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From the COLlive inbox: “Growing up in Crown Heights in the 80’s and 90’s as a child of Bal Teshuva parents, I started off with lots of confidence which slowly faded away…” Full Story

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Mrs. Miriam Althaus, 81, OBM

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As a young women from Bt parents in the 90s
July 29, 2023 9:31 pm

I can say, you were fortunate for a teacher in 8th grade to help you pull through. By me in 4th grade I made my teacher aware that I’ll not be able to keep up in my studies if she didn’t help me. She made me feel its not her problem and left it upto me. I didn’t make it obviously even till 8th grade. But I told myself I perhaps i Didn’t make it academically but made it spiritually. Lots of girls gave up on keeping pnimiyus values on Hashem and His Torah. At least I know I kept… Read more »

Not her problem?
Reply to  As a young women from Bt parents in the 90s
July 30, 2023 5:04 am

What kind of teacher was that?

yiddish
Reply to  Not her problem?
July 30, 2023 10:03 am

hebrew is the jewish language. It is the holy language. Time for everyone to speak hebrew instead of yiddish! Prepare for the messiah!

Yes, but
Reply to  yiddish
July 31, 2023 8:26 am

One cannot flip a switch and suddenly know Yiddish. You speak as if someone not fluent (yet) is just being defiant or lazy or something!

at least you didn't go to public school
Reply to  As a young women from Bt parents in the 90s
August 1, 2023 9:56 am

any jewish school is probably better than public school. Everyone do something to save all the lost jews who are forced to go to public non jewish schools! Get them out of public school!

Thank you
July 29, 2023 9:44 pm

Very informative article. I am sure you are not the only person who has a story like this. People from the community should collaborate and put together a useful guide from their childhood perspectives and experiences for teachers who may not be aware of, or know how to deal with children going through these kinds of struggles.

A teacher
Reply to  Thank you
July 30, 2023 6:52 pm

Teachers should also collaborate and make a useful guide with stories of how parents hurt teachers in ways they may not be aware of.
Unfortunately it’s comments like this that push quality teachers out of the classroom.
The way to build a teacher is by focusing on the posiive they are doing.

Yes, let's learn from this and then stop labeling!
Reply to  Thank you
August 1, 2023 2:26 am

We’re moving into something far greater than these labels BT, FFB. It’s time to learn, grow, connect, and get ready for something so much more than labels for your fellow Jew. You are better than this.

Hi child of a Bal Teshuva
July 29, 2023 10:07 pm

I am not sure what the connection is with being a bal Teshuva. This is a universal problem.

A step harder
Reply to  Hi child of a Bal Teshuva
July 29, 2023 11:16 pm

As a child of Baal Teshuva parents I can attest to the same fact that my parents not knowing Yiddish made it impossible for them to help me with homework.
Just a small part of his story.

Been there
Reply to  Hi child of a Bal Teshuva
July 30, 2023 12:07 am

What is the connection to being a child of a Baal Teshuva? He made the point that his parents had a hard time helping him do his homework. Being a child of Baalei Teshuva myself, I can understand this. Been there. Just imagine bringing home high school math homework for your father, a graduate of Oholei Torah to help you with. He wouldn’t be able to, because he doesn’t have that education. There are specific difficulties for different demographics of people. The particular comment of the fourth grade teacher of “Rosenberg, when will you learn a Jewish word”? Is a… Read more »

Disagree on one point
Reply to  Been there
July 30, 2023 8:16 am

While it’s very wrong to humiliate any child, I highly doubt that the teacher’s insult was specifically directed to the fact that he was the child of baalei teshuva.
I think that’s taking it too far.

From Been There
Reply to  Disagree on one point
July 31, 2023 1:44 am

Not saying that the teacher was picking on him because he’s a child of Baalei Teshuva. He just picked on a challenge that is particular to children of Baalei Teshuva when he expressed his frustration or intolerance with his student. It’s like telling a child whose parents are immigrants “when will you be less Russian/Israeli/French…?” Children don’t choose their parents and their parents areas of strength or weakness. Children don’t choose if their parents know Yiddish or can help them advance in “learning a Jewish word” Highlighting a person’s area of challenge, in public, in an out-of-control way, is not… Read more »

We need to be more sensitive
Reply to  Disagree on one point
July 31, 2023 2:42 pm

I don’t think the comment was geared to his background. However we need to be sensitive not only to what we say but to how our words will be heard.
We see this clearly in halacha that one must be extra careful with how we talk in front of a ger. Although he/she is a full fledged Jew in every way, we cannot just throw out comments without thinking.

