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A bochur who is learning in the Kvutzah group in New York for this year has tested positive for COVID 19, leading to all the bochurim being required to quarantine in their dorms. Full Story

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Not 2 Weeks
September 9, 2020 4:20 pm

They did not spend 2 weeks in Connecticut. They spent about 9 days there. They landed Tuesday morning and they were out Thursday / Friday.

This is scary stuff
Reply to  Not 2 Weeks
September 9, 2020 4:43 pm

The two week thing wouldn’t work even they actually stayed for 2 weeks. That’s because if there was covid there, it’s entirely possible that one of the ppl there got covid on day 14.

What’s more frightening is the fact that they will not quarantine. I’m walking out of 770 right now and all of the new Israelis are sitting there.

Crown heights, brace yourselves for wave 2

why are they here
Reply to  Not 2 Weeks
September 9, 2020 7:09 pm

so people can pat themselves on the back and say that they are kind. as it says in gemara when you are kind to those who dont deserve it you end up being cruel to those who you should be kind to. and that is our own community. those who decided that they should come are responsible for the coming devastation in our community. shame

Resident
September 9, 2020 4:33 pm

They most likely got the virus in 770 . Forgive me , but what cleaning protocols are being followed in the shul

Results came back today
Reply to  Resident
September 9, 2020 10:15 pm

For some reason the Covid tests were administered on their final day in Connecticut (last Thursday). The results were returned today and one tested positive. While it is very possible that by now more have due to the congestion in 770, the only one that officially was tested positive must have had it before.

Important point
Reply to  Results came back today
September 10, 2020 7:11 am

If he tested positive while not having symptoms, and he was the only one to test positive from the entire group- that shows that whatever he had wasn’t contagious. Look at the recent studies and stop panicking, blaming and shaming.

Quarantine
September 9, 2020 4:40 pm

Just my opinion all 200 students must wear masks in 770 I know it sounds ridiculous and its annoying but if we want this virus to go away masks must be worn in 770 under the government law

Everyone in 770 should wear masks
Reply to  Quarantine
September 9, 2020 6:31 pm

Everyone in 770 should be wearing masks to protect themselves and others

Everyone
Reply to  Everyone in 770 should wear masks
September 9, 2020 7:45 pm

Everyone in crown heights. Why am I the only one wearing a mask down Kingston Ave?

Sick
Reply to  Everyone
September 10, 2020 5:45 am

And me wearing a mask as well…and being mask shamed

What about everyone else who has davened in 770
September 9, 2020 4:42 pm

What does everyone else who have been davening in 770 need to do? Do they need to quarantine? And what about the their families? What about those that already had antibodies but been near these bochurim?

Why
September 9, 2020 4:43 pm

Why are the here, they should of not been allowed to come to Crown Heights, Isreal is out of control w the virus, guaranteed they r not quarantined. This is going to be a problem for Crown Heights.

for shame
Reply to  Why
September 9, 2020 7:10 pm

Shame on those who brought them here!

Those who brought them here?
Reply to  for shame
September 10, 2020 11:13 am

They are adults. They got on a plane and came themselves, as they have every right too.

Look at the previous post for answers
September 9, 2020 4:47 pm

A farbrengen. With young and old, no sanitary measures, no masks.

Pretty careless
Reply to  Look at the previous post for answers
September 9, 2020 5:07 pm

Im scared to think about Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Simchas Torah in 770 with everyone stuffed together for hours.

We must take this seriously
September 9, 2020 4:48 pm

We must protect the community. We understand that bochurim and girls need to come in to learn, but we have to make sure that we can enforce compliance once a issue is detected. Never forget the more then 50 of our community who passed away. Never forget the hundreds which were knocked out for weeks becouse of the virus. Never forget the hundreds who escaped death by the skin of their teeth. Never forget the nonstop ambulance and hatsala sirens on the streets of crown heights. Some may say that it was the doctors fault, that it was becouse of… Read more »

???
Reply to  We must take this seriously
September 9, 2020 8:30 pm

how was this the doctors fault ???!!

Medication
Reply to  ???
September 14, 2020 12:21 am

They aren’t making medication accessible. Or giving out information about protocols that work.
There IS medication that works. Ivermectin, hydroxycloroquine and zinc , quercetin and zinc. Why is Dr. Zelenko the only one who dares to speak up to save lives?
Why do we mindlessly go along with the leftist’s program to destroy everything, lock everything down, kill everyone’s livelihood, and imprison the vulnerable, and the rest of us ?

They should not have come
Reply to  We must take this seriously
September 9, 2020 9:14 pm

They don’t need to come. They can make other plans until this is over. There is no ‘must come here to learn’. Especially not putting others at risk.

Enter 770 at your own risk...
September 9, 2020 4:54 pm

Hope crown heights doesn’t become a hotspot once again. The authorities won’t be nice this time around. Brace yourself.

we are heading there
Reply to  Enter 770 at your own risk...
September 9, 2020 7:11 pm

Yup…numbers are climbing. Disease is spreading and we are to blame.

