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Fanaticism and extremism
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Fanaticism and extremism

Extremism is what turns young people away. Making up Halachos and Minhagim destroys Jewish lives.

The author failed to mention the extremism when it comes to Pesach cleaning and the like, which makes people dislike the Yomtov altogether.

shishi according to Arizal/Kabbalah and Chassidim
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shishi according to Arizal/Kabbalah and Chassidim

Shishi is always the highest in mystical circles and the Rebbe makes Maftir the highest.

Regarding item #2 with the buttons
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Regarding item #2 with the buttons

I once heard that Rabbi Shalom Ber Shapiro was by the Rebbe and the Rebbe commented on the fact that his buttons were buttoned left over right, so R’ Shalom Ber told the Rebbe that his buttons are only on the one side, so the Rebbe showed him how he can twist the jacket to make it right over left.

Correct me if I am wrong. Perhaps we should call him and ask him

aaah
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aaah

I am on the same page

very good
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very good

How about the new minhag of after horachamon they say baal habayis hazeh
A minhag is very important not only in keeping it but if I can say so even more important is not to create new one’s

Learn
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Learn

If you want to know things as they really are, go to the sources and study. But most people, especially this generation have an attention deficit, are lazy brained, coupled with click-click, google Wikipedia. So, very few ever learned shulchan aruch or minhagei chabad as edited by the Rebbe. Tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth. On the flip side – minhag yisroel torah hee, and achrei rabim lihatos, so eventually that IS the way “we” do things. There aren’t enough learned folks, so the sheep followers abound and create the “we.” Even most current “heilige tznius” laws… Read more »

to 1
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to 1

Just cuz you cant refrain from eating (kosher lpesach) pizza onpesach doesn’t mean the chumros turn people away

7th Aliyah
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7th Aliyah

i think that the fact that shvi’i is the aliya next to maftir which is the rebbes aliyah is a good reason to want shvii (thus making it preferrable).

Espesially as a chosson just the association of my aliya aas the one next to the Rebbes is special. (albeit perhaps not in fact a minhag…)

yet how much more special is it to give up that coveted aliyah to another chosson who you feel wants it even more than you…. (!)

yes, we are waiting to see the Rebbe get maftir again!

Regarding Button
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Regarding Button

I read clearly in a Igros from the Rebbe, The Rebbe told a bochur to ask his mother to sew on a button on the other side of the jacket.

Amalek
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Amalek

Those that do those “minhagim” are SINCERE. I wonder how many of our confused youth which don’t do ANY minhagim or “minhagim” were inspired by the writer of this so-called op-ed. I could imagine that some will DIScontinue some minhagim due to the “inspiration” of such an op-ed.

I hear you, Gabbai...
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I hear you, Gabbai...

We understand that there are areas in Judaism and Chassidishkeit that are going to be interpreted, or in terms of what you are expressing angst about, twisted, in different ways by multitudes of people. In regards to minhagim, I confer to what number 6 said. I would also like to add that legitimate minhagei Chabad, that is, as given over to us by the Rebbeim in explicit fashion, or by word of mouth with legitimate witnesses; in the proper context, are utterly cherished and upheld. I recall part of a letter of the Rebbe, in English in either the introduction… Read more »

 to #3
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to #3

i heard that the rebbe told him or his brother that you could tell your mother to so a button underneeth and that button will go in the hole on the the left side

whats the book?
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whats the book?

bs”d
what’s the book called? i want to see what other new minhagim we have!!!!!!!!

sheva brochos
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sheva brochos

was that always the custom – that you must have one each day for seven days and the whole community has to offer etc.

#1, the extremism on Pesach is directly from the Ari Zal
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#1, the extremism on Pesach is directly from the Ari Zal

The Ari Zal said that on Pesach one should do all the chumros, the more the better, even if they don’t make sense. So this is yiddishkeit.

HaYom Yom 8 Menachem Av
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HaYom Yom 8 Menachem Av

HaYom Yom 8 Menachem Av What good is Chassidus and piety if the main quality is lacking – ahavat Yisrael, love of another – even to the extent of causing (G-d forbid) anguish to another! At least pick some better minhagim if you are going to take a _ _ _ _ on someone. What about the ancient Chabad minhag of triming your beard, dressing like a goy, and having your wife use the eruv? I mean if we are really going to put people in their place the day after Tisha B’Av we might as well have a party… Read more »

what did you gain
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what did you gain

there are so many things that are not as they should be. What did you gain by bringing to peoples attention things that do not harm anyone!!! You just caused people to doubt ALL minhagim as stusim and lokshen. Please when you see people doing things like this that DONT HARM anyone. REFRAIN from being AMALEK. Just look at all the negative comments Hashem Yerachem!!!!

To #3
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To #3

As I remember hearing the story from rabbi YL Schapiro the Rebbe told him to ask his mother to saw a button on the inside.

