By Devora Krasnianski for COLlive
This is the second Pesach that Shneur and Rochel are making at home. For the first years of their marriage, they alternated between her parents and his parents. While her parents’ level of chumros were not quite the way her was used to, out of respect to his in-laws, he didn’t say anything and tried his best to keep to his own chumros.
Last year, Rochel prepared food the way she was used to, using family recipes. For this year, Shneur wants to bring his family to the standards that he grew up with, and perhaps add a few more chumros.
Similar story with a slight variation:
Mendy is learning about minhagim and chumros of Pesach. He really wants to keep Pesach at that level starting this year. His wife Leah is not quite as enthralled as he is, as it entails much more work than she feels ready for.
Both Shneur and Mendy have spent some time going through their own thought-process of studying and reviewing the chumros and minhagim that they now want to incorporate into their family’s Pesach.
Rochel and Leah have not been on that journey. Understandably, they are on a different timetable of bringing on more chumros than their spouse; or, they may not be interested at all.
Most likely, the desired change will be met with some resistance on their part. Particularly, if the chumros are more related to the domains of the spouse not in favor of the changes, the resistance will be stronger. Some examples might be in areas of preparing meals, trips on Chol Hamoed, working on Chol Hamoed, etc.
Shalom Bayis, as a direct mitzvah from the Torah is paramount. Chumros and minhagim are just that – chumros and minhagim (stringencies and customs). If one spouse is not quite ready to take on the chumros, the Shalom Bayis should not be jeopardized. How one introduces these new ideas can make all the difference. And even then, the desired chumros just may not happen in their home. One absolutely should not demand, or even expect, a total overhaul.
As Rabbi Yosef Heller said in a speech, “In Seforim it is written, that the same way excessive measures are taken in eliminating all chometz (each with his own chumros), so too all means of removing behaviors of anger, conflict, and opposition must be employed.
“Just like chometz, these are forbidden, even in the slightest form. … One should not keep hiddurim at the family’s expense, destroying the atmosphere at home or ruining the enjoyment of Yom Tov. ”
How each spouse asks for, or responds to, a requested change can say a lot about their respect for each other. Ideally, there is a mutual respect and appreciation of the other, and such topics are explained and discussed. Concerns, insights and alternatives are explored. Commands, demands, nagging, forcing, threatening are signs of dysfunction or even controlling attitudes and behaviors.
In the context of a respectful relationship, one might ask “I hope you can do this for me” or “This is important to me. I know you are not keen on it. Can we do it anyway, even if it is a reluctant ‘yes’? I will do my best to make it as easy as possible.” “I have been thinking about this a lot recently. I feel that for our family’s spiritual growth, this might be something we ought to consider.” And an appropriate response might be: “Interesting, please help me understand your journey and how you got to this point.”
1. Humor and positivity.
Focus on the positive; don’t criticize or belittle. “What we were doing until now is wonderful, I am hoping that we can up it a little. I know it may not be easy and it will probably be a bit harder, but maybe we can have fun with it.” Just get the conversation started. Don’t expect or demand agreement when the idea is first introduced.
2. Timing is crucial.
The mood has to be right. And there has to be adequate time to make adjustments if the change is agreed upon. New recipes have to be procured; new utensils might have to be bought.
3. Show your commitment.
Walk the talk. If it is new recipes with less ingredients or new ways of washing the dishes, be prepared to actually do the work. You might take on the chumra only for yourself without imposing on others. That is, you might cook one loaf of gefilte fish without sugar, or make a potato kugel with schmaltz instead of oil. Or use your own set of plates and cutlery, and wash them separately.
When others observe your genuine desire to really bring this into your home, they will likely (possibly) support you as a sign of respect. “This is really important to me. I will do it, so you don’t have to. But I do wish we can do it together.”
4. Remove obstacles.
Buy the related gadgets or cookbooks that might make the work easier. Caveat: Do not buy the gadgets and expect that now that it is somewhat easier, you can just demand that the change be incorporated into your home; that is manipulative.
5. One change at a time.
Expect slow change to make the transition easier. One chumra at a time. If all goes well, perhaps you can discuss together about bringing on another chumra.
Your marriage, your family, and your family’s enjoyment and appreciation of Yom Tov are most important. Adding chumras should only increase that enjoyment and appreciation and never diminish it.
As if there aren’t enough chumrot already probably leading to even more contention around Seder tables – and you want to ‘quietly’ encourage even more!?
Every case and every Chumro must be judged on its own independent basis.
I was responding however to the sweeping statements, which while being in tandem with current liberal understanding, is not exactly a clear Torah approach to things.
