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6 Honest Questions Shidduch-Age Bochurim Have

Six honest questions shidduch-age bochurim are asking are addressed by psychologist Dr. Dovid Brownstein to help them gain clarity and confidence. Full Story

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What
August 23, 2025 9:54 pm

I’m pausing at this sentence: “having a career locked in before you begin dating is neither expected nor realistic.“
Why is that unrealistic? Women all find jobs before they start dating. Are they supposed to pay the bills?

Because
Reply to  What
August 23, 2025 10:31 pm

Bochrim don’t have a job. That’s reality.
Our job is to sit and learn (usually)
We come straight from yeshivas (most of us) .
What do you expect?????

Yes, it’s a tough transition
Reply to  Because
August 24, 2025 5:42 am

Yes, moving from Yeshiva life to finding a career – especially when you’ve had little to no secular education – is very very challenging. It is especially difficult if you are not the entrepreneurial type and want a job instead of running your own business. Nonetheless, it is a transition that needs to be made.

finding the correct balance
Reply to  Yes, it’s a tough transition
August 27, 2025 11:53 pm

I get both sides here. Of course, no one expects a bochur fresh out of yeshiva to have a career fully figured out before dating. Most of us are coming straight from years of learning, and thinking about jobs, income, and career paths in depth can feel really overwhelming, especially when your focus has been on Torah and personal growth. That said, it’s still important to have some sense of direction and to start thinking about the bigger picture. You don’t need everything planned perfectly, but reflecting on your strengths, interests, and potential ways to support a family shows maturity… Read more »

Career not job
Reply to  What
August 23, 2025 10:56 pm

Those are two different things entirely

Agree
Reply to  What
August 23, 2025 10:57 pm

Most ladies that I know of will not be happy to date an unemployed young man

Get a job
Reply to  What
August 23, 2025 11:03 pm

Agree! Why is a man dating to BUILD A FAMILY with no plan for how to support them?
Women have no problem supporting themselves.
Men are not babies – they must be providers.
Get a job

Having a job is not the same as having a career
Reply to  What
August 23, 2025 11:21 pm

To start with

Read carefully
Reply to  What
August 23, 2025 11:28 pm

Notice it says career and not job.
Girls who have a job that makes 20k a year is not a career.
To have a low paying job before one is married would not be considered a career.
A career is a steady good-enough-for a frum family job. To have that at 24 cannot be expected.

Hold on a second
Reply to  What
August 23, 2025 11:31 pm

They also have a different education system buchrim are supposed to stay in yeshiva unlike girls

100%
Reply to  What
August 24, 2025 11:09 am

I have told my sons that they need to have a job and be able to support a wife before even thinking about getting married. The most common reason for divorce is finances; don’t put stumbling blocks in young marriages. One can learn and earn simultaneously. Being frum is beyond expensive; we need to change our attitude about working if we want to continue the next generation of frum children. Tuition/finances are directly linked to the smaller family sizes.

Divorce?
Reply to  100%
August 26, 2025 1:32 pm

Finances cause stress to marriages but reasons for divorce are bigger than that. So tired of hearing that divorce is due to finances, from people who arent divorced

start at page 28
Reply to  What
August 25, 2025 10:36 am
The Commenter
August 23, 2025 10:42 pm

Thank you for your beautifully-written article. There is one question that I would like for you – or any of the commenters – to please clarify for me: I’m in my 30s and haven’t found the right one yet. I’ve dated all types of girls (quiet, lively, modest, bubbly, Chassidish, etc.) but have two particular types in mind that stand out. Both are opposites but I find them equally attractive as a true virtue in a Zivug. How do I decide which one works best for me? I’m sure it would depend on what they are, but I’d rather not… Read more »

A thought
Reply to  The Commenter
August 24, 2025 12:09 am

As a general rule you cant have both worlds: quiet yet bubbly. As a unofficial shatchan in my high 30s still single and doing my most to help out I always ask a girl or bochur this question: are you introvert or extrovert. Which one do you lean towards the most. (Please dont tell me in between, there is a side you lean towards the most) and whatever that side is find the same balance in your partner. Usually 2 people who have the same thrive the same and bring out the most in eachother. I’m not a believer at… Read more »

Nonsense
Reply to  A thought
August 24, 2025 9:19 am

People can date, like each other, marry each other, and live a happy life together – without taking into consideration if they are introverted or extroverted.

