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    Two Beggars Go Violent

    From the COLlive Inbox: I know that there are sad cases out there, but beggars in Crown Heights seem to have become more aggressive than ever. Full Story, Photos

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    mad!!!! and scared!!!
    Guest
    mad!!!! and scared!!!

    but then today i saw him back on the streets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    guest
    Guest
    guest

    its about time someone locked up this aggressive jerk! i used to give him a quarter or a dime bec i felt bad for him. while i had my suspicions as to where the money was going. then one time he asked me for tzedaka so i proceeded to give him a dollar and asked for 75C chnge to which he said ill give u 50C i said no 75. he hands the chng to me and in the process drops it on the floor. im like waiting for him 2 pick it up which he does and proceeds to… Read more »

    is that the beggar?
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    is that the beggar?

    how could they expose his face

    WoW!
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    WoW!

    ya!!! I’ve seen that man before!!!!!

    time to act
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    time to act

    Police need to enforce pan handling its againts the law

    concerned
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    concerned

    hes a dangerous man i saw him once try to rob the bank on e parkway and kingston

    Drugs
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    Drugs

    He is a drugy, he yelled at my wife so i told him to watch himself he hasent batherd either of us since.
    i have seen him buying drugs down brooklyn ave near the park and museum.

    expose
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    expose

    He is a druge and crimenalits amitzvah to expose him its only way he might get help.

    flo
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    flo

    very sad. hope he gets rehabilitated.

    bary b
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    bary b

    careful ive seen him fite hes a powerful man

    violent drug addict
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    violent drug addict

    He’s a madman!
    When i give change to the homelesses here in LA, I make it clear to them that the money should NOT be used for drugs alcohol cigars..they take my words and know they can always get my change bc thr good men who listen.

    Get this lunatic off the streets before he does permanent damage.

    deran
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    deran

    agree with8

    no, this is sad
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    no, this is sad

    does anyone have a heart? this kid needs help. he could be your son or brother. he is a boy who may have had it rough growing up and now needs counseling, guidance and rehab/detox. it is not a mitzvah to “expose” him. It is a mitzvah for someone who truly cares about their fellow Jew to direct him to the help he needs. my heart breaks for him- dont dole out hatred- help him.

    is he jewish?!?!?
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    is he jewish?!?!?
    hellooooo
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    hellooooo

    BS”D
    he is mentally “challenged”
    and his “stressful lifestyle” is exacerbating it.

    seen before
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    seen before

    wasn’t he arrested before????
    i thought i saw him in handcuffs before.

    ATTN SHLUCHOS
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    ATTN SHLUCHOS

    Shluchos DO NOT give this thief one cent. He AND THE OTHER “Beggars” use the money for bad things too!!!

    DO SOMETHING GOOD AND DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT!
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    DO SOMETHING GOOD AND DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT!

    You all think you are entitled to your money?? god gave it to you in order for you to give it to someone else in need!! Really, who ever asks a beggar for change of a dollar!? give the guy a damn dollar and walk away smile you do not have to be so mean b/c he is diff then you! and honestly will 1 dollar less really bother you? ITS ONE OF THE BIGGEST MITZVOS, even jst to smile when you walk past! and hey if you are worried that he will spend the money on drugs, you see… Read more »

    Can we respect a fellow Jew?
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    Can we respect a fellow Jew?

    This man is a very sick man, and needs to be placed in a proper facility, if he was one of anash, you would never put up his pic, out of respect for the person.

    There are thousands of individuals like him in the city. His ill behavior is a symptom on his illness.

    To concerned mom.
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    To concerned mom.

    First I do not believe that you are of female gender, as if you were, you would have very little contact with the beggars in shul, as they mainly have contact with the men. Secondly the over crowding of homeless and beggars on the avenues are a direct result of the city and state cutting services from, or not keeping up with the natural growth of the needs of mental health consumers. If this is truly a concern of yours I suggest that you contact NAMI and join their petitions and protest. This way your voice will be heard, and… Read more »

     alwayscorrect
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    alwayscorrect

    u cant give this guy a red cent he needs rehab, but howabout that yenta who verbally attacks if u dont give her ,its the lady beggars also making trouble ,sorry ladies

    #13
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    #13

    you took the words right out of my mouth.What kind of society is CH that people dont see beyond the surface??if he is a jew,he should be treated with love.V’ehavta lereacha komocha.I am truly saddened by most of above comments.just remember he is someones son/brother how would you react if it was yours??????I

    chabad wake up
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    chabad wake up

    I hate to be negative here but people live such selfish lives.As long as everything is sweet and on the surface looks good then “dont bother me”I m sure the rebbe would be horrified at this attitude.