#6
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#6

you’re on target

Only a baal teshuva
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Only a baal teshuva

“Oh well. He’s a baal teshuva that might have not learned enough or didn’t understood the root of things.” Thanks for the vote of confidence.

minhagimo
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minhagimo

What about the minhag of davening at 3:00 in the afternoon. I’m pretty sure we’re the only Jews who do that. Oh right we do it because we wake up early and learn chassidus…
Such a disgrace to chassidus.

To #2
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To #2

I’m pretty sure I also Heard that though it’s only meant to be temporary untill you sow a proper one

#5 horachamon... Baal habayis hazeh
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#5 horachamon... Baal habayis hazeh

The source of this minhag is a sicha from the Frierdiker Rebbe.

Citizen Berel
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Citizen Berel

This is very perceptive.

Mr. Gabbai discovered the secret to these minhagim. It very, very good, than finally we live in a smart generation what has perceptive people looking into minhagim so we will never be fooled again.

We are very lucky to have smart people what tell us “How New Customs Get Created.”

This is the golden era of Jewish leadership.

Arieh
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Arieh

According to the Zohar and the Arizal, Shishi is considered the highest.

However, there are opinions brought down that Shvii is the highest, for a number of reasons, IMHO;

(a) Shvii “defines” Shabbos since other regular days never have 7 Aliyahs
(b) Shtei Kedushos; Barchu at the beginning and Kaddish at the end (assuming no Hosafot, Acharon, etc…)
(c) Chazak aliyah at the end of each Sefer
(d) Other major Parshyios; Tefillin in Bo, Akeda in VaEyra, etc…

beans
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beans

While we’re at it…throwing beans during eicha on tisha b’av has become a holy mitzvah in some camps etc. Its roots may stem from combating overly mournful expressions, which were generally discouraged in Lubavitch, but nowadays it doesn’t seem like we need to be concerned about overdosing on aveilus, aderaba, so the beans just make a total mockery of Tisha B’av.

Opening the Aron Kodesh
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Opening the Aron Kodesh

I hear that when one’s wife is pregnant, the husband opens the Aron Kodesh before Kerias HaTorah. In some places they even ask if there is anyone that needs to open it. It seems like a pretty new minhag. Does anyone know the source?

ANOTHER "NEW-OLD MINHAG": TACHNUN AND THE TEFILLIN STRAP
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ANOTHER "NEW-OLD MINHAG": TACHNUN AND THE TEFILLIN STRAP

Another Minhag I have seen almost categorically in Lubavitch Yeshiva’s is Bochurim using their Tefillin strap to cover their forehead during tachnun. I once asked a Bochur why he does so, he explained that the Rebbe used his Tallis to cover his forehead during Shachris. But as bochurim dont have a Tallis, he imitates the Rebbe using the Tefillin straps. A Lubavitcher Rov once told me that this is a Minhag Shtus. The reason we use our right hand for Tachnun during Shachris is so we do not degrade the honor of the Tefillin on our left hand ( מִשּׁוּם… Read more »

"two old minhagim"
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"two old minhagim"

What’s the deal with pulling on the ear after a sneeze and about not stepping over someone or they won’t grow are they just something that stemmed from someone trying to get people to listen or did they actually have something that they were based on.? anyone know?

lol
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lol

there are many more…

28, very interesting
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28, very interesting

Thanks, I didn’t know that about the Tefilin strap.

To #27
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To #27

Read here: http://thetorahcenter.com/page.asp?pageID=%7B56F73177-782C-4F25-8F70-A6DC14F11327%7D&displayAll=1

Indeed, this Minhag is made up.

No offense to anyone, but I believe these Minhagim are perpetuated and agitated by Ba’alei Teshuva, who do it because they see FFB’s doing it sometimes.

how about a minyan?
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how about a minyan?

once in empire stiebl i saw a yungerman look around at borchu for a minyan. he counted with his fingers pointing to people that are holding at yishtabach. this minyan had about 30 guys davening and holding with the minyan. when asked why he did this he said “this is the minhag in 770”

#32 you are offensive
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#32 you are offensive

#32 you are offensive, very little difference between Ba’alei Teshuvas today and FFB’s… there are just as many misguided FFB as BT, and many BT that are ‘holding’ as FFB

32 what on earth do u mean!?
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32 what on earth do u mean!?