FFB
Reply to  Been there
July 30, 2023 9:34 am

“Learn a Jewish word” is the translation from the Yiddish
“לערן א אידיש ווארט”.
This is a terms used often to encourage all to learn a Yiddish Word i.e. Torah.
It is used in all Yeshivos, camps etc. This is used for all and not directed at Baal Teshuvos.

Child of BT’s
Reply to  Hi child of a Bal Teshuva
July 30, 2023 12:10 am

I remember teachers saying “go home and ask your father…” about some specific Chasidishe name, rebetzin, date etc. My father is an educated man in many areas, but not those areas. Yes, that’s something that felt different about being a child of BT’s.

You are automatically behind
Reply to  Hi child of a Bal Teshuva
July 30, 2023 12:51 am

As hard as your parents try there is only so much they can help you with….

Fellow child of BT Parents
Reply to  Hi child of a Bal Teshuva
July 30, 2023 12:58 am

It’s from having little to no one to help review concepts at home. I had some neighbors who were willing to help me, but only because my mother asked for help.

agree
Reply to  Hi child of a Bal Teshuva
July 30, 2023 2:44 am

this is a very important article, but many kids struggle with struggling at school and many kids don’t have the academic help they need from their parents for a variety of reasons

the connection with being a baal teshuva
Reply to  Hi child of a Bal Teshuva
July 30, 2023 4:29 am

The author stated this in so many words, his parents were not able to help him with his schoolwork because he was at a Yiddish-speaking yeshiva. Not many baalei teshuva are fluent in Yiddish.

Beautiful article
Reply to  Hi child of a Bal Teshuva
July 30, 2023 8:40 am

I think every teacher and rebbi must read this article. Kol hakovod for writing this.

The BT parents got him tutors
Reply to  Hi child of a Bal Teshuva
August 2, 2023 10:44 am

The “..as a child of Bal Teshuva parents, I started off with lots of confidence which slowly faded away…” in bold and starting off the article – it sets off the wrong tone. It comes off as the fault of the parents because they were/are BT. The author gives the proper context by saying his parent’s got him tutors – so this is a universal problem – not a child of BT problem. I don’t think the opening statement should have hightlighted the BT issue. Perhaps it would’ve been better subtitled and put in bold font “The difference beween a… Read more »

Thank you!
July 29, 2023 10:10 pm

Can totally relate, my parents are also BT and school didn’t go so well either. There’s just so much to catch up and learan to fit in and get to where everyone else is at.

Abuse
July 29, 2023 10:16 pm

I was thrown out of class belittled and humiliated by a ‘teacher’ because I didn’t bring money to pay for his birthday party.
This is a beast, not a human being. Worst of the worst.
Glad the schools of today have better oversight….

Agree
Reply to  Abuse
July 30, 2023 12:07 pm

Terrible.

And how did he get away with such behavior??

He didn’t have to account for it.

Beautiful Article
July 29, 2023 10:17 pm

As a teacher, this is the most beautiful article I have read for a long time. Thank you for sharing.

Agree , Just Beautiful
Reply to  Beautiful Article
July 30, 2023 1:19 am

Straight Forward, very real and unfortunate many relay to your Powerful journey.
Continue bringing the light

If you had a Gezh last name…
July 29, 2023 10:35 pm

Believe me if you had a last name
Or the school was “scared” of your parents they would have treated you very different. This is the sad reality of our system. When they feel like they need to answer back they don’t just take advantage.

Cannot be more true
Reply to  If you had a Gezh last name…
July 29, 2023 11:38 pm

As someone who went through the system without a gezh last name this is true and so hurtful, try mesivta, camp, seminary, shlichus, each stage is brutal.

Unfortunately
Reply to  Cannot be more true
July 30, 2023 12:21 pm

I’m ffb and my kid was harassed and humiliated in 4th grade. Probably by the same “”teacher””

He caused the kid endless anxiety. By his constant threts.

A real embarrassment that such “”teacher’s”” were allowed to continue that position.

Where was the principal??

