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There’s a Doctors Crisis in Crown Heights

From the COLlive inbox: A Crown Heights mother was sitting in the doctor's waiting room for her appointment and came to a realization about a problem that has just become worse with a recent passing. Full Story

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Aron
January 12, 2022 1:42 pm

Its about to get a lot worse when the office on Kingston Ave moves to East New York and Schenectady…

Charlie
Reply to  Aron
January 12, 2022 2:11 pm

It will only get better, personally I go to ODA (the place that’s taking over the management) and the doctor’s there run on time, they know how to manage a office there.

No no
Reply to  Aron
January 12, 2022 2:22 pm

Everyone needs to relax we got dozens of Lubavitchers in med school and pa and nursing school

To "No no"
Reply to  No no
January 12, 2022 2:43 pm

To “No no” that is BH Beautiful, But we need to do something to encourage all the dozens of Lubavitchers to work with our Crown Heights Community, Or at least at the very minimum to work by another From Community in Brooklyn, Which would make them in many ways a “Rofeh Yedid” to lots of Hidden, weather from our CH Community or other from communitys. instead of taking jobs by some big hospital in Manhattan etc

Personal experience
Reply to  To "No no"
January 12, 2022 6:47 pm

I work in healthcare in a Jewish place and the pay is terrible. Maybe but across the board but it’s a factor.

which office is moving?
Reply to  Aron
January 12, 2022 2:25 pm

please share

Crown heights
January 12, 2022 1:47 pm

Thats why i dont use a doctor in crown heights
I go to bp and i have appointment they see you on time and i am home if i went to the doctor here they are never on time its faster for me to go to bp .

Nobody wants to work in CH
January 12, 2022 1:50 pm

Everyone has medicaid. Medicaid does not Pay doctors well. Accordingly the salaries of doctors in CH are lower and the revenue of the offices is lower as well. I have good insurance and I never go to CH doctors.

What??
Reply to  Nobody wants to work in CH
January 12, 2022 2:59 pm

Everyone does not having Medicaid. Just saying never did
What is ODA?

Yep
Reply to  Nobody wants to work in CH
January 12, 2022 3:13 pm

Yep

Exactly
Reply to  Nobody wants to work in CH
January 12, 2022 3:56 pm

This is the truth.

True story
Reply to  Nobody wants to work in CH
January 12, 2022 4:40 pm

People want to go where the money is.

Crown heights
Reply to  Nobody wants to work in CH
January 12, 2022 5:45 pm

Not true medicaid is a gold card theypayfor everything

Medicaid gold card? Ha!!
Reply to  Crown heights
January 12, 2022 8:45 pm

They may pay for everything for the patient but they certainly don’t reimburse me for everything and I have to meet my overhead costs. I own a Family Practice in Massachusetts and many will not take Medicaid but I do.

Response
Reply to  Medicaid gold card? Ha!!
January 13, 2022 4:13 pm

Exactly

Response
Reply to  Crown heights
January 13, 2022 4:12 pm

They don’t pay the doctors well. Ask any doctor

Great pediatric doctor!
January 12, 2022 1:52 pm

Dr gottesmans office is a great office! Really nice staff, short waits and you can get same day appointments

Chaim
January 12, 2022 1:53 pm

ODA is opening a new 16,000 square foot state of the art center on East New York in the next year iyh.
Chaim

No no
Reply to  Chaim
January 12, 2022 2:21 pm

That’s going to be good? We will be treated like robots

Nah
Reply to  No no
January 12, 2022 3:13 pm

Cattle.
Robots receive great care.

Chaim
Reply to  No no
January 12, 2022 3:23 pm

Why do you say that?

who is ODA?
Reply to  Chaim
January 12, 2022 2:26 pm

please share?

Dovid
January 12, 2022 1:53 pm

I’ve been waiting a long time for an article like this. The issue is made much worse due to the fact that one of the medical groups in Crown Heights is extremely disorganized. I feel that they have a disrespectful attitude towards their patients, but unfortunately, as the Oped wrote, there aren’t a lot of options. Examples are the long waiting times to be able to reach someone on the phone, often failure to call patients back, and 2 days after waiting for a 60 second follow up conversation with a doctor being told that we don’t want to call… Read more »

The problem is..
January 12, 2022 1:56 pm

It’s time we create professionals amongst our own their is universities that have a Jewish atmosphere we need doctors lawyers architects and engineers etc..

