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Abraham Samotin of Crown Heights was arrested after police said he lured a 5-year-old girl into a basement and assaulted her. Full Story

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bb3
May 29, 2018 4:47 pm

we saw the father around the streets for years. He seemed not to be well himself. There are many issues. Where are our orgs, agencies, social workers, psychologists etc. how could this have slipped? the sick yid who killed Leiby Kletzky, A”H was also reported to have been not a well-balanced child and for years, he just went through the system. What are we doing? We are Chabad, who are supposed to be more savvy and more involved etc. How do we let these people just slip through. AWFUL.

#44
May 28, 2018 10:04 pm

I am not his mother.

That is another one of your lies.

In criminal court as well, someone says something police arrest you …. Then you go to judge.

You are not guilty at that point.

Stop feeding public lies

#43
May 27, 2018 7:30 pm

It’s obvious that you are his mother, now you just aren’t putting your name on it. What your describing is what happens in civil court not criminal court. Once the police have finished collecting the evidence, the DA will decide what to add to the charges. Considering they are already charging him with a plethora of crimes not to mention he previous 21 arrests you aren’t helping him by enabling him. If you want your son to get better stop trying to break his fall.

#42
May 27, 2018 2:18 pm

Hi you are absolutely wrong.

The police come from a complaint. They don’t do.dna testing etc etc.

You go to court and there both sides ahow their proof

Stop feeding public lies

To the Mom
May 25, 2018 1:19 pm

First off he is on the public news not just JCW. Second off, maybe you don’t know how the law works. For fear of COLLIVE censoring this comment, let me explain what evidence before an arrest is. There has to be probably cause which means that there is strong evidence that the person is guilty. This includes DNA from bodily fluids, skin cells, blood that could have been left behind. There is also the statement of the victim who was most likely interviewed by a forensic psychologist and the detectives. Then there is also security cameras which are inside of… Read more »

Abraham Mother
May 25, 2018 1:25 am

How and who put my son on the news, before his case was brought up to the Court and the Judge ?????? This is a statement from JCW only!!!!

are there no institutions for people like this?
May 24, 2018 9:34 pm

“help” doesn’t necessarily entail cure. sometimes the patient needs to be institutionalized, perhaps indefinitely- not hospitalized- to keep him from harming himself and others. that too is help.
as far as the mother’s assumption that the accusation isn’t true, halevie she is right, but generally there are unmistakable signs of such abuse; such signs can’t be faked…

to #22
May 24, 2018 8:23 pm

Which community leaders??

its sad day for Crown Heights and hopefully a wake up call to help their own

To 28,30,37 etc.
May 24, 2018 2:58 pm

In the 1980’s the law was changed to where it’s virtually impossible to institutionalize/hospitalize someone against his will unless HE HAS ALREADY committed a serious crime. You can thank the ACLU for that. The most that can be done is to place someone on a 72 hour hold,put him on meds. (which of course he probably won’t take after release) and release them.

Saw Him Screaming
May 24, 2018 12:21 pm

I personally saw this young man screaming and acting crazy in 770 just a few weeks ago around 7am.
He then walked over to one of our community “leaders” and started yelling at him that he needed help and no one is giving it to him.
So sad.

To the Mothers
May 24, 2018 12:00 pm

To the mom of the Avi, I think you have the truth in fact you have had it for some time. On the article where the public was warned against him, you played the role of the victim being helpless to stop anything or make a change. Now because a heavy accusation has been leveled against him you claim that it can’t be true. There is a concept called probable cause. The police never would have arrested him if there wasn’t already evidence against him that they are not going to release to the public until the trial is set… Read more »

To the mom
May 24, 2018 11:00 am

Mom, I hear you and feel your pain, but you sound like you are in denial over what your son did/is capable of doing. Although you are in tremendous pain and are unable to believe that your son may have actually done such a horrible thing to a little child, you were not there so you cannot attest to what happened. Your denial is the first barrier to your son getting any real help.

Awful
May 24, 2018 9:54 am

This is absolutely sickening. I hope the little girl recovers from this ordeal and gets the proper help she needs. As for this sicko, justice should be served and hopefully come to his senses wherever he ends up.

No it's not all about the man.
May 24, 2018 7:51 am

Please. Of course it’s about the victim. And the point is that we need to take care of the man to prevent MORE victims. And once ur taking care of him we want to make sure he’s going to the right place that will actually help him..and help society as well.
And please realize a predator as this has been abused as well

This is sick
May 24, 2018 6:53 am

A little girl gets abused and so many people are worried about the predator? This girl will be scarred for life, but it’s all about the man.

