai Schurder
Menahel of Klurman Mesivta in Miami
Just because some bochurim go for the wrong reasons doesn’t mean that everyone else does.
but sometimes the “wrong reasons” find them
CH is defintiely a place where someone needs to come for the right intentions AND be vigilant once they are here as in who they are hanging around with and what environment they will be going into and what will be happening there
don’t ever drink alcohol
don’t ever use substances
You’re saying we should completely abolish saying Lechaim, something that the Rebbeim instituted? You’re insane!!
……sounds like an addict
You can say l’chaim on water…
purpose of lchaim at fabrengen is to open you up. be more open
(I Beleive)
Im actually probably more on your team in approach to lchaim then they original comment, but the Rebbe did not “institute” saying LCHAIM.
The Rebbe perpetuated the age old minhag chassidim.
And in fact DECREED no more than 4 ounces for those under 40.
it was no more than 4 lechaims equaling no more than 86ml (2.9 ounces)
drinking mashke by a farbrengen isnt called drinking alchohol its called saying leacaim.
How do you propose we make kiddush!
Your idea is too extreme. Alcohol has a place inn yiddishkeit.
use grape juice instead
in 5738 the rebbe said we make kiddush on wine
alcohol is poison
Very true
I believe this is the reason the Vaad Shmiras HaTznius was founded. Follow the Vaad Shmiras Hatznius channel on WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029Va9eHfQLY6d1iNl7rT2u
Really great channel everyone should join
Channels is not a safe place why are you on channels,
In fact people should be getting rid of WhatsApp
Yes channels has adult content
Whatsapp does not allow it, yet theres no way for them to stop it
Unfortunately kids will be bumping into the stuff now
Signals is almost identical to WhatsApp, the looks are a little different but feature wise very similar
maybe everyone should focus a lot of their energy on ending the shidduch crisis. If you’re ready to start dating at 18, why not?
I agree %100. The crisis is a real thing, and even if not for the crisis, by beginning to date at 18 you can be mekayem a hora’ah of chazal “Ben shomeh esrie l’chupah”. Therefor it is a very proper thing for bochrim to begin dating at 18. This was something that I’ve always noticed that the poilishers have figured out better than Chabad.
About time a menahel come out and tell the clueless parents of what actually happens on the streets late at night.
moshiach NOW
Maybe if you actually listen to your children, treated them with respect, gave them the opportunity to pursue healthy outlets, and invested into education things would be better. This article is excatly the problem with chabad and its outlook on its teenagers. We dont judge people who come into our chabad houses but in our own homes you treat your own children like outsiders.
where did you get that idea? it has to do with keeping our youth (and adults btw) away from things that can drag them in a direction that is not healthy or appropriate and to help guide them to do the right thing
Parents should create an atmosphere at home that is conducive for their kids to be open.
Thank you so much, rabbi. I am so happy that someone finally decided to address the terrible problem that has been going on in our community!
in the 80s and 90s, would your advice to everyone had been to not send bochurim to crown heights because at Simchas Bais Hashoeva, girls and boys mixed and substances were present?
I lived on Crown street for over 30 years from mid 1980’s. And things even then were BAD! Drugs, alcohol, free mixing, vomiting in the street, noise, complete disregard for any decency, I could go on. Of course not all bochurim and girls behaved like this but a significant number did. We all knew these visitors weren’t coming for the “spiritual” experience – they came to hit Macy’s, B&H and other stores. Every day I’d see teens sleeping it off in gardens, hanging out in public and private succahs, smoking, and staggering around drunk or hungover. And those were the… Read more »
May Hashem help all of us young and old do the right thing
Thank You for bringing this up! I want to point out something else. The amount of drugs being passed around. Halevai every one would sit in 770 all day. but the reality is that from the hundred of people that come to spend Tishrei with the Rebbe there is unfortunately some people that come for other reasons. ESPECIALLY SIMCHAS TORAH! Sadly this stuff is legal now. Parents, I beg you do not send your teens unsupervised. Residents of the Shechuna, If you see something SAY SOMETHING! Yes, Kindly go over to the underaged person and tell them to stop etc.… Read more »
Last Purim – I went to Shuk Machane Yehuda to see if all the hype about what goes on between Sem girls and Lub bochurim was true or exaggerated. For context, I am a married woman. I was horrified to see what was going on. Not only was it not exaggerated – it was under-reported! Our (Chabad/Crown Heights) girls and boys were mingling. OK. Nothing physically dangerous with that. (Yes, I know the obvious ruchnius and other problems that can arise) One may say…Family friends, they know siblings, innocent Purim fun, etc. Unfortunately, it wasn’t innocent. I won’t name the… Read more »
Israel is a whole nother story
this may be true what you saw but unfortunately this happens in other kehillos as well
how do you know where each girl or boy is from
and there are other places unfortunately to do this besides teh shuk
also-at the same time there are BH many, many boys and girls doing the right thing and it is important to mention that as well
it actually better that they go somewhere else to do it
this is because the relationship is less likely to continue and they show yiras tatty and mummy
Lol believe me there are PLENTY of BY girls doing all kinds of things. People are people. In every group there are some and doesn’t necessarily mean anything about the whole.
