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Coronavirus Update #48: COVID Spread Continues

Coronavirus update for the Crown Heights community from The Gedaliah Society and Dr. Eli Rosen: Upwards of 100 cases of COVID in our community this week, over 50 should take caution. Full Story

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Thanks for sharing and keeping us informed
December 25, 2020 10:56 am

I hope people will listen so we do not G-d forbid lose even one precious person.

Anonymous
Reply to  Thanks for sharing and keeping us informed
December 31, 2020 11:52 am

Important mask information:

Experiment of surgical mask under microscope:
https://youtu.be/J3iJTESqxig

20 Studies on asymptomatic spread:
https://mobile.twitter.com/SabinaWalker18/status/1330341746849550336

Covid positive people are NOT staying home!
December 25, 2020 11:16 am

Please if you got are positive stay home!

Masks and foggy glasses and "proof"
December 25, 2020 11:35 am

Before we hear from the naysayers (why even?) The following should be noted: The virus is all over the world. In places where masks are common, the infection rate is much, much lower than where it is not. I don’t know anyone who died from wearing a mask, or the attendant foggy glasses, but I know many who died from Covid, including my father. It was in the early days of the virus, before masks were mandated. If only we knew then what we know now. Stay safe and please do everything in your power to stop the spread of… Read more »

Addendum
Reply to  Masks and foggy glasses and "proof"
December 25, 2020 2:32 pm

I wrote this comment, and I’ll add the following. Masks are important even if you have antibodies. We don’t know about new strains, but also, it creates a spirit of safety which save lives. When people see others in masks, they are more likely to wear one. In communities it is unacceptable to NOT wear a mask, everyone does, and fewer people get sick and die.

Anonymous
Reply to  Masks and foggy glasses and "proof"
December 27, 2020 11:33 am

It is simply not true that your father died because people were not wearing masks. Masks are proven to NOT make any difference in the virus spread and neither are asymptomatic people who test positive proven to be contagious and able to spread covid. You can believe whatever you wish but please realize it’s a believe that has been disproven by multiple studies and is far from established science unless you consider politicians and medical beaurocrats as trustworthy people after they have been compromised and proven to be profitting and lying to the public.

You are wrong
Reply to  Anonymous
December 28, 2020 10:02 am

What you are doing is called “confirmation bias” by psychologists. You want to believe something so you state it as fact, spouting false, biased studies. Masks reduce spread. Not 100% eradication, but they help A LOT. 15% to 95% of the time. And you’re right that I can’t say for sure if masks would have helped my father. But there’s a really good chance they might have. What is “simply wrong” is your insensitive, ignorant, and boastful comment.

Anonymous
Reply to  You are wrong
December 30, 2020 10:47 am
You are wrong
Reply to  Anonymous
December 28, 2020 10:05 am

And one more thing. Almost no one profits financially from the wearing of masks. Unlike w pharmaceuticals, there is zero monetary motivation or bribery for politicians to promote masks.

Yitzie Stuart
December 25, 2020 11:45 am

When I stop seeing photos from Crown Heights and other places of people without masks then I will know it is being taken seriously and my fellows Jews care about their fellow Jews. Protect yourselves! Please Hashem gave us the power to care for ourselves.

Anonymous
Reply to  Yitzie Stuart
December 27, 2020 12:44 pm

The real virus is communism. Covid-19 is just how it spreads.

Lubavitchers from England
December 25, 2020 11:59 am

I think a good idea is for the time being (next few weeks) for the inyon & sake of Pikuach Nefesh & Sakonos Nefashos, that all Lubavitchers from England that have plans to come to CH should please postpone those trips if they can, Due to the New Covid Strain coming from the UK. Yes the Mainstream Media may have hyped the details about the New Strain (70% more contagious) but the fact is it really does seem like that England new corona strain is spreading much quicker. Sadly we are starting to see dozens of (Tested & Reported, just… Read more »

New corona strain is not only in england
Reply to  Lubavitchers from England
December 26, 2020 11:04 am

The new strain of corona has been found in south america and israel as well. It is strongly suspected of being in USA already

Anonymous
Reply to  New corona strain is not only in england
December 27, 2020 11:40 am

Stop the panic! It shows an utter lack of Emunas Hashem. We are ok. We are in good Hands. Most people recover fully from covid. And there is effective early treatment for the vulnerable, please take them!