Please stop confusing people and hurting their shidduch prospects with this nonsense that someone who considers themselves an introvert should look for an introvert and vice versa. Just look around at people’s marriages and see how wrong this is.

I dont know why people are so sensitive lately
Reply to  Nonsense
August 24, 2025 3:30 pm

To the term introvert or extrovert. It definitely works for me to clarify to the people in shidduchim what are they actually looking for. All the girls that I dealt with told me they are tired of dating introvert kinds of guys. They want someone to match their energy or conversation and not to be the only ones talking on dates. You should perhaps do research because confusing and hurting others who want to get to the bottom line by feeding them nonsense that this difference is nonsense when its reality, is not nice. Marriages not working out could happen… Read more »

Please step back with a wider lense.
Reply to  A thought
August 24, 2025 10:39 am

Don’t limit yourself or others. I definitely know people who are both. Unless you hear that the person is extremely reserved or extremely out there, meet the person and then see if he or she leans too much to what you’re not comfortable with. If other things are compatible, see how you feel with the person beyond stereotypes.

The Commenter
Reply to  Please step back with a wider lense.
August 24, 2025 3:18 pm

Not sure if you read my comment properly, if at all. In my 10+ years of dating I was very open-minded and dated all kinds of girls (even when I didn’t think it would turn out alright), but still have this inner conflict regarding which sort of personality would suite me best. Since I dated all “types” and they have all gone well, it’s hard to determine the best one for me. I don’t need to “step back with a wider lense”; I’ve always been carrying the wider lense throughout my dating journey.

Not a public topic
Reply to  The Commenter
August 24, 2025 12:56 am

Speak to a dating coach that you feel confident sharing the details with and do a cheshvon hanefesh if it is yiddishkiet related. Hatzlacha

Similar circumstances
Reply to  The Commenter
August 24, 2025 5:26 am

Hi, Thank you for your comment I really appreciate you asking this question I wasn’t comfortable myself asking this but now that you asked it I find myself in a similar situation there’s so many different types out there and it’s hard to choose one.

Just a thought
Reply to  The Commenter
August 24, 2025 9:51 am

Just a thought, the fact that you are conflicted about what you are looking for in a spouse may be an obstacle in your search. Whatever it is, you should probably find someone to discuss it with in more detail. (Mashpia, dating coach, trusted friend… (Not the col comment section))

You're not marrying a "type"
Reply to  The Commenter
August 24, 2025 10:21 am

You’re marrying a person.

Don’t box yourself in to thinking that you must marry a specific type, and don’t waste brain cells trying to fit your future partner into a specific box that you decided you need.

Open yourself up to possibilities

The Commenter
Reply to  You're not marrying a "type"
August 24, 2025 3:09 pm

It has nothing to do with a type. It’s just that I can see myself in two different scenarios: one is with a quieter girl in a modest setting, and one with a livelier girl in a more social setting. Personally, I can see myself in both cases but have a difficulty in deciding which works best for me for different reasons. It has nothing to do with wasting brain cells or being close-minded (which is rude to tell someone who’s been desperately trying to find his match for 10+ years and was open-minded to every potential match available), it’s… Read more »

what is
Reply to  The Commenter
August 25, 2025 10:39 am

ur name

Good question
Reply to  The Commenter
August 24, 2025 12:20 pm

This is a good question, but I think it’s a too black and white way of thinking. People are much more complex than these few categories, and there is no “made to order person factory” where you can request exactly the traits you think you want. It’s more important to think of what are your shared values, ways of viewing life in terms of religious levels, money, how to treat others, big goals and aspirations, what do you admire and respect in a person, are there certain characteristics that really bother you or attract you in a person, or that… Read more »

From the author
Reply to  The Commenter
August 24, 2025 1:01 pm

Questions like this are very personal and specific to the individual. If you feel comfortable, your welcome to reach out to me at [email protected] and I’d be happy to share my thoughts on your situation.