As a By graduate myself – They make sure to do it quietly, otherwise those people are fully “off the derech” in which case you really wouldn’t notice.
In every community there are those who fall to temptation. עניי עירך קודמים – ie, let’s worry about our own. The situation is not ok, and our sems/yeshivas could do better.
And this is why I sent my very Chabad Lubavitch daughter to a non-chabad seminary. After visiting Israel and seeing the atmosphere mentioned above, I know I made the right call.
on this matter
to supervise a teen unless they are at home sitting near you
You are scaring people away. Although you may be correct, you as well as the many other people who share this sentiment are painting a false picture. Of course there is bad, as there in everything (zeh leumas zeh oso elokim), but it is outweighed by the good. If the bochur is going with the right intentions then he will have a very easy time only being in a kosher atmosphere. There is so much that is only beneficial, and you can spend a whole tishrei engrossed in good, gaining immensly. These articles spin a dark web in the mind… Read more »
Not only are these legal drugs dangerous especially for kids who’s minds are still developing , they can be laced with lethal drugs!!!! It’s an epidemic. Please children amd teens reading this, don’t touch any street drugs. Ever.
Exactly!!!
What about the l’chaims at the fabrengens?
Those were the substances he was referring to.
Every person in a position of authority should take upon themself at this moment to eliminate or at least limit the amount of alcohol being consumed in our community. Succos is a great time to start. You have an achrayus to protect our youth
I live in Crown Heights and hosted guest. I can attest to the truth of Rabbi Schurder’s comments and observations. There’s lots of going on outside, in alleys, in some unsupervised homes etc.
I’ve advised some parents not to send their teenage kids without adults supervision, even through their kids are “good chassidishe” kids.
ודי למבין
I have been saying this for years. What tishrei in crown heights has become is very disturbing and concerning. The number of young people who are thrust into unwholesome situations, unwilling or willingly, is astounding. The mental and physical health of your loved ones should be of paramount importance, and if you choose to send your children, both you and they should understand the possible pitfalls.
although there are many things that can happen in tishrei that is problematic, and it can have a bad affect on bochrim, there are many upsides of tishrei in crown heights. as a participant of many late night farbrengens in ch, i have been greatly affected positively. consider that
I don’t agree with this, supervision does not end up well, if a kid is going to be smoking weed or meeting girls they will do it either way, supervision will just cause resentment and a feeling that the parents don’t trust them which makes them want to do these things more, if a parent speaks it over maturely with a kid generally the kid will feel trusted and not be inclined to do these things.
If only we could speak to our children and they’d act like they live in a bubble
A parent’s responsibility and zchus is taking care of and educating their children according to their values and beliefs. Once children start doing things independently and making decisions of their own it is healthy and responsible of a parent to let go of restrictions they had on their child. If a parent keeps these restrictions once it is not appropriate for that child anymore, it can be harmful and cause the child to do harmful things to themselves. Every kid wants to explore and really there’s nothing to do to stop teenagers from doing what they want to do. What… Read more »
There’s much more problematic things that the author of this article refrained from going into (besides what he went into, not that what he specified isn’t important either). Specifically on Simchas Beis nights.
I beg you to keep your eyes and ears open if YOU SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING. Last year on Simchas Beis Hashuava at 3 am when bachurim are dancing with their heart and soul there was something else going on RIGHT On the same street. I called Shomrim and spoke to the volunteer and explained that yes, this is out of their field but something has to be done. The volunteer put up a flashlight deep into the alley and followed what was going on. Please please let’s join together to protect out children. They deserve better.