Ok!
Reply to  The problem is..
January 12, 2022 3:57 pm

Go for it, please!

Even if we did
Reply to  The problem is..
January 13, 2022 3:50 am

Would they work in CH or end up in other jewish areas that would pay them better

The local places need to hire us
Reply to  The problem is..
January 28, 2022 10:35 am

I am an young mother and RN with great experience. But every doctors office isn’t hiring. I know many others such as myself who are looking but they “don’t have any jobs available.” They keep costs low by having a small staff. It’s not a lack of providers

Well written but fyi
January 12, 2022 2:01 pm

Well written but fyi this is an issue that expands to much more than just CH. I work in an urgent care and I can assure you that we have many people coming in from all places because they must wait a long time until they can get an appointment with their practitioner.

So true!
January 12, 2022 2:03 pm

We truly are blessed with the most devoted doctors – true Rofeh Yedid’s, but at the same time, not enough doctors for a growing community. We really do need more doctors, as well as orthodontists and OBGYN’s as written. My children are grown up B”H but shlepping to Flatbush to the orthodontist with them was not fun. And Shlepping to Boro Park to an OBGYN was also not fun. Our community is growing B”H. We shouldn’t have to shlep elsewhere for this.

Thank Obama
January 12, 2022 2:15 pm

He disincentivized the rofeh yedid model, sad

Hahaa
Reply to  Thank Obama
January 12, 2022 2:28 pm

What are you talking about?

Why, you don’t remember
Reply to  Hahaa
January 12, 2022 10:30 pm

“If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”? The lie of the year – heck, maybe of the decade? Well, Obama”care” messed things up pretty badly for both the consumer and the doctor. You could have asked Dr. Feldman a”h about how much worse it made things for him, for example; why, he would have closed up shop long ago, we’re it not for the fact that the Rebbe had told him many years earlier to never quit.

Why, you don’t remember
Reply to  Why, you don’t remember
January 13, 2022 6:00 am

At least with Obama Care many people got insurance that they otherwise would not have had. We had Romney Care before Obama was in office and it helped a lot of us out

And?
Reply to  Why, you don’t remember
January 13, 2022 9:35 pm

You do realize that insurance doesn’t help you if you can’t find a doctor, right?

Correct - Free work
Reply to  Why, you don’t remember
January 13, 2022 8:55 pm

Dr. Feldman did a tremendous about of free work. Whatever kind of insurance you had (or didn’t have) he saw you. No new young doctor would do that (I’m not saying they should). He was a real tzadik and economically made zero sense for him to stay open. Anyone in healthcare knows about the overhead. If a hospital can see 1000 more patients they can afford a staff and build the infrastructure. However, if you see 1000 more patients but only 100 pay, you can not afford to build anything. Dr. Feldman worked to the bone to his dying day.… Read more »

Displaced blame
January 12, 2022 2:24 pm

The insurance companies are to blame. They keep raising premiums and lowering payouts to doctors.

The doctors are getting paid less so they have less leeway where they cannot afford to have idle staff. The inverse of idle staff is waiting patients.

The malpractice insurers are also to blame because they too keep raising doctors’ premiums, cutting further into the doctors’ margins.

Hats off the doctors and staff who work hard to offer you the same level of care or better, while getting paid less to do so.

This is the reason
Reply to  Displaced blame
January 12, 2022 4:41 pm

That CH has no doctors. Most ppl on Medicaid, and Medicaid doesn’t pay docs well.

ISRAEL
January 12, 2022 2:34 pm

we should learn from israel.

to book a appointment you dont need to talk to anyone, just use your app. for the most part docters stick to the list of their appointments so long you are on time, docters are trained how to cunduct an appointment in a time frame professionaly so they can get to everyone.

Appt
Reply to  ISRAEL
January 12, 2022 2:59 pm

Try making an appt with a specialist there , you will wait 6 months.

Israeli resident in distress
Reply to  ISRAEL
January 12, 2022 4:11 pm

This is not reality. I’ve been sick for three weeks in yerushalayim. They barely have any appointments and when asked for a strep test they simply picked up my shirt and refused me a strep test. After many attempts I finally got a strep test, but have no way of getting the results.
Additionally the doctors in Israeli prison are not sufficient. They have no strep tests.

