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Zaki Tamir Wins the Elections

Attorney Zaki Tamir, 31, is the only winner of Sunday's elections for Vaad Hakohol. Fishel Brownstein, Yossi Hackner and Shea Hecht are set for a run off. Full Story, Poll, Photos

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A Shame We Lost The Old Vaad
June 16, 2010 3:41 pm

“who are responsible for the big positive change in bringing sholom to the community.”

I totally agree with #120. look at the Poll, it says “Disappointed 73%”

But I believe that Zaki will Continue the growth in our comunity, and I give him my full suport!

to 116
June 15, 2010 6:14 pm

Who said I feel terrible? I don’t live in Crown Heights….. All I said was that the community is not very smart as they slapp the face of those who are responsible for the big positive change in bringing sholom to the community. “Chachmey Chelem” this community lol

liberow manchester
June 15, 2010 7:29 am

go uncle shimon your the best!!!!

What Now??
June 15, 2010 1:19 am

NOW, (after the never-ending tzoros R”L,) it’s time for everyone, (including & especially both polar opposite philosphies: Tzfas, Detroit etc….) to simply disagree RESPECTFULY.
Achdus WILL finally bring Moshiach!

Let’s all make this Hachlota on THIS Gimel Tamuz!!!

Go Zaki!!!
June 14, 2010 9:06 pm

All your fans in Miami……!!!

to 108/75
June 14, 2010 9:06 pm

the group of chanina, poltorak,cadaner forced themselves on the community with a “Zroah Chazakah” wwe dont care if they turned over crown heights or the many hundred of “chesed”projects they may have done. the main thing now is that it was a completely fair election in every way and the kohol was allowed their TRUE voice

Sorry that you feel so terrible about that

June 14, 2010 8:45 pm


Rabbi Pinchos Woolstone
June 14, 2010 7:13 pm

Mazel Tov Mr Tamir.
Let us hope that experienced Rabbonim will place their names on the ballot for the third position.
I must say I am worried that serious candidates will not want to be part of a divided Beis Din.
Especially after the CHJCC/Vaad poll we will need a strong indepedent third Rov

June 14, 2010 6:17 pm

We have heard numerous times from the exiting temporary vaad that the psak din vindicated their election. If you read the psak din it says that their election was questionable and explains that they were left as an acting vaad because it was a more practical decision
I do hope the new vaad will quickly be able to find somewhere for Rabbi Segal to sit. It shouldn’t have taken 2 months

OK cool
June 14, 2010 6:05 pm

I am not even bar/bat mitzvah yet and dont get a THING bout whats happening here.

Aaron Vogel
June 14, 2010 5:02 pm

Mazal Tov! Mazal Tov To Zaki Yitzchak Tamir and To the Rebbe’s Schuna!

the people chose to have someone with vast experience in various areas, though it may not be age, to assist our troubled state of affairs.

Please, lets put our differences aside and support him and our community as a whole to work with him and enhance the place we love so much.

Bracha V’Hatzlacha, Zaki.

Aaron Vogel

to all haters
June 14, 2010 4:23 pm

it just goes to show you that people in ch will NEVER be happy no matter what

June 14, 2010 4:19 pm

he got the most votes someone must have known him

To 82
June 14, 2010 3:59 pm

What part didn’t you understand in what I wrote in comment 75? I did not think that the shechuna thought the same. the opposite I pointed out that they chose who they chose so they should not complain later (and trust me they will complain…) lol

To # 62
June 14, 2010 3:52 pm

hat’s off to you!! You hit the nail on the head!

Difference between Tamir & Malamud
June 14, 2010 2:14 pm

Not saying it’s right or wrong, just pointing out a difference:

When Malamud was elected he was already very well known (and I’ll assume by the fact he was elected, respected)

With Tamir, nobody knows anything about him, he’s just some guy without a full beard.

June 14, 2010 1:58 pm

sam malamud didnt & still doesnt have a beard, and was and is considered a great figure of CH for many ppl
while rabbi osdoba lost in din torah, he won in the biggest ever attended election in CH
shows that rabbi osdoba is the true rov of the shcuna

Who R U kidding?
June 14, 2010 1:45 pm

What has Zaki or Hackner ever done 4 CHts? This is a proving ground 4 them, but what about the Shecuna? They will be cutting their teeth at the community’s expense. This is a BIG loss 4 the community, not a win. Sorry, just call me older but wiser.