Exactly
Reply to  If you had a Gezh last name…
July 29, 2023 11:56 pm

When kids from “certain” families never get disciplined, it teaches “values” that are hepach haTorah.

enough of this trying to cause hurt/machlokes
Reply to  If you had a Gezh last name…
July 30, 2023 2:45 am

what you say is not true

Unfortunately
Reply to  enough of this trying to cause hurt/machlokes
July 30, 2023 11:39 am

I wish you were right…

May not be true for YOU
Reply to  enough of this trying to cause hurt/machlokes
July 30, 2023 1:39 pm

MAYBE YOU HAVEN’T EXPERIENCED THIS. However, it IS TRUE. Stop living in fantasy.
Come from a regular Chabad family and sadly it wasn’t a Gezh name… I felt it, and how.

Heard of this before
Reply to  If you had a Gezh last name…
July 30, 2023 8:20 am

I’ve seen this fact all over the internet, but never in real life (I’m involved in chinuch).

A.s
Reply to  Heard of this before
July 30, 2023 11:40 am

I think its somewhat more subtle (just a sense of mistrust that makes it harder to get in to yeshivos,etc.) It’s less common nowadays BH

FFB and Gezhe
Reply to  If you had a Gezh last name…
July 30, 2023 9:54 am

This has nothing to do with Gezhe or FFb but is true for the uber wealthy families in our community, their kids don’t get disciplined and they get to choose wherever they want to go to school. But this is discrimination against us all and prioritizes money over all else. Absolute Shanda.

Bad chinuch
Reply to  FFB and Gezhe
August 1, 2023 6:46 am

Ultimately the child who never gets discipline suffers, they never dealt with a challenge. As an educator I have been specifically told by a principal, with no reason given, that I am not allowed to discipline certain students. It is terrible for the students who are not getting a real chinuch. I think, if the teacher is a mench in general, all the other students are better off.
Also, I have noticed that not every wealthy person uses money to manipulate their children’s chinuch. Those who do are destroying their own children.

Bad chinuch
Reply to  FFB and Gezhe
August 1, 2023 6:49 am

As a teacher I have been specifically told by the principal not to discipline certain students, with no reason given. Every one of those children was the child of a major donor. Not every wealthy person uses money to manipulate their children’s chinuch, but the ones who are destroy their children. I try to be kind to every student.

Let the teacher know
July 29, 2023 10:46 pm

Maybe tell that 8th grade Rebbi. It will make him feel good

Perhaps you should have stayed in Chinuch
July 29, 2023 10:47 pm

Perhaps you should have stayed in Chinuch 

I’m sure your Mekuravim are lucky to have you

Very nice article!

Hatzlacha in your Shlichus!

Why your parents didn't hire a tutor?
July 29, 2023 11:25 pm

I think it’s the parent’s responsibility to be on top of their children’s education, communicate with the yeshiva, and see if the child is fallen behind and how to put him back on track. A good teacher will contact the parents first and advise them on how to build up the right schedule for the student that needs help. I was a student of immigrant parents that could not help me with anything but even though we were not wealthy at all, language barrier and their mentality was different, the Chinuch was the priority in our house and we had… Read more »

Hello?
Reply to  Why your parents didn't hire a tutor?
July 30, 2023 9:17 am

If you bothered to read the article, he did have tutors.

Thank you for sharing
July 29, 2023 11:30 pm

I am not in chinuch but this gave me something to think about regarding my own children. Thank you

Adults too
July 29, 2023 11:51 pm

This lesson isnt restricted to children. We must also look at our peers and see if they need help in life.

name
July 30, 2023 12:18 am

why not publicly honor the person who helped you change for the better? say his name.

Baal Tshuva
July 30, 2023 12:26 am

In comment section in every single article that mentions Baal tshuva, there’s this one comment asking what being Baal Teshuva has to do with anything. I’ll tell you. It has everything to do with everything. If you don’t get it, count your blessings. And talk, yes, talk to any random Baal tshuva. See if can handle the truth.

Question
July 30, 2023 12:34 am

What does this have to do with being a child of Baalei Teshuva?

The 40 Families
July 30, 2023 12:35 am

If you were a direct descendant of the 40 families from Lubavitch or Nevel, you would have been treated a bit nicer.

Stop this nonsense
Reply to  The 40 Families
July 30, 2023 8:24 am

Stop creating victims.

I’ve never had a teacher who treated baal teshuva kids any worse. On the contrary. They treated them with more compassion and sensitivity then the rest of us.

So true
Reply to  Stop this nonsense
July 30, 2023 5:27 pm

My experience was much stronger, that they only cared about the BTs and not the FFBs

To So true
Reply to  So true
July 31, 2023 1:57 am

In what ways?