Get your facts straight in israel
Reply to  Israeli resident in distress
January 12, 2022 6:36 pm

Strep test result can be delivered to your phone. A call to your doctors office can result in a call back and a prescription ordered by computer. In fact i hardly ever see doctors. I call office and doctor speaks to me and orders all needed tests by computer. Then i call back a few days later and speak by phone about the results. Wait for specialist is 2 wks and rarely 3 months. Must better organization in israel

Let's Mobilize
January 12, 2022 2:36 pm

This article is spot on. Thank You to all our wonderful CH Doctors/PA’s & Medical Personal from all Medical Offices for doing the best you can even while being in many many ways understaffed. Another thing that is important is we need more of our own Doctors. Just like we all understand and that its common sense that we rather our fellow Frum Yidden in Hatzalah treat us if there is chas vishalom a medical emergency instead of “others”, because of the love, care, compassion & devotion they are not just treating a “patient” but they are treating the “patient” with so… Read more »

Recruiitment
Reply to  Let's Mobilize
January 12, 2022 8:49 pm

Maybe they should offer student loan payment as an incentive. I will be paying off student loans until I am 75

subsidized tuition
Reply to  Recruiitment
January 12, 2022 9:14 pm

the governer just created a program to subsidize tiuition for students going into needed healthcare specialities

Subsidized tuition
Reply to  subsidized tuition
January 13, 2022 6:04 am

I receive subsidized tuition already. But when your tuition is so high and you have other bills to pay you will be paying back that tuition bill for a very long time

Let's mobilize
Reply to  Let's Mobilize
January 12, 2022 9:03 pm

PAs do not spend “many years in medical school.” They go to PA school for 2 or 3 years and must always work under a Physician’s supervision.

You have a point
Reply to  Let's Mobilize
January 13, 2022 7:58 pm

There’s such a lack of organization and cohesiveness between all the said medical organizations and Tzedakah s we can barely help our own families and we now want to have the entire frum network of NY to make a system? That takes someone with vision and drive and lately those people are met with immense push back. It’s also important to note that majority of the frum healthcare professionals are from Crown Heights, Flatbush etc. Williamsburg and Boro Park could never generate enough healthcare professionals

We are so *done* with COVID
January 12, 2022 2:37 pm

Perhaps if the CH community might dispose of the attitude “we all got COVID, we are so done with it” then more healthcare workers would be attracted to the area. Wear your mask, social distance, and stay home if you’re sick!

Follow the science
Reply to  We are so *done* with COVID
January 12, 2022 10:13 pm

The science says face diapers achieve NOTHING. They are simply the goyishe equivalent of a red string. Don’t be an idiot, don’t wear a face diaper.

Follow the Science
Reply to  Follow the science
January 13, 2022 6:09 am

Then why are masks worn in the Operating Room if they achieve nothing? Patients who refuse to wear masks are asked to leave my office. And that’s why COVID is still here

Because
Reply to  Follow the Science
January 13, 2022 2:44 pm

as anyone with a little common sense might realize, the masks worn in operating rooms aren’t at all the same as the face diapers. Also, the distance from the surgeon’s mouth to the area being operated on is much closer than when someone is walking down the street or sitting near you.

So please share your name and office location, so that we can know that you don’t actually believe in science, only in magical thinking, and be able to find someone else.

Because
Reply to  Because
January 14, 2022 7:27 am

The masks are the same- a surgical mask. And it’s not just the surgeon who wears it- everyone in the room does whether they are close to the patient or not. Unfortunately I can not share my name because I don’t think that this is allowed and it woul probably get deleted. As to my office location, I practice in Massachusetts, RI, and Connecticut. I have worked for NBC, PepsiCo, and various drug companies. I own my own Family Practice and I also work for a major international manufacturing company. I am not bragging- am only stating fact and only… Read more »

Because
Reply to  Because
January 14, 2022 7:37 am

It sounds like you all are having a little trouble “finding someone else “ that’s why this article was written! Hope everything works out for you!

Precisely backwards
Reply to  We are so *done* with COVID
January 12, 2022 10:27 pm

Those who recognize that Covid is not the Black Death, and who go about their lives normally and don’t panic every time someone sneezes near them – they’re not the ones clogging up the doctors’ offices.

Precisely backwards
Reply to  Precisely backwards
January 13, 2022 6:11 am

You are absolutely right! Those people aren’t in doctors offices- they are in the hospital on ventilators. And that’s why I don’t practice in Crown Heights

Precisely backwards
Reply to  Precisely backwards
January 13, 2022 7:26 am

You are right. Those people are not in doctors offices. They are in hospitals on ventilators. Or in cemeteries.