June 14, 2010 1:33 pm

to be straight honest and forward coming from a a guy. woman should vote they defiantly care more about our schuna then these other men.

a neighbor
June 14, 2010 1:31 pm

yay zaki…we’re so proud of you!

The crown heights community is alive and well!!!
June 14, 2010 1:24 pm

The people have spoken- We want someone who is not a bal machlokes but a doer!
So what if he has a trimmed beard- did we vote him in for mashpia??? No he was voted in to get funding for our community and keep us safe.
This is wake up call to all who have written off crown heights- we have proven that we are a community who wants peace and when given the chance through an election we will come through..

Hey, anyone remember the old slogan...
June 14, 2010 1:12 pm

Never trust anyone over 30? Welcome, the sixties Hippie days are back! Youth rules, see what a great job our young cool Pres is doing ruining America, let’s see what the kids do running CH. Maybe someone who has some life experience knows something? Nah!

Now let's see REAL change
June 14, 2010 12:52 pm

And allow women to vote for CHJCC, supposedly a SECULAR organization.

to 92
June 14, 2010 12:51 pm

I’m sorry but you are exactly wrong, we need new blood, We aren’t talking about a 18 year old kid, in his early 30’s, married with children, he’s no dummy. Maybe some fresh approaches and new faces will shake things up in crown heights and break the failed past attempts at moving forward.

June 14, 2010 12:29 pm

to 83

thats how I felt last year

zacki has humility

some of the others radiate ego

to 83
June 14, 2010 12:09 pm

So leave.

June 14, 2010 12:07 pm

the lecture in this election is very clear
ppl voted against certain candidates
it is clear that we need NEW ppl, not ppl running after power
I would like to suggets that we should elect the candidates, instead that the candidates elect themselves
I would suggest someone like Simon Warenker to be a candidate for the vaad

to 47
June 14, 2010 12:01 pm

It’s exactly the point. To quote you, ‘Lubavitch-oriented’.

Kol Hakovod Zaki Tamir!
June 14, 2010 11:54 am

A true mensch and example of what a real Chassid is.
I wish him that the abershter in conjuction with the
Rebbe’s guidance will lead him on the path to this community’s most deserved potential.
He will do well for this Shchunah.

#90 made mistake
June 14, 2010 11:51 am

Meant to say, people voted for an INexperienced president. BTW, I, too believe that Zaki was likable so he was an add on to alot of votes, no one intending for him to end up #1. Let’s admit the voting needs reform. And who is Mr. Hackner, what has he done in his young life? The Rebbe’s shechuna should not be used as a sand box training ground for eager young people looking to make a reputation. This is not a good result, we lost some irreplacable people yesterday, our loss!

Crown Heights
June 14, 2010 11:24 am

Busy people, busy town. Busy people making others busy to busy themselves with the busy town. What busy does…

Remember Bush Bashing?
June 14, 2010 11:20 am

Dear #86, People hated Bush, voted for an experienced Pres with questionable ties, now we are talking depression and new Holocaust, G-d forbid, get it?

all for beards, but....
June 14, 2010 11:16 am

I do believe in the importance of the beard. But, of what purpose is a beard, when it is merely a mask on someone? A beard has no value when the person behind it fights, cheats, steals.. or whatever it is wrong they are doing.

June 14, 2010 11:16 am

Tamir got in because he was 5th, 6th, 7th choice on most of the ballots. The next in seniority will be even less known Hackner, cause as many pointed out, ppl will either vote for Hecht or Brownstein and Hackner will be second on everyones ballot.

June 14, 2010 10:50 am

This article and the one about the gabbayim winners were not written clearly. If you didnt know how many vaad hakol ppl were being elected you wouldnt understand y there is being a run off. Also this whole 50% thing was unclear. And for the Gabbayim my brain was twirling in circles. I understand who one buy what abt Lipskeir i dont get whats with him it didnt explain it clearly.

to #83
June 14, 2010 10:48 am

get it
the shcunah did not think like the vadd with what thy did

June 14, 2010 10:46 am

this is the most funniest paragraph:
Tired and sweaty, the 16 volunteers who are counting turned to Shimon Goldberg, an educator in Oholei Torah hired by Rosenberg to keep order and quiet in the room, asking him for drinks “or at least sushi” (They got neither).

to #80 from # 70
June 14, 2010 10:36 am

your theory although a good one does not represent reality. The bottom line is that there will have to be a run off and the bottom line is that Hackner just has to keep his mouth shut, stay out of the way for a few weeks and he is in. The only one that can beet him is himself. So my advice to Hackner, and I know him since he was little (so it might be hard for him to do) keep quite and you win.