    Give the truly needy
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    Give the truly needy

    In many communities of yore the kehilla would have qa fund for charity, and specifically made takonos for people to not give money to charlatans. Why can we not do the same here, and save our dimes and dollars for erliche yidden who are trying to marry off the children in Israel? Even if their stories may be ‘enhanced’ they are at least (obstensibly) shomrei torah uMitzvos. Also, there are often bochrim collecting for mivtzoim or to rent tanks etc. I also wonder about the older Russians collecting tzedakah. Let’s ask the askonim who know the situation with the Russians… Read more »

    ...!!
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    ...!!

    he doesnt LOOK poor….!!

    kinus
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    kinus

    i am going to ny for the kinus hashluchos and i am kinda freaked out

    anon
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    anon

    Buy him and others food, don’t give money…. if they don’t want the food they don’t need the tzedakah

    Its not a Mitzvah to help Drug Addictions
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    Its not a Mitzvah to help Drug Addictions

    1st of all most of these beggars make more money then people who work 40-50 hours a week in a store. They are not poor. Besides many are drug addicts, giving someone money to feed their drug or alcohol addiction is hurting them.

    #26
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    #26

    why are you freaked out??

    to # 11
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    to # 11

    And you think they listen to you? You have no way of knowing what happens as soon as you are out of sight.

    dont give hime money
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    dont give hime money

    they getting arrested every few days for attacking ppl

    chaim ur storyteller
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    chaim ur storyteller

    His Neshama was sent down to this world for a purpose, his purpose may be to give us a test to see if we have Ahavas Yisroel or not.

    Fellow Yids; Let us not fail this test, for all we know he may be a Hidden Sadik or he may even be Moshiach.

    For 70 80 years a Neshama wears and tears just to do a favor for another, love him with all your heart.

    after all
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    after all

    the store owner had to pay for the window $700 who els is going to pay for it get them of the streets fast

    ch man
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    ch man

    that y i dont give to these ppl i rather give it to devorah b or rabbi leider at least i know the money going to the right ppl who need it

    Stop bashing
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    Stop bashing

    He is a jew and needs help
    I understand that he cannot stay on the street the wayhe was but do not forget he is one of us and we have to care for him as well
    Arevim Ze La Ze

    Superman
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    Superman

    This guy has to be put away and/or taken out of CH for good. Why wait till somebody gets hurt or even badly done. This community has to worked together, but then again it’s CH, what do you expect?

    Boruch N. Hoffinger              BS"D
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    Boruch N. Hoffinger BS"D

    Wow! Amazing responses! #32 chaim ur storyteller: Fantastic imagination! Think! Would ‘Moshiach’ violate The Torah?! I think this guy is Israeli, spoke to him once…sad and tragic..painful… Simple answer to all this…if this was YOUR son, brother, close friend and, since you love him so much, you suspect, but are unsure if he uses drugs, or alcohol, would you give him money, making his life more miserable? #18’s reply was smart: buy him food. Besides, one who seeks to help him/herself receives help. There’s a community council, welfare, organizations, etc. I don’t believe in ‘homlessness,’ unless it’s a very unusual… Read more »

    Beggars my  *%^!#, This are real criminals walking our streets
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    Beggars my *%^!#, This are real criminals walking our streets

    Why do we support them? specialy when good people from our own community are in desperate need, our yeshivos, rabbeim, teachers, so many right next to us.
    This individual are taking advantage from our good harts.
    Please stop supporting them, they will go away.
    This are hard core dangerous and unstable individuals.
    STOP SUPPORTING THEM NOW

    Someone who knows him....
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    Someone who knows him....

    He regularly signs himself out of rehab and then panhandles to feed his drug habit. Since his birth and the few years that he attended the local Yeshiva here, help was offered to the family. The mother became a “meshumad,” and her son a drug-addict.