More than just vaccines
Reply to  We are so *done* with COVID
January 13, 2022 3:56 am

Why only point out vaccines instead of the problems the community has with being overweight, not enough exercise and not eating a healthy diet

Prevention
January 12, 2022 2:54 pm

Let’s use natural G-d given resources to prevent illnesses and diseases: sun, air, food, water. All available with easy access. Stress reduction helps as well. The earliest form of a doctor mentioned in the Torah is in relation to Tzoraas and the diagnostician was the Cohain. May we merit to return to those times of Spiritual awareness.

Yes, because all the ill people did that to themse
Reply to  Prevention
January 13, 2022 8:00 pm

Your comment makes it sound like people choose to get sick. I know many individuals with chronic illnesses who prior to illness were very fit healthy and were living by all these measures you mentioned

Solution
January 12, 2022 2:57 pm

The only way things will change is if the community ensures that their kids have a good secular education so that they can be accepted into medical school. Only the best and brightest get into medical school and we need to ensure that some of our best and brightest go in that direction. Going to college in order to heal people while earning a good Parnoso should be encouraged.

I agree.
Reply to  Solution
January 12, 2022 6:57 pm

I work in healthcare and college was a true struggle coming from a CH school with no background. I know many ppl who’ve turned medicine down bc it was just too foreign. We need better education if we want more of our own.

Side note, college was never encouraged in the hassidic community so I don’t know what you expect

college
Reply to  I agree.
January 12, 2022 9:16 pm

college is a struggle for many people who go to public school as well.

Destroying the shchuna in order to save it?
Reply to  Solution
January 12, 2022 10:19 pm

If you’re going to overturn everything the Rebbe stood for, everything he fought for, then why bother living in Crown Heights in the first place?

Because
Reply to  Destroying the shchuna in order to save it?
January 13, 2022 12:17 am

Times are different man

Hmm
Reply to  Solution
January 12, 2022 10:32 pm

The Rebbe was very against people going to college, with rare exceptions. How’s about you tell us who you are, so we can evaluate for ourselves whether your opinion should outweigh his?

Even with that background...
Reply to  Solution
January 13, 2022 8:02 pm

Getting into medical school currently is a HUGE challenge, you need to score in the 97th percentile on the MCAT and above to even gain acceptance. I have friends from secular background who can’t get in

Even with that background
Reply to  Even with that background...
January 14, 2022 7:32 am

Maybe they should go to foreign schools

Bardwigdor
January 12, 2022 3:29 pm

Nice article, ODA Williamsburg, is coming to CH very soon, you will get better service

Manhattan doctors
January 12, 2022 3:33 pm

I started going to doctors in Manhattan. It goes much quicker including the traveling time. I also feel that doctors are afraid to give honest opinions since they unfortunately don’t trust people. Therefore there’s no longer the concept of a rofeh yedid telling you what he really thinks in sticky situations.

Manhattan doctors
Reply to  Manhattan doctors
January 13, 2022 6:18 am

Often patients don’t want to hear the providers opinion. They just want their provider to agree with their own opinion. And write them a Rx

From Sara
January 12, 2022 3:41 pm

The author isn’t wrong but it’s not just doctors that are lacking here. Shopping was always better out of the neighborhood too. In recent years our restaurants have stepped up but that’s about it. Our best and brightest go on shlichus and take a lot of our discretionary funds with them. We don’t have much left for ourselves here.

Idea
January 12, 2022 3:46 pm

Due to exorbitant fee of becoming a doctor and the cost of living for a frum family most frum people that become doctors chose to specialize in higher paying specialty’s
How about the community as a whole incentives becoming a general practitioner and working in crown heights by offsetting the cost through grants etc.

Innovative solution
January 12, 2022 3:51 pm

This issue needs Immediate attention. I beleive that this issue needs to be transferred to higher sources, namely, Mr. Trump.

I have a meeting with Mr. former President tomorrow. i will adress this issue.

Moshiach now
January 12, 2022 3:52 pm

You didn’t come just for the doctor. Hashem wanted your chitas there. Maybe that helped as many people as the doctor.
Hope things change for the better.

