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Will My School Be Closed Again

From the COLlive inbox: A high school student writes about the prospect of New York City once again halting in-person learning. “The rising prospect of school being closed hurts.” Full Story

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Anonymous
October 5, 2020 12:24 am

We need to speak up and stop accepting school shut downs as inevitable. Call every elected official and make it absolutely clear that our schools, shuls and businesses are essential to us and we will not accept another illegal shutdown again, regardless of the covid numbers!

Enough is enough. They will back down when they get enough pushback.

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You Don't Have Your Own Country
Reply to  Anonymous
October 5, 2020 4:20 pm

No they will not back down. You are not special. You don’t have your own Crown Heights Country. You don’t think the NYC public schools are “essential” to students and families–especially those who are poor or have special needs? Stop the spread. Be part of the solution. Be creative. You can learn at home for a while. Safety first. Haven’t enough lives been been lost? Pray for a vaccine.

Baruch Hashem
October 5, 2020 12:33 am

2019 children should be accepted back in and it should be a big zechus for the school to be able to stay open.

100% correct
Reply to  Baruch Hashem
October 5, 2020 9:22 am

That is 100% correct!

A caring friend
October 5, 2020 12:43 am

This is indeed an acutely challenging times for teens and all children (and adults) who need, real social interaction and education. But we also need to recognize that we are in the midst of a dangerous global pandemic. We need to teach our children resilience, flexibility and to do our best no matter what next week brings, while hoping for a better future. I am more upset of a 2nd wave of illness and Lo Alenu, deaths…. in March by the time covid spread, we really didn’t know enough about the virus and it was too late. Now, facing spikes… Read more »

Anonymous
Reply to  A caring friend
October 5, 2020 3:39 am

Wake up. It isn’t either open up and kill people or shut down and save lives. That is the biggest lie being sold now to mislead us. The opposite is true. How many more lives would have been saved had the government ‘experts’ stuck to recommendations and had not banned effective medicine or family advocating in the hospital on behalf of the patient or sending contagious ppl to nursing homes etc… The people in charge are either grossly incompetent or willfully evil… Stop trusting them! They will lead you straight to hell as they have been doing until now. What… Read more »

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Anonymous
Reply to  A caring friend
October 5, 2020 4:14 am

Or can we just allow those at risk the option to treat in advance or early on under their Drs supervision?

And allow the rest of the younger population (who are at an extremely low risk) the option to go about their lives without harassment?

Exactly
Reply to  A caring friend
October 5, 2020 8:56 am

Do you want your child sitting in class with students who have covid? And then they’ll bring it home? I don’t think so

Anonymous
Reply to  Exactly
October 5, 2020 10:46 am

Yes I do. Along with strep and flu and pink eye. Ok?

Recall the health commissioner
October 5, 2020 1:09 am

Dr. Howard Zucker did a terrible job handling covid. He needs to be replaced. What kind of solution is shutting down school for the least at risk group to covid complications? Insanity

Spread is now in teenagers and young adults
Reply to  Recall the health commissioner
October 5, 2020 3:57 am

the ones most getting covid now statistically are age 11 to 29. Those are the highest percentages in israel. Likely similar in ny. Very few old people are getting it

Those are the ones being tested!
Reply to  Spread is now in teenagers and young adults
October 6, 2020 10:56 am

The people you’ve mentioned (ages 11 to 29) are the young people who either go to school or have a job, and most likely need to be tested for it. The more people of a certain age group who get tested, the more people in that age group “have COVID”, so just because those are the STATISTICS doesn’t mean that it’s real.

Anonymous
Reply to  Recall the health commissioner
October 5, 2020 10:52 am

Yes! Replace with Dr. Harvey Risch! Just as experienced/knowledgeable but also HONEST and courageous.

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Stop getting tested
October 5, 2020 1:10 am

It’s that simple, stop getting tested. They can’t do anything if they don’t have statistics

Agree
Reply to  Stop getting tested
October 5, 2020 3:40 am

Louder for those in the back.

utterly ridiculous
Reply to  Stop getting tested
October 5, 2020 3:53 am

that can cost lives by not getting tested. Just out for yourself and not following the torah in caring about others

Anonymous
Reply to  Stop getting tested
October 5, 2020 4:17 am

Why the down votes? What practical benefit is there for testing?