We need to know what we are looking out for!!!
Rabbi Schurder, With all due respect, why are you targeting going to Crown Heights for Tishrei??? The examples you gave of girls on the couch mingling and substance social pressure can happen in Miami and all of the big anash cities all over the world when elter bochorim have bein hazmonim and attend farbrengens and mingle with the friends. Parents aren’t glued to their children 24/7 there either. These issues have nothing to do with Crown Heights per se. Bochorim and need to be encouraged to travel to the Rebbe and visit 770 and the Ohel every Tishrei to recharge… Read more »
It’s clear you don’t understand who this letter was targeted to
Legendary
You are correct that said situations can happen anywhere – especially the couch part 🙂
The problem with CH Tishrei for an innocent young chassidishe bochur even with the programs is often the timing.
True situation – young bochur went to his yeshiva’s farbreingen in BR Lefferts. Was staying Pres/Kingston. Mashpia kept saying farb will soon be over. At 2:00 AM(!) host went to find bochur (he was beyond exhausted, but rightfully afraid to walk alone). This and situations like it are NOT ok – despite the bochur being supervised by the mashpia!!! Kids also need sleep.
please re-read article
Parents in Miami know what happens in Miami.
The problem here is that parents are under the impression that crown heights is a safe and chassidish place and have no worries about sending their kids.
This article is to help shed light on the realities of what goes on here.
yes thank you for bringing this to attention
a lot if times these farbis are just drinking and its so dangerous for these bochrim i dont see so much the overall about the girls so much bet definitely about farbis
I agree with you 100%. I appreciate your writting to be in a most tzanies’diker way. But we are all very aware of what goes on. As you said, always starting with good intentions. Farbreng say Lechaim once twice etc. and who knows.
There has been a major issue by Simchas Bais Hashoayva here
In CH.
No matter what the conditions are, watching someone 24/7 for a week 2weeks etc is almost impractical better yet impossible !!
Please be cautious. A Gut Yom Tov
I do not believe children, both girls or boys under the ago of 18 years of age should travel to Crown Heights for Tishrei without the appropriate arrangements for suitable accommodation and program oversight being made by their parents prior to their child departing from home. Too many youth roam the streets without any appropriate supervision.
Hey Pinchas, I truly appreciate ur input on the ch tishrei disaster that has an ensued over the past 5 years. When Lubavitch girls decided to make Lubavitch a reform synanogue
Kinda yes but kinda wrong too
We’re teenagers we do bad things sometimes but then we get over it but that’s of course that’s e don’t take it too far and do actuall bad things but a little bit of being on our own and figuring things out isn’t do bad but as I said befor of course I ky if we don’t go to far and do really dangerous and inappropriate things
Is this instead of the simchas bais oped I look forward to every year!?
1. Tracht gut. Why expect tragedy? Do you make this calculation before sending your child on a road trip (car accident c”v)? 2. The Rebbe takes responsibility. They are HIS guests! 3. Is our chinuch so vulnerable that are children cannot deal with real life situations? Don’t we trust them to go on mivtzoyim? Do you know what “could” happen on mivtzoyim? (Much worse!) 4. Do you think local simchas bais hashievas and farbrengens are safer in your home town??? Like, is this only a concern in Crown Heights? Couldn’t it happen in your backyard? Local parents aren’t always supervising… Read more »
Tracht Gut,,,, more importantly be aware be practical be honest what really goes on.
…… put yourself in a highly dangerous place a mokom sakana, and say “tracht gut”. Not very responsible, is it ?
Tracht gut. You think it only applies to safe situations when there is little to no risk?!
And the ones who go to CH with the wrong intentions- are they also the Rebbe’s guests?
When your children misbehave, they are still your children. Yidden who act inappropriatately are still Hashem’s children. Chassidim that misbehave are still chassidim.