    #37 chaim hoffinger
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    #37 chaim hoffinger

    your comments seem to imply something very wrong here.Firstly you put down #32 for saying he just needs help.WHY? If you say there is a system in place to look after him where are they??I live in London and have never witnessed a jewish person collecting money outside a store. And then you infer that the guy has sinned and therefore he must be crazy!!!!!! I find it a violation of the torah and hashems name to say those things.Interesting that there seems to be little compassion or selflessness in your letter. Honestly,some of these comments appear to be by… Read more »

    get rid of him
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    get rid of him

    the guy is dangerouse i know a number of people including myself who he has threatened he hangs around the streets late at night when no one is around and could really hurt somone maybe the shomrim or someone like them can realy take care of him

    2 sides
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    2 sides

    I don’t know the particulars of this case, but I think there are 2 very valid sides here and a balanced approach must consider both. On the one hand, we can’t stop giving every beggar because a few are doing things that are wrong. On the other hand, can we give this particular one money when we know he will use it to hurt himself? The man needs care – I think that’s obvious. However, it should be noted that it is easier said than done. I’m not sure any of you realize the complex laws involved in committing someone… Read more »

    horrible
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    horrible

    I agree with #18. What kind of nerve does someone have to even think of asking a poor man for change?! And yes, he may be using it for drugs, so rather than give $$ altogether, give the guy a sandwich.

    jewish?
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    jewish?

    is this man jewish?

    again
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    again

    he was arrested AGAIN today.
    will prob be back tomorrow

    offering food instead
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    offering food instead

    although, sometimes they don’t accept that either…
    whatever the case, aren’t you supposed to give anyone that asks because they are going through the humiliation of asking?

    jewish!!!
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    jewish!!!

    #37
    yes he is Jewish he is a vary close friend of mine

    ????
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    ????

    it said beggarS…. wheres the other one?

    ????
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    ????

    48
    the other begger is the one with the blood on his hand

    to #38
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    to #38

    Well said. If only everybody else here would wake up

    is that the guy...
    Guest
    is that the guy...

    who always sais TZEDAKA in like a funny tone one time he starts telling me how much i should give him i was like Excusmeeeee!? 🙂

    its such a good idea!!
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    its such a good idea!!

    i think that jail is the place where they belong the comments they tell people in the street if they don’t get money they curse people i once got cursed by a lady because i didn’t give her anything when i happened to have no money then but i decided not to give and also once i went to kol tuv at night and that guy who went to jail because i didnt give him money he fallowed me and he was yelling at me and going crazy!! im very happy he is in jail he asked for it and… Read more »

    Victim
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    Victim

    All of you self -righteous people commenting here from the safety of your homes.
    This thug physically assaults people on a daily basis and you have the NERVE to quote lines like “see the inside”.
    Stop judging the people of crown heights for wanting to protect their wives and children.
    One real encounter with him and the other druggies flooding our streets and you’ll see how fast you change your mind.

    oy vay
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    oy vay

    who got blood?

    beggars go crazy
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    beggars go crazy

    he was back on the streets today i saw him today

    number thirteen
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    number thirteen

    on target
    that is what i would like to say
    let us remember that we all our responsible for each other , we all one
    thank you ,

    Naive Crown Heighters
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    Naive Crown Heighters

    Anyone that has ever left Crown Heights takes one look at this guys and knows that he is addicted to drugs. SIlly people in CH think that they must give money to anyone who asks and don’t think they are responsible for what happens. This guy anyone with a little common sense knows is using the money for drugs. And what about the russian mafia in 770? Why in the world do people give them money? Don’t you see that i’ts a mafia, they come all together at the same time off the subway, work the same hours, have the… Read more »

     Dangerous :-()-: suoregnaD
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    Dangerous :-()-: suoregnaD

    The need of protection is out of doubt. I hope it (the protection) will give satisfaction to everybody. Unfortunately, some people need money to protect themselves and some other to endanger the others.

    To number one!
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    To number one!

    you saw him in the streets after the arrested him.

    thats why
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    thats why

    i dont live in ch!

    #47
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    #47

    If he’s such a good friend of yours why don’t you get him some help?

    Att #7
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    Att #7

    and how do you know where the drug selling locations are?

    TO 47
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    TO 47

    you shouldn’t have a friend who is friends with a drug addict

    just a comment
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    just a comment

    I am not sure, but someone asked me for tzedaka today (Sunday) on Kingston and I thought it looked like him.

    #37!!!
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    #37!!!

    teach him to have good middos

    hu
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    hu

    probably on streets again next day

    Is he jewish?
    Guest
    Is he jewish?

    some people say that he isnt a jew…

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