Obama=Hope & Change
June 14, 2010 10:36 am

Why does this feel like an uncomfortable repeat of the terrible election of our US Pres? Slick, smooth talker, community organizer. Good Luck, first I wanted to leave America, now I want to leave CH, too!

to 75
June 14, 2010 10:34 am

it must be that the shcunah thinks diffrenetly

Thank you COLLIVE
June 14, 2010 10:33 am

You did it again!
You INFORMED us, COVERED the candidates and FOLLOWED their campaign trail, to HELP us make an informed decision.

To #70
June 14, 2010 10:29 am

By your logic Hecht and Brownstein should be in since those who voted for Hecht didn’t vote for Brownstein and vice versa. Therefore, combined they represent all members of the community and with Zaki as the “Independent” perhaps they can lead our community forward.

The next Choice is....
June 14, 2010 10:00 am

Hecht = Experience + connections, but troubling integrity
Hackner = Integrity, but little experience and no connections.
Brownstein = Integrity + Experience, with limited connections (whatever one year on the Vaad will get you).

By experience I mean life experience not Vaad Hakahal experience.


June 14, 2010 9:56 am

Why are you idiots looking to say something bad about another person?

If you don’t like whats going on move to Ohio, and start your new religious community where you can ban people.

OOO wait you guys would just end up killing each other trying to be more religious then your neighbor

Itzhaki Properties
June 14, 2010 9:49 am

Hackner for President

TO 46. 47. 59
June 14, 2010 9:46 am

Just because your upset you lost doesn’t mean you should be a hypocrite ,remember sam melamed : { =- you cant have everything

No Good Deed Goes Unpunished....
June 14, 2010 9:40 am

So the current Vaad worked on Sholom only to be slapped in the face by the community….
Chachmei Chelem? No wonder the community looks that way. Blame only ourselves….

to all those haters think for a min
June 14, 2010 9:39 am

did sam malmad have a beard and everyone voted for him why should this Jew be different

June 14, 2010 9:31 am


June 14, 2010 9:25 am

look at that no body else just MIAMI!!!

zu fill
June 14, 2010 9:23 am

tomuch loshon horo all trhe tim e must we bared yenem we
just hade the achdus shiurim nu

Hackner is in!
June 14, 2010 9:22 am

Well we should just have a vote between Hecht and Bronstein since everyone must vote for two out of three those that vote for Bronstein will not vote for Hecht and those that vote for Hecht will not vote for Bronstein making Hackner the 2nd member of the new Vaad!

A sad girl said
June 14, 2010 9:17 am

Why only boys not girls?

June 14, 2010 9:13 am

the rulling of the AYATOLAS is over, the people said , enough with the meshichsten, enough with all the henchman that were dancing around pretending to represent CH, enough with hate mongers that insulted rabonim in 770, enough with gabboym that are against anything normal, it is a new day in CH,

to #45
June 14, 2010 9:05 am

and sam melamed as rush hakahal was just fine

i see no busha with that

he was voted for rush hakahal to work in chjcc

he was not voted to be mashpia

why can't woman vote???
June 14, 2010 8:50 am

I believe that this community should be run fully transparent and with full rights to woman and to anyone older than 21 or 22 years old whether they are married or not. Zaki Tamir, Shea Hecht, fishel Brownstein and Yossi Hackner will make a great team for the Vaad hakohal.

June 14, 2010 8:41 am

PLEASE! With more bad news yesterday, we need to strengthen our Achdus…and it can start small, like talking nicely to each other! !
Moshiach is literally at the threshold, let’s just be patient with each other – and treat everyone like we care. Maybe it will start to grow on us – and we will!
Let’s just get Moshiach here already!
Yasher Koach everyone!!!
P.S. I, for one, enjoy seeing all the leinge payos in 770! very Moshiachdik!
And maybe with Ahavas Yisroel, the beard will grow in…he is a very fine person, from an exceptional family!

Rabbi Schwei's camp
June 14, 2010 8:35 am

In my personal view – this election result is a Shtikel Mapala for Rav Schwei’s camp.

We have spoken!
June 14, 2010 8:33 am

The Rebbe’s Shcuna has spoken loud and clear: Poltrak and Sperlin and company are NOT acceptable to us at all!

