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    You’ve Got a Nosh

    Children of Shluchim spending the summer in 16 overnight camps were happy to get care packages of nosh and prizes. Full Story

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    I actually totally disagree with this.....
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    I actually totally disagree with this.....

    Being that it is in camp with so many other kids. This makes a disconnect between the “regular” kid and the shliach’s kid. Don’t you think all those young campers too young to understand, will feel left out for not getting a package too.

    It’s different when 5 kids in camp get a package then when 50 kids get one and a big deal with photos are made out of it.

    I agree
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    I agree

    I agree with comment 1 this is very elitist thing to do

    Before the bashing begins..
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    Before the bashing begins..

    I agree with 1. BH, there are so many shluchim kids in sleep away camps, at least 50%.

    Wake up
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    Wake up

    “This makes a disconnect between the “regular” kid and the shliach’s kid.” the disconnect already exists in a strong way stop nudging with stupid ideas and go on shlichus next time if you feel disconnected

    I agree with # 1
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    I agree with # 1

    Not Cool!

    i agree with #1
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    i agree with #1

    makes sense for the shluchim kids to get packages at their own homes during the year, but at camp (and i can say this from experience) the other kids feel totally left out. it’s not like the shluchim are experiencing any deprivation at camp. send them to their homes please.

    ppls FACTS
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    ppls FACTS

    i at least know abt the girls in the purple shirts the reason why its 50 kids and there is a big deal with the pic is cause the WHOLE camp got!! its a tzeirei hashluchim camp 🙂

    agree with #1
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    agree with #1

    firstly to #4…there is almost no where left to go on shlichus secondly, the life of shluchim is not harder then the life of a typical middle class lubavitch family. In fact, many shluchim have it better and live a more comfortable life with the title of a shliach and all the perks that go along with it. also, all resources in chabad go to shluchim and nothing is left for the kids in crown heights, who are essentially neglected in terms of yiddishkeit. when it comes to chanukah, nothing exciting is done for our kids, everyone expects them to… Read more »

    tis not fair!!
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    tis not fair!!

    why should i be deprived of a yummy looking package, im a kid too! time and place for everything!

    Don't jump to conclusions
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    Don't jump to conclusions

    The Sweden camp (the camp with the purple t-shirts) is called Tzirei HaShluchim, a camp for Shluchims children in Europe, so obviously, all the kids got it.
    So maybe the other camps are also!!!
    Don’t be so negative

    agree to #1
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    agree to #1

    what hurts me most is there is a link to donate, why should i feel to donate to such a cause!?

    as a camper in camp for 8 years i was totally rejected by the way the staff gave more TLC for the kids of shluchim…

    Re # 7
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    Re # 7

    It clearly states in the article that children in 16 camps around the world including cgi parksville….. got packages – so no it was not just in shluchim camps. I agree with #1. Very unimpressed. Let their parents send their own packages just like the rest of us who SUPPORT these shluchim.

    to # 7 & 10
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    to # 7 & 10

    The swedish camp is only 1 of 16 camps that got it. Most of the other camps have 100’s of kids which are not shluchim. That is what all the comments are referring to.

    shocked
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    shocked

    we are in the three weeks, why this lack of ahavas yisroel. As a parent of shluchim who do not have cholov yisroel, meat and pas yisroel readily available and have all their children home every day for lack of proper schools, to read a comment declaring shluchim have it good, makes me cringe. Let us stop judging and jumping to conclusions and start being happy for others. Teach your children this and they ill not have to be jealous. To #8 you be the one to give your children the pride and joy in being who they are. If… Read more »

    Agree
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    Agree

    What a waste to send these packages to camp. Why not wait till after camp when the kids are back home – that’s when they might be feeling “forgotten”. not in the middle of camp with 200 other kids.

    I also agree that far too many resources are going to shluchim. many, many shluchim live far better than your average frum family. I think it makes sense to have these resources available for shluchim who really do need them, but to do it indiscriminately? just wrong.