AD MOSAI
January 12, 2022 3:53 pm

galus is giving us noche tzuros.
RABOISAI, THERE IS ONE SOLUTION
WE NEED MOSHIACH
NOW NOW NOW
YIDDEN WAKE UP
ITS BEEN TOO LONG

MOSHIACH IS COMING.

with siyata dishmaya
January 12, 2022 3:54 pm

with siyata dishmaya, were on our way to becoming the mothers of tommorow.. its not okay, as a future mother! i want stability to know that my children and ,mydelf will be okay. please lets storm the heavesbs and bring about the coming of moshiach tzidkeunu amen seluh.

5G!
January 12, 2022 3:54 pm

i think the solution in vaccination. The 5g network is delivering phsycologically manipulationf our reality.

we need to stop being ignorant.

Home visits
January 12, 2022 3:57 pm

If somebody opens up a home visit medical team, which is essentially an urgent Care on wheels, it will do really well in crown heights. They have them in different places in the US and for most visits I have them come to my house unless it’s a follow-up visit or something that must be seen by the pediatrician or PCP.

Home visits
Reply to  Home visits
January 12, 2022 8:53 pm

I make House Calls in my practice and insurance will not reimburse unless the patient is “Housebound.” I

Concierge Medicine
Reply to  Home visits
January 13, 2022 8:05 pm

It’s out of pocket and a FORTUNE..the doctors offering these services are usually on a retainer and have massive fees

Concierge medicine
Reply to  Concierge Medicine
January 13, 2022 11:22 pm

And they don’t do it out of loving their profession or caring for patients. They only do it for the money

Patient
January 12, 2022 3:58 pm

There is no reason for the long wait Time book an appointment and to b seen!! There is zero respect for patients time. How come at Ezra medical center there is no wait time to book and to b seen! If Ezra can manage it so can CH. seems like this is simply mismanagement..::

Crown heights
Reply to  Patient
January 12, 2022 5:51 pm

Agree i use ezra and i can not go back to crown heights doctors

Patient
Reply to  Patient
January 12, 2022 9:10 pm

Let me explain to you about long wait times. When a patient makes an appt with me about a sore throat, and when in the office he also wants me to look at his ingrown toenail and look at a rash “as long as I’m here” it tends to make me late for the next patient. I usually have to ask him to schedule an additional appt to eval those unexpected things. This makes him grumpy because he wants everything taken care of at once eventhough an appt of this length was not planned. So there are two sides to… Read more »

Exactly
Reply to  Patient
January 13, 2022 12:19 am

One pt needs a throat culture and one pt wants to discuss their child’s odd behavior. Medicine is unpredictable

Pros and cons
Reply to  Patient
January 13, 2022 1:53 pm

And if you are late 5 /10 minutes your appointment is canceled. Or if you miss your appointment there is a fee.

Truth is..
January 12, 2022 4:10 pm

There are several Lubavitchers I know perusing the medical field. Issue is, none of them want to stay in NY, more specifically CH. not sure you can make living there enticing for these people who want comfortable living space, better weather, the list goes on and on.

I agree.
Reply to  Truth is..
January 12, 2022 6:59 pm

And especially, don’t forget, need to pay back debt which is not going to happen living in NY

Stop complaining
January 12, 2022 4:36 pm

You live in NYC you got so many options out there.
The “I deserve mentality” is really not appropriate
If something or someone is bothering you just move on to the next thing.
If you won’t expect that you deserve everything you won’t get disappointed either.
The city has more options besides crown heights.
Really come on.

Lack of education
January 12, 2022 4:39 pm

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that we are lacking people in these professions because we discourage people from going to college. Typically orthodontics, doctors and other professionals like to have a practice close to home. If there aren’t many young adults attending college to become doctors, then we won’t have any in your neighborhood. Plenty of other frum people getting professional degrees. There are frum colleges to go to.

Lack of education
Reply to  Lack of education
January 12, 2022 8:57 pm

Not true. I have patients in the far side of the state. I travel over 4 hours by train to see some of them. I also work in RI and have no problem traveling. I would not recommend going to a frum college necessarily- I would go to the best college for that specialty that you can get accepted to.