Don’t let kids walk alone
May 24, 2018 2:37 am

Every time I see 4-5 kids walking alone it makes me cringe. Watch your precious little kids. Crown heights isn’t the safest neighborhood. Even if it was.

JCW
May 24, 2018 12:34 am

What good does it do to put a man like him on your watch wall? If you truly care about the abuse that might happen, you’d get people like him the help they need. Meet with the mother – and the mother of the girl (?). Truly help. It’s easy to sit behind a computer and claim you’re helping the situation. Practically speaking, nothing was accomplished.

Moshiach Now!!!
May 23, 2018 10:22 pm

This is such a terrible thing that could happen. Whose to blame, the community. We should stop taking pictures for col and making speeches, but actually DO something about the situation. Go from school to school to see from 3rd grade and on whose coming from a problem home who is being mistreated by a teacher. Yes so many stories from people who were treated terrible by a teacher yet the community awards such a teacher because of his last name. I know personally of 3 boys who come from terrible homes of neglect yet all we do is talk… Read more »

oy oy oy
May 23, 2018 9:42 pm

I feel for the mother. I feel for the adult son, and I feel for the girl (and keeping in mind what the poster self-labeled as him mon) assuming he did what he was accused of doing. And I’m painfully amused by the people who post here about that he should be helped to be hosp[italized, lashing out at others, community, leaders, etc. If you really cared about this person, you’d find out HOW to get him hospitalized, rehab-ed, and then help make it happen. Do you really fool yourself into thinking you care? (Just like I fool myself into… Read more »

Iam his Mother and will not be silent !
May 23, 2018 9:08 pm

What you don’t know ! Where are the proof ? Did you see any videos ? I didn’t !! I believe my son tell me the truth that he didn’t do abused the child, Why the girl’s walking by herself alone ? The parents scare to death, that the child can be remove from home, From Social services ACS, are ready, after be advice to lie and convinced, that s the best deal to take, that protect, them, they are “covered”!!! this is a conspiracy, story all built from lies, ready to take revenge for being abused himself! didn’t he… Read more »

reuven woonteiler
May 23, 2018 9:07 pm

every one knows that by seven seventy there are
many mentaly ill people collecting tzedokoh instead of giving them money or just ignoring them something must be done to get them the help they need

Anonymous
May 23, 2018 8:05 pm

My question is, where was the guardian/s of this child’s? You’re meant to have an eagles eye on your child/children at all times!!!!

Jail time needed
May 23, 2018 7:27 pm

he literally ruined five-year-olds life should be put in jail and not released for 30 years

CH resident
May 23, 2018 7:03 pm

Wow, thanks for posting, and thanks to Shmira for the previous alert on this guy.

Help
May 23, 2018 6:46 pm

It’s about time community leaders get their act together

Put him away
May 23, 2018 6:45 pm

Predators like this man need to throw in prison for a very long time and medicated. I don’t care if he was abused. No excuse for abusing others. OUR CHILDREN COME FIRST!

Jewish community watch
May 23, 2018 6:38 pm

Everyone should keep up with them…we are going to make sure that everyone knows who the abusers are no matter what they look like

Jail and recovery
May 23, 2018 6:02 pm

Before his mother said she wasn’t sure what to do. Now that he has proven himself a danger not only to himself and the community but also to others now he most likely will be locked away. I hope it leads him down a better path and one to recovery.

To 13 it's too late to be Rahmonimm he destroyed 5 year old Life
May 23, 2018 4:29 pm

He needs to be punished at maximum … his family and community can’t be responsible for his deeds sick if not it’s too late , his mom knew and some community knew that he is Not belong here why they all let him , why ?
My sympathy going to the little girl and her family that needs all our support ….

I'm sick to my stomach
May 23, 2018 4:13 pm

I have a daughter the same age. So horrible. I hope this little girl is ok. I’m sending hugs.