    To #10
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    To #10

    Sorry but your wrong! Last summer I attended CGI Detroit a camp for everyone around the world Shluchim or not, and every girl who was a daughter of a Shliach got one one which was majority of our bunk the girls who weren’t Shluchim FELT REALLY LEFT OUT.

    no money from me
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    no money from me

    This kind of insensitivity is exactly why I will never donate to this program. Send the kids packages to their houses. OK. Sending packages in such a public fashion is such a stupid elitist arrogant thing to do. Do the people who run this program have any sensitivity to children and their feelings. Go fund raise elsewhere. My kids aren’t good enough for a package at camp, my money isn’t’ good enough for you.

    to number 8
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    to number 8

    Obviously you are not a shliach , and don’t have one bit of an understanding of what shlichus is ! And its good that children in camp should see how special shluchim are ! And as appose to feel left out they should be happy to have children that are shluchim in there bunk ! See it depends how you look at it ! And no I am not on shlichus !

    to #8 from #4
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    to #8 from #4

    “there is almost no where left to go on shlichus’ is a lie . what you want to say is that there are no more exotic places that you like left to go. i personally know of some one who moved to the middle of nowhere just 8 months ago. that’s shlichus, knocking on doors all day, dealing with every problem that peolple have, no warm weather all year, no beaches, going to schlep for kosher food etc. just stop trying to excuse yourself and blame the shluchim. ” In fact, many shluchim have it better and live a more… Read more »

    I disagree with all of you!
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    I disagree with all of you!

    I am a Crown Heights BB, but I go to visit Shluchim often. Life is NOT easy for ANY Shliach, even those who officialy have $$ (which is a miyut shebemiyut), they still have A VERY difficult life in other ways and BIFRAT di kinder. The kids have a very rough life. So, they feel “special” for one day by ggetting a package? Ess kumt zey, they are on the front lines of the Rebbes battle, wether or not you like to hear that!!!!

    Please publish
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    Please publish

    In this article you let everyone know that Shluchim’s children in overnight camp received packages in order that they “wont feel forgotten during the summer months.” While I was scrolling down to the comments I noticed that many readers felt the same way that I felt when I first read the article. Let me explain: Every young child dreams of being a Shliach/Shlucha. Why? When I asked myself that question I realized that the only drive was that they saw all their peers, relatives, and friends were all Shluchim and that they had all the fun and privileges. Here’s an… Read more »

    not true
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    not true

    i’d like to say that there are still many places to go on shlichus those who LOOK for shlichus and want to go on shlichus find a place. secondly the shluchim fundraise money from THEIR community to make programs and generally not from lubavitchers. and if you feel that the CH kids aren’t getting any fun and educational programs is b/c YOU are not putting in the effort to make the program. NO ONE will do it for you, shluchim have that responsibility and therefore MAKE the programs for THEIR communities. what the shluchim are deprived of is NOT necessarily… Read more »

    Gosh
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    Gosh

    I was about to send a message saying “I spot ….. so and so” Good thing i didnt, some ppl are insensetive the to ROUGH life Shluchim go through may lynch him.

    Grow Up Already
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    Grow Up Already

    It is so immature of most of you. The rebbe treated all of his chassidim specially but made special mention of those that dedicated their entire life to the rebbe’s mission. No one said all shluchim can’t pay bills and some shluchim may be able to afford more then a struggling individual in the working world. But working a job is not shlichus regardless who makes what. Shlichus means dedicating your every minute to certain inyonim thata working person might not be able to do. These kids deserve care packages because they are at the forefront helping their parents fulfilling… Read more »

    to all you bashers
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    to all you bashers

    a little ahavas yisroel can go a loooong way.
    why dont you organize a program to send care packages to all the “non shluchim” so they wont feel left out.

    a shliach in the West Coast
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    a shliach in the West Coast

    I am a shliach and agree with comments above, if you want to send it a care package send it when they are home. #8 has a good point.

    clarfication by #8
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    clarfication by #8

    i am not saying life for shluchim is easy but life for the typical crown heights family is just as hard if not harder. this is a fact. life is tough and EVERYONE struggles, not just shluchim. looking around, realistically, not idealistically there is a big problem in lubavitch where our children today do not feel yiddishkeit and the kids dress however they want, do whatever they want, eat whatever they want. this is the reality. we are obviously doing something wrong and I feel strongly that is just one example of what is wrong today, realistically speaking. not enough… Read more »

    to 22
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    to 22

    so are you suggesting that a group of crown heights folks organize a similar package giving and discriminate the shluchim kids?

    agree with 18,19,20
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    agree with 18,19,20

    to #8 dont say shluchim have it better off than you….get a clue…..

    GEI FEIFEN!!!
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    GEI FEIFEN!!!

    IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING PASSIONATELY ENOUGH THAN STOP IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THE REBBE LOVES US ALL AND WOULD HATE SEEING THIS!! WE ARE ALL SHLUCHIM AND THE REBBE LOVES US SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO JUST STOP!!