My own input
August 23, 2025 10:42 pm

#4 I can’t stress that enough. If you are not ready to date – DONT! Tell your parents/family I’m not ready. I’m figuring myself out. I dont want to walk into marriage without knowing or being who I am which I’m still trying to figure it out since in yeshiva it’s not done. So many girls tell me as a unofficial shadchan “why is he not ‘in the date’s? His head is elsewhere “. So many boys I call and ask are you ready to date, they say yes but they spend their time to ghost and then complain that… Read more »

ask if she's going to post pictures of her babies
August 23, 2025 11:13 pm

and kids on the internet. If she says she would, don’t marry her.

nice place to ask
Reply to  ask if she's going to post pictures of her babies
August 23, 2025 11:55 pm

why’s that? because you don’t like that? ok. she’s not for you. there may be men who have no problem with that. this is about compatibility not your standards.

thought it was obvious
Reply to  nice place to ask
August 24, 2025 11:50 am

because it’s not tzinus or safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And girls who do this don’t deserve a husband.

#3
August 23, 2025 11:40 pm

Not spoken about enough… needs a lot more attention, confirmation that everyone struggles, and can be fixed… Don’t think you’re the only one and therefore you can’t date… there is a solution…

Great!
Reply to  #3
August 24, 2025 12:07 am

So what is the solution?

Agree, thanks, with a tweak;
Reply to  #3
August 24, 2025 7:11 am

Agree that everyone struggles. That confirmation is important. Thanks! Just want to say l: one doesn’t have to aim for being “fixed”— though i understand that can be a short way of saying what is possible: growing and improving and getting ready to meet the other half of one’s soul, accepting and compassionate to her, appreciative, understanding that the only one in your marriage who is perfect is G-d.

There is a solution
Reply to  #3
August 24, 2025 1:32 pm

There is Guard your eyes, a great organization that helps.
And if someone has a real addiction, not just a bad habit, there are 12 step groups out there, they really help

Habit not addiction
Reply to  There is a solution
August 24, 2025 7:48 pm

Addictions obviously is a different story… Some people have that bad habit from time to time… even when there is a filter… Yet they lose themself in the thought of I will never be able to live happily with a woman… which is not true as long as you can meet the problem head on and take steps in the right direction… this is a struggle every man naturally faces… just some are too ashamed to admit…

#6 - excellent point
August 24, 2025 5:49 am

I once told my father that if getting married meant being married to someone like my mother – whom my father has been married to b”H for 50+ years – I’d rather not be married. I looked for someone very different than my mother, and got married to the wrong person. With a lot of pain, b”H that ended. B”H I then found Mrs. Perfect and have been happily married for many, many years, but be careful not to fall into that trap.

Your first marriage didn’t work
Reply to  #6 - excellent point
August 24, 2025 9:37 am

though typically we don’ know why, from your comment we do know of the major destructive factor that you obviously bypassed ahavas yisrael and kvud av v eim if you could have said such a thing. You share about it as if it’s acceptable. Even if someone wasn’t from a frum or any faith based family background, it’s so fundamentally negative, disrespectful, self absorbed and mean. Many blessings to your first wife to meet or to have met and be happy with someone with a mature, healthy attitude for zivug sheini. And prayers for your current wife and any children… Read more »

You don’t know why
Reply to  Your first marriage didn’t work
August 24, 2025 3:05 pm

You don’t know why and really don’t have a clue. Your condescending comment shows a real lack of ahavas Yisroel and empathy.
My first wife was diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a psychopath, and she has not remarried.
I wish you a כתיבה וחתימה טובה, לשנה טובה ומתוקה

Mrs Perfect ?
Reply to  #6 - excellent point
August 24, 2025 10:50 am

And how similar is she to your mother, lol?

