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Court Strikes Down New York State Education Department Regulations

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Just me
March 23, 2023 11:10 pm

Can you please put it in simple English.
Most of us can’t understand the big words.
Ty

Me too.no comprendo
Reply to  Just me
March 23, 2023 11:32 pm

But I believe this is the good news we were davening for?. Can someone confirm please

The irony
Reply to  Just me
March 23, 2023 11:41 pm

The Irony

Bh .me too
Reply to  The irony
March 24, 2023 12:16 am

Well bh bh I’m in my seventies and I’m grateful Hashem provided me with a big mishpocho bh kah shluchim or mechanchim as well as businessmen although no limudei chol

Counter argument
Reply to  The irony
March 24, 2023 7:49 am

Is that same amount of public school kids can’t either so why force us to learn what they learn

What it means
Reply to  Just me
March 23, 2023 11:56 pm

Yeshivas can continue to omit english studies from curriculum without consequences from the state…. in other words kids can continue to graduate from yeshivas without basic skills needed to succeed outside the community

The Yeshiva system produces excellent students
Reply to  What it means
March 24, 2023 1:31 am

The majority of our kids are successful, intelligent, highly productive members of the community.
Those who aren’t wouldn’t have succeeded even had they learned English.

Are all the graduates of public school successful?

Don’t blame your laziness on the system.

Not true
Reply to  The Yeshiva system produces excellent students
March 24, 2023 12:15 pm

My son had a hard time in Yeshiva. The yeshiva did not translate things adequately and he had a hard time getting a chavrusah. The yeshiva also did not know how to discipline students.
Hope things are different now. Although he didn’t learn to read English until 5th grade, he did well later in secular studies.

Moshe
Reply to  Not true
March 27, 2023 5:49 pm

Stop blaming your failings on others

Freedom & Democracy vs Consequences from the State
Reply to  What it means
March 24, 2023 6:18 pm

“You wrote, ‘Yeshivas can continue to omit english [sic] studies… in other words, kids can continue to graduate without basic skills…’ This implies that state intervention is what can lead to students having a better chance of graduating with basic skills.   The community and its representatives who are fighting these regulations disagree with the premise that state regulators taking sides and enforcing internal community disagreements is a solution to improving Jewish education. In fact, it can be argued that the regulators and proponents of these regulations are lacking some basic education in history or the principles of democracy and… Read more »

I hope you understand the irony in this…
Reply to  Just me
March 24, 2023 12:24 am

…because it is kind of ironic

Troll
Reply to  I hope you understand the irony in this…
March 24, 2023 8:59 am

Anyone with half a brain can understand that the person who wrote this is just trolling. Their english is fine.

Abc
Reply to  Just me
March 24, 2023 4:26 pm

It just means I can’t put parents in jail for having their kids in a school which doesn’t teach secular studies.
It does not say that the government cannot regulate schools and shut them down.

Baruch Hashem
March 24, 2023 12:35 am

Baruch Hashem
This is big news

Wow!
March 24, 2023 1:03 am

Didan Netzach!! The judge is saying that they don’t have the authority to decide that schools need to follow one standard in order to be a school. Wow!

However
March 24, 2023 1:29 am

However it seems that they can technically force parents to prove that they are providing their children a substantially equivalent education. Which is definitely not a good thing.

Good
Reply to  However
March 24, 2023 12:18 pm

That means yeshivas will have to make sure their students understand what is being taught and that the Torah subjects taught are challenging and those who need extra help receive it.

good thing
Reply to  However
March 26, 2023 1:13 am

and why is it not good if parents are legally required to provide their children with a well rounded education?

Not as good as you might think
March 24, 2023 1:34 am

The court ruled in favor of the regulations almost entirely. It struck down only one provision: That a yeshiva that doesn’t meet the substantial equivalency rules can be shut down. Instead the court offered the option to parents to continue to send their kids to yeshiva but also address the substantial equivalency rules in other ways such as after-school homeschooling or tutoring in the required secular subjects. This is better than nothing, but it’s a long way from victory.

same
Reply to  Not as good as you might think
March 24, 2023 8:58 am

True, but the parents now have the option of deciding what to teach rather than an atheist deciding for them.

Malchus shel chesed
March 24, 2023 1:39 am

Bh we live in a country that has checks and balances. A gross government overreach can be rained in and overhauled. And yes, the US is a malchus shel chesed.
We need the right people in office, make sure you make your vote count!

Chasdei Hashem
March 24, 2023 7:51 am

May we continue to be victorious over the ‘maskilim’ of today.
Ps if you don’t like it, you certainly are welcome to put your kids in a different school. Please refrain from imposing your secular values on others.

Public School
March 24, 2023 9:03 am

I went to public school all my life and received a sub-par education. Many teachers weren’t even familiar with the topics and only taught to receive a paycheque. Throughout university I was told that my degree will have transferrable skills for the workforce. Most of that wasn’t true, but in yeshiva it definitely was. In yeshiva I learnt various languages, how to analyze texts, and strengthened my debate skills. The yeshiva system is by far greater than any educational system I’ve ever been through.

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