With all due respect
Reply to  Lack of education
January 13, 2022 9:24 pm

With all due respect, I’ll explain why you are inaccurate. The boys yeshivas in Williamsburg offer more English than OT (1.5 hours a day – OT zero). However, they have 10 doctor offices. Do you think the doctor’s name is Yoly and he went to Yeshiva Satmar on Lee Ave? BH there are many talented people in Williamsburg who built these clinics/family practices. You don’t need to have doctor Mendy/Mushky. If the doctor’s name is Moshe/Miriam – nice people from Flatbush or five towns – what’s wrong with that? Meaning, if other communities support becoming doctors – then great –… Read more »

In the rest of the world
January 12, 2022 4:39 pm

Other than CH, everyone hops in their car to appointments. You can’t expect to be able to just walk to every speciality of doctor you wish. A 15 min drive is normal.

One minute
Reply to  In the rest of the world
January 12, 2022 5:45 pm

That’s not the way it’s supposed to be in crown heights which is a very big community and you really should be able to do everything you need even if you don’t afford a car

not in the chassidishe world
Reply to  In the rest of the world
January 12, 2022 5:59 pm

In the chassidishe world where people are encouraged to have large families, they don’t run far for doctors. Go to Williamsburgh, Boro Park and even Flatbush. They all have many more doctors, orthodontists, OBGYN’s…etc. in their neighborhoods. They don’t have to travel each time they need a doctor. They don’t have to be Chabad doctors, just bring in more doctors. We really do need more of them! Author is spot on.

“Bring in” lol
Reply to  not in the chassidishe world
January 12, 2022 10:40 pm

Sorry but no one is running to live or work there anymore. In fact, the opposite.

In the rest of the world
Reply to  In the rest of the world
January 12, 2022 9:20 pm

Not true. I have many patients who live in homeless shelters. Not only to they not have a car, they have no place to live. I also have patients in rest homes and in locked units who aren’t able to go anywhere. And the rural health clinic that I also work at is the ONLY medical care in the area unless they can travel almost an hour away. And there is no public transit for them either- we have to arrange a PT1 form.

In the rest of the world
Reply to  In the rest of the world
January 12, 2022 10:03 pm

Not true. I have patients living in homeless shelters. Not only do they not have a car- they don’t have a place to live.

what do you expect??
January 12, 2022 5:21 pm

Did you know that United Healthcare Community Plan pays only $11.00 for emergency dental visit? Why would anyone want to open an office in Crown Heights. They pay more in BP.

So true
Reply to  what do you expect??
January 12, 2022 7:57 pm

It’s ridiculous

Frum NP
January 12, 2022 8:32 pm

I’m a frum nurse practitioner and I will tell you many professionals avoid frum communities because you get no respect. COVID made it so much worse. How many times did I have to listen to people’s diatribes and conspiracy theories and they know best because they googled. How many conversations around shabbos tables bashing doctors and the advice they give. People dont want to work where they won’t get appreciation or respect.

Frum NP
Reply to  Frum NP
January 12, 2022 9:14 pm

I am also a Frum NP. Did you notice that no one other than you even mentioned NPs in any of these emails? I find this hilarious because PAs must be supervised by Physicians but NP are independent (at least in RI, Massachusetts, and Conn). I was beginning to think that I was the only Frum NP out there!

patiants
Reply to  Frum NP
January 12, 2022 9:20 pm

And how many times did I go to drs who didnt take me seriously bc they know best and in the end I had to get diagnosed other places?

Patients
Reply to  patiants
January 13, 2022 6:29 am

You are absolutely right. And that’s why I did not become a physician. NPs operate in a Nursing Model not a medical model and we treat the Whole Patient. I encourage my patients to bring me their research- provided it is based in science and not in conspiracy theories. I usually have a wait time for a week or two for a new patient. And yes I make House Calls carrying my little black bag. And no I am not new- I have been in practice for over 35 years

Well, see
Reply to  Frum NP
January 12, 2022 10:36 pm

If you’re just going to dismiss their concerns as conspiracy theories, and you just want the patients to accept what you say uncritically, then you’re not a nurse or a doctor. You’re a drug pusher.

Well, see
Reply to  Well, see
January 13, 2022 6:35 am

I agree with Frum NP and I am no drug pusher. That is hilarious- who are the ones asking me to prescribe ivermectin? Who is asking me to prescribe hydrochloriquine? I invite you to tell me also who are the ones asking me to prescribe monoclonal antibodies while they are not in a hospital?

Why, they would be the ones
Reply to  Well, see
January 13, 2022 2:52 pm

who have done their research and found that ivermectin does work (see, for one example among many, results from India). As a matter of fact, the recently developed Pfizer drug – why, it uses the same mechanism (protease inhibition) as ivermectin. And so forth. Just because you can’t be bothered to look up anything except what St. Fauci says, doesn’t mean that no one else should either.