The women's oneg Shabbos
December 25, 2020 12:14 pm

There are Friday night block oneg Shabbos groups that are held in dining rooms, with munching goin g on with no masks, a lot of women sitting close to each other around a table, and many of these participants are in the age of being very vulnerable. For the sake of health of our community, pleae discontinue these groups – surely Mrs.Edith Block wouldn’t want anyone getting sick because of her initiative in this!
A guten Shabbos.

They should not serve food and should wear masks
Reply to  The women's oneg Shabbos
December 26, 2020 11:07 am

The men are guilty as well. When they fabreng no one wears a mask!
They should still meet for learning torah but wear masks and not be served food

Anonymous
Reply to  The women's oneg Shabbos
December 27, 2020 11:44 am

I understand that you think you are saving lives by shaming people but please realize that you are causing more harm than help. It is not up to you what people do and you are not able to control anyone else besides yourself and your loshon horo is out of control. Please mask it and social distance it from everyone’s eyes and ears. Thanks in advance

Thank you!
December 25, 2020 12:16 pm

Appreciate your updates!

770
December 25, 2020 12:23 pm

We have this. And we will have a full 770 tomorrow.

Anonymous
Reply to  770
December 27, 2020 11:47 am

Yes bh. I’m happy to see how the young and healthy are getting back to normal despite the naysayers. They are not killing people. It’s a big fat lie meant to destroy us more than the virus ever could.

Thank you
December 25, 2020 12:34 pm

Dr Rosen עמו״ש,,,
For all you do and are,
A gut shabbos

Rebbe
December 25, 2020 12:37 pm

Can you share how many cases of reinfection you are seeing in the community?

Avi
December 25, 2020 1:21 pm

Have there been any actual confirmed reinfections?
I’ve heard plenty of cases about a positive rapid test, and then negative on the PCR.

Yes
Reply to  Avi
December 25, 2020 2:16 pm

A good amount of reinfections. I have 2 friends who have had it twice

Yes
Reply to  Avi
December 25, 2020 2:25 pm

I know of at least one confirmed reinfection in CH.

I have a friend who had it twice
Reply to  Avi
December 25, 2020 3:07 pm

In her 20s in CH. both times pretty mild but still no fun.

Yes
Reply to  Avi
December 26, 2020 9:11 pm

My relative in his late 30’s had it twice. He was sick both times with a fever and cough (relatively mild flu-like symptoms). First time was confirmed afterwards with antibody test. Next time was confirmed by multiple COVID tests (including tests by multiple medical research centers.)

There's ev n more cases than that
December 25, 2020 1:33 pm

Most Kids have mild symptoms and aren’t going to the dr to be tested and young parents are too scared to say they have covid or also aren’t being testedfor fear of shutting down classes or school. Also people aren’t trusting of the government and medical advise because shady things are done for political gain and lives are being sacrificed, there’s treatment for the virus and many died that could have been saved if they were given the right treatment.the right treatment would save more lives than masks. It makes me so angry those who died and terrified of hospitals… Read more »

Doing everything to prevent the spread of Covid..
Reply to  There's ev n more cases than that
December 25, 2020 2:24 pm

It is of utmost importance to do everything to avoid the spread of Covid. Masks, testing, distancing. Regardless of politics.

warning
December 25, 2020 1:38 pm

unfortunately, as we speak a family member is in the hospital due to this virus
no one is safe we don’t know is this a new strain or the same one please, please take these words to heart Hashem should heal all that need a refuah shelayma
Good Shabbos

Don't judge me!
December 25, 2020 1:43 pm

I don’t need a mask!

Yes, I am over 50, overweight and not in perfect health. But I do not need a mask. I do not need to protect myself or you.

Because I have anti-bodies! In fact, many in CH have them after having a bout of the virus.

So don’t preach to me, don’t judge me and leave me alone!

I have antibodies and I wear a mask...
Reply to  Don't judge me!
December 25, 2020 2:21 pm

Because it creates a spirit of safety which save lives. When people see others in masks, they are more likely to wear one. In communities it is unacceptable to NOT wear a mask, everyone does, and fewer people get sick and die.

Anonymous
Reply to  I have antibodies and I wear a mask...
December 25, 2020 3:37 pm

It means a spirit of fear and distrust in each other. Please consider ditching that unsanitary muzzle. Do you replace it with a new one each time you touch it or remove it or wear it longer than a few hours? Part of basic rules of mask wearing pre-covid….