Concerned in MA
September 9, 2020 5:01 pm

What would the Rebbe say about how 770 is dealing with this? People who are not using common sense should be ashamed.

Quarantine isn't the answer
September 9, 2020 5:24 pm

You can quarantine for months and come out clean but that won’t help. We were banking on herd immunity which means people with antibodies. The only way to get those is by being sick or a vaccine. Bringing hundreds of clean ppl to town only takes away herd immunity and creates a breeding ground. All it takes at any time is one guy to meet a friend who came for a wedding who tests positive and everyone will have to go back to quarantine in best case or cause another wave between the clean ppl who might be visiting the… Read more »

Shocking.
September 9, 2020 5:26 pm

Actually the least shocking thing possible. I would have been shocked if none of them got it. It’s absolutely ridiculous and irresponsible that they were allowed to come.

Agree
Reply to  Shocking.
September 9, 2020 7:43 pm

Couldn’t agree more. It’s crazy that the community leaders allow this.

Rosh Hashanah?
September 9, 2020 5:26 pm

As if these Bochurim will stay in their dorms for R”H?
And speaking of R”H, what’s going to be with 770? Can the Drs put out a statement? It should not be open this year for Davening

Too late
Reply to  Rosh Hashanah?
September 9, 2020 6:08 pm

The drs have put out a ton of statements they weren’t followed. No one is ready to be there only one with a mask it needs to be a community wife initiative.

Apartments and basements for rent
September 9, 2020 5:29 pm

400 new yeshiva bochrim arrived from israel and they were not accepted in the yeshiva dormitory -1414 so they rented many beds for them all over the neighborhood.
Landlords needs the money to pay high tuitions…

In addition, hundreds more guests are expected to attend the Tishrei holidays

In israel The fine for not wearing a mask is 500 NIS Do not give up masks and hygiene and for keeping a distance in 770 and in the whole neighborhood

insane
Reply to  Apartments and basements for rent
September 9, 2020 7:14 pm

This is utterly insane

Solution
September 9, 2020 5:36 pm

All humans from all places have to quarantine themselves forever so we make sure the healthy ones have no food or resources to survive! let’s forget about this leftist agenda of making this Covid story so bad… yes people passed away but for sure we will blame the virus only and not the hospitals for following crazy recovery protocolos and insanely dangerous procedures for people who got hospitalized. Let’s not forget the painful message from Reb Moishe Rubashkin of how healthy people got hospitalized just for more oxygen and ended up in crazy critical condition because of bad treatment and… Read more »

Just wear a mask!
September 9, 2020 5:43 pm

All these pictures on THIS WEBSITE of ADULTS in 770 not wearing masks. Makes me feel disgusted. Dont do it for yourself if you are so arrogant, and think you are above the virus. Do it for the HUNDREDS in CH who are AT RISK and of ALL AGES who have spent MONTHS indoors, finally able to go out a little now. YOU might be the one to send them back to GEHENOM locked in their homes for G-d-knows-how-long. WEAR THE MASKS.
Oh and kvutza should’ve skipped this year. Just an opinion.

Calm down
September 9, 2020 6:13 pm

Was this bochur with symptoms? Studies are now showing that only with symptoms is the virus contagious.
90% of those tested positive recently really don’t have it.
Really this panic mode isn’t helping anybody.
By the way, how is this bochur feeling?

Sick
Reply to  Calm down
September 9, 2020 7:16 pm

He is sick for your information or no one would know he has covid. He was not tested for no reason

Werent all 200 tested
Reply to  Sick
September 10, 2020 8:08 am

Anyone in contact with someone testing positive needs to be tested with or without showing symptoms

Anonymous
Reply to  Sick
September 13, 2020 9:15 pm

Can you get him some quercetin and zinc? (Both are over the counter vitamins)

Virus can be contagious without symptoms
Reply to  Calm down
September 10, 2020 8:05 am

The most contagious time can be before the symptoms show according to medical experts

What about the out of towners
September 9, 2020 6:32 pm

What about all the people that come in every day from out of crown Heights May someone tell me how that is permissible

Gedalia society at fault and Gabboim
September 9, 2020 6:37 pm

1) Why were they allowed to come?
2) Many bochurim have fake lab reports saying they have anti-bodies which is not true.

They are exposing everyone in the neighborhood!!!

Why are there no cleaning protocols in 770
No masks
No sanitizer
no soap
No hot water to wash

HASHEM YERACHEM!!!!!!

How is Gedalia society at fault??
Reply to  Gedalia society at fault and Gabboim
September 9, 2020 8:19 pm

I fail to see how they are liable for giving good advice that people choose not to follow. They do not have the legal power to enforce the law and can’t be blamed for people not using seichel. You should rather be showing a great deal of hakaras hatov to them and to the doctors for keeping us informed, for providing the best guidance using information available at the time, and for providing so much material assistance when it was most needed.

