Let me begin by saying that I have no doubt as to the sincere motivation of all who are serving in community posts today. That includes the rabbonim as well as the netzigim, gabboyim and vaad hakohol, Shomrim and Shmira etc.
However, something is just not working in Crown Heights. I have not lived there in some time, but even when I left, the beauty and kedusha of Kan Tziva Hashem es haBrocho, of the Rebbe’s Daled Amos, was obscured by physical decline that mirrored the societal and spiritual decline which is sadly gaining a greater and greater foothold in Crown Heights.
We are beset by problems of children going off the derech, of adults who are barely hanging on physically as well as spiritually, of rising crime, and of a general atmosphere of decline. Then there is the problem of tznius which deserves separate mention, though sadly it is a problem throughout Chabad and not only in Crown Heights.
770, Beis Chayeinu, Beis Rabbeinu ShebBovel, is in a horrendous physical state, and it has sadly become the venue for weekly, if not daily, machloikes and infighting that has even ended in violence. Imagine the impression this makes on people who come to seek Yiddishkeit and true spirituality in Crown Heights, especially if they are sent to the shchuna by shluchim of the Rebbe throughout the world who remember what 770 and Crown Heights once were and know what they should really be.
And one of the reasons given by those who are in spiritual decline, no matter their age, is that if our so called leaders are spending all of their time arguing and involved in shady deals (real or imagined), then there really is chas vesholom no reason to strive in ruchnius because in the end it is chas vesholom all a scam.
This must stop, and sadly anyone who is now involved in community leadership through certain institutions is perceived, rightly or wrongly, as a part of the problem, even if his honest and sincere intention was to be part of the solution. That includes candidates in today’s contested elections, whether or not they have served in the past and no matter their records during past service.
Therefore, the only solution is a complete and radical overhaul of the leadership structure of Crown Heights, or, in plain street English, we need to throw them all out and start over again.
I know that this will be very difficult, but we cannot go down the same slippery slope of destruction that we have been descending for all too long now. For some reason, the present structure is not working, and the present system has to be changed to allow fresh faces to stem the decay.
So, as radical as it sounds, EVERYONE must be removed from their present positions and an interim leadership, beholden to no one and strictly accountable to the community, must be established.
Yes, the whole Beis Din must go; I know that in the case of one dayan whose service goes back to the time before Gimmel Tammuz, this is very difficult but as his name is so tarnished at this point, he must be at the very least given a paid sabbatical and a position of rabbinical advisor which would entail serving the community without any particular authority.
An interim Beis Din, consisting perhaps of rabbonim from outside Crown Heights or of qualified rabbonim who have not held official positions in the shchuna, would have to be established to hear dinei Torah and to clean up the present problems with kashrus (or, hopefully, to declare once and for all that the CHK hechsher is indeed up to standards and to make it clear that political statements against it are simply loshon horo with no basis in halacha, and therefore ossur). It would be monitored by a community body which would be responsible for paying necessary salaries as well as being sure that shylas are being answered in a timely manner by accessible rabbonim and that no questions of being nogeia bedovor arise in the case of particular dinei Torah.
The community body would be made up of volunteers who would represent groups with a real stake in the success of Crown Heights, such as respected local Anash merchants, mechanchim, rabbonim of the newer shuls who do not have a history with the Netzigim, successful businessmen with no record of shenanigans having to do with local property, civil servants with connections in the city, state and federal bureaucracy, and just plain Anash with ahavas Yisroel and a desire to serve. An outside body would have to screen the volunteers for various reasons; this body can be made up of shluchim and rabbonim from out of town or even be a professional firm or psychology practice which handles screenings (if such a thing exists).
This body would be responsible for taking care of the physical aspects of the community; paying the rabbonim as mentioned above, attracting any available government aid to beautify the shechuna, assisting the most needy members of the community through well administered tzedoko and gemach funds as well as through proper dealings with Jewish and general poverty and medical relief funds, immigrant aid and the like. It would also set up programs for youth in distress and for adults who are questioning or falling through the cracks – in short everything the Vaad HaKohol tried to do but never quite did. And it would foster a spirit of “ish es reehu yaazoiru,” or volunteerism, where people would know that they could put their talents to use in bettering their community in various ways, from assisting a family that is following to even physical work repairing an old community building that could become a lounge for youth etc. This body would also have to deal with the infighting between Shomrim and Shmira, and appoint a police liaison who presents a unified voice and leads a new, unified patrol, made up of the best members of the present forces as well as new volunteers. Ideally, every block would have a volunteer street patrol, under police auspices and with police training, and if it included decent Black residents of Crown Heights as well, it might even be more effective as they have less patience for hooligans than we do.