“No offense”…BUT… OFFENSE. How dare you make a vague and deliberate statement against Baalei Teshuva? For all you know there are countless “gezhe”people who are just as ignorant, who perpetrate these minhagim the same way! It was very nice of you to bring the link to Rabbi Brauns Halachic clarification of psichas haAron during pregnancy, but when I was in yeshiva I saw numerous chavrei hanhola do psicha n that manner, and no one blamed baalei Teshuva! The mashpiim were FFBs! And so am I! Have some Ahvas Yisroel before you attempt Hoicheiach tichiach es amisecho.

aliya and tefilin
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aliya and tefilin

1. There is many different minhagim regarding which is the most important aliya. The fact is that in Lubavitch Maftir is the most important followed by Shlishi and then Shishi. In the time of the frierdiker Rebbe which got maftir the Shlishi was given to the Rasha”g the oldest son in law (this is the aliya he got his entire life since then) and Shishi was the Rebbes aliya (then called the Ramas”h) as the younger son in law. I think this is an indication of the minhag Chabad in this respect. 2. Regarding using the retzuoh for nefilas hapayim… Read more »

Our family's experience
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Our family's experience

Referring to your article “How New Customs Get Created”, I would like to share our family”s experience with the Rebbe concerning the buttoning of  a mans garment, right on left.   It has been a tradition in our family for decades, as we heard  it from our father, R” Shalom Ber Schapiro, and from his father, Our zaide, R’ Lipe Schapiro: When my Zaidy and father went  into Yichidus, in honor of my fathers birthday (he was a  young teenager then), the Rebbe looked carefully at my fathers jacket, which was buttoned left on right, then he stood up front… Read more »

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to 23

Please give a source

to #36
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to #36

Just because “all bachurim do it” doesn’t mean it’s correct!
There is an issue of using the retzua for no reason. The only reason the Rebbe uses the talis is to cover his face during nefilas apayim. The tefillin strap does not fulfill this purpose.
There is a gemara about minhagim that get started by youth without them asking why the elders do what they do.
Yidden should be more learned in general and not do things because he or she sees others do so.

to #20
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to #20

Aha, so the author mentioned baalai teshuvah, too

M A Seligson
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M A Seligson

to # 2- the Rebbe did not make maftir the biggest, all the Rebbe’im received maftir. the Rebbe explains it in Sichas Simchas Torah 5715,.

to#39
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to#39

Isn’t that want most people do. They do things that most people do to be in the group. That’s a herd mentality to me.

to 28
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to 28

1)the reason why we use the tefilin strap is because we need a covering and your hand is insufficent due to the fact that ones skin is not considerd a covering for oneself 2)there is no problem with kavod hatefilin since yor are using the side that is not painted whereas if you would use your hand tefilin your are using the side that is painted

wow #1!
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wow #1!

quite quick to judge you are

RE: Another old-new Minhag
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RE: Another old-new Minhag

One of the reasons we use a Tallis in the first place is because its a Chefetz Shel Mitzvah and the Retzuah of the Tefillin is a Chefetz Shel Mitzvah.

to #28
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to #28

it’s a halach in shulchon oruch

RE: Another old-new Minhag / Using tefillin Strap
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RE: Another old-new Minhag / Using tefillin Strap

A simple google search has brought me to http://www.haoros.com, to an article written by Rabbi Aharon Berkowitz of Jerusalem. I have copied the original hebrew text below. For those who dont read Hebrew well: Rabbi Berkowitz basically writes that he has seen written discussion on “old-new minhagim” and brings exactly what #28 argues, stating that Shulchan Aruch states that leaning should be on the right hand, and perhaps the minhag started from bocurim seeing the Rebbe using his Tallis and people understood this to mean that you need a chefetz mitzva to shield you (as #45 writes). He concludes, that… Read more »

RE: Another old-new Minhag
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RE: Another old-new Minhag

To all those giving “reasoning” to the minhag of using the tefillin strap: No one says there isnt some logic reason. There may very well be. But fact remains that there is no such Mekor (root) in written Halacha or Minhag Avoseinu Veraboseinu. This is the very reason for this article, to point out various customs which have possibly become common practice without a real or true source. We have yet to see a responsa from the Rebbe in this regards, nor a personal account where the Rebbe told a bochur to use his tefillin strap. Therefore we can conclude… Read more »

TO #43
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TO #43

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1) Your right arm should have a sleeve on it (not skin) as according to Lubavitch minhag you will be wearing a jacket covering your upper body, revealing your left arm only. Therefore using your right jacket sleeve should suffice.

2) Where did you find that the non-painted side of tefillin has less importance?

Holes in the Schach
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Holes in the Schach

Here’s an all time non-minhag classic: The Hiskashrus from Israel writes that the minhag Chabad is to have a lot of schach. But in order to be able to see the sky, one should make holes in the schach with a pole or the like. The source of the holes seems to be from the Rebbe’s Sukkah. A few years ago, Sholom Ber Ganzburg, who was a Mashbak in the Rebbe’s house wrote up some of his zichronos. He writes there that they once were expecting rain and they put down the cover of the schah. He/they then forgot and… Read more »

Smelling havdalah candel???
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Smelling havdalah candel???

Any source???

to 51
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to 51

the rebe writs in reshimos that smelling… is not our custom.

Silver Spoon at Chasuna
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Silver Spoon at Chasuna

While we’re at it, I’ve always wondered the source of walking over the silver spoon at a chassuna. I’ve checked a few seforim and didn’t find any reference.

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