FFB and Gezhe
Reply to  The 40 Families
July 30, 2023 9:57 am

Absolute lie. I am a descendant of Nevel, with a rich history and Yichus, yet when it comes to the schools, all they care about is money. Especially the seminaries and Mesivtas.

Name the 8th grade rebbe
July 30, 2023 12:52 am

You should name the wonderful 8th grade rebbe. He is your hero! He must be also a hero for other students.

LA Morah
July 30, 2023 12:52 am

I am in awe of your 8rh grade Rebbi. I daven that l can have the patience,care and love for my students that your Rebbi had for you.

An experience of mine
July 30, 2023 1:03 am

In 4th grade I didn’t smile very much (this probably helped), and my teacher would stop class and stare at me with a big fake smile/smirk on his face trying to force me smile back at him. I’d try and resist and just stare back at him, but as a kid I couldn’t do it for more than a few moments before I broke and my mouth twisted into a smile. It was the furthest. thing. from a smile. At that point, very pleased with himself, he would announce to the class that when you smile at someone, they’ll inevitably… Read more »

A.s
Reply to  An experience of mine
July 30, 2023 11:45 am

A couple of “great” mechanism that I’ve seen were really just some people with ego complexes and something to prove. Not genuinely caring for their talmidim. Thankfully I’ve only heard of 2 people like this

Gezh mom
July 30, 2023 1:14 am

I cannot speak to this view, that BT kids are treated differently, because I have a “Gezh” name … But, my kids definitely had different attitudes from different teachers. There was the teacher that decided my son’s questions were either to annoy him, or waste class time. A subsequent teacher saw his sharpness, and appreciated his questions. There were also teachers of my daughter that had such different attitude towards her behavior. Bring gezh does not (always) protect children from a teacher that does not have the patience to teach different children Let’s not turn this into a gezh /BT… Read more »

Kol hakavod to the teacher who never gave up
July 30, 2023 1:31 am

Who is the teacher? Please share
I hope you at least told him…

Rabbi Feitel Levin was the teacher
Reply to  Kol hakavod to the teacher who never gave up
July 30, 2023 8:55 am

Rabbi Feitel Levin was the teacher

FFB and Gezhe
Reply to  Rabbi Feitel Levin was the teacher
July 30, 2023 11:16 pm

Rabbi Faitel Levin is an amazing person and Gezhe for generations.

Name of 8th grade Rebbi?
July 30, 2023 4:04 am

I had a similar experience. The Rebbe who paid attention and gave me extra love even inviting me to his home for Seudas Shabbos in the 8th grade was, Rabbi Feitel Levin. Rabbi Lustig did as well in earlier years.

Thank you for sharing
July 30, 2023 4:30 am

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

A teacher's Salary should be not less than an acco
July 30, 2023 6:10 am

Accountant
Enough with Tuition Games! THE BEST TO CHINUCH!!

Absolutely!

A [good] teacher’s salary should be $1,000,000 a year but if you make teacher’s salary too high, the tuition would skyrocket commensurate with their salaries precluding many (if not most) Jewish kids from an opportunity of a Jewish education, so as much as teachers deserve handsome payment, children deserve an opportunity of Yiddish chinuch, and the trick is charging the correct amount to strike a relatively perfect balance in an imperfect world. And I think that the correct balance was found and that’s where we are. $7500 a year is alot of tuition and $50-75k is not alot of salary,… Read more »

To Absolutely
Reply to  Absolutely!
July 31, 2023 2:00 am

This is why schools need to fundraise. To help pay teachers proper salaries while also not charging parents way more than they can possibly afford.

Too many "teachers" don't belong in the classroom
July 30, 2023 8:26 am

I am appalled, but sadly not surprised that these so-called “educators” continue to break our children. Chaim was blessed with a rare rebbi in 8th grade who cared about his students and he’s now paying it forward. But most are broken early on and never recover, to the point where they find other ways to feel good, often dropping out & leaving Yiddishkeit. IT HAS TO STOP! Yeshivas need to stop accepting every loser who lives up to the old adage “those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.” A body at the front of a classroom is not what… Read more »

A teacher

While you touched upon some valid points in this comments, you also insulted every teacher with some of your remarks. For example “those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.” and the name calling such as “idiot” “loser” etc..

