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Do’s and Don’ts for Camp Staff

Overnight summer camps will be asking staff members to adhere to a conduct policy for physical and verbal interaction. Full Story

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"YINKOM ES NIKMAS DAM AVODOV"
May 17, 2013 7:05 pm

HASHEM KNOWS THE INNOSCECE OF MENY OF THOSE HUNG IN THE “HALL (HELL) OF SHAME” AND HE WILL AVENGE THEIR BLOOD THAT WAS SPILLED THRUOUT THE STREETS OF THIS SHECHUNAH FROM THOSE CORRUPTED PEOPLE FROM WITHIN OWR MIDST, “Maharisayich umacharivayich mimaich yaitzaiu”.

Thank You Benny!
May 14, 2013 5:19 pm

Yasher Koach to Benny and Meir Seewald for all the great work you guys are doing keeping our children safe. Hopefully you’ll have a lot more rabbonim lend support to this effort. You guys are saving lives. Danny Fishman

To #25
May 14, 2013 2:53 pm

That is something that happened to my friend this past summer, he went straight to Directors and told them about the situation… Not to sure what happened after that, but this is 100% true I know it happens all the time.

To #37
May 14, 2013 10:54 am

“WE” do nothing. You stand up for nothing and do nothing, rather you obfuscate about potentialy ridiculous issues. “Others” do something, only to have your uneducated criticism. Stop looking for things to bash and get behind programs dedicated to saving and protecting children.

Agree with the author of #25
May 13, 2013 10:26 pm

What do we do about this?

To 25
May 13, 2013 10:23 pm

The best thing the counselor can do is to IMMEDIATELY report the threat to the head staff and camp director and ask that the incident be on record that the child made this threat. The counselor should also take the precaution of switching himself or the child to a different bunk. But that is why we need guidelines: so counselors know never to put themselves into a situation where someone could even think to accuse them. And for people who think this is ridiculous: do you think hilchos tznius/yichud are ridiculous and spell things out in too much detail? Following… Read more »

To #34
May 13, 2013 10:19 pm

So because you have some wild notion that had never been proven true, we should just do nothing and enact nothing? That’s absurd.

Sadly, the chazakah is on the predators not the alleged lying kids.

author of #25
May 13, 2013 9:25 pm

While yes, it is possible that the counsler is guilty, it is irelivent!!! The fact is the kids can use this as a serious Threat and they do!!!! Make no mistake; kids will catch on to this! And to 33, once a rumer is spread , it makes absolutly no difference what the investigation proves! The person is screwd for life! And whats next? The staff will Have to stand behind a fence when talking to campers?! In front of 24/7 web cams?? Where does this end?!?!

TO #31
May 13, 2013 8:08 pm

ALL camp directors have been notified and involved in this policy for the past 3 months. They have had opportunity for input, etc.

To address #25, etc. While there may be some kid that will claim that he will make a false claim, incidents are highly unlikely and unusual. Further, the claim will never stand up in the face of police and DA examination. It will fail and the accused will be vindicated. Ultimately, life is subject to human error, but we all must do what is necessary to ensure children are safe and to prevent harm from befalling them.

to 25
May 13, 2013 7:44 pm

I see what your saying, by the same token their could be a person who ACTUALLY does touch a camper inappropriate and use that as an excuse….

To address #25 and other concerns
May 13, 2013 7:24 pm

This issue should not and can not be taken lightly. However this needs to be done in a more modest and professional way. With working together with the camp administration, agreeing that all staff are taught the protocol and sign a contract, sending an email out to parents notifying them of the precaution they are taking and to address the issue to their children- things are more likely to be taken seriously. This is such a strong issue which needs to be tackled effectively and by having this open to kids of all ages on an open forum website instead… Read more »

To 25
May 13, 2013 6:56 pm

Oh my gosh that is aweful!!!!!!!!!

Very important
May 13, 2013 5:20 pm

#25 brought up a very valid point!
Can someone please answer what the counselor should do in such a situation?
Because it can totally happen anywhere and ruin an innocent counselors life!

Hugging
May 13, 2013 4:55 pm

I was a counselor for toddlers a few years ago and gave my kids a ton of hugs, kisses, and rides too, because they were just sooo cute. Based on this though, is it inappropriate?

To #25
May 13, 2013 3:56 pm

Spot on I too saw the same thing this past summer

Strange
May 13, 2013 3:36 pm

– I agree with #22…why was Forer left off?
– Im amazed at the mentality in this chat. People are so opposed to saving kids lives? So opposed to preventing CSA? Are you people for real?

Staff member
May 13, 2013 3:31 pm

Here is real threat to staff, ams I will use a REAL and TRUE incident; I was in a cgi overnight camp this paat summer, when I saw the followoing take place. Counsler: “mendy, im sorry, but as I warned you, you distubed the (bedtime) story and therfore you must wait outside the bunkhouse unti it is over”. camper”oh yeah?!, well of you dont allow me into the bunkhouse I will TELL MY MOTHER YOU TOUCHED ME!!!” This is a REAL threat to staff all over and can ruin their life! Any advice to overcome this?

to #16
May 13, 2013 1:56 pm

A hug is helpful for staff who are not so articulate since staff are only so old they can only do so much a hug could be really helpful

the biggest "dont"
May 13, 2013 1:51 pm

if you are someone who thinks this is not rediculis than the biggest “dont” is dont send your kids to camp!!!