The Rebbe’s guests are those who sincerely come for the Rebbe. Look in 770, girls sit and learn the entire day. So do boys downstairs. Warms your heart! But there is an entire different group of people who come for the “happening”. You’ll find them at Miron on Lag Baomer. Or at Uman on Rosh Hashanah although not being Breslov. Those are in danger. And they also bring the danger with them. They came to meet people and “have fun”. Those are not the Rebbe’s guests because they didn’t come to or for the Rebbe. And so, the Rebbe’s s… Read more »
You think that only learners qualify to be the Rebbe’s Guests?! We’re only learners invited to be Oleh Regel to the Bais Hamikdosh?! I assure you, many non-learners came to be Oleh Regel – as required! Even if they came for “fun” they were visiting the Bais Hamikdosh and being guests of HKBH!!! Yes, the bais din made takonos to prevent intermingling during simchas bais hashoeva at the Bais Hamikdosh to prevent the fun seekers from having fun, but they were welcome to be there!
You can’t compare the supervision when your child sleeps at home as when he is another state and you don’t know where he is at any given time
What goes on by simchas beis hashoeiva in crown heights is becoming embarrassing
It’s a disgrace. And let’s remember it’s not just the Israelis & Frenchies who are sucked in. CH teens get corrupted as well, and a lot of the causes come from other neighborhoods, including the entire Tri-state area. They bring in drugs, booze and sleaze. Police are afraid to arrest anyone because local “officials” and do-gooders get them out. Instead of holding people accountable they are given a pass.
Thank you Rabbi Schurder for the email, all that you do and not hiding from the struggles our teens face.
It’s people like that who restrain hordes of bochurim longing to get near Schunas Hamelech from being able to. Worried parents will always assume the worst. Speaking from experience, my friends and I have a hard time convincing our parents to let us go to Crown Heights for Tishrei and through (broken telephone) ‘stories’ they remain adamant that they don’t want us to go without full program of supervision. Rather, the hosts of Crown Heights should remain active in making it a healthy Ruchniusdike environment.
Parents are responsible for their own children. When someone hosts, while it would be nice to think that they can “babysit” their teenage guests, they usually have their own families and Yom Tov to prepare. Supervising teenage guests is not always possible, even if hosts wanted to. (Which often they don’t, understandably.)
the point the author was trying to make was more that they should refrain from keeping substances such as alcohol to a limit, and ensuring the ‘female cousins’ don’t hang around by the farbrengens. it’s not babysitting it’s common decency
Why are you holding back bochrim from going to the rebbe for tishrei? , granted that there are bad things but the positve affect that it can have in hiskashrus and avodas Hashem is tremendous!
Just another aspect of how Crown Heights has deteriorated from being the Crown jewel of Lubavitch, to being a place where teenagers can’t be left unsupervised…
Thank you Rabbi Schurder for being the voice of reason in a confusing world
Bochurim need to make choices for themselves
I believe mothers of these kids are not aware of danger, or situations that they can be part of.
Till age 18 they can’t be here alone – period.
After 18 it’s worse
You can’t control you kids life. Yeah bad stuff happens. But to control your kids is not the solution, cause once they have freedom they will do everything that they where never allowed to do.
Rabbi Mordechai Schurder is 100% right, let’s call a spade a spade and face reality, sending your young teenagchildren without proper arrangements is simply irresponsible! Thank you
What is the alternative for bochurim? If there was a supervised program (his yeshiva doesn’t offer one) I would have gladly signed him up (and even paid for it). He wanted very much to have Tishrei with the Rebbe and not to be home.
Would it have been a better chinuch decision to force a teen to stay home against his will?
It’s so nice to be here but if you are young and naive it is very dangerous, if few years ago all was discreet now it’s open- 11pm the odor of all substances is so obvious, girls & boys., they sell and use it openly….
Have your child home, if your a CH-er leave for yomtov or sit-down and talk with your kids about how to go through with the situation. If he’s older you can have a child who can go on shlichus help shluchim have a great Chassidishe time with friends even. At the end of the day though the situation tishrei in ch is very rough and sad and something has to be worked out by yeshivos etc but at the moment when there is none it’s up to you as a parent to make the right decision and choice to keep… Read more »
I think it’s important for people to be aware of what really goes on in ch. it’s unacceptable and is reaching a point where it’s breaching! As a ch resident, I can’t attend the prayers at 770, I can’t literally can’t walk down the streets, and can’t go to restaurants because it is over taken by some teenagers that think ch is the place to have fun and to hang out. It’s terrible to see what ch has turned into. It’s a real embarrassment to the schunah. The amount of people who come to ch without having a place to… Read more »
I totally agree yet not at the same time. Crown heights has turned terrible, but not because of tishrei ch”v, for some reason the place with the most kedusha is a place which has the lowest klipahs. Crown heights has turned into something terrible because of crown heights. Without listening to rabbonim allowing kids to mingle at night, go to whatever lchaims and weddings their heart desires, wear whatever they feel like, and come to shul whenever. This education or lack thereof is what destroys crown heights not tishrei. So start spacing in and look around on a random Tuesday… Read more »
Thank you rabbi this is very true
Send your kids with organized groups.