Similar to my mother
Reply to  Mrs Perfect ?
August 24, 2025 3:03 pm

Not much

There's nothing wrong with you!
August 24, 2025 6:08 am

Single girl here. Number five bothers me slightly because it puts a lot of blame/responsibility on the guy. The author goes through a list of things you can do to make sure a girl doesn’t reject you after a few dates. But the last line is the most important line-“Remember: sometimes a shidduch simply isn’t the right match, and that’s okay.”
That’s the main thing to remember. It’s not necessarily because you messed up. Sometimes she’s just not that into you and that’s okay. You’ll find someone who is!

Jobs
August 24, 2025 10:46 am

The topic of jobs truly shocks me. How our worlds has become to forgiving!! How can men be excused for not having a job and financial plan ready?! These days you can look at girls getting their degrees and running business!! Really getting ambitious. I commend all the girls these days. How ever, I think boys have to step up to the plate ( at least get a job?!) and start working!! How should you expect girls to go out with guys that don’t have a job… and if they do it’s only a few hours of the day?! Men… Read more »

Flatbush Yid
August 24, 2025 12:09 pm

For those who seem to have a problem with internet sites that hurt their spirituality. There is a simple answer. Get it filtered at TAG. I did that and now if my kids need the phone for anything I feel safe. As far as jobs or careers. Usually young people are not millionaires yet. So dont chew yourselves up. Every person has a Divine gift of what type of field they feel cut out to enter. A Plumber can make far more money than a doctor. You have to see which field you are cut out to do. I watch… Read more »

Just saying...
August 24, 2025 8:47 pm

“Rabbi Yehuda says: Any father who does not teach his son a trade teaches him banditry [listut]. The Gemara expresses surprise at this statement: Can it enter your mind that he actually teaches him banditry? Rather, the baraita means that it is as though he teaches him banditry. Since the son has no profession with which to support himself, he is likely to turn to theft for a livelihood. This baraita accords with Rav Yehuda’s interpretation of the mishna.”

System is broken
August 24, 2025 10:34 pm

Way too many young men and women looking for their soul mate. Going through the protocols and not getting the type of attention from shadchanim needed to make a match. Not blaming, shadchanim. They are overwhelmed and don’t really know most of the people beyond a short interview and a resume. They don’t have time to be invested. We need a solution. Maybe even “out of the box” ideas such as dating last year of school with teachers from boys and girl schools becoming “shadchanim”. They know their students. They can guide them.

The issue I see
August 25, 2025 10:51 am

It’s important to recognize that empowerment, while valuable, can sometimes have unintended consequences. Just like when men move away from traditional masculinity and provider roles, it shifts the balance in relationships and society. When men don’t step up, women often feel the need to take on both roles. But when women take on those traditionally masculine roles, men can feel less motivated to embrace their own masculinity, since there’s no space for it. It becomes a cycle — a double-edged sword. True balance comes when both men and women are encouraged to embrace their strengths in complementary ways, rather than… Read more »

the most critical thing,,,,,,
August 25, 2025 2:22 pm

for every bauchur to be his true Honest sincere best self -only! when going out on a shidduch. he must communicate to the girl who n what he reallly is!!! by describing whats most important to him -what he likes ,enjoys,dislikes, what he fears,what funny to him ,what he is furriuos about,his family -his freinds -his favorite teachers -his fovorite music- food`from bread to meat an fish soup and drink,no les what he cannot tolerate ! what study in religous n secular he appreciates most! his skills -n his weaknesses etc etc etc from most important to least he should… Read more »

Dating coach here
August 26, 2025 1:56 am

People are so fixated on getting on dates and have no idea why
Personally i have seen great marriages fall apart and horrible ones stay together
Marriage is between two people who make it work thats it
Do you set up your life and hashem will do what he needs to do

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