Stop the spread
Reply to  Anonymous
October 5, 2020 4:23 pm

To KNOW if you are contagious and therefore must quarantine to stop spreading. If everyone did this, we could control the virus. This is how it is spread. Please read about the virus from epidemiologists and virologists. There is so much misinformation. Educate yourself from reliable sources.

Really???!!!
Reply to  Stop getting tested
October 5, 2020 4:20 am

Chas vishalom! What if I need to quarantine, I’m in close contact with the highly concerning ppl. You clearly don’t care. Shame on you!!

Nope
Reply to  Stop getting tested
October 5, 2020 8:57 am

But if we don’t get tested/get a positive we won’t stay home

Seriously?
Reply to  Nope
October 5, 2020 10:24 am

Seriously? When you feel unwell you wont stay home?
And it’s interesting, a virus so deadly you need to get tested to know if you have it. Hmm.

Not the answer
Reply to  Stop getting tested
October 5, 2020 9:09 am

Unfortunately testing is necessary. How is someone supposed to get the treatment he or she needs if they are not tested? Especially with the flu coming upon us.

Anonymous
Reply to  Not the answer
October 5, 2020 10:49 am

Exactly the reason to demand access to early treatment BEFORE you get your test results. No need for the test or it’s result.

And the treatment should theoretically also fend off the flu too because of how it works. Double win

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Deblasio communist elections control
October 5, 2020 4:27 am

At this point people are not aware, it is to stop in person voting, so the Democrats could control the votes by mailing in ballots, we need to spick up and not allow this communist deblasio mayor to close new York city

Idea
October 5, 2020 4:39 am

Schools, shuls, and stores should stop skirting the rules and enforce mask use and capacity limits (770, I’m looking at you). It’s either that or the virus will continue spreading out of control and there will be no other choice but to shut down schools in order to save lives. This pandemic isn’t easy, but there things we can do to make it easier for ourselves and our neighbors. Following medical guidelines is the only choice if we want to try our hand at preventing another lockdown (if that’s not already too late).

Stop the spread
Reply to  Idea
October 5, 2020 4:25 pm

Thank you. At last someone with sense. If the frum communities let the virus grow out of control, this will fuel anti-semitism.

Deblasio communist elections control
October 5, 2020 4:49 am

It is all about elections, deblasio wants to stop in person voting , so forcing people to mail in ballots so the Democrats could control the elections , stop this closing of new York city

Stick your hand in fire and it burns.
October 5, 2020 7:46 am

It’s that simple.people are not following regulations and are now complaining.
Why is there simchas beis hashoeivo,why are schools and shills not following health regulaions.this is a result of it.1+1=2 not 0. Stop complaining and start doing.gut yom tov.

Anonymous
Reply to  Stick your hand in fire and it burns.
October 5, 2020 11:01 am

No. Please think! you are being played to think that not following the illegal regulations is the reason for the spread and justifies a shutdown as a result. It’s all a lie!

No one ever is allowed to force perfectly healthy people to stop going about their peaceful business for something that will not cause them or the vast majority of ppl to drop dead.

Never mind that shutdowns are not a cure for covid.

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Closing schools
October 5, 2020 7:55 am

Closing schools is very unhealthy for our children.We need to speak up and stop this insanity.Please please is there any way of stoping it.

UnHealthy
Reply to  Closing schools
October 5, 2020 10:08 am

You know what else is unhealthy? Getting covid… and transmitting it to others.

Anonymous
Reply to  UnHealthy
October 5, 2020 11:05 am

Depends for who. And for those people who it is deadly they need to demand access to early treatment instead of harassment of all healthy people. Because early treatment will save their lives a lot faster than forcing everyone to comply with something that is NOT effective.

Stop the spread
Reply to  Anonymous
October 5, 2020 4:28 pm

Are you a medical doctor or virologist? There is not definitive early treatment? It is all experimental and anecdotal at this time. It is also not clear who will get very sick and who will not. A college athlete just died of COVID and a 70 year old man survived it.