As for the netzigim and gabboyim, the former would need to be replaced by the body above so as not to breed too many organizations, and the latter by a volunteer and grass roots “Vaad Beis Chayenu”, representing both Yechi and non-Yechi daveners and including those who are concerned about 770 and can be of assistance even if they do not live in Crown Heights. The Vaad would be charged with the task of returning order to 770, removing the elements which cause physical damage and violence, and somehow setting up a schedule which allows for both Yechi and non-Yechi daveners to feel comfortable. Ideally, cleanup would make it possible to fundraise for an enlarged 770 that would allow for separate minyonim that would be the responsibility of community mashpiim who would in turn set the tone of their particular minyonim with shiurim, speeches, kiddushim etc.
I would also hope that the new bodies would spearhead the formation of a cadre of real Chassidishe mashpiim who would take it upon themselves to raise the spiritual level of Crown Heights through shiurim and other activities that keep the flame of Chassidus going and help people internalize it in these days of doubled darkness that must be turned into light.
What is most important is that all the kingmakers, no matter their intentions, must be removed from the system during this period. Everyone who serves must be accountable only to the community at large, or to a specific segment of the community that truly has special needs, such as immigrants or youth at risk. And anyone who even thinks to use his volunteer position as a way to personal gain would have to be removed very quickly and very decisively.
Assuming this is feasible (and I know that some of the details are sketchy; I left Kan Tziva several years ago and do not remember all of the various functions, or malfunctions, of the present leadership bodies in Crown Heights), it would ideally be a temporary, 2-5 year situation which would then make it possible to hold elections for elected versions of the new leadership structures. And elections would mean term limits, audits, open book policies, referendums and all other checks and balances needed to ensure a well functioning community.
I know that what I propose is very difficult. Maybe I have some or all of the technical details wrong; I don’t mind someone correcting me so that we can come to another, more workable plan. But we Lubavitchers have done many things that the world had deemed impossible when it comes to helping our fellow Jew. Now it is time to direct our special Lubavitch koichos inside, to the Rebbe’s very own shechuna.
Disclaimer: I do not live in Crown Heights anymore and have no family there. I have no vested interest in the present system or in a new system; I just want to see the heiliger Yidden who live in Crown Heights living in the atmosphere that the Rebbe wants for us, so that when Moshiach stands up on the gag bais hamikdash, he will see what a great job we did to bring him here!
the author seems very offended by your positive spin!
it sounds like the times of moshiach
hatzlacha rabah!
hi, u dont no what ur talking about
Sorry to say, but 48 (which is a repost of 37) and 49 both look like the ravings of any one of a number of slightly off center people who hang around the Kosel – or Times Square. Regardless of there being chaos as Moshiach approaches, it is still our responsibility to do what we can to stop machloikes between Yidden. So, 50, we are the luckiest generation in that our reward for trying our best to light a candle in the midst of this darkness will indeed be the greatest ever – but we still have to light that… Read more »
thanks for the bigger pic! your right! unless judaism and chasidus is a fraud!
all this darkness chutzpo and lack of leadership is exactly the description of the last days before geoola!
u guys neeeed some desperate PERSPECTIVE!
ALL THIS “LEADERLESSNESS” IS PREDICTED 2000 YRS AGO
TAKE IT EASY! IT MEANS THAT THE REST OF THE PREDICTIONS ARE ALSO 100%
HANG ON, (AND SHAPE UP, BEFORE IT HAPPENS) THERE NEVER EVR EVER BE ANOTHER CHANCE TO BE READY… NOW IS YOUR LAST CHANCE!
