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to #25
September 25, 2017 11:59 pm

if only you would tap into the inspiration, it’s there. Feel it.

israeli guest 5765-5770
September 25, 2017 6:48 pm

10 years ago this headline would have been a question from a crown heights resident who got in a petty fight with a israeli we all owe a big thank you to rabbi hendel and rabbi altein for going against the popular opinion and taking care of all the guest when no one supported
it boruch hashem now there efforts paid off and everyone is very supportive of the idea

There are both elements at play
September 25, 2017 5:40 pm

First of all, the Mitzvah if Hachnosas Orchim applies whether or not the guest has a good reason for being there.

That said, there is no denying that in the last twenty or so years, coming for Tishrei from Israel has become a culture. Chabad moisdos in Israel basically close their doors for Tishrei, and if you are left behind you are made to feel like some kind of loser.

Only the serious Bachurim should be encouraged to come. The rest have plenty of Shlichus and Mivtzoim to do around the world.

rsp
September 25, 2017 3:55 pm

just like the yidden were olah regal 3 times year .
1. peseach shavous and succos to see and be seen …
so to do we need to olah regal to the rebbe to the 3 places where the rebbe saw us and we saw the rebbe -to see and be seen ohel , 770 and rebbes yehudis room… each place is important not one less or more than the other as explained by our rebid.. taken from a speech from rabbi tzeiltin a”h tsfat…

lets all have avahas yisroel and greet moshiach now!!

29, 30, 31
September 25, 2017 1:47 pm

You are talking about CH or being by the Rebbe?

If a person comes to hang out in CH, you are 100% right. But if someone comes for the right reasons, that it extremely valuable, in fact being by the Rebbe is the one the basics of being a Chossid.

We are not talking about someone who is on Shlichus, obviously they connect to the Rebbe by doing there Shlichus even when far away. We are speaking about Bochurim in their years of youth, they need to take the spirituality in order to have what to give later. וד”ל וק”ל.

Chinuch
September 25, 2017 1:03 pm

As a shliach, I don’t take my kids to CH, I don’t want the pm to see the confusion, the ohel or the Rebbe’s room for a tefilah but that’s it…what goes in 770, for the most part, is very sad…minyanim 20 mins before shkiah on Friday, laining Torah past shkiah, davening with 6 people litchatchila… The people getting drunk, the people who bring their crying kids who al pi Shulchan Aruch should not be there while the minyan is davening,etc.

To 31
September 25, 2017 1:00 pm

So stay in your house in ch forever and never go to the ohel or 770 and then you’ll accomplish the most

Reb Mendel
September 25, 2017 12:44 pm

Rev Mendel Futerfas spent 17 years “away” from his family (and the Rebbeim), even on Tishrei…he later told many people those years he accomplished the most…there are the famous responses that came from the Freidiker Rebbe, that Reb Mendel wrote with machshava, also it is known Gabi and Rivky HD’Y only came back to CH twice in the five years they were in India… The real connection is achieved when you are far…

Terms
September 25, 2017 12:38 pm

a lot of people use the terms “be by the Rebbe” or “plug in”…the Rebbe writes very clearly in Hayom Yom (and other places) how this is done…coming to CH is not listed as one of the ways…in fact some of the most special chassidm and shluchim are almost never in CH, they are at their post, with the Rebbe, fulfilling the shlichus,

In connection to #11
September 25, 2017 12:34 pm

To come to CH, pre 3Tammuz is one thing…now if you want to be by the Rebbe, it’s on shlichus, unfortunately, in some ways CH is the last place you will find the Rebbe

The Rebbe's Daled Amos?
September 25, 2017 12:33 pm

The Rebbe’s Daled Amos are in 770 not the Ohel! the Ohel is a Makom Kodesh as staed by The Rebbe on many occasions but, The Rebbe’s place is in 770 The Rebbe lives in 770 etc, How many times did the Rebbe say his Nesius is an extension of the Friedkier Rebbe & that the Rebbe is till with us such as the sichos on Yaakov Lo mais such as The Sichos of Yud Bais & Tes Vov Tammuz 5745 such as the Zohar stating that B’emes all Tzaddikim are alive?> etc!

Ditto #20
September 25, 2017 11:28 am

You can share in the zchus by helping the Vaad

Vaadhatmimim.org/campaign

We love to see CH full of guests
September 25, 2017 11:02 am

1. Give all bohrim some info how to increase their spiritual life but also include some guidance how to behave physically
2. Pls include all New young Crown heights residents that are not frum and living here , we spot so many on yom tovs that we were shocked

I agree with #11
September 25, 2017 10:47 am

CH is uninspiring these days. Less shrines out of what used to be holy and more mivtzoyim. Save the money you spend on trips to CH and bring YIddishkeit to other Jews instead. Oh, and put that saved money toward tuition.
Gmar chasima tova!