רחמנות!
May 23, 2018 3:40 pm

מה שהוא עשה הפעם זה פשע חמור מאוד והוא חייב להיות בכלא או בשיקום בהקדם האפשרי! אבל ,המשפחה שלו לא אשמה הוא ילד מרדן שלא שומע לאף אחד לא מפחד משוטרים ושופטים בטח לא מפחד מהאמא המסכנה שלו שהוא עושה לה צרות כבר כמה שנים. הוא לא בריא בנפשו והוא גם לא לוקח את התרופות שלו .כל שבוע עוצרים אותו וכל דבר שהוא עשה שיחררו אותו יום למחרת. אמא שלו אשה שדואגת למשפחה שלה כמו לביאה אבל איתו היא לא יכולה להתמודד איתו. היו להם חיים לא פשוטים. תחשבו על המשפחה לפני שאתם כותבים עליהם דברים כאלה קשים. יש אנשים… Read more »

Just because he's a local Yid?
May 23, 2018 3:24 pm

OK, so let’s feel sorry for Leifer, Weinberg, Kolko, Mondrowitz & all the LOCAL, homegrown perverts out there. Being a nebach doesn’t excuse what this sick creep has done. Nor does it matter if he is a Chabad Rabbi & wears a suit, tie & black hat & still runs programs for children – despite a conviction!

Predators deserve jail. Nothing less. They don’t & can’t change. All of you who feel bad for him, I suggest you take him into your homes. JCW has it right.

LA Morah
May 23, 2018 2:54 pm

Tragically,we hear these stories over and over again of mentally ill people who need serious intervention and don’t get it. The entire system, especially the inability to force these individuals to be hospitalized,take meds etc. Is very broken.

Joe D
May 23, 2018 2:51 pm

Although not exactly the same this case comes as close to עגלה ערופה as could in modern times. this is now a double if not more tragedy.

Response to # 3
May 23, 2018 2:18 pm

you are correct that sympathizing with the abuser is not a priority right now, unfortunately abuse doesn’t get lifetime in prison, it’s best he gets hospitalized and get him help, otherwise it’s a matter of time before the next abuse,ch”v

So heartbreaking for both
May 23, 2018 2:15 pm

I am so so sorry for the child and her family.
I am also so sorry for him. I noticed a few years ago that he was trying so hard to lead a normal life. But he lacks the skills and support he needs. We need moshiach NOW!!

Resident
May 23, 2018 2:13 pm

Can I know which idiot landlord rented to this guy? Right in our midst ?

Keep him off the streets
May 23, 2018 2:10 pm

He needs to be in jail and stay there!

#2 what does it matter
May 23, 2018 1:23 pm

1. Who cares if the child was Jewish? 2. Everyone knowing someone is a danger is not a safety safety precaution I once went to a Chabad house, where a secular Jew who was a danger attended. I voiced my opinion to the rabbis saying he should be kicked out. They responded “our kids know to stay away from him” but not the secular kids. One day he exposed himself to one of the rabbi’s son on shabbbos in shul, in the kids play room! And only then was he kicked out but the police never told. There was once… Read more »

His father
May 23, 2018 1:20 pm

Maybe get his dad out of being a homeless guy in 770 when ur dad is homeless what h expect from the kid

This is so sad
May 23, 2018 1:18 pm

I remember this man as a small child. He comes from an incredibly dysfunctional home, and had no childhood. I’m talking serious dysfunction with no resemblance of a normal upbringing. It’s like he had no chance in life. This is a classic case of the abused becomes the abuser. Very very sad, he’s a Jewish Neshama who needs a lot of help, but obviously needs to be kept away from society to get rehabilitated.

Truly tragic
May 23, 2018 1:13 pm

for all concerned. It was obvious he was in dire need of help for a while now.

insanity!
May 23, 2018 1:10 pm

the man’s own mother says he needs to be hospitalized!! why wasn’t he?? absurd!! just waiting for more victims? please please put him away where he needs to be.

Too late for hospital
May 23, 2018 1:08 pm

Once that line has been crossed we have to worry about children’s safety. My heart isn’t big enough to empathize with a predator, every predator is sick you have to be mentally unsound to do this.

soo sad
May 23, 2018 12:56 pm

was this a Jewish child.
everyone knows he is not well, Hahsem Yerachem for both
what a terrible situation, he wasn’t taking his medication

Very sad
May 23, 2018 12:47 pm

In the previous post about the dangers of this man, the mother commented that the city is not allowing him full time hospitalization which is really what he needs.
The leaders must be involved in making this happen!! It is disgusting that they have not yet done so and that this horrible thing occurred! . Poor girl. And this guy who needs help will gain nothing by being put behind bars instead of getting help in the hospital.
Our leaders MUST get this guy in the hospital or every victim he hurts is their responsibility

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