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Crown Heights Ballot Will Be in a Church Again

Jewish residents of Crown Heights and East Flatbush won't be able to vote in person on Tuesday, November 3, as the polling station is once again located inside a church. Election board official Valerie Vazquez suggests alternatives. Full Story

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Anonymous
October 23, 2020 9:25 am

Election interference

Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
October 23, 2020 2:02 pm

Misleading article. Most of the Jewish community options are not in a church. Find your site for early and election day voting here:

https://findmypollsite.vote.nyc

Thank you Eli Cohen at the Jewish community council for the info. Call them if you have questions.

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East Flatbush Resident
October 23, 2020 9:28 am

The absentee ballot came back and was invalid!
Please find a better solution

Another EF Resident
Reply to  East Flatbush Resident
October 23, 2020 1:04 pm

Same thing here. absentee ballot came back as disqualified (because of incorrect voting location).

Anonymous
October 23, 2020 9:30 am

Sue them and quick. They knew this from last time and therefore it’s deliberate

Voter suppression
October 23, 2020 9:31 am

This is voter suppression. There’s no point in having a meeting, when all they need to do is find an alternative to a Church. Unless they’re trying to delay.

Anonymous
October 23, 2020 9:48 am

Jcc? Rabbonim? Anybody?
Is there a hetter for voting in a church?
It’s pikuach nefesh.

Yaakov behrman is hoping this will be resolved for the future?! Maybe time to call the feds for help instead?

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Hetter???
Reply to  Anonymous
October 23, 2020 9:52 am

U can’t go in a church full stop. What planet are you from?

Right or Wrong..
Reply to  Hetter???
October 23, 2020 10:20 am

You must speak to others with respect. FULL STOP.
Let that sink in.

Lean a little
Reply to  Hetter???
October 23, 2020 10:24 am

Rav Moshe Feinstein says you are allowed to vote in a church, especially if you don’t need to go into the actual prayer portion of it.

So yes, there is a heter. Consult your own Rabbi, of course, but the idea that it can’t possibly ever be allowed for any reason is – not true.

Actually
Reply to  Hetter???
October 23, 2020 10:29 am

it’s not always as clear-cut as you’re making it out to be, especially if not going into the actual sanctuary. See here: https://www.kof-k.org/articles/040308030457W-34%20Contemporary%20Avodah%20Zara%20Issues.pdf

People can ask their LOR.

Vote early!
October 23, 2020 9:57 am

The options given above are not as convenient as going in person this week. We are voting in the Brooklyn Museum this Monday.

True, but..
Reply to  Vote early!
October 23, 2020 10:22 am

That is hard for people who can’t take off work during open voting hours.

Anonymous
Reply to  True, but..
October 23, 2020 11:07 am

If Biden wins you won’t have work left to go to. He is pro shut down. Think about it and figure something out. Too much at stake this time around.

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what??
Reply to  Anonymous
October 23, 2020 12:43 pm

some people work real jobs and arent able to take off.

real employers
Reply to  what??
October 25, 2020 1:15 am

Employers, by law, are required to allow you to take off a few hours to vote.

Go on Sunday
Reply to  True, but..
October 23, 2020 12:18 pm

early voting is open on sunday

Yossi
Reply to  True, but..
October 24, 2020 10:56 pm

Some days are as early as 7 am and as late as 8pm.

Early voting!
October 23, 2020 10:19 am

Now New York has the option for early voting
For Crown Heights it’s at the Brooklyn Museum all week – check for specific hours
Not sure if same location for E Flatbush

Ch resident
Reply to  Early voting!
October 23, 2020 11:49 am

As long as your a resident in brooklyn you can go to the Brooklyn public library at GAP and vote early till November 1st.

Just check the website votenyc.gov if I’m not mistaken.

Vote Early
October 23, 2020 10:24 am

You can vote early starting this sunday

Voter suppression
October 23, 2020 10:29 am

Straight up looking to suppress the Jewish vote. Would they dare do this to Muslims?

Voting in church
October 23, 2020 10:44 am

Was a competent Rav consulted?
Is it in their chapel or is it in the basement? If it’s only in a side room or basement, if I’m not mistaken, it’s 100% permissible according to Rav Moshe Feinstein in his igros Moshe

Is there a point in voting in voting republican?
October 23, 2020 10:48 am

If newyork majority are liberals??

Anonymous
Reply to  Is there a point in voting in voting republican?
October 23, 2020 1:11 pm

Yes Yes Yes! Many past liberals and blacks are voting Trump after the riots and abolish the police movement that the Dems promoted. They see how little the Dems have done for them after so many years in power. Our every vote can literally make the difference. Go out and vote!

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Anonymous
Reply to  Is there a point in voting in voting republican?
October 23, 2020 1:35 pm

To: is there a point in voting?

Not sure about everyone voting dem anymore. Used to be true. But now the decent people I meet and talk to (Drs, taxi drivers, neighbors, store workers…) are all quietly seething at the extreme liberal insanity we got to witness and enjoy. They don’t like the huge surge in shootings, lawlessness and crime. They will be voting Trump.

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This is insane
October 23, 2020 12:37 pm

This is true voter suppression. ANd a foretaste if America in general if the wrong party wins. Thanks

LAME EXCUSES
October 23, 2020 1:09 pm

“It is illegal to have two poll sites for the same group of voters so we were unable to secure a tent outside of the current poll site,”

So move it to only the tent or to a different location altogether. They had plenty of time to move it since this issue was brought up. Instead, they chose to ignore it.

Consult a lawyer
October 23, 2020 1:11 pm

Please look into filing a lawsuit, don’t complain about politics if you don’t go out and vote

Heter
October 23, 2020 1:34 pm

I have heard of Hetterim if you don’t need to go into the main prayer section.

A Rabbi should rule it so that all runs smooth.

The Rav already ruled
Reply to  Heter
October 23, 2020 3:39 pm

A Lubavitcher Rav already paskened not to go in. Are you saying he should change his psak?

Which rov said no?
Reply to  The Rav already ruled
October 26, 2020 2:28 pm

I asked a Lubavitch rov who told me that being that its most probably rented out for the day(s) due to Separation of Church & State, therefore we can go vote.

Aron
October 23, 2020 1:55 pm

What happened to the separation of Church and State? It makes no sense that something like this is legal. One could argue its a way for the Church to try recruiting “non believers”

Old news
Reply to  Aron
October 23, 2020 3:39 pm

The athiest and agnostic associations have been fighting this for years

the worst idea ever
October 23, 2020 5:16 pm

this whole thing is puire bs its plain & simple a federal violation it is purposely designed to exclude many of the Jewish community residents couldn’t secure a tent? that i s pure bs & they know it renting a tent is a simple as a phone call. If crown heights can get huge tents set up in a day anyone can The company assembles & disassembles. Its that they don’t want to & they know that Ch leadership[ is for most purposes weak &non existent. The city etc should be dragged into federal court & forced to provide an… Read more »

Leadership
October 24, 2020 10:30 pm

How is it that there is no taking charge on this, same thing happened last time.

Sheya Ebert
October 25, 2020 3:30 am

It is a matter of Pikuach Nefesh, and you should go and vote in person! That’s exactly what I would do!

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