The summer is winding down and everyone will soon be returning to life as usual (only to be briefly interrupted by Tishrei in a few short weeks). With this comes a new cohort of bochurim and young ladies preparing to start their journey in shidduchim. This stage can be met with excitement, anxiety, or anything in between. With so much focus on the challenges young women face in shidduchim, the struggles bochurim have are often overlooked.
One thing is for certain: every bochur has thoughts, feelings, and opinions about this new chapter. Most understand the significance of beginning shidduchim and realize that the decisions made during this time will likely shape the course of the rest of their lives. Many carry big, important questions about themselves and about the process. While some bochurim are fortunate to have parents, mashpiim, and friends in whom to confide, many others are confronted with insecurity, confusion, shame, and fear.
To help bochurim think through and begin to resolve some of their concerns, I want to share a selection of the many questions I am often asked, along with my thoughts on each one. My hope is that by presenting these questions and responses, more bochurim will find support and clarity as they navigate shidduchim — whether they are just starting out or have already been dating for some time.
1. I am set up to go out on my very first date, but every time I think about it, I start to feel very anxious. How should I deal with my anxieties?
Welcome to this brand new stage of life. If you’re like most bochurim, you haven’t had much preparation for the practical realities of dating, so no wonder you’re anxious! Anxiety is a G-d-given signal that something is important and consequential.
Your task is to sit with the anxiety and explore it. What about dating worries you? Is it that you might behave awkwardly with a complete stranger (who is a female no less!)? Being caught off guard? Having to share something personal? All of these are legitimate concerns. But remember: you don’t need to be prepared for all possibilities before your first date. The purpose of a first date is really just to answer one question: Can I spend a few hours with this person and enjoy her company as we break the ice?
If even that feels overwhelming, you can call it out honestly. For example, you can say, “This is new to me and I sometimes get nervous in new situations, but I’m looking forward to getting to know you.” Just acknowledging the reality of how you feel in the situation can go a long way toward putting your nerves at ease.
2. Do I need to know what I will do for a living before I start dating?
In secular culture, financial security is often valued above family life. In the frum community, family life usually takes precedence. That does not mean a financial plan isn’t important — it certainly is — but having a career locked in before you begin dating is neither expected nor realistic.
What matters most is having direction. Do you know your skills, strengths, and passions? Have you begun to explore how to use them productively? Are you ready to make the commitment and accept the responsibility of supporting your family? When you date, let these ideas be part of your conversations. As things become more serious, discuss them more openly and see whether you share the same values. The right match will respect your career path and stand beside you with support and encouragement.
3. I have seen things on the internet that I know I shouldn’t have. Is there hope for me to build a true connection in marriage?
This is a sensitive question, one that’s easy to look past. But ignoring it won’t make it go away. The unfortunate reality is that most men today have been exposed to harmful material online.
The first thing to know is that you are not alone. Many other bochurim are struggling with the same issues and there are rabbonim, mashpiim, and therapists who can compassionately help you. What matters more than the degree of exposure is how it has affected you. If you find yourself unable to control your technology use and what material you consume, that is a larger challenge. If you’ve taken steps to guard yourself and move forward, you are already on a healthier path.
Having someone you trust to confide in about your specific challenge is critical. With the right support, you absolutely can build and sustain a true, long-lasting connection with your future wife.
4. I’m actively working on myself so I can be ready to date, but I’m feeling pressure to begin and not wait. What should I do?
It’s admirable and commendable that you are investing time and energy into your growth before dating. Reflecting on yourself and committing to taking important steps toward bettering yourself as a man and a frum, chassidishe bochur will surely pay off as you go forward in life. Too often, young men skip this step or assume they can “figure it out on the way.”
The world we live in today has so many pressures, distractions, and challenges. This reality demands that a bochur be very intentional in his approach to shidduchim. Each individual has his own issues to address; some larger and some smaller. If you know you need time, take it. But don’t confuse readiness with perfection because the latter is neither achievable nor the ideal. Identify the areas you need to work on, set a plan, and give yourself a realistic timeframe.
Talk to your parents about where you are holding. Let them know that you are working on yourself to be able to enter shidduchim with the correct mindset.
5. I have gone out with a few young ladies whom I liked, but after a few dates they didn’t want to continue. Am I doing something wrong?
Nevertheless, there are ways that the nicest, most suitable potential husbands can show up to a date that can result in a young lady looking elsewhere. Make sure you plan the dates well. Know where you are going and have some familiarity with the spot (looking at pictures online or asking friends who have been there may be enough). Be present; the young lady who is sitting across from you is there to get to know you. Your phone should be silenced and out of sight. Get curious about her, show interest. If you’re going out for a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th time, reflect beforehand on what you would like to delve deeper into about both yourself and her. Be decisive, respectful, and confident.
