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Yeshiva Bochur in Shidduchim Discovers He Isn’t Jewish

Shock in the Yeshiva world: A top bochur who was in Shidduchim discovered that he isn’t Jewish - something the Rebbe warned about ages ago. Full Story, Video

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Chilling
December 13, 2021 9:54 pm

It’s chilling reading the story and then hearing the Rebbe’s words

Wow
December 13, 2021 9:57 pm

Context : The Rebbe was discussing the painful topic of mihu yehudi – the battle to ensure giyur in Eretz Yisroel would only be according to Halacha, the Rebbe told over a startling anecdote. “I asked a rosh yeshiva why he is quiet [about mihu yehudi]. He told me he is busy with spreading Torah. That is indeed a lofty matter, [but] do you know that there are goyim learning in your yeshiva?! And you say a shiur for them!” “Among the students in the yeshiva are one, or more, bochurim, who don’t even know [that they are not Jewish].… Read more »

Translation?
December 13, 2021 9:58 pm

Is there an English translation the the rebbe’s audio for those who can’t understand Hebrew or Yiddish ?

The comment above literally translates it
Reply to  Translation?
December 13, 2021 10:54 pm

read the previous comment

alex
December 13, 2021 10:33 pm

B”H
What’s the supersize that the Rebbe MH’M warned of this problem and they found one?

Precisely
Reply to  alex
December 14, 2021 1:33 am

not supersizing at all.

Ger Tzedek
December 13, 2021 10:41 pm

Rebbe also spoke about people from former Soviet Russia that are lost generation and even don’t know that they are Jewish, because their ancestors hide and change all papers for the “ good “ ones. Who knows what is the Emes of these stories, but his Neshome is Jewish and found her way to learn Yiddishkait anyway. The big alya from ussr had a big potential to be observant but no one was working with Russian Jewish back in 90’s -20’s , only now some work is done. All Shluhim that came back to Israel need to spread Yiddishkait to… Read more »

Shluchim
Reply to  Ger Tzedek
December 14, 2021 12:23 am

Shluchim of Rebbe worked since the seventies with Russian Jewry. What are you talking about!?

Yes!
Reply to  Shluchim
December 15, 2021 12:26 am

And the person you responded to here also seems to be forgetting all the “underground” work the Frierdiker Rebbe did himself, along with sending rabbis to help preserve Torah and mitzvos in the FSU!!!

A navi b'rosheinu
December 14, 2021 12:10 am

Moshiach NOW

practically
December 14, 2021 12:32 am

What did the Rebbe practically want us to do about this ?

mihu yehudi
Reply to  practically
December 14, 2021 1:03 am

The Rebbe wanted real verification of who is a yid, for anyone coming to Eretz Yisroel as a yid, not phony claims by unkrainiens or falashim.

Question of the year
December 14, 2021 12:36 am

How do you prove someone is Jewish?

Simple
Reply to  Question of the year
December 14, 2021 8:59 am

Family history

Good question
Reply to  Question of the year
December 14, 2021 10:14 am

By finding out as far as you can on the mother’s side if they were Jewish

Real proof of giyur
Reply to  Question of the year
December 14, 2021 11:19 pm

Khalacha

Rabonim know the tricks of the trade
December 14, 2021 10:08 am

Not every case is a peice of cake, but there are ways such as researching family trees, kevarim, shules that they were part of and if there is no way to check back and they truly want to be considered jewish they have to do Giyur khalacha, not by a rabbi jessica..

oy!
December 14, 2021 9:02 pm

second story like that in the past month.
who knows how many more that are never discovered.

1 more reason we'll have a flood of them, r"l
Reply to  oy!
December 15, 2021 12:32 am

Why? Up to about 20 or 25 years ago, many frum Yidden had in vitro WITHOUT SHOMRIM involved in the process. Many still do, r”l, and many others have done so during the past couple of decades. Not all are aware of the need for shomrim in the process, and many fertility doctors also still do not know about this. I have trouble believing that quite a few have not already been discovered that are in this status. This is a question that needs to be asked in all shidduchim, up front! This way, those who don’t realize they need… Read more »

Comforting and Troubling
December 15, 2021 1:49 am

HaRav Yosef used his influence with senior Dayanim to expedite the giyur process for the bochur so he can return to his shtender and resume shidduchim

I found this comforting for the Yeshiva student but very troubling for Am Yisrael because in the same week a Ugandan Abudaya convert who also lived his whole life with Jewish practice and in israel for 4 years has converted even twice but still is not accepted as a citizen of Israel by the Interior Ministry.

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