Yup
Reply to  Anonymous
December 26, 2020 10:58 pm

I constantly change my mask. NOT wearing a mask means others will fear and distrust you. For good reason. The virus is contagious. News flash.

Anonymous
Reply to  Yup
December 27, 2020 12:01 pm

Newsflash yourself. The virus being contagious does not prove the need, nor justify the forced use of masks… Because it’s simply shown to be a deceptive lie. And without any peer reviewed double blind studies to counter the many pre-covid years of established science that have always shown how useless a mask is for a virus

You are wrong
Reply to  Anonymous
December 28, 2020 10:08 am

Plain and simple. You think you’re a hero for fighting masks. Sad.

Anonymous
Reply to  You are wrong
December 29, 2020 5:43 am

I’m not fighting masks. I’m fighting the FORCED use of masks. You think it works and is needed for healthy people? Then go ahead and wear them. I really don’t. I should have the option not to. Enough of the I must wear a mask when not sick to protect you quackiness. It’s a lie.

"judging"
Reply to  Don't judge me!
December 25, 2020 2:36 pm

It’s not about judging, it”s about doing what we can to save suffering and lives..and,yes, there is the element of Chillul Hashem in not wearing one in public, since those around us are wearing masks. Also.. do we know how long antibodies last,etc. Please, let’s not add stress to an already stressful situation.
May you and all Klal Yisrael have a Good Shabbos, and may we enjoy Simchas!!

antibodies
Reply to  Don't judge me!
December 25, 2020 2:38 pm

No coronavirus has permanent antibodies. (The common cold, for example, is one type of coronavirus, Covid-19 is just a new type of coronavirus). We don’t know how long antibodies or immunity lasts–there have been definite cases of reinfection all over the world, although it is still unusual proven cases are happening in every community.Sorry, those are the facts It appears to be a common mistake that people think they have had it once so they are clear and cannot spread it to other people. Please ask the Gedalia Society for the details. The CDC and New York State are telling… Read more »

In fact, I will judge you
Reply to  Don't judge me!
December 25, 2020 3:09 pm

For possibly being harmful to others! You’re not worried about yourself fine, but have some respect for the people around you.

Anonymous
Reply to  Don't judge me!
December 25, 2020 3:33 pm

I agree with you. Some people think they are G-d and can control this virus. Do your part in washing hands and staying home when sick but otherwise I will be glad to see your smile! Ignore the panic people. You are not killing anyone. It’s absurd

People need to stay calm and use sechel
December 25, 2020 2:27 pm

Yes the virus can be life threatening in some cases Yes we are minimising big gatherings But no we cannot turn the world upside down and force rules that are disruptive and depressing for a virus that might actually be as dangerous as the flu It seems the corona virus has mutated and just like there are endless cold viruses there can be numerous corona viruses and none of these precautions or vaccines will actually help The number of virus germs spreading now is less intense so therefore less dangerous Relax and live life and respect those who are ready… Read more »

You clearly didn't lose someone to the virus...
Reply to  People need to stay calm and use sechel
December 25, 2020 3:55 pm

You clearly didn’t lose a close family member to the virus. “Relax”. So disrespectful. And so ignorant of the facts too. This is way more dangerous than the flu. How many people do you know that died of the flu? And how many from Covid? Where I live, everyone goes about life, but in masks, with fewer and much smaller gatherings. My kids wear masks all day in school. Uncomfortable but they’ll be fine. They wear masks to “play dates”. We all wear masks the whole time in shul. And very very few people here got Covid. With very little… Read more »

Anonymous
Reply to  You clearly didn't lose someone to the virus...
December 27, 2020 12:05 pm

Correlation is not causation. Very likely that you would still get the same result without suffocating your kids and subjecting them to that kind of child abuse. So unnecessary

My kid is fine thank you
Reply to  Anonymous
December 28, 2020 10:11 am

My kid wears a mask all day in school and on play dates. She is annoyed but will be okay and is proud that she is protecting her parents and the vulnerable. Tremendous chinuch opportunity. She sees people without masks and is horrified that they don’t seem to care about others.