35 MAMISH KFIRA!!!! the rebbeh ain’t as irresponsible as u accuse!! the rebbeh never made an error, as the moshe of our generation, if moshe was subject to human error, it follows that the accuracy of the Torah is also, in question. learn a bit re “vayaminu bahashem, U’VeMOSHEH avdo” what that intails! you will discover that if yidishkeit is real!! then This “leaderless period” is almost over, to be ended by the fulfillment of the Rebbe’s promises! so please tone down your g-dless hashkofo, …your faithless scheptisism or ignorance in the Rebbe’s statements re the age we live in,… Read more »
it says in pirkei avos which we are reading now that you can talk all day but the most important is the action sooooo everybody stop talking look at your self and look what you can do to change crown heights[ you might think what you do doesnt change the situation, because im only one person, but if every body takes a hachlata than we could change the situation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNFORTUNATEL, WE LIVE IN A DISPOSABLE SOCIETY, ITS SO MUCH EASIER TO BUY PAPER PLATES AND CHUCK IT IN THE GARBAGE THAN ACTUALLY HAVE TO CLEAN IT IN A SINK OR A DISHWASHER, I THINK IT’S A SIMILAR THING WITH THE BEIS-DIN, CROWN HEIGHTS, ETC. IT’S SO EASY TO SAY “CHUCK THEM OUT AND START ANEW”, I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A VALID APPROACH ACCORDING TO YIDDISHKEIT, I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO DO TESHUVA, MAYBE THE TSHUVA THAT THE REBBE SAID WE DID WAS THE TSHUVA KLOLI (general), BUT MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE A TSHUVA… Read more »
https://collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=3562
I THINK ITS VERY EYE OPENING (THE LINK THAT IS)
The problem won’t be fixed with any of the above and making 2, 3, 4 different organizations, counsels, panels, batei din, etc. will have no effect and will only widen the conflict. The Rebbe’s backyard is burning and we’re all sitting quietly by as we all go to save our own rearends. Nobody has the guts to take the bull by the horns! There’s only 1 way, the way it was always done in Lubavitch and done as well within the official Lubavitch organization and mosdos, like it or not, and it’s difficult sometime’s, but here we see the genius… Read more »
First you sound like you are ignoring the obvious. Its great your daughter loves the shiurim. It shows you did a great job with her. How long will that last when she sees the way the kids dress and the way they behave? Your daughter may not – please G-d ever be part of ,or included in the problems but , you must see that our kids there and out of town are slipping and chas ve shalom falling and we all must take reponsibility , the embarressment to the Rebbe and ourselves is great – when we dicuss these… Read more »
This is soooooooo wrong, study, learn, read what the Rebbe OBM wrote.
Rabbi Halpern is invlolved with the kashrus in london
OK if you really need a name call me Moishe. Then everyone can decide whether I am Moishe Rabbeinu, Moishe Siechmach or Moishe Kapoyer or all 3…:))) Seriously: #27, not sure what you mean but I agree fully that positions should be democratically elected after a transition period where volunteers set up new guidelines and new structures. Again not sure what you mean but I am only suggesting that the present long serving elected rov be given a sabbatical as indeed his status goes back to Gimmel Tammuz but he has been so maligned that he needs a break and… Read more »
I in no way meant that the Rebbe OBM made a mistake, only that we have the obligation to “find a teacher”. I realize that many of you believe in the return of the Rebbe, but this to me is too much like another story that took place over 2000 years ago. I just don’t understand. I think that we are spending too much time looking backwards instead of looking ahead and securing a future for not just those of us who live in CH but for all Chabad and Yidden alike.
Koovod harabonim should be respected
the rebbeh never made an error, as the moshe of our generation, if moshe was subject to human error, it follows that the accuracy of the Torah is also, in question. learn a bit re “vayaminu bahashem, U’VeMOSHEH avdo” what that intails! you will discover that if yidishkeit is real!! then This “leaderless period” is almost over, to be ended by the fulfillment of the Rebbe’s promises! so please tone down your g-dless hashkofo, …your faithless scheptisism or ignorance in the Rebbe’s statements re the age we live in, and begin lighting up your “gloomy” perspective and dark depressive mindset… Read more »
The only thing that will help Crown Heights at this time is to find a teacher, we need a person in leadership who can educate and communicate and bring us back together again. I read “Is this what the Rebbe wants?” We don’t know, unfortunately, the Rebbe OBM did not choose anyone to follow in his footsteps, he did not mention or choose a teacher, a leader for our community. It is time that we come together and realize that unless we come together, realize that the Rebbe OBM, who was a great tzaddik, is not going to raise from… Read more »
Wow,
this is almost exactely what I suggested ,pple started looking at me like crazy,but I don’t care, I am not blind I can see this terrible situation
I think that the change is more simple than ppl think
it should start working the new BD and then , to designate the new candidats, and ,win the next elections. The new BD should work as the other BD does not exist and not to enter in any discussion. Ths example, will ,little by little turn ppl, to the new BD.
