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    Why Do the Tishrei Guests Come

    From the COLlive Inbox: As guests for Tishrei continue to flock to New York over 22 years after Gimmel Tammuz, some may wonder why this is necessary. Full Story

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    The Rebbe's Shul
    Guest
    The Rebbe's Shul

    Each to their Hergish, i say coming to the Rebbe for Tishrei (while of course going to the Ohel too) is The Rebbe’s Shul of course ,& there are plenty of sources for this.

    Moshiach Now!

    This is the reason
    Guest
    This is the reason
    what about girls
    Guest
    what about girls

    girls also want a program an busses 2 the ohel!!

    So true
    Guest
    So true

    This is so important, really is the point of it all

    Thank you!
    Guest
    Thank you!

    Taking on great expenses to make this all possible.

    Thank you to the Vaad Hatmimim, Rabbi Tzvi Altein, and the generous donors.

    To number 1
    Guest
    To number 1

    Of course, I think that is the point of what this is saying – to take the bochurim from 770 for a visit to the ohel

    Wow
    Guest
    Wow

    This is beautiful!

    Very important to have this for the guests, who need to go the ohel but probably can’t afford the full price

    Amazing!
    Guest
    Amazing!

    Most of the bochurim come purely for the chance to be in 770 over Tishrei & to go to the Ohel & experience Tishrei in Crown Heights.

    Tishrei in Crown Heights attracts all sorts of people. B”H most are here for the right reasons and it’s amazing that so many gvirim come together to make the experience comfortable. Kol Hakovod!

    Thank you
    Guest
    Thank you

    A big thank you goes to Rabbi Tzvi Altein who makes this happen every year and is give over the the Vaad bileiv vonefesh and goes to sleep and wakes up with the Vaad first and foremost in his mind.

    While we are at it...
    Guest
    While we are at it...

    Why do people go to Uman for R”H?

    Shliach Response
    Guest
    Shliach Response

    As a shliach, I humbly want to say…it’s wrong

    There are litterally tens of thousands of Jews that didn’t hear shofar this year and would not go to a Shul but would have heard shofar, bentched of lulav&esrog if someone came to them…

    The Rebbe told many people, many times (there is even a well known living Torah video online) that when you go far (on shlichus) you are near (to the Rebbe)

    The whole come to CH thing is a waste of money and resources and does not bring Moshiach’s coming closer

    Can we arrange this for non-guests as well?
    Guest
    Can we arrange this for non-guests as well?

    I often need a ride to the ohel and can’t find one….

    To number 11
    Guest
    To number 11

    Every Bochur needs a chance to spend time by the Rebbe. This has been the seder from the earliest days. That is where you get the inspiration to give to the people you meet on Shlichus later.

    אין אנו מניחים אותו
    Guest
    אין אנו מניחים אותו

    Well said. I think we all should pack into the Shul by the Ohel this Yom Kipur and say enough is enough. We want to see the Rebbe. We demand from Hashem to be reunited with our king enough with golis. We want Moshiach now!!!!

     # 10
    Guest
    # 10

    Because it is of paramount importance
    That is not for us but for Breslov
    It is the very essence of their Chassudus
    We ought to be very respectful
    Reb Nachman was after all a great grand child of the BESHT

    @11
    Guest
    @11

    I agree, when you’re on shlichus you’re with the rebbe

    To number 11
    Guest
    To number 11

    There is a time for everything.
    Bochrim need to be by the Rebbe, shlichus is for when you’re married. They need to fill up their tanks now to be shluchim later.
    This is always how it was, no need to think we are more enlightened and smarter than the Rebbe and how he set up the system.
    And they do go on mivtzoyim around NY.

    Joe
    Guest
    Joe

    BS”D to # 11:every person needs to tap into the source, a true Schliach who does the Rebbes poulas understands this, and morover what right do you have to discourage
    anyone, I am dubious that you are a real Schliach

    to 11
    Guest
    to 11

    As a shliach, I humbly disagree
    there enough bochrim to do both every bocher most spend a tishri in 770!!!

    Very important organization!
    Guest
    Very important organization!

    The vaad is one of the most important organizations today. Bringing Hiskashrus to the Bochurim.

    They can use our support!
    Vaadhatmimim.org/donate

    To #11
    Guest
    To #11

    I agree with #13! As a shliach, the bochrim need the hiskashrus now to be equipped to do shlichus later. I was imagining myself in 770 (pre 3 tammuz)throughout RH davening. If i hadn’t been there for just 3 yrs, I wouldn’t have those memories to inspire me. My children grow up out of town in chabad house and need a few yrs of tishrei in 770! Even my 16 yr old daughter went this year.

    #21
    Guest
    #21

    Optimum words pre gimmel Tammuz

    I disagree
    Guest
    I disagree

    I know ppl who come to ch to be in 770 by the rebbe! Yes today after 3 Tammuz.