Anonymous
Reply to  My kid is fine thank you
December 28, 2020 2:14 pm

Does she wear an effective mask against covid? Did you test her oxygen saturation with an oxymeter? If the weave is so fine that it let’s in sufficient air it is also letting in (and out) the virus, if she even has one. Ever thought of that? It’s the ultimate stupidity. Along with believing that somehow a mask won’t stop a virus from coming in but will stop it from going out. Does it have a special one way valve or smthg? And how about the unique belief that you are somehow able to kill someone with a virus that… Read more »

Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
December 28, 2020 2:41 pm

In addition, how about the 6 foot rule of social distancing? If someone smokes a cigarette 6ft away, do you smell it? Yes it reaches you, and what if you’re standing 6 ft behind them in a moving line. Won’t you end up in their cloud of second hand smoke as soon as you reach their old place in line? Why is this virus any different? And then consider all the super covid avoidance focused people running to stand in line for an extended period of time with other sick (likely infected w covid) people at the hint of a… Read more »

Masks are not foolproof
Reply to  Anonymous
December 29, 2020 3:48 am

But they have been repeatedly shown to be effective in fighting the virus. Like it or not. There are better ways to prevent the spread , and social distancing is one of the best! Also contact tracing.

Anonymous
Reply to  Anonymous
December 29, 2020 5:51 am

They stand in line to get tested in order to find out if they need to stay home… Well then STAY HOME to begin with. What are you doing out and about, endangering people’s lives with this super deadly contagion that you suspect you have? I guess you really don’t think it’s that deadly after all, right? I would never be waiting in line exposing others if I thought I had polio or Ebola?

Price worth Paying
December 25, 2020 2:44 pm

School and shul must go on, shiurim must go on.
Let’s not repeat the mistakes we made in March, keep everything open.
It is a worthy cause to die for.
If you are at risk or your loved ones are, do not worry, they will not die in vain.
Will all learn mishanoys for them.

Antisemite
Reply to  Price worth Paying
December 25, 2020 3:40 pm

How such words can come out of a Jew’s mouth is beyond me. Not asking to shut down supermarkets (which studies claim are the main spreader), not asking to shut down fressing places which abound in crown heights. But asking to shut down shuls and schools!

Hello communist Russia, where only Shuls, schools and Mikvahs were shuttered.

Glad you're being sarcastic...
Reply to  Price worth Paying
December 25, 2020 3:57 pm

Took a minute there. Sarcasm aside, Where I live, there are shiurim and shul but very few social gatherings. Kids wear masks in school and with others. All wear masks in shul. And no one in our community died from Covid. Very few ever had it. There is a way to keep things open and keep people safe.

Anonymous
Reply to  Price worth Paying
December 25, 2020 3:58 pm

Sorry no one needs to die from covid anymore! According to Dr Armstrong he saved thousands of elderly ill nursing home patients lives. He gave them hydroxychloriquine and zinc as prevention and they were all fine when exposed or contracted the virus. Check out Dr Simone Gold’s website and contact him for more info. https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/speakers/

To those who are wearing masks
December 25, 2020 4:36 pm

Thank you for making this world a safer place for everyone.

Anonymous
Reply to  To those who are wearing masks
December 27, 2020 12:10 pm

Fraud alert! You have been deceived. Your mask will do squat except keep your ego soaring. According to Dr. fauci on his first interview.

YAKNAHAZ
December 30, 2020 4:19 am

Take the vaccine

ALFRED E NEWMAN
December 30, 2020 4:20 am

We are still in a deadly pandemic
What’s not understood

THE LETZTER DOR
December 30, 2020 4:21 am

Hydroxy zinc vitamin c is a must

Anonymous
Reply to  THE LETZTER DOR
January 2, 2021 9:05 pm

Vitamine d super important. Check dr. Urso’s Twitter for data.

MRS PERL ARBOR
December 30, 2020 4:23 am

No masks, no entry to stores

Seichel
December 30, 2020 4:26 am

Yeshivos shuls must mandate masks as they are super spreaders

Relative Humidity and Wearing Masks Keeps Passages
December 31, 2020 1:26 am

😷💦💧🌬😷 Is part of the reason that masks work vs covid due to their humidification effect? Intriguing work from biophysicists @NIH (ETopol) for PDF: https://t.co/pVwvOUPNTP?amp=1 and this: https://twitter.com/VirusesImmunity/status/1320430656481120256 HUMIDITY Relative Humidity Resources As we approach the cold winter months in the Northern Hemisphere, I want to share these movies of mucociliary clearance (MCC) in the trachea of mice housed at 10% vs. 50% relative humidity (RH). Captured by @ericsongg  (1/n) This is MCC at 50% RH And here is MCC of mice kept at 10% RH For more, please read our original paper. MCC is a key mechanism of removal of inhaled… Read more »

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