Gedaliah Society
Reply to  Gedalia society at fault and Gabboim
September 9, 2020 9:35 pm

The Gedaliah Society did not give permission for them to return to Crown Heights when they did; they did that without permission and not in accordance with medical guidance. There’s a limit to how much power or mandate the Gedaliah Society has. There are elected officials in this community with the mandate to act on the guidelines of the Gedaliah Society.

Israel has around 3,500 new cases every day
September 9, 2020 6:46 pm

israel has around 3,500 new cases every day with around 8% of those tested found infected.
Around 15 people are dying every 24 hrs from covid 19.
40 cities are on partial lockdown and the whole country may be on lockdown for rosh hashana and all tishrei.
Its being decided in the knesset tomorrow
So why on earth is anyone hosting israelis without covid testing and proper quarantine???
Why are there no masks in 770? Why no hand sanitizer? What about social distancing?
Anyone going to 770 under these conditions is relying on miracles
Where are the rabbonim and gabbaim??.

In Israel
Reply to  Israel has around 3,500 new cases every day
September 10, 2020 3:12 pm

We are on a curfew…. no maariv if your shul is more than 500 meters from your house. We probably will have a total lockdown for Tishrei. Our lives as we knew them are over, and that SHOULD mean no Kvutza. You Crown Heightsers are crazy for hosting ANYONE from Israel. These kvutza guys should not be allowed into the US, even the ones with American citizenship. It’s bad enough what they are doing here (hardly a mask to be seen in Kfar Chabad when I was there this week) but to import more cases into Crown Heights, even unwittingly,… Read more »

Seminary Girls
September 9, 2020 7:40 pm

Just like we send out girls to Israeli seminaries the Israelis are sending their bachurim here. Maybe we shouldn’t be so upset at them for coming

No one should be going to israel now either
Reply to  Seminary Girls
September 10, 2020 8:17 am

you do not go to a dangerous place and hope you will be spared.
In an israeli seminary in jerusalem it was just reported yesterday.
200 usa students came and went to quarantine at a seminary in jerysalem.
Meanwhile 2 israeli students at the school seperate from them were diagnosed with the virus.
Result is 125 students and teachers out of 200 in quarantine and school is closed.
Why in the world do you want to send your kids into this.

No one should be traveling anywhere now

Smaller pods?
September 9, 2020 8:20 pm

I wonder if for the future it would be wise to do the 14 day quarantine in smaller “bunks” or “pods”? That way if one person tests positive only those 10 or 15 bochrim would have to quarantine again instead of all 200?

why the hostility towards the bochurim?
September 9, 2020 8:47 pm

You can barely find a person, young or old, in CH who wears a mask nowadays. If that’s the case why the hostility towards the bochurim?
Furthermore, if you are so concerned make an outdoor minyan for RH and Yom Kippur, or just go listen to kriyas haTorah and kol shofar and daven the rest outside.

Not just bochurim
Reply to  why the hostility towards the bochurim?
September 9, 2020 9:56 pm

No hostility.
But now a bochur tested positive. And it seems like they don’t know how he got it. Which means either that he got it in israel or that there is spread in the community in any case those that were closest to him should wear a mask and quarantine, and yes… Anyone that davened in 770 recently should be wearing masks…
And in general in 700 you should be wearing masks now.

Life has to go on
September 9, 2020 9:15 pm

There’s no good way for 770 to be open but life has to go on. And I don’t think we can’blame’ the bochirim, people come from all over at any time, it’s a public place for all intents and purposes. I have to ride the subway to work to feed my family and pay tuition. I also have to shop in C.H stores and go to shul. We’re all as much of a risk as the next person. People who are at risk or have family at risk just shouldn’t go to 770. The masks aren’t a proper solution for… Read more »

do what we need to do
Reply to  Life has to go on
September 10, 2020 5:48 am

CLOSE 770 ASAP

Big Red
September 9, 2020 9:26 pm

I have no idea why everyone is so confused. The Doctors are not the Mashpiyim or Rabonim. The Doctors can tell us that one should wear a mask or stand 6 foot away, and wearing a mask is not a law. But since when are doctors in charge of 770, to say if it should be open or closed and furthermore, Covid can come in the street while shopping, so should all stores close down>?

Big Red
September 9, 2020 9:31 pm

How foolish to think of wave 2. I mean, are you a democrat who wants everyone to be afraid and fear everything, or a republican who believes in the Science. By the way, can science tell us where a hurricane will land? No, so why should they be able to tell us the future, if there will be another wave. Its time to get a hold of ourselves and stop thinking with such negative thoughts. As the Rabaeim always say, Tracht Gut vet Zein Gut, think positive and things will turn out positive. May everyone have a Good and Sweet… Read more »

Ana
September 9, 2020 10:02 pm

This is very scary, why did we let these people in to CH. I feel like even if we lock them in 1414 they will take the back door.

SEND THEM HOME
Reply to  Ana
September 10, 2020 5:49 am

Now…before we send members of our community to the hospital or worse.

JUst Look
September 10, 2020 11:23 am

Just look at the picture of the fabreng HOW MANY ARE WEARING MASK

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