This is a painful situation, especially when little or no feedback is given or when the explanation seems too diplomatic or vague. While rejection is rarely easy, it doesn’t automatically mean you are doing something “wrong.”
That said, there are ways to ensure you show up well: plan dates thoughtfully, be fully present, silence and put away your phone, and show genuine curiosity about the other person. Reflect on what more you’d like to share about yourself and what you’d like to learn about her as dating moves forward. Be confident and decisive, and always be respectful. Remember: sometimes a shidduch simply isn’t the right match, and that’s okay.
6. I’m hesitant to get married because I’ve seen so much dysfunction in marriages around me. What’s your advice?
This is an honest and important question. Witnessing dysfunction — whether neglect, poor communication, or abuse — can be painful and leave deep doubts.
What your experiences might have hidden from you is how much beauty, joy, and growth a healthy marriage can bring. Your awareness of what doesn’t work can be an asset if it pushes you to learn what does. Spend time with families who function well. Observe, ask questions, and read about healthy relationships. Seek mentors who can model what it means to be a healthy husband. Your past experiences do not define your future.
Marriage, when approached with care and commitment, can be a source of brachah, fulfillment, and profound growth.
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The journey of shidduchim has its challenges — sometimes practical, sometimes deeply personal. Each question is an opportunity for growth, reflection, and clarity. No bochur should navigate this path without guidance. With mashpiim, rabbonim, therapists, and trusted family and friends, every young man deserves the support he needs.
Rabbi Dr. Dovid Brownstein is a licensed psychologist and the facilitator of the Beyond Breadwinning workshops, designed to help bochurim in shidduchim or engaged prepare for marriage with confidence and clarity. For more information about upcoming workshops, visit beyondbreadwinning.com. You can reach Dr. Brownstein by email at [email protected].
I’m pausing at this sentence: “having a career locked in before you begin dating is neither expected nor realistic.“
Why is that unrealistic? Women all find jobs before they start dating. Are they supposed to pay the bills?
Bochrim don’t have a job. That’s reality.
Our job is to sit and learn (usually)
We come straight from yeshivas (most of us) .
What do you expect?????
Yes, moving from Yeshiva life to finding a career – especially when you’ve had little to no secular education – is very very challenging. It is especially difficult if you are not the entrepreneurial type and want a job instead of running your own business. Nonetheless, it is a transition that needs to be made.
I get both sides here. Of course, no one expects a bochur fresh out of yeshiva to have a career fully figured out before dating. Most of us are coming straight from years of learning, and thinking about jobs, income, and career paths in depth can feel really overwhelming, especially when your focus has been on Torah and personal growth. That said, it’s still important to have some sense of direction and to start thinking about the bigger picture. You don’t need everything planned perfectly, but reflecting on your strengths, interests, and potential ways to support a family shows maturity… Read more »
Those are two different things entirely
Most ladies that I know of will not be happy to date an unemployed young man
Agree! Why is a man dating to BUILD A FAMILY with no plan for how to support them?
Women have no problem supporting themselves.
Men are not babies – they must be providers.
Get a job
To start with
Notice it says career and not job.
Girls who have a job that makes 20k a year is not a career.
To have a low paying job before one is married would not be considered a career.
A career is a steady good-enough-for a frum family job. To have that at 24 cannot be expected.
They also have a different education system buchrim are supposed to stay in yeshiva unlike girls
I have told my sons that they need to have a job and be able to support a wife before even thinking about getting married. The most common reason for divorce is finances; don’t put stumbling blocks in young marriages. One can learn and earn simultaneously. Being frum is beyond expensive; we need to change our attitude about working if we want to continue the next generation of frum children. Tuition/finances are directly linked to the smaller family sizes.
Finances cause stress to marriages but reasons for divorce are bigger than that. So tired of hearing that divorce is due to finances, from people who arent divorced
https://chafetzchayim.org/wp-content/single/SeferGederOlam_2020-07-01_03-36-49/SeferGederOlam_2020-07-01_03-36-49.html
read this before selecting a wife.
Thank you for your beautifully-written article. There is one question that I would like for you – or any of the commenters – to please clarify for me: I’m in my 30s and haven’t found the right one yet. I’ve dated all types of girls (quiet, lively, modest, bubbly, Chassidish, etc.) but have two particular types in mind that stand out. Both are opposites but I find them equally attractive as a true virtue in a Zivug. How do I decide which one works best for me? I’m sure it would depend on what they are, but I’d rather not… Read more »
As a general rule you cant have both worlds: quiet yet bubbly. As a unofficial shatchan in my high 30s still single and doing my most to help out I always ask a girl or bochur this question: are you introvert or extrovert. Which one do you lean towards the most. (Please dont tell me in between, there is a side you lean towards the most) and whatever that side is find the same balance in your partner. Usually 2 people who have the same thrive the same and bring out the most in eachother. I’m not a believer at… Read more »
People can date, like each other, marry each other, and live a happy life together – without taking into consideration if they are introverted or extroverted.