Stop the spread
Reply to  Closing schools
October 5, 2020 4:26 pm

Children can thrive in many situations. Form a learning pod. Homeschool. Be creative. Adapt. OUr people have been through wars, famines, plagues, and worse. It can be temporary if you are willing to make the sacrifice.

Learning student
Reply to  Stop the spread
October 6, 2020 11:08 am

No, I can’t learn on zoom school, and ur kids probably hate it too!

8th Grader
Reply to  Closing schools
October 6, 2020 11:07 am

Yes, stopping school has only made my life crazier. Ask anyone in my grade, school is a challenge for everyone! But zoom is pointless, we want structure! If we were told that a test is happening in a week, as odd as this sounds, we need it to happen in a week! If we’re looking forward to production, then it can’t suddenly be taken away from us!

Agreed; its so sad our children are suffering
Reply to  8th Grader
October 6, 2020 3:45 pm

Because instead of adults just doing this simple thing of wearing a mask, they have to see and spin arguments.
Lets just do our part so our kids can do theirs and go back and stay in school.

Openly bias
October 5, 2020 7:56 am

Allowing yourself to be convinced that the mayor and governor have our best interests at heart when they talk about lockdowns is naive at best. Look at the language they use and the way they clearly single out Orthodox Jews. They do not even bother to hide their biases and hate. The anti semitism is clear, but there always has been and will be the Jews who refuse to see it and will make excuses for them, even condoning their behavior, either out of fear and sheepishness or desire to look ‘woke’ and ‘progressive’ and ‘fit in’. Wake up. This… Read more »

Get real
Reply to  Openly bias
October 5, 2020 10:10 am

He’s targeting the Jewish neighborhoods because we are NOT following the rules! And blatantly so. Simchas bais hashoeva all night unmasked?? How long till CH is shut down? Look at our own actions, not at someone “shutting us down for no reason or cuz he’s anti Semitic”

Anonymous
Reply to  Get real
October 5, 2020 11:13 am

We do not consent to these new rules! Our elected officials have zero right to trample on our basic freedom. It’s illegal. We want gvt to be held accountable for their major abuse of power. And yes the masks can be done voluntarily if the individual wants but not if they don’t. It’s really that simple. And no virus changes any of the above. And please remember this virus is very low risk for the vast majority of people especially with access to hydroxychloriquine

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Stop the spread
Reply to  Anonymous
October 5, 2020 4:30 pm

You have been fed misinformation. You are not a medical specialist nor have you spent your life studying viruses. Do you have the right to smoke on an airplane? No. Do you have the right to drive after drinking alcohol? No.

What about Utica Ave
Reply to  Get real
October 5, 2020 2:56 pm

No one is wearing masks over there and the government not bringing that up

99 % of people on Utica ARE wearing masks
Reply to  What about Utica Ave
October 6, 2020 3:43 pm

I live right off of the ave and sorry to inform you this is far from true. Ever since masks have been required the predominant non Jewish community easily took upon themselves this requirement without an issue

He is evil
October 5, 2020 10:19 am

He is not doing this for us.He knows our children are going to suffer ….he knows that it’s terrible for their mental health.He does not care.Its all politics.
Wake up people!

Wear masks, follow guidelines
October 5, 2020 10:25 am

I’m distressed to read such black or white comments. While masks have become political, and keeping schools shut too, it doesn’t mean we don’t need to wear them to keep schools open. We can acknowledge the bias of the government, and also take precautions to ensure we are protecting our community and neighbors. We don’t have strong evidence that masks don’t work at all… this is a new virus. Thankfully treatment is more clear and it’s seems less dangerous but it’s not all or nothing. I wouldn’t want to catch it again. I wasn’t in the hospital but it was… Read more »

Anonymous
Reply to  Wear masks, follow guidelines
October 5, 2020 11:34 am

No sorry I do not agree to being forced to wear a mask. There is sufficient evidence that masks lower your oxygen levels. And I’m at very low risk from the virus. I don’t want to reduce my oxygen levels for something that may remotely help someone else.

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