June 14, 2010 8:29 am

I’m not sure if you are that insecure with yourself, or are you just joking. I chose my role models I don’t have other people chose them for me, and even if I would, it defiantly wouldn’t be the Va’ad Hakohol. Poltrak, Sperlin, Rubashkin, they are perfect role models, right? These people are neither role models nor leaders, they are our servants. If you were hiring someone to do a job for you, you wouldn’t choose someone to be your role model; you’d choose some who can get it done.

June 14, 2010 8:22 am

Wow I have been following all say and night ,I must say you guys had me coverd. Go COLLIVE.

June 14, 2010 8:20 am
June 14, 2010 8:12 am


Crown Heights resident
June 14, 2010 8:06 am

Please give him a bit of lchaf zchus; maybe he will change this now that he is in this position. For all our sakes, I wish him well and much Hatzlacha!!!

June 14, 2010 7:54 am

Out with the old, who got in be’hashgocha protis only to bring us to this point of refresh & renewal, there are plenty people who have no beard and do alot of good work for the Klal, The Rebbe would never talk loshon hora or put down Mr Tamir because of his beard in public the way some of you low lifes (with beards) do. and who knows, Mr Tamir may decide to grow his beard now that he has the clear support of the kehillah to represent it, either way it is non our business what he does with… Read more »

to #46
June 14, 2010 7:36 am

do you remember who was the “Rosh Hakahal” from 5748- 5755

go yankie
June 14, 2010 7:35 am

yankie sufrin is my hero

If I recall
June 14, 2010 7:32 am

Sam Malamud didn’t have a beard, and was good enough for us back then. No?

I like zaky
June 14, 2010 7:23 am

I like him and I wanted him to win amoungst others. I guess after the runoff he will be one of three and that will be good. For the time being it does not speak well that the most qualified person does not have a beard. (I worded that carefully to distinguish that I am not judging him only the community. ).

By the way he is a Talmud of Detroit ( which gives him inteesting perspective) and a brother in law to the liozner( I am not sire what that brings)

the system has failed
June 14, 2010 7:21 am


CH member
June 14, 2010 6:23 am

#46, you are a genius. What we should do is all vote for the person with the biggest beard so that we can be under funded, and neglected. Let’s not forget what else it says in the Torah. A- Do not steal B- do not cheat. Wait, what does it say about mosering on someone?? Point being, “Derech erets kodma latorah!!” One can have a beard and be 100 times worse when it comes to religion…What we need now is someone that can help this community grow and get us the Funding and Security we deserve.

Please just do it.
June 14, 2010 6:11 am

We the people have spoken, we the people will continue to speak, we the people want peace, we the people want to see only positive feedback posted, we the people thank you COL for your hard work in providing us with the news.

Sperlin redux?
June 14, 2010 6:05 am

Sperlin is clearly out of the picture. But the question is will he create a new organization to show his power with the Mayor, President, and Governor with the politicians?

Att 43
June 14, 2010 5:47 am

The sheer genius in your brilliant words is astounding. Idiot.

Ashamed & Embarassed
June 14, 2010 5:36 am

As a Crown Heights resident I am ashamed and embarassed by the elections. The fact that our new “Rosh Hakahal” is a plucked chicked is a BUSHA VECHERPA to a community that “claims” to be Lubavitch-oriented. The Rebbeim were strict about Tzeilem Elokim and the Frierdiker Rebbe wrote that someone who touches his beard shall not cross the threshold of Lubavitch! But here in Crown Heights the most capable ones are the plucked chickens. Nebach. (Disclaimer: I voted for Tamir because he is the most capable and thats the sad part…)

June 14, 2010 5:24 am

the only guy to get elected trims his beard

to 42
June 14, 2010 5:04 am

you’ll be suprise how many peope care about crown heights although they don’t live there

brownstein step down
June 14, 2010 4:57 am

Brownstain should step down

June 14, 2010 4:48 am

There were only 2 thousand odd votes but I quote “thousands visited COL for updates”
Not likely
But I must say there are a majority of yechi yarmulkahs in the room which cannot be just.
I demand a recount

way to go!
June 14, 2010 4:38 am

this is so exciting (although we dont live in NY)

mazal tov zaki
June 14, 2010 4:38 am
June 14, 2010 4:16 am

What is he ruling regarding hanging chads?

June 14, 2010 4:10 am

its already nice that everyone came together to vote

lipsker won?
June 14, 2010 3:51 am

I didn’t want lipsker to win for gabous – he is such a mishichist
its not normal.