Fan of the DISTRICT ATTORNEY
May 13, 2013 1:40 pm

Why did the article not include Benny Forer’s endorsement? He’s a respected DA who is also an expert in this field.

To #11
May 13, 2013 1:21 pm

Congratulations, you’ve successfully attacked. You are officially a bully. Nice.

Speak like a mensch wontcha? Just like everyone else commenting here!!

Safety Kid
May 13, 2013 12:34 pm

I hear Safety Kid is having a camp training. Anyone have any information on that?

Just my opinion
May 13, 2013 11:37 am

There seems to be a problem here. While this work is important. The organizations behind it must be vetted. These are not issues that one can simply say “better them then no one”. The issues here are serious. Serious people with serious capabilities and transparent modes of operation have to be the ones monitoring this. Not 2 organizations (chjcc and chw) notorious for their corruption. You sleep in the bed you make. Get the right people enforcing this with seriousness before you end up with a problem you wish you didn’t have. While chw can be applauded for shedding light… Read more »

CGI Central
May 13, 2013 11:02 am

CGI central did a camp training conference last year and trained staff on abuse and molestation awareness and prevention. (part of the training included guidelines of proper conduct in camp).
I highly recommend their training again, my daughter went and really enjoyed it.

to #16
May 13, 2013 10:44 am

it proven a hug goes further then words can, children need it,

to #10
May 13, 2013 8:31 am

Affection is not exclusively physical. Kind sensitive ears and words can provide more affection for a child than a hug.

California
May 13, 2013 8:28 am

For many years CGI running springs (a”h”sh) spent a day training counselors with a competent social worker. The course was extensive and professional, bochurim were given the social workers phone number for issues that came up in camp. An opportunity for candid questions was presented, and every issue under the sun discussed from pillow fights to tickling. With all due respect to the organizers, a professionally developed program tailored for frum camps and modified yearly as new issues arrive has been used by all frum camps inCalifornia for last 5 years. Why are resources being used to implement a program… Read more »

to #1
May 13, 2013 8:02 am

If a child is hurt or crying, I think a counselor can give a brief hug to comfort them

Doesn't go far enough
May 13, 2013 7:10 am

Why aren’t our schools & camps doing background checks? Including Chayolei Beis Dovid, Released Time & Friendship Circle volunteers (male AND female)??? We have to check, educate, inform & prevent.

I was fingerprinted & had a full background check a couple of years ago when I was working in a pre school. Even the cooks & janitors had to go through the same thing. If you are clean you have nothing to fear. Things like the Melbourne scandals could so easily be prevented with a little bit of investigation. DO IT!

Hecsher Tzesek
May 13, 2013 5:55 am

This is similar to the Hecsher Tezedek. We don’t need the pepole behind this telling our moisdois how to assure proper care for our children.

I am suprised and dissapointed that this farce is geting any PR at all.

to #1
May 13, 2013 5:49 am

At least you gave yourself the title u deserve…actually, better call yourself OVERconcerned parent. You sound absolutely ridiculous!

Agree with 3
May 13, 2013 3:59 am

Couldn’t agree more…

Needed - unfortunately
May 13, 2013 3:01 am

True, this is necessary, yet it is sad that a mentor CANNOT express the slightest bit of affection to a child. Sometimes this is what is NEEDED, and it will take the child to the next level he needs, maybe missing it from being away from home, etc. But in today’s crazy world, it must be prohibited, lest some hyper-sensitive person accuse a well meaning staff member, or scare a kid into thinking someone is molesting them

#1
May 13, 2013 2:42 am

Dont gorget that kids in camp need hugs sometimes . not too much but when it’s needed. You don’t want ur child to ne sad the whole time and noone should be allowed to help him ….

Isolated areas
May 13, 2013 2:26 am

The woods, wooded outdoor areas where people generally don’t go is also isolated even if it is outdoors.
Public outdoor places at night when everyone is asleep, like behind or side of bunkhouse is also considered isolated.
Please add to list

To #1
May 13, 2013 1:50 am

…That’s throwing the baby out with the bath water.

#1: No hugs
May 13, 2013 1:31 am

No, I think a brief hug is fine.
Remember: It’s healthy for a child to know what healthy affection is. Cutting out all forms of normal affection is unhealthy. It’s important for people to know that they are capable of being warm and appropriate at the same time.

to concerned parent...
May 13, 2013 12:33 am

BRIEF hugging fine…

It's wonderful and yet sad
May 13, 2013 12:14 am

I think this is wonderful because it’s very much needed but it’s sad that we’ve come to this point where appropriate and inappropriate need to be spelled out like this.

I feel like I need to tie that figurative string around my finger to remember that I’m normal in a world that’s going mad

Boys and Girls camps
May 13, 2013 12:00 am

This should be for the staff at both boys and girls camps.

Concerned parent
May 12, 2013 11:53 pm

Keep ALL hugs out! Period. No need for camp staff to be hugging kids.

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