Why, they would be the ones This Content Was Pub
Reply to  Why, they would be the ones
January 13, 2022 5:53 pm

Believe me I have looked up plenty- I also hold a Master’s Degree in Pharmacology and Toxicology so I know something about drugs. With few exceptions (such as Bag Balm and Mane and Tail) Veterinary drugs should NOT be used in humans. And no I do NOT agree with everything Dr Faucci says- I have to abide by the CDC regulations, but I don’t have to like them.

Interesting
Reply to  Why, they would be the ones This Content Was Pub
January 14, 2022 7:37 am

So apparently you don’t know the simple fact that ivermectin was originally developed and marketed as a human drug. They don’t give Nobel Prizes for veterinary medicines, you know. What other facts are you choosing to overlook?

Pseudoscience at it's finest
Reply to  Why, they would be the ones
January 13, 2022 8:10 pm

All the things everyone thinks they “understand” about how these mess work is missing a lot of key info- the research u are seeing is skewed!! ( On all sides)

Frum NP
Reply to  Why, they would be the ones
January 13, 2022 8:10 pm

Well, then, I guess we don’t have a problem with a healthcare shortage in CH since everyone does their research and nobody needs healthcare.

Why, they would be the ones
Reply to  Why, they would be the ones
January 13, 2022 10:17 pm

A recently developed Pfizer drug for humans is not a veterinary drug for animals. I do plenty of research because I happen to have a Master’s degree in Pharmacology and Toxicology. With the exception of Bag Balm and Mane and Tail, veterinary drugs should not be used on humans. And no, I do not agree with everything that Dr Faucci says. I have to abide by CDC guidelines but I don’t have to like them.

Aaaaaaa
Reply to  Well, see
January 13, 2022 7:41 pm

Monoclonal antibodies have to be given before you are hospitalized not after . So I doubt the person writing this is a doctor

Aaaaa
Reply to  Aaaaaaa
January 14, 2022 7:54 am

You are correct! My point was that I am not a drug pusher. Monoclonal antibodies are experimental. Please Google the consent form and read it. It says that nothing is guaranteed and it can actually make the patient worse. Most of them are IV except for Regeneron which can be given SQ in 4 injections over a hour. You have to decide the pros and cons and make up you own mind, but I do NOT encourage “pushing drugs “ and I do NOT prescribe that way. And I never said that I was a physician but I do have… Read more »

Nice article ….
January 12, 2022 8:47 pm

So important to have more physicians in CH ( Chabad or non Chabad.) Moms who don’t drive ( or can’t afford a vehicle) should be able to have easy access in her neighborhood to hers or her child’s/children’s Dr’s etc…. With minimal waiting time ( unless dr has an immediate emergency.)
Thank you for discussing this here.

All I hear
Reply to  Nice article ….
January 12, 2022 10:42 pm

is “should should should”
Enough with the entitlement. People need to start adulting.

adults
Reply to  All I hear
January 13, 2022 3:45 pm

Sounds like u never had a nervous breakdown after shlepping a stroller up and down five flights of stairs twice a week while seven months pregnant to take two subways so ur kid could get phsycial therapy (no there are no medical pediatric physical therapists in ch only early intervention) while quitting ur job in order to have enough time to do so.

The wait times
Reply to  Nice article ….
January 13, 2022 8:11 pm

Are part of the entitlement- doctors in CH “must” attend to everyone and end up backed up- your strep throat is concerning but so is the bed bound patient with CFS

Gratitude
January 12, 2022 11:07 pm

y’all are lacking in gratitude. you do not even comprehend how lucky you are to have access to the community medicine you do. you even have a dedicated physician working until midnight two nights a week for decades just to see everyone on his schedule, he even makes house calls like it’s 1970 still, because it’s good medicine! do you think he gets paid for a 60+min visit with each patient? HA! medicare/medcaid reimburse for 15min max. and everyone here is on Medicaid (socialized medicine), so you’re not even paying for the medical care you receive and yet you expect… Read more »

Big problem
January 12, 2022 11:33 pm

If a doctor opened a practice for which he charged $300 for the visit, did not accept insurance, and appointments would be timely, would you go? That’s the necessary model. And for those who can’t afford $300 there’s the current model.

Exactly
Reply to  Big problem
January 13, 2022 12:23 am

Well said.