Like the boys and girls (mainly from Israel) do, so then they will have a seder to follow.
No comments here will be with highly accurate response, since every kid and family parents etc, are different.
In the end of the day, it’s parents decision regarding their kids.
The writer here is just bringing awareness.
Thank you for writing this fantastic article, it really gives over the real picture (without delving too deeply) in perfect words. If a Bochur doesn’t go supervised he shouldn’t go at all. Furthermore this normalization of girls hanging around in the streets is absolutely horrible. There should be two sections of dancing 15 streets away from each other, the fact that it’s simchas beis does not make the laws of tznius and pritzus invalid. This has got to stop. Thank you Rabbi Schurder for openly speaking out against this, it has gone too long unspoken about. Hopefully we will all… Read more »
there needs to be something done about this. where I’m from in Australia (furthest Chabad community from Beis Rabenu 770) many bochurim are jumping out of their shoes begging parents to let them go, but because of stories like these they’re never allowed and have to stay another year separated from their home in golus.
it’s a delicate situation
there are many who leave so inspired
supervision and frequent checking in is very important and so is the age and mindset
I’m 18 now but I live in Crown Heights and haven’t ever had this happen to me when I was younger. Granted there might have been girls at random places that I happened to be at but I was never involved with that and definitely not at farbrengens. Perhaps we should actually teach our (hypothetically for me) children how to interact when their environment isn’t the best instead of trying to shelter them because you can’t shelter them forever.
When you live here you have social pressure your family, friends, yeshivah – all who can see you doing some troubles can report you so potentially you are stuck to good. But when you are 14-16 and alone here, and stick with a nice group but by the end this group doing bad stuff you can’t go away without peer pressure and can find yourself in difficult situation. And if you grew up here you do know our own troubles and off dereh because of drugs. I spot the young boy completely not feeling well after farbrengen, couldn’t walk, couldn’t… Read more »
As CH mother I can say openly that Kedusha attracts klipah, educate your children about drugs, alcohol, street safety in a big city. They are young, vulnerable, and naive and unfortunately we have here goyim and yiden who can abuse your children and we are not always there to protect them.
Ps. Schools can educate as well and be more open to discuss how not to fell into that situation and how to seek help!
Every parent is responsible for their children, whether they are in Miami, L.A., Israel or Crown Heights. The vast majority of guests don’t end up doing drugs, passing out, or mingling with girls. There is a small (but visible) minority which does it, and they do it wherever they are. Parents know their children. They know which of their children is prone to this kind of problems, and which isn’t. If a parent sends his child with a structured plan of what will be done, and regular checking-in, the Tishrei with the Rebbe experience is something that will inspire and… Read more »
Please this is not good education. Marijuana these days can be laced with fentanyl which is deadly!it’s an epidemic…
All is true, but an article won’t change what’s happening. Kids will be kids, alcohol will be served, drugs will be available, and girls will be wherever they want to be especially in their own homes. It’s not just at Simchas beis it’s all year round anywhere its just more visible during these few days. And no the answer is not lock your kids up at home bc that could be a lot worse especially if their friends make it to ch. Rather be open with your child and yes let him make the decision bc it will catch up… Read more »
Ask any post Israel seminary girl. If drinking, drugging and boys is your thing, you don’t want to miss going to Israel for seminary. You have much more time there for things to develop and you can go way further down the rabbit hole if you choose. You also don’t run as big a risk of one of your parents friends calling home as you do in the shchuna. If you really want a place that’s unsupervised, choose Israel.