    11 yes CH
    Guest
    11 yes CH

    because not every Jew in CH is chabad or even religious…we go to Nepal and Japan but we forget about the unaffiliated Jews in our own neighborhood

    I agree with #11
    Guest
    I agree with #11

    CH is uninspiring these days. Less shrines out of what used to be holy and more mivtzoyim. Save the money you spend on trips to CH and bring YIddishkeit to other Jews instead. Oh, and put that saved money toward tuition.
    Gmar chasima tova!

    We love to see CH full of guests
    Guest
    We love to see CH full of guests

    1. Give all bohrim some info how to increase their spiritual life but also include some guidance how to behave physically
    2. Pls include all New young Crown heights residents that are not frum and living here , we spot so many on yom tovs that we were shocked

    Ditto #20
    Guest
    Ditto #20

    You can share in the zchus by helping the Vaad

    Vaadhatmimim.org/campaign

    The Rebbe's Daled Amos?
    Guest
    The Rebbe's Daled Amos?

    The Rebbe’s Daled Amos are in 770 not the Ohel! the Ohel is a Makom Kodesh as staed by The Rebbe on many occasions but, The Rebbe’s place is in 770 The Rebbe lives in 770 etc, How many times did the Rebbe say his Nesius is an extension of the Friedkier Rebbe & that the Rebbe is till with us such as the sichos on Yaakov Lo mais such as The Sichos of Yud Bais & Tes Vov Tammuz 5745 such as the Zohar stating that B’emes all Tzaddikim are alive?> etc!

    In connection to #11
    Guest
    In connection to #11

    To come to CH, pre 3Tammuz is one thing…now if you want to be by the Rebbe, it’s on shlichus, unfortunately, in some ways CH is the last place you will find the Rebbe

    Terms
    Guest
    Terms

    a lot of people use the terms “be by the Rebbe” or “plug in”…the Rebbe writes very clearly in Hayom Yom (and other places) how this is done…coming to CH is not listed as one of the ways…in fact some of the most special chassidm and shluchim are almost never in CH, they are at their post, with the Rebbe, fulfilling the shlichus,

    Reb Mendel
    Guest
    Reb Mendel

    Rev Mendel Futerfas spent 17 years “away” from his family (and the Rebbeim), even on Tishrei…he later told many people those years he accomplished the most…there are the famous responses that came from the Freidiker Rebbe, that Reb Mendel wrote with machshava, also it is known Gabi and Rivky HD’Y only came back to CH twice in the five years they were in India… The real connection is achieved when you are far…

    To 31
    Guest
    To 31

    So stay in your house in ch forever and never go to the ohel or 770 and then you’ll accomplish the most

    Chinuch
    Guest
    Chinuch

    As a shliach, I don’t take my kids to CH, I don’t want the pm to see the confusion, the ohel or the Rebbe’s room for a tefilah but that’s it…what goes in 770, for the most part, is very sad…minyanim 20 mins before shkiah on Friday, laining Torah past shkiah, davening with 6 people litchatchila… The people getting drunk, the people who bring their crying kids who al pi Shulchan Aruch should not be there while the minyan is davening,etc.

    29, 30, 31
    Guest
    29, 30, 31

    You are talking about CH or being by the Rebbe?

    If a person comes to hang out in CH, you are 100% right. But if someone comes for the right reasons, that it extremely valuable, in fact being by the Rebbe is the one the basics of being a Chossid.

    We are not talking about someone who is on Shlichus, obviously they connect to the Rebbe by doing there Shlichus even when far away. We are speaking about Bochurim in their years of youth, they need to take the spirituality in order to have what to give later. וד”ל וק”ל.

    rsp
    Guest
    rsp

    just like the yidden were olah regal 3 times year .
    1. peseach shavous and succos to see and be seen …
    so to do we need to olah regal to the rebbe to the 3 places where the rebbe saw us and we saw the rebbe -to see and be seen ohel , 770 and rebbes yehudis room… each place is important not one less or more than the other as explained by our rebid.. taken from a speech from rabbi tzeiltin a”h tsfat…

    lets all have avahas yisroel and greet moshiach now!!

    There are both elements at play
    Guest
    There are both elements at play

    First of all, the Mitzvah if Hachnosas Orchim applies whether or not the guest has a good reason for being there.

    That said, there is no denying that in the last twenty or so years, coming for Tishrei from Israel has become a culture. Chabad moisdos in Israel basically close their doors for Tishrei, and if you are left behind you are made to feel like some kind of loser.

    Only the serious Bachurim should be encouraged to come. The rest have plenty of Shlichus and Mivtzoim to do around the world.

    israeli guest  5765-5770
    Guest
    israeli guest 5765-5770

    10 years ago this headline would have been a question from a crown heights resident who got in a petty fight with a israeli we all owe a big thank you to rabbi hendel and rabbi altein for going against the popular opinion and taking care of all the guest when no one supported
    it boruch hashem now there efforts paid off and everyone is very supportive of the idea

    to #25
    Guest
    to #25

    if only you would tap into the inspiration, it’s there. Feel it.

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