Please stop confusing people and hurting their shidduch prospects with this nonsense that someone who considers themselves an introvert should look for an introvert and vice versa. Just look around at people’s marriages and see how wrong this is.
To the term introvert or extrovert. It definitely works for me to clarify to the people in shidduchim what are they actually looking for. All the girls that I dealt with told me they are tired of dating introvert kinds of guys. They want someone to match their energy or conversation and not to be the only ones talking on dates. You should perhaps do research because confusing and hurting others who want to get to the bottom line by feeding them nonsense that this difference is nonsense when its reality, is not nice. Marriages not working out could happen… Read more »
Don’t limit yourself or others. I definitely know people who are both. Unless you hear that the person is extremely reserved or extremely out there, meet the person and then see if he or she leans too much to what you’re not comfortable with. If other things are compatible, see how you feel with the person beyond stereotypes.
Not sure if you read my comment properly, if at all. In my 10+ years of dating I was very open-minded and dated all kinds of girls (even when I didn’t think it would turn out alright), but still have this inner conflict regarding which sort of personality would suite me best. Since I dated all “types” and they have all gone well, it’s hard to determine the best one for me. I don’t need to “step back with a wider lense”; I’ve always been carrying the wider lense throughout my dating journey.
Speak to a dating coach that you feel confident sharing the details with and do a cheshvon hanefesh if it is yiddishkiet related. Hatzlacha
Hi, Thank you for your comment I really appreciate you asking this question I wasn’t comfortable myself asking this but now that you asked it I find myself in a similar situation there’s so many different types out there and it’s hard to choose one.
Just a thought, the fact that you are conflicted about what you are looking for in a spouse may be an obstacle in your search. Whatever it is, you should probably find someone to discuss it with in more detail. (Mashpia, dating coach, trusted friend… (Not the col comment section))
You’re marrying a person.
Don’t box yourself in to thinking that you must marry a specific type, and don’t waste brain cells trying to fit your future partner into a specific box that you decided you need.
Open yourself up to possibilities
It has nothing to do with a type. It’s just that I can see myself in two different scenarios: one is with a quieter girl in a modest setting, and one with a livelier girl in a more social setting. Personally, I can see myself in both cases but have a difficulty in deciding which works best for me for different reasons. It has nothing to do with wasting brain cells or being close-minded (which is rude to tell someone who’s been desperately trying to find his match for 10+ years and was open-minded to every potential match available), it’s… Read more »
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This is a good question, but I think it’s a too black and white way of thinking. People are much more complex than these few categories, and there is no “made to order person factory” where you can request exactly the traits you think you want. It’s more important to think of what are your shared values, ways of viewing life in terms of religious levels, money, how to treat others, big goals and aspirations, what do you admire and respect in a person, are there certain characteristics that really bother you or attract you in a person, or that… Read more »
Questions like this are very personal and specific to the individual. If you feel comfortable, your welcome to reach out to me at [email protected] and I’d be happy to share my thoughts on your situation.
#4 I can’t stress that enough. If you are not ready to date – DONT! Tell your parents/family I’m not ready. I’m figuring myself out. I dont want to walk into marriage without knowing or being who I am which I’m still trying to figure it out since in yeshiva it’s not done. So many girls tell me as a unofficial shadchan “why is he not ‘in the date’s? His head is elsewhere “. So many boys I call and ask are you ready to date, they say yes but they spend their time to ghost and then complain that… Read more »
and kids on the internet. If she says she would, don’t marry her.
why’s that? because you don’t like that? ok. she’s not for you. there may be men who have no problem with that. this is about compatibility not your standards.
because it’s not tzinus or safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And girls who do this don’t deserve a husband.
Not spoken about enough… needs a lot more attention, confirmation that everyone struggles, and can be fixed… Don’t think you’re the only one and therefore you can’t date… there is a solution…
So what is the solution?
Agree that everyone struggles. That confirmation is important. Thanks! Just want to say l: one doesn’t have to aim for being “fixed”— though i understand that can be a short way of saying what is possible: growing and improving and getting ready to meet the other half of one’s soul, accepting and compassionate to her, appreciative, understanding that the only one in your marriage who is perfect is G-d.
There is Guard your eyes, a great organization that helps.