    I am comment # 1
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    I am comment # 1

    Wow, I see that I stirred up a hornets nest. This was not my intention! It certainly didn’t mean for it to get so personal. I would like to clarify the point that I was trying to make. I have tremendous respect for Shluchim and their kids. The Mesiras Nefesh they have is incredible. And yes, I do believe that they deserve special privilages. All I was trying to say is that there is a time and place for everything and it wasn’t appropriate for this to be in a camp with so many other kids. Kids see things as… Read more »

    not a daughter of a shlucha
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    not a daughter of a shlucha

    i went to one off the above camps for many years and every time the shluchim got their package i felt left out i always wanted to go on shluchus but the whole world cant ‘go” on shluchos otherwise there would be no kosher bakieries..in frum communties or role models for the non frum ppll to see a jewish comunity so it wasnt realistic for my parents i always understood that these girls have it hard during the year but in camp with other girls who aren’t in the place to decide to go on shluchis its ABSOLUTELY wrong to… Read more »

    just remember
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    just remember

    its not the parents of the children who arent on shluchos seeing the special treatment it is the children who cant go on their own on shluchos so dont say if your jelous go on shluchos THEY ARE CHILDREN

    visiting day???
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    visiting day???

    so maybe we should cancel visiting day so my son won’t feel left out?????
    i am sure he felt great when all the other kids parents came hugging and kissing with all the boxes of nosh!!!!!
    you people need help!!
    a shlucha.

    hard enough, dont worry
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    hard enough, dont worry

    just keep in mind that shluchim’s kids also have to deal with social life during camp – with no experience at it, they don’t have that all year round, even camp is hard…
    and yes, of course we love it, we love giving everything we could have had to the Rebbe, we love seeing everything our parents accomplish, and we love being the Rebbe’s kinderlach.
    and yes, i feel i deserve such a package.

    from a shlucha
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    from a shlucha

    As a Shlucha who has to teach my kids at home, I would like to say I agree with the sentiments placed in comment 1. My kids love the packages they get ocaasionally during the year (they are not camp age yet), but you bring up a good point that other kids should not feel left out. I don’t think by posting it here, you will accomplish much besides an uproar.. I don’t think this is a discussion of you and us, as that is not a healthy thing to do. Something practical will only be accomplished if the the… Read more »

    a very proud shlucha!
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    a very proud shlucha!

    excuse me!! all you people are complaining that they feel left out the poor kids who dont get care packages…. did you ever think about the shluchim who leave their home at age of 9 10 11 or 12? they feel even more left out looking at their freinds who go home every day to a normal house and they might go to grandparents aunts or uncles but thats not home! even by aunts and uncles THEY FEEL LEFT OUT !!! dont think abotu yourselves the whole day… They feel left out but they just continue with live do it… Read more »

    Shlucha
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    Shlucha

    Please don’t feel so bitter. Our children are not the ones that chose to be shluchim – there parents did. They did not choose to travel 1 hr. to school each day etc. Yes my kids are proud to be shluchim, they don’t know of another way of life & as parents we thank Hashem & the Rebbe for the zchus. But it comes with an achrayis that is not easy. Our home is a 24/7 open home B”H, from Shabbos, to classes our children share there mommy & tatty all the time. Money is always tight – we live… Read more »

    to # 34 visiting day...
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    to # 34 visiting day...

    Firstly, many shluchim do go and visit their kids on visiting day, and secondly, not all city kids get visitors, there are plenty of not shluchim kids who don’t get visitors either, so don’t generalize.

    And # 37, stop whining. If you are such a proud Shlucha, you should have signed your name. It is exactly people like you who give shluchim that holier than thou reputation.

    "MyShliach"
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    "MyShliach"

    just so you so you all know these packages come from the “MyShliach” program. I am a shlucha and didnt get this package when i was in camp because i am not part of the “MyShliach” program, These packages are supposed to be for the kids in the program from there MyShliach partner.

    everyone read 21
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    everyone read 21

    this girl describes her light in a clear perspective i think its very meaningfull!

    Proud shliach who loves all children
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    Proud shliach who loves all children

    I am a shliach and I am thankful for My Shliach for sendng thes thoughtful packages. However, I totally agree that it is insensitive to send it in full view of the other children.
    Please, send it the homes, or better yet:
    Get locals to help sponsor packages for ALL children. The non-shluchim could receive material promoting the beauty of shlichus and why they should want to become shluchim. And, voila, achdus at its best

    to #1 and all that agree
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    to #1 and all that agree

    Maybe they should stop giving out awards for “best camper”, Best learner”, etc.
    It may make a child who doesn’t deserve it sooooo sad….!!!

    Come on ppl. You have nothing better to do with your life, other than complain.

    Be sensitive!
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    Be sensitive!