Unfortunately such a comment will not help get quality teachers in the door but rather it will discourage teachers.
If you are someone that truly cares about education you will focus on the positive and write comments that will be productive towards Chinuch.
If your objective is just to bad mouth teachers keep at it and continue the name calling.

Rabbi Feitel Levin
July 30, 2023 8:38 am

I had the same experience Rabbi Feitel Levin in OT 8th grade. He is a true Mechanech. It would probably be a good idea to invite him to train teachers. He was almost the only one in OT elementary that related to me like described in this article.

Rabbi Feitel Levin
July 30, 2023 8:57 am

I too had the same experience with Rabbi Feitel Levin in OT grade. Truly an amazing educator.

We need to start publicly thanking our teachers and principals that go the extra mile.

what about
July 30, 2023 2:55 pm

that parents who spend all day on their cell phones and computers and can’t be bothered helping their children?
what about the parents who would love to help their children, but are way too overwhelmed with life’s circumstances? Unwell family member, special needs child, lots of mazal in the area of pru urvu and too busy with related demands, etc.
Not being able to help with Jewish studies is definitely a BT issue, but not being able (and/or willing) to help at all is a universal issue!

Some Chinuch Heroes
July 30, 2023 3:11 pm

Some people are not meant to be teachers. Some people are born teacher’s. Two teachers that stand out from my boys’ experience at Cheder Menachem in L.A.years ago are Rabbi Goldman (who taught 2nd grade if I remember correctly) and Rabbi Frankel who taught 4th grade. Both of them had patience and respected every student. When Rabbi Frankel asked a question, if a boy gave him a totally outlandish answer, Rabbi Frankel would thoughtfully analyze it outloud and explain why it was not correct. From my observation, it looked like no one in the class was afraid to raise their… Read more »

As a BT mom
Reply to  Some Chinuch Heroes
July 30, 2023 9:51 pm

That’s beautiful.

As a BT mom
July 30, 2023 9:49 pm

I would like to speak from the perspective of a BT parent. I had a similar experience with my oldest daughter. Once in middle school, she received a homework assignment entirely in Hebrew, which she was having trouble with. Although I attended a non-orthodox Jewish day school, I had reached the point where her learning was past my skill set. I reached out to her teacher — who happens to be a shlucha as well — and asked her to help explain the assignment to *me*, so that I could assist my daughter. Not give me the answers, just help… Read more »

Another BT mom
Reply to  As a BT mom
July 31, 2023 9:20 am

As a BT mom too, I agree that we are treated like 2nd class citizens. Not only is my husband and I BTs but we also have struggled ALOT financially. We get no financial support from family. Many BTs that will say they don’t feel like 2nd class citizens use money to fill that gap.

FFB
July 30, 2023 10:13 pm

I’m FFB and can’t name even one of my Rabeim as memorable. I was more on the quiet side and did not make trouble so was basically left to my own devises. I also had a Rebbi call me out about learning a Jewish word at some point. You were lucky to have at least your 8th grade Rebbi. I made it through the system and Boruch Hashem it did not break me but I know too many of my classmates who it did break 🙁

Unprefertial treatment still alive and well
July 31, 2023 8:33 am

I was recently at an elementary boys school graduation and I’m sure the school administrator was unaware of what he was doing but as he introduced the boys he through out a complimentary remark to who? Every boy that had a name. Otherwise nothing. The sad part is it’s so built in, I’m sure he has no idea.kind of hurt to see how in grown this is .

Had four boys on the system
August 1, 2023 12:45 am

My kids learned in Yiddish. Neither me nor my husband (both out of towners) knew a word of Yiddish. Both me and my husband at the time knew Hebrew. It ruined our shabbos meals not understanding the Parsha sheets which are meant to be a time of nachas. Please switch to Hebrew. It enough learning one new language for these kids but two new languages? If I could do it all over again I would’ve switched schools asap. And regarding teachers, you’re lucky you had an eighth grade teacher that cared and it’s impressive your a shliach today wow kol… Read more »

Where are the leaders ?
August 1, 2023 9:53 pm

Do the leaders in the educational aspect of Chabad maintain quality control of what goes on within their schools? Are expectations made clear? Are specific guidelines communicated? Is there ongoing professional development? It seems to me there is more to the system than WHAT is taught, meaning HOW things are taught is equally important. What are we doing if we don’t consider the whole child? Teaching is an art which some are gifted to engage in and others should not even be in the classroom.

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