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Tishrei Guests in New York Aren’t Allowed Smartphones

A question of connectivity: Chabad bochurim spending Tishrei as guests in New York won't be allowed to use a smartphone with internet access. Full Story

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Whatever...eyes rolled
September 20, 2019 3:42 pm

Can’t wait for that special day, when the current Hanhalei Yeshivos take their buried heads out of the sand.
Does anyone today, just not want to acknowledge the black market operating in every (good) Yeshiva today, where any/every bochur can/does purchase an full featured, unfiltered smartphone complete with unlimited service? That’s right parents! Either you know about it, or don’t know about. The facts remain the same.
Now how about a realistic and practical way to deal with it?
-PH

Doesnt change the fact
Reply to  Whatever...eyes rolled
September 21, 2019 5:48 am

They shouldnt be allowed.

What are your suggestions?
Reply to  Whatever...eyes rolled
September 21, 2019 8:09 pm

No, seriously. Do you have any suggestions of realistic and practical ways to deal with it? Because, as you say, its a real problem!

Trust issues
Reply to  What are your suggestions?
September 22, 2019 3:17 am

Maybe they shouldn’t come to NY if you can’t trust them while they are unsupervised

Actually yes!
Reply to  What are your suggestions?
September 26, 2019 10:10 am

There is a solution! By withholding smartphones completely, bochruim who use it for good, either learning, calling home, or mivtzoyim suffer. If there is a Mashkon one wishes to pay to have a phone that can be one solution. The ultimate solution is to educate them what is on the internet and what can be bad about it, and how to use it. When it comes to smoking, driving, or owning a gun we educate our kids on how to treat these things, the good and the bad. Giving them a tool to help them navigate this will be the… Read more »

Ddf
September 20, 2019 5:33 pm

Why can’t they get a phone from tag

Work with the Bouchrim, not against them
September 20, 2019 6:02 pm

Whilst there is a problem with having internet access, this won’t work. It’s just like guns in the US. if you ban guns – the bad guys will still have. So too here, they should not be outlawing smartphones – those that want one will have one either way – but now without a filter/supervision. What they should be doing is having all the Bouchrim give in their smartphones – they’ll make sure they have filters, and they should give it in during Sedorim. On a second note, everyone knows that filters are not the best, and that there’s always… Read more »

Thanks for that info.
Reply to  Work with the Bouchrim, not against them
September 21, 2019 11:36 pm

Always looking for good apps for m my kids phones. Will check these out…

Title is accurate
September 20, 2019 6:03 pm

“Tishri guests in New York aren’t allowed smartphones” – but you can bet that won’t stop anyone

Number one said it. Anyone that wants one will have one whether that’s in yeshiva at home or by the rebbe for Tishri for that mattter. And nobody can stop them. Anyone that thinks they can is living in the clouds

The truth is “trying to stop them” is an awfully useless outdated approach
Time to find a new way to deal with this challenge

Good luck to all those involved

Naive
September 21, 2019 9:00 pm

And you believe this. Ever hear of having 2 phones 1 kosher 1 not so kosher. Hello wake up and smell the coffee burning LOL

Take a stand!
Reply to  Naive
September 23, 2019 4:55 pm

True, people can have two phones.
We can’t control people.
It will safeguard only some.
At least the organization has a standard.
I wish camps and schools did the same.

B"H
September 22, 2019 4:29 am

This is such a great thing. Yes, of course they know this will not prevent every Bochur from having a smartphone – they aren’t stupid. A – this will certainly keep a percentage of Bochurim more focused during this Ruchniesdike time and that’s amazing. B – it’s setting a standard – am expectation however Bochurim decide to conduct themselves they should know that the ‘standard’ is to not have a smartphone it shouldn’t be ignored because “it’s anyways not going to work” this is not to rid them of all smartphone. This is to announce that during Tishrei- time with… Read more »

from what i understood...
September 22, 2019 10:18 am

the article isn’t saying about blocking inappropriate things, it’s talking about the bochurim wasting their time on their phones on the internet.

Heshy
September 23, 2019 2:53 am

There are ways for one to avoid being exposed to connecting and destroying ones mind through the internet. First of all bochurim don’t need smartphones. They can use kosher phones. Business people can filter through TAG in whatever level they need to. The real danger of the internet is people being exposed to atheism. I have met chassidim with streimels who became atheists but still dress Chassidish. I asked them what happened. They told me that years ago you had to go to college to learn atheism and evolution. Now they picked it up on the internet. Some people who… Read more »

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