Bh I am now happily married to my wife who I met during simchas beis hashuevah
I am not saying it’s good but lets just clarify everything is hashcacha pratis
Moshaich now
#dontspotthemfromcomingtotheschuna #off
Hashgachah Pratis indeed
I think someone commented the same thing by last years simchas beis hashoevah op-ed
Maybe this is the solution to the shidduch crisis 😅JK
I honestly believe that the Rebbes response would be that if such tragedies are happening , the whole Tishrei experience must be reformed, e.g. maybe girls or Bochorim should not come for an entire month rather only a week or atwo and there should be patrols on the streets done by mature adults….
The was happening in the 80’s and 90’s as well, and I’m sure the Rebbe was aware.
You can’t ever say, “The Rebbe would say this or The Rebbe would say that!”
Things have to change yet to say it in the Rebbes name!? Blasphomous!
A warning to young women, do not walk alone especially at night. Do not trust any man even if he looks like a religious Jew. Keep an eye on the cup you are drinking from in case gd forbid a male tries to drug you when you’re not looking. CH is not safe this time of year for our girls and women and they need to be made more aware of the danger they’re in.
Please tell your children . People live here . So here goes. American & Israeli visitors: 1. Don’t litter . 2 don’t leave your food one someone else’s property 3. People are sleeping at night please don’t scream and yell on the streets I find it very disturbing how in 770 the girls took over . Eating leaving messes . Stepping on benches . Also not respecting the locals who have seats . For Yom Kippur . Literally sitting on people’s heads . Parents where are you ? Also stop plastering rebbe posters everywhere .on street lights . And 10… Read more »
I think it would be nice if some of the health care professionals and Hatzola members weighed in, with their experience in dealing with drunken and overdosed teens. Unfortunately, they get to see the real consequences of unsupervised teens.
klal yisroel b’yachad ❤
Please do not blame young women for the downfall of young (or old) men. Let men take responsibility for their actions/urges and let’s not equate innocent women with harmful addictive drugs. They are NOT the same and it’s disingenuous to lump them together.
And let us not forget that many a young man has taken advantage and/or attacked young women at Simchas Beis after being given alcohol or drugs (on purpose or inadvertently) – Are the young women at fault for that too?
That even the young women may be into the drugs… don’t assume that only guys like to party hard
Aside for the building of 770, can someone please explain why anyone should go to CH for Yom tov?
I fail to understand this notion of “going to the Rebbe” to ch post 3 tammuz.
Better, find a chavrusah and go help a shliach for Yom tov. At least that way you’re actually doing something positive and doing the Rebbe’s shlichus.
As someone who was in CH for tishrei from afar pre 3 tammuz, there was already hefkerus if you wanted it. But at least you had the farbrengens, sichos and davening of the Rebbe to attend.
not to sound harsh, by saying you dont understand. but coming to be by the Rebbe is a yiddishe chassidishe experience which people take kochos for the whole year. daveing in the Rebbe’s shul in unbelievable experience and dancing with chayis helps elevate themselves and crown heights
should the yidden not have gone oleh regel. because we fast bahab for all the footsies under the table that went on, they even had to add a esras nahim in the beis hamikdash. for sure there need protection, but to always stop and close some out will never fix the problem
Oleh regel is a mitzvah in the Torah, going to ch is not, especially post 3 tammuz.
it abosulutley is a very important thing to visit the rebbe during tishrie. Its the way to be oleh regel in galus
Great read.
Recommend it.
A Sanctuary In Microcosm – A Lighthouse in the Diaspora
Sichos in English
https://www.sie.org › … › A Sanctuary In Microcosm
everyone knows the way hashem set up the world is so that in order there be bechirah chafshis wherever there is alot of kedusha like by the rebbe where there is the most kedusha in the world there will also be a lot of klipah to combat it so we have bechirah chafshis. if you want to take away that unbelieavable expiriance of being by the rebbe for tishrie/succcos do that but just know what your taking away from them.
It is a big problem but if someone is gonna do drugs and hang with girls they are gonna do it either way.it is not fair to bucherim going for the right reasons that they shouldn’t go.To be. 100 percent honest if you think your son will hang out with girls don’t send him.Most people can tell if their son is a more chilled buchor who might have a problem.Also drugs and alcohol are available everywhere now if someone is gonna do it he’ll in ch or where he lives.CH isn’t the problem it is the people who go.Ask your… Read more »
100% agree, its the people who go, its not CH
Thanks for posting. This article was very much needed!