11 yes CH
September 25, 2017 10:41 am

because not every Jew in CH is chabad or even religious…we go to Nepal and Japan but we forget about the unaffiliated Jews in our own neighborhood

I disagree
September 25, 2017 10:20 am

I know ppl who come to ch to be in 770 by the rebbe! Yes today after 3 Tammuz.

#21
September 25, 2017 9:29 am

Optimum words pre gimmel Tammuz

To #11
September 25, 2017 9:09 am

I agree with #13! As a shliach, the bochrim need the hiskashrus now to be equipped to do shlichus later. I was imagining myself in 770 (pre 3 tammuz)throughout RH davening. If i hadn’t been there for just 3 yrs, I wouldn’t have those memories to inspire me. My children grow up out of town in chabad house and need a few yrs of tishrei in 770! Even my 16 yr old daughter went this year.

Very important organization!
September 25, 2017 7:59 am

The vaad is one of the most important organizations today. Bringing Hiskashrus to the Bochurim.

They can use our support!
Vaadhatmimim.org/donate

to 11
September 25, 2017 7:52 am

As a shliach, I humbly disagree
there enough bochrim to do both every bocher most spend a tishri in 770!!!

Joe
September 25, 2017 7:45 am

BS”D to # 11:every person needs to tap into the source, a true Schliach who does the Rebbes poulas understands this, and morover what right do you have to discourage
anyone, I am dubious that you are a real Schliach

To number 11
September 25, 2017 7:31 am

There is a time for everything.
Bochrim need to be by the Rebbe, shlichus is for when you’re married. They need to fill up their tanks now to be shluchim later.
This is always how it was, no need to think we are more enlightened and smarter than the Rebbe and how he set up the system.
And they do go on mivtzoyim around NY.

@11
September 25, 2017 6:22 am

I agree, when you’re on shlichus you’re with the rebbe

# 10
September 25, 2017 4:58 am

Because it is of paramount importance
That is not for us but for Breslov
It is the very essence of their Chassudus
We ought to be very respectful
Reb Nachman was after all a great grand child of the BESHT

אין אנו מניחים אותו
September 25, 2017 12:59 am

Well said. I think we all should pack into the Shul by the Ohel this Yom Kipur and say enough is enough. We want to see the Rebbe. We demand from Hashem to be reunited with our king enough with golis. We want Moshiach now!!!!

To number 11
September 25, 2017 12:24 am

Every Bochur needs a chance to spend time by the Rebbe. This has been the seder from the earliest days. That is where you get the inspiration to give to the people you meet on Shlichus later.

Can we arrange this for non-guests as well?
September 25, 2017 12:06 am

I often need a ride to the ohel and can’t find one….

Shliach Response
September 24, 2017 11:57 pm

As a shliach, I humbly want to say…it’s wrong

There are litterally tens of thousands of Jews that didn’t hear shofar this year and would not go to a Shul but would have heard shofar, bentched of lulav&esrog if someone came to them…

The Rebbe told many people, many times (there is even a well known living Torah video online) that when you go far (on shlichus) you are near (to the Rebbe)

The whole come to CH thing is a waste of money and resources and does not bring Moshiach’s coming closer

While we are at it...
September 24, 2017 11:52 pm

Why do people go to Uman for R”H?

Thank you
September 24, 2017 11:51 pm

A big thank you goes to Rabbi Tzvi Altein who makes this happen every year and is give over the the Vaad bileiv vonefesh and goes to sleep and wakes up with the Vaad first and foremost in his mind.

Amazing!
September 24, 2017 11:46 pm

Most of the bochurim come purely for the chance to be in 770 over Tishrei & to go to the Ohel & experience Tishrei in Crown Heights.

Tishrei in Crown Heights attracts all sorts of people. B”H most are here for the right reasons and it’s amazing that so many gvirim come together to make the experience comfortable. Kol Hakovod!

Wow
September 24, 2017 11:22 pm

This is beautiful!

Very important to have this for the guests, who need to go the ohel but probably can’t afford the full price

To number 1
September 24, 2017 11:18 pm

Of course, I think that is the point of what this is saying – to take the bochurim from 770 for a visit to the ohel

Thank you!
September 24, 2017 11:17 pm

Taking on great expenses to make this all possible.

Thank you to the Vaad Hatmimim, Rabbi Tzvi Altein, and the generous donors.

So true
September 24, 2017 11:14 pm

This is so important, really is the point of it all

what about girls
September 24, 2017 10:51 pm

girls also want a program an busses 2 the ohel!!

This is the reason
September 24, 2017 10:34 pm
The Rebbe's Shul
September 24, 2017 10:22 pm

Each to their Hergish, i say coming to the Rebbe for Tishrei (while of course going to the Ohel too) is The Rebbe’s Shul of course ,& there are plenty of sources for this.

Moshiach Now!

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