The terrible machlokos started in full force with the crazy referendum to elect rabbi Schwei. As one who did vote for him I was fooled like most of the community that he was there to assist rabbi Osdoba. Nothing was further from the truth. The whole plan was to destroy rabbi Osdoba. This is the whole truth. Now we must rid ourseves of this so we can all live bsholom
I’m a young man who wanted to make a difference and volunteer to help when ever, where ever (any time any place) every Jew no matter who. So I joined Shomrim. In Shomrim I found a group (or they found me) of people just like me, who want to help, who want to make a difference. This is just who we are (we don’t do what we do because we are in a group that does these thing, it’s because we do thing that we found (came together) and formed a group. The sad thing is, I never did anything… Read more »
HELLOOOOOOOO! Last night on Dov Hikind’s radio show he mentioned the elections in CH and also added that interestingly that in the neighborhoods of Boro Park and Flatbush there are no such elections. It would be nice to know what they do to function as a community.!! Because CH is not a community! It is mainly a group of special interests that jockey for positions of power. The same old same old “the rich get richer and the poor don’t receive what they need.” There were a few people who used to wake up every morning and say who are… Read more »
A profesional positive and realistic outlook on the situation.
This week the Hamodia Magazine had a beautiful article about Rabbi Halpern of England . I was very impressed at how much he does for his community. He gets involved in the Chinuch ,shalom Bais ,and many other areas. I don’t think he is involved in” KASHRUS” It seems that all our Rabbonim care about is the Kashrus of FOOD not the Kashrus of our Chinuch. What have they done about it? If I were them I would say “We as Rbbonim Failed”let younger Rabbonim who are more in touch with reality take our place. Every child that goes off… Read more »
I applaud the author for his good will. When the rebbe called for electing Rabbonim, he said he wanted democratic style elections. So that it should be the will of the community, and ppl will never be able to say I don’t want him, what will you say to the Rebbe. It is clear from the Rebbes answers and directives for the first election that the Rebbe saw this coming, and for this reason he wanted elections. You must understand whenever there is a din torah there will be one side not happy. Burying the rov is doing it to… Read more »
this fantasy you describe, is not only highly impractical. its a recipe for total anarchy, even worse than exists now
Mr. “anonymous” can accomplish nothing! You want to accomplish anything at all, put a name and a person behind your suggestions, articles, advice, etc.
Maybe such a split would force changes along the lines I propose as people would get totally fed up with the status quo and/or the chaos of 2 councils would mean a total collapse that would be the impetus for total change. And there is indeed a middle way if we get a council that can work together – that said council becomes the ones who listen to the people and make the necessary changes, maybe not as radical as I propose but radical enough to prevent the chilul Hashem of court cases, the people slipping through etc and letting… Read more »
Why did you leave? If you care about us all so much, get back here. Put your money where your mouth is. You’d have more credibility if you actually lived here & suffered like the rest of us.
Sadly, the very use of almost shows that for one young person who apparently wanted to make a change, the system did NOT work.
Pie in the sky? Our very survival as Yidden, let alone as Chassidim, in 5769 against all the odds is bigger pie in the sky than anything discussed here!
Politics are the way things get done. They become bad when they involve personal attacks. I daven every day in 770 and in general it is a very warm place where people know each other in spite of its size and where people help each other. There are problems with certain radical elements but they are very small and getting smaller. Most people are somewhere near the center on the issues that we disagree about and are certainly capable of getting together. Today’s election may help, with a new start at the council inspiring the Rabbonim to work things out… Read more »
Please respect my desire for anonymity. I dislike personal publicity, am not doing this to get attention, and my name means little to most people in the community in any case.
When and if we have more of a discussion forum I will identify myself as necessary. I am not afraid of anything, I have no vested interests, and rest assured that I am not planning to arrive in CH in a tank and pull off a coup :).
For now all I need to say is that I am a former CH resident living outside the US.