If the girls were dressed modestly these kind of things will never happen.
Modestly dressed girls are also attractive thank u very much
It’s McDonalds fault for existing?
When your kid goes OTD, will it be because:
A. You let him/her go to CH for tishrei.
B. You did not let her/him go to CH fir tishrei.
C. You did not show him/her how much you love her/him and that you are his/her best friend.
THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS.
Everything else is pointing blame on everyone else.
Tell your child that s/he is your BFF and hug her/him till it hurts, and later there won’t be any hurt. Guaranteed.
And to Chochom- you nailed it.
Your kid needs more than hugs and kisses.
He needs directions.
When your kid goes otd, we’ll understand, but I don’t get why you assume everyone else’s kids will also
A child that feels loved will NEVER act out to hurt his living parents. If you feel guilty, start remedial action today.
Thank you Rabbi for warning naive parents. If they’re not naive, they wouldn’t let kids travel unsupervised. It’s a recipe for no good, cv’s.
Boruch Hashem, to hear a man and a Rabbi give this direction is the brocha of the year. I have been a lone voice stating this as long as I can remember. Please, Hashem, protect our babies, all their lives.
Most bochrim want to go to the rebbe for tishrei l, why should they be harassed by their parents about potentially hanging out with girls. Instead parents shouldn’t be sending their girls to ch for these times, and the crown heights families should make sure that their daughters aren’t around if they are hosting a farbrengen
Maybe if everyone stayed respectful and the girls and boys were each where they were supposed to be no one would have to be “limited”.
*The Proper Care* Handwritten note from the Rebbe to Reb Shmuel (“Mulleh”) Azimov about arranging for a group from France to come to the Rebbe for Tishrei: באם 1) יכול לסדר (הכותב) שכאן יתעסק מי עמהם במשך שהותם כאן. 2) מבטיחים (הרוצים לנסוע) שעי”ז יתוסף אצלם בעניני תומ”צ (לפי השערתם), 3) לא יכנסו עי”ז לחוב גדול כו’ – תהא הנסיעה בשטומו”צ. If [the following conditions can be met]: 1) You (the writer of this letter) can arrange for someone to take care of them during their stay here. 2) They (whoever wishes to travel here) promise that (in their… Read more »
Excellent points!! Seems many guests from Israel spend a large part of their time collecting money to cover their trip (or selling items to profit enough to cover their debt).
This is exactly against what the Rebbe wanted!
Didn’t get a chance to read through the article yet, but just by reading the headline and a few comments, i feel the need to comment that it seems there’s some alcoholics on here. Another thing, as I’m aware,too many teenagers/bochurim, basically children had to be resuscitated by hatazala or had their stomaches pumped in the hospital is enough to know there’s a problem!
*The Proper Care* Handwritten note from the Rebbe to Reb Shmuel (“Mulleh”) Azimov about arranging for a group from France to come to the Rebbe for Tishrei: באם 1) יכול לסדר (הכותב) שכאן יתעסק מי עמהם במשך שהותם כאן. 2) מבטיחים (הרוצים לנסוע) שעי”ז יתוסף אצלם בעניני תומ”צ (לפי השערתם), 3) לא יכנסו עי”ז לחוב גדול כו’ – תהא הנסיעה בשטומו”צ. If [the following conditions can be met]: 1) You (the writer of this letter) can arrange for someone to take care of them during their stay here. 2) They (whoever wishes to travel here) promise that (in their… Read more »
Too many kids unsupervised climb to the top of the roof of houses and buildings that are 3 or 4 flights up. Very tall buildings. It’s not fenced and it’s so so dangerous. When you send your teens to the dancing, watch that they don’t go on the roof.
Reading all these comments and the actual article itself, sounds really convincing and terrible but in truth this is not the reality. The ideas and stories were all said by people who do not really know what’s happening but just hear the few extremely sad stories and think this is everyone. But this is not the case as a Mechanich and someone who is around CH all the time I know for a fact that for the vast majority of Bachurim this is not the case and almost all of them are good chassidishe bachurim…!!! There is no reason to… Read more »
We really need more paramedics & EMT’s in the community perhaps having female volunteers would help the young women feel safe to seek help & would also deter young vagrants from trying anything willy nilly