    Send it to their homes when they get back.

    Care  package
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    Care package

    Send these thoughtful packages during Chanukah or Purim or a birthday. These kids of shluchim could then appreciate them more fully. By the way, don’t be jealous of the shluchim – sometimes it can get very lonely out there (not only for the kids)

    Please!
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    Please!

    Yes my son got a package from family, because the shluchim are one big family! The truth is this is where our strength lies, to know we are not alone, that we have each other for support, and you know what those kids deserve something special many of them do not have a quarter of the opportunities that regular city kids have, and you can only know this after experiencing it personally, day after day month after month and year after year!!!

    Lets not forget....
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    Lets not forget....

    Lets not forget Rosh Chodesh Kislev 5748 in front of thousands of crown heights residents the Rebbe stood and gave mamer for hours for Shluchim and Shluchim only, excluding even Rabbanim and Askanim.

    Yes Shluchim are special, go on shlichus!

    to #39
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    to #39

    where’s YOUR name….?

    Shlucha WITHOUT kids in overnight camp
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    Shlucha WITHOUT kids in overnight camp

    I think #34 hit it on the nail. Many Shluchim spend all that money (that they don’t have) to send their kids to camp, and then can’t afford to travel as well to visit them on visiting day. While many try to send a relative in their place, it’s not always possible, and even when they do arrange something, the child is usually sharing their visitor with the child of the person who they really came to visit. I propose that Merkos arranges to send the packages to the camp before visiting day and then the camp distributes them on… Read more »

     shlichus is NOT a college frat club!
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    shlichus is NOT a college frat club!

    While it might be true that some shluchim don’t have an easy time – the vast majority DO in fact receive MANY perks and benefits that are off-limits to the average Lubavitcher living in Crown Heights. They get huge big checks of THOUSANDS of dollars just for belonging to this frat club! While many Crown Heights families have a box of matzah and tuna for supper! Either make this available to ALL kids, or NO KIDS AT ALL! Yiddishkeit is FOR EVERY SINGLE yid, not just a few “select” individuals. Chassidus was founded on ahavas yisroel – EXCLUSION in any… Read more »

    well done # 49
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    well done # 49

    finally, someone who is not griping and actually suggesting viable solutions.

    my kid
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    my kid

    I have a child in camp in a bunk with a majority of Shluchim children. When most of the kids got a package he felt horrible, in addition some of the Shluchim kids taunted the ones who didn’t get….. Some people just don’t give much thought to what they are doing. A child can use a gift when they are home in their Shlichus city. When they are in camp they are having the time of their lives with many other Shluchim children this is unnecessary. The only advantage is you get a photo op. The money spent can be… Read more »

    stop evrything
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    stop evrything

    sooo just stop all prizes…..for best sdudent…..best davaner…..best bunk…etc……IT MAKES PPL LEFT OUT!!!
    thats what ur all sayin!!
    these kids finnaly get somthink to make them happy….soo what if the other kids feel left out for day or soo….shluchim feel left out on a day to day bases!!!!!!!!!!
    sooo if u have somthiing negetive to say dont say it

    your wrong #53
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    your wrong #53

    its different when you earn something than when you receive something because you live in a designated area and yes sometimes there’s a limit to best student ……

    Remember ...
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    Remember ...

    you can debate all day if these children deserve to get the package in camp or not but in the end these are children and they are feeling left out if you shluchim are going out to spread Hashems torah and bring Moshiach making another yid feel bad is just not the way to do it!!!!

    ahavas chinam
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    ahavas chinam

    will build BHMK hashlishi.

    did any other commenters learn that in school? or was it just me?

    To #54...ime num 53
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    To #54...ime num 53

    These kids r earning it!!!!
    There earning it by being shluchim!!!!!
    It takes a lot out of these kids….and they really are earning it!!!!

    Wow!
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    Wow!

    Shluchim are special, because they have a special responsibility and Zechus. Part of this responsibility and Zechus is to be a shining example of humility and Ahavas Yisroel, helping every Yid spiritually and physically, in order to fulfill the Rebbe’s Shlichus in the most complete way.

    Just wow!
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    Just wow!

    Leave it to the readers of COL to only look at the negativity in something so positive! Obviously everyone who posted these negative coments must be living in a bubble if they think shluchim’s lives are “easy”. that is the most ridiculous and ignorant thing i have ever heard! Yea, some of them might be well off because of people in their community, but their kids have very few frum friends in their community and usually notice the difference between them and their comunity friends, most shluchim have to order food and don’t have the luxury of eating out, and… Read more »

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