Maning i was taking issue with the statement.
In regards to your question, the answer can only be answered in a case by case basis.
You should know the following.
1.
family minhogim hold a place in Halocho.
2.
a woman is obligated to accept her husbands Minhogim when she agrees to marry him.
In your opinion what’s more important minhog or shalom bayis?
There’s an entire community of disinfranchised youth out there who have been turned off with the stringencies of chumro who rather not celebrate since they only have bad memories.
Maybe leniency is called for when one rather keep pesach according to ONLY Halacha? Rather then making it harder to stay in the community let’s accept that not all chumros are easy or healthy for all.
It may be right for you but everyone
You should know the following.
1.
family minhogim hold a place in Halocho.
2.
a woman is obligated to accept her husbands Minhogim when she agrees to marry him.
find a rav, when things are challenging we follow our Rabbani.
When I first got married I took on all of my husbands chumros and a made literally everything from scratch! I did this for 5 years and was miserable, I started to dread pesach and I used to love it pre-marriage because of all the family time. However since my family was more lenient we could never go home for Pesach. My husbands family was beyond stringent and their children’s took on even more chumros that none of them would eat at each others houses for pesach, so we were always on our own. Eventually I finally got comfortable enough… Read more »
Incorrect assumption. Issues were related to Pesach and Pesach food preparation.
I disagree with the author’s notion that it should be “discussed together” to add chumros. If she didn’t grow up with a chumra, leave her alone. Don’t discuss anything. It’s a chumra, not a halacha.
I still think my idea is best . its called being generous and not being controlling! why should my future son in law lessen his chumros because i can’t be bothered with shmultz? my grandchildren will be with me sukkos remember ?? they will have another set of grandparents who will want to enjoy them too… so why not let them go where they are fully comfortable and besides what stops my husband and i from joining them in their home for pesach?! can’t wait for all my kids to marry ppl who still use shmultz so my husband and… Read more »
If i could guess, there were other issues in the relationship besides the adding of chumros. The author wrote to discuss together and take it on as a family. Not to impose to guilt the other into ‘doing it to make the other one happy’.
I would faster suggest using plastic plates (there are quite nice ones available) than having a separate set of dishes for one spouse. Imagine the reaction if the less stringent mistakenly used the wrong set of dishes…..
Otherwise, compromise and respect is always a great idea!
good yom tov
What chumros are there in connection with Chol Ha’Moed trips and working on Chol Ha’Moed?
As far as I know, there are halachos about Chol Ha’Moed such as you must wear bigdei Yom Tov and work-melacha is greatly restricted.
So if you can’t wear bigdei Yom Tov while paintballing, then paintpalling is not a Chol Ha’Moed activity. Ditto for horseback riding, biking and amusement parks.
Pirkei Avos 3:11 “Rabbi Elazar of Modi’in would say: One who … degrades the Festivals … although he may possess Torah knowledge and good deeds, he has no share in the World to Come.”
My apologies to the author, but I respectfully disagree.
When it comes to food and food preparation, the husband should follow the customs of the wife — end of story.
A man should never introduce new chumros upon his wife. Even if his wife agrees in the beginning in order to make him happy, it will eventually lead to resentment.
I say this as a man who acted foolishly in this way, and then gave it up after speaking with a well known Rov.
Agree with number 4, rabbi Heller is a tremendous blessing for this community. Thank you collive for making this available, and thank you to the writer for taking the time to write, and i’m assuming TRANSLATE, this!
there are those who don’t care, it’s truff
Great comment,chumbros are important but
Not more important than the haloches , everyone should have ahavas isroel and sholem bais, and a gut yom tov
Your idea may seem nice, but in my opinion it’s awful. People seem to forget what the author wrote. These are chumros or minhag of some sort NOT halacha.
Simchas Yom Tov is a mitzvah and being with family is really, really important, more important than boiling sugar, or not eating chocolate.
What message would you be sending to your grandchildren that they cannot be with you for pesach because you don’t boil the sugar, or you buy Tropicana? An awful one in my opinion.
what a pleasure to have normal thinking rabbi in our community, may he be bless
Many families have one or more members who have more or different chumrahs. If you can appreciate their desire and they dont force the chumrah on you it can be very workable.
Love and respect will go a long way.
And remember its only 8 days. Be glad you can eat carrots. Belzer chassidim don’t.
just discussing this with my 20 yr old daughter yesterday !
Told her , if when iyh she gets married , her husband is more stringent then we are on pesach , she can go to her inlaws every year and come to us for sukkos ! sholom al yisroel 🙂
And it doesn’t only apply to pesach