And if someone has a real addiction, not just a bad habit, there are 12 step groups out there, they really help
Addictions obviously is a different story… Some people have that bad habit from time to time… even when there is a filter… Yet they lose themself in the thought of I will never be able to live happily with a woman… which is not true as long as you can meet the problem head on and take steps in the right direction… this is a struggle every man naturally faces… just some are too ashamed to admit…
I once told my father that if getting married meant being married to someone like my mother – whom my father has been married to b”H for 50+ years – I’d rather not be married. I looked for someone very different than my mother, and got married to the wrong person. With a lot of pain, b”H that ended. B”H I then found Mrs. Perfect and have been happily married for many, many years, but be careful not to fall into that trap.
though typically we don’ know why, from your comment we do know of the major destructive factor that you obviously bypassed ahavas yisrael and kvud av v eim if you could have said such a thing. You share about it as if it’s acceptable. Even if someone wasn’t from a frum or any faith based family background, it’s so fundamentally negative, disrespectful, self absorbed and mean. Many blessings to your first wife to meet or to have met and be happy with someone with a mature, healthy attitude for zivug sheini. And prayers for your current wife and any children… Read more »
You don’t know why and really don’t have a clue. Your condescending comment shows a real lack of ahavas Yisroel and empathy.
My first wife was diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a psychopath, and she has not remarried.
I wish you a כתיבה וחתימה טובה, לשנה טובה ומתוקה
And how similar is she to your mother, lol?
Not much
Single girl here. Number five bothers me slightly because it puts a lot of blame/responsibility on the guy. The author goes through a list of things you can do to make sure a girl doesn’t reject you after a few dates. But the last line is the most important line-“Remember: sometimes a shidduch simply isn’t the right match, and that’s okay.”
That’s the main thing to remember. It’s not necessarily because you messed up. Sometimes she’s just not that into you and that’s okay. You’ll find someone who is!
The topic of jobs truly shocks me. How our worlds has become to forgiving!! How can men be excused for not having a job and financial plan ready?! These days you can look at girls getting their degrees and running business!! Really getting ambitious. I commend all the girls these days. How ever, I think boys have to step up to the plate ( at least get a job?!) and start working!! How should you expect girls to go out with guys that don’t have a job… and if they do it’s only a few hours of the day?! Men… Read more »
For those who seem to have a problem with internet sites that hurt their spirituality. There is a simple answer. Get it filtered at TAG. I did that and now if my kids need the phone for anything I feel safe. As far as jobs or careers. Usually young people are not millionaires yet. So dont chew yourselves up. Every person has a Divine gift of what type of field they feel cut out to enter. A Plumber can make far more money than a doctor. You have to see which field you are cut out to do. I watch… Read more »
“Rabbi Yehuda says: Any father who does not teach his son a trade teaches him banditry [listut]. The Gemara expresses surprise at this statement: Can it enter your mind that he actually teaches him banditry? Rather, the baraita means that it is as though he teaches him banditry. Since the son has no profession with which to support himself, he is likely to turn to theft for a livelihood. This baraita accords with Rav Yehuda’s interpretation of the mishna.”
Way too many young men and women looking for their soul mate. Going through the protocols and not getting the type of attention from shadchanim needed to make a match. Not blaming, shadchanim. They are overwhelmed and don’t really know most of the people beyond a short interview and a resume. They don’t have time to be invested. We need a solution. Maybe even “out of the box” ideas such as dating last year of school with teachers from boys and girl schools becoming “shadchanim”. They know their students. They can guide them.
It’s important to recognize that empowerment, while valuable, can sometimes have unintended consequences. Just like when men move away from traditional masculinity and provider roles, it shifts the balance in relationships and society. When men don’t step up, women often feel the need to take on both roles. But when women take on those traditionally masculine roles, men can feel less motivated to embrace their own masculinity, since there’s no space for it. It becomes a cycle — a double-edged sword. True balance comes when both men and women are encouraged to embrace their strengths in complementary ways, rather than… Read more »
for every bauchur to be his true Honest sincere best self -only! when going out on a shidduch. he must communicate to the girl who n what he reallly is!!! by describing whats most important to him -what he likes ,enjoys,dislikes, what he fears,what funny to him ,what he is furriuos about,his family -his freinds -his favorite teachers -his fovorite music- food`from bread to meat an fish soup and drink,no les what he cannot tolerate ! what study in religous n secular he appreciates most! his skills -n his weaknesses etc etc etc from most important to least he should… Read more »
People are so fixated on getting on dates and have no idea why
Personally i have seen great marriages fall apart and horrible ones stay together
Marriage is between two people who make it work thats it
Do you set up your life and hashem will do what he needs to do