Great Job COLLive
June 14, 2010 3:38 am

Thanks for the great reporting job and updates!

June 14, 2010 3:37 am

the voice of crown hights was heard loud and clear:

oh please
June 14, 2010 3:35 am

recount lipskier, get him out of there for everyones good, please!

Mazal Tov
June 14, 2010 3:33 am

What number for the beard?

June 14, 2010 2:32 am

I don’t understand what can possibly take so long!

25 thanks
June 14, 2010 2:30 am

whats the update

June 14, 2010 2:28 am

Look at it as a live update we are working to get 50% of the vote hence we voted for at least 5 on the ballot. Now the udates given are as they are count….. should they stop counting now these would be the totals

yshar koach
June 14, 2010 2:27 am

A thank you from australia for the updates and the photos
hatzlacha to all elected officials in the Rebbe’s shchuna

mazel tov gaboim - show them whos their gabai
June 14, 2010 2:27 am

I say gerlitzky holtzberg losh won the gabous! Looking forward to rabbi yoel kahn, avremel, yudel, farbreng in 770 this year shnas 770 in bais moshiach with mh”m as soon as possible.

lo aleinu
June 14, 2010 2:27 am

that our rolemodel and leader should be someone who blatantly goes against the teachings of all the rebeim and what out parents and grandparents were moser nefesh for…HAVING A BEARD!!!

mendy says
June 14, 2010 2:26 am

They should disqualify anyone that did not get 50 percent of the votes, and bring in new candidates for another election.

nice to see you...
June 14, 2010 2:25 am

Shimon Liberow and Yanky Sufrin…

Go Benny Raskin!
June 14, 2010 2:25 am
thanks collive
June 14, 2010 2:14 am

for the up to date and fair reporting during the whole elections

Media Predictions
June 14, 2010 2:12 am

Col Are you calling it yet?

June 14, 2010 2:02 am

That is absurd, in presidential and congressional election many time there are more than two candidates and the candidates are running against each other. Over here each candidate is running independently against the 50% mark. So if you are going to make comparisons you should try to make sure that they are at least similar cases.

June 14, 2010 1:49 am

So far we have a total of 514%! I think this may be a mathematic breakthrough!

something is fishy PEN???
June 14, 2010 1:46 am

why is the guy holding a pen in the pic this is insane .where are u rabbi rosenberg .

Read read .... Understand.... Comment
June 14, 2010 1:42 am

#1 These are the numbers as they are voting….. Like they do in presidential races

June 14, 2010 1:37 am

Can you please give us the latest stats?

#1 here
June 14, 2010 1:33 am

Well that’s a real stupid way of counting, if you already have the total number of votes then the count should tell you how close they are to 50% of that total not some arbitrary number that has no actual relevance.

ok now
June 14, 2010 1:32 am

we are all jumping on # 1, lucky for him no onw knows who he/she is.

to #6
June 14, 2010 1:30 am

good point

percentages are SO FAR
June 14, 2010 1:22 am

I’m assuming that if it says 50%, it means 50% of th ballots that have been counted thus far.

June 14, 2010 1:22 am

50 % of the votes counted as of now,

answer to #1
June 14, 2010 1:22 am

because not all of the have been counted yet

to #1
June 14, 2010 1:21 am

they have only counted 900 votes so far!

Read the article
June 14, 2010 1:20 am

#1 They are still in the middle counting…….so far these are the numbers. Read……….. Than ask… It’s a life lesson

# uno,
June 14, 2010 1:18 am

ha ha ha, Oholei Terieh is down the block

June 14, 2010 1:18 am

they r not done yet

to #1
June 14, 2010 1:16 am

of those counted to that point, i.e. some 730 ballots.

Why is he HOLDING A PEN?
June 14, 2010 1:14 am

Why is the guy in photo # 3 HOLDING A PEN IN HIS HAND?

up all night
June 14, 2010 1:14 am

to #1:

Please tell me that youre not serious.

June 14, 2010 1:12 am

50% of what was counted

Whats the breakdown as of 1:04am?
June 14, 2010 1:12 am
to 1:
June 14, 2010 1:12 am

Genius, it’s over 50 of the votes counted…

June 14, 2010 1:10 am

I’m not getting it. 2,064 votes, so 50% of that is 1,032. With some ballots disqualified, still how does 300 and something get you 50%?