Yes, you are 100% right and thank you for your support as well as your bringing it to the next level. The first step is indeed to set the criteria for the leadership before selecting the leadership itself. So I would still propose starting with volunteers who are more of a cleanup crew and they would be the ones who would start working on the immediate problems while setting up the criteria for referendum or some other form of community wide decision.
Squaring the circle is exactly what the Rebbe did when he told us not to abandon Crown Heights (let alone so many of the other things he told us and the Frierdiker Rebbe’s making it clear that “amerike is nit anderish”!
please ID your self
Dont you see who your neighbors are? Dont you see what is going on in the neighbors home , the one that shares your backyard wall with? The rabbi shocked, answers him, I live hear for 20 years and I never noticed anything, you are here for 1 day and you already see …….!?! ————— Ah, but what I see is not what you think I see. Judging from your comments compared to those of others, I think you mistakenly seized upon my mentioning visiting shluchim being less than impressed with CH these days, which may not be the case… Read more »
I think the key is to utilize the system in place to engender reform. The fact that the majority of today’s candidates have never been involved in community politics before is an encouraging sign. We need to encourage youth, i.e. 30 somethings, to get involved in the process. Kudos to candidates Bialestok and Tamir (almost) for their participation. There is no mechanism by which to carry out your suggestion; therefore, we must take advantage of the existing system in conjunction with a grassroots effort to elect leadership we can count on.
MOSHIACH IS COMING
GET EXCITED!
The problems cited are not unigue to Crown Heights and this week Parsha indicated that every Jewish person is important. It’s nothing new that young people especially have a need to find themselves—and fitting into an exact mold of what they should be doing is too much to expect. We have to respect individuality within the framework of proper observance. Maybe we can find experts to help but—basically the only way to change someone is for that person to want to—Crown Heights is a microcosm of any community although because the Rebbi is so strongly felt there -could set an… Read more »
you are living in a dream.
it is impossible to square the circle.
assuredly the devil is in the details, but it would be great to start from scratch. there’s the chicken /egg problem – who decides who decides what? if some or many decide to do x, what makes their decision binding on those who don’t agree? You first have to establish “community” – what constitutes the community? what exactly is a “crown heights jewish comunity resident”? (gender, age, social status, length and type of residency) who decides this? Then you have to establish its laws of government – what is their scope of power and authority? how does one become a… Read more »
Impressive and well thought, but who would have the power to oust the present leadership? You make it sound easy, but we know that in reality the chances of this happening are practically nil!!
Wow! never heard of the saying tracht gut vet zain gut? I didnt know a chosid can be so negative…… im an out of towner who sent my daugther to CH. She is thrilled , with shiurim every day, farbrengens going on all the time…she really has grown so much in all aspects. I have also brought in groups from out of town with all of them having such an uplifting experience in 770 and the shechuna. And no im not left or right. You remind me of the story told of someone who came to town on a visit… Read more »
problem of tznius starts with kids getting sent out (kicked out for good ) of school for no reason
and for the schools who sent out letters to the parents not to send there kid(s) back for the upcoming year should send an apology letter to those parents for what they did .
by sending those letters to the parents will make this really bad like drugs and……..
its time for new fresh start in our schools .
CH is not a big enough community for a split like that. And is that what the Rebbe wants? The only split should be between the 95% of us who want things to go right and the loud 5% who thrive on the present machloikes. A properly run community would allow for differences of opinion, such as legitimate differences of practice regarding Yechi, to be expressed within an overall framework and atmosphere of unity. It would allow for multiple minyanim and multiple shuls and multiple events (not at the same time) with multiple rules so long as the standards were… Read more »
this is genius!
Split Everything It Works In Williabsbug And in Boro park
2 or 3 or 4 Beth din ect..
I agree we need to clean up fast
I submitted this as an outsider, knowing that we need to discuss who is needed to carry this out as well as how exactly to do it. So, it is up to all of us to make sure that it does not become “another stupid op-ed”. And while comment 1 is very harsh, it may indeed be that the present “leadership” needs to be marginalized and removed as forcibly as possible without resorting to mesira and illegal tactics as has sadly been the case in the past. I would be happy to set up an anonymous forum in conjunction with… Read more »
great vision… any ideas who could carry this through? Or is this just another stupid op-ed from which no one will benefit…
I have trouble believing such a “house cleaning” would ever happen.
I promise you that the *leadership* would rather burn down the community than to give up their *control*