Big problem
Reply to  Big problem
January 13, 2022 6:39 am

That is not the current model everywhere. Some patients I see for free because they have no insurance and they can’t pay.

Coach Fare vs. 1st Class
Reply to  Big problem
January 13, 2022 3:04 pm

My father, a secular, ultra-liberal Jew and a physician in family medicine, believed that socialized medicine was “the answer.”

Until he actually had to practice it.

He was required to see a certain number of patients to maintain profits. He came home bitter & exhausted, complaining, “People want coach fare but first class service.”

He died bitter and disillusioned.

Just an idea
January 13, 2022 12:06 am

Mere blocks from the heart of CH is Kings County Hospital. I work there. We have an enormous clinic with practically every specialty under the sun. Most of the doctors are graduates of SUNY (right across the street) and are incredibly talented. We also have bright residents from medical schools all across the US. Our chiefs of service are also highly accomplished in their fields. We have NP’s and PA’s too. We have pretty much every diagnostic test available under one roof from lab work to MRI. Think of a medical specialty….we’ve most likely got it. And if we don’t,… Read more »

If only college was not discouraged
January 13, 2022 12:09 am

I find this op-ed hilarious. As a current frum NP who went through the chabad “system” where college was frowned on… is it any wonder how there is an artificial shortage of medical professionals? Perhaps the yeshivas should start encouraging college, and that shlichus (while very admirable) is not the only/best way to serve Hashem.

You're missing the point
Reply to  If only college was not discouraged
January 13, 2022 4:18 pm

I think you’re missing the point. The author wants more doctors in the neighborhood. She’s not asking for more Chabad doctors. We are very happy with Dr.’s Plaut, Samra, Horowitz, Issoroff…etc. They are not Chabad and we love them all. They are just not enough and the author wants to see more doctors, orthodontists, OBGYN’s…etc but would be perfectly happy with whoever they are, just have an office in CH so she doesn’t have to run with 9 kids out of the neighborhood for each appointment, or wait for hours in the current CH offices that cannot handle our growing… Read more »

Regardless...
Reply to  You're missing the point
February 6, 2022 6:52 pm

And these magical medical professionals should come from where? They have to be grown from within. I don’t see medical professionals running to crown heights to open a practice, unless they have been born/raised or married to a local crown heightser!

You are asking for Wrong answers
January 13, 2022 2:21 am

Maybe a better request would be from Hashem to make it that we do not need doctors !!!!

Yaakov
January 13, 2022 9:02 am

More frum Yids need to go to medical School and pass MedCATs become M.D.

No going to happen
January 13, 2022 2:39 pm

Our entire system is set up an away so that we don’t go to college and walk away with a degree (not that there is anything wrong with the that) girls walk out of seminary at age 20-21 guys after Simcha 22-23 To start medical school after that would mean you’re done At 30 and medical school is one of the most demanding and challenging things to undertake so no dating/shidduchim till you 30 even then you work night and Shabbos shifts in a hospital for 2 years so basically not really gonna happen unless it’s actively encourage to pursue/not… Read more »

No going to happen
Reply to  No going to happen
January 13, 2022 5:59 pm

It all depends upon how badly one wants something. I went to Grad School when my twins were 3yrs old and I also worked full time. And I had a classmate who was 78. If you want something badly enough, you will do anything to get it.

spot on!
January 13, 2022 4:21 pm

I feel like I could have written this myself (although I probably would not have done such a good job). I totally agree!

If you want more community doctors, MAKE them
January 13, 2022 8:15 pm

If you want more doctors in Crown Heights, provide a secular education for your children, encourage them to go to university and train to be doctors or anything else they want to be. If you want more community doctors, MAKE them.
Zay Gezunt,
A Doctor

Wrong Time
January 14, 2022 3:43 pm

A little tone deaf, being as doctor offices and hospitals NATIONWIDE are exploding from the sheer volume of patients due to Omicron this past month. Believe in COVID or not, ask anyone working in an office and they will tell you they are overworked with crazy shifts and way too many patients per provider.

Not saying your point isn’t correct, just that this isn’t really the right week to bring it up.

Dentists!!!!
January 16, 2022 9:00 pm

Crucial!!

bottom line
January 18, 2022 3:57 pm

Bottom line….we need more doctors – be it Chabad or anyone else. We are Ka”h a large, growing community and we are still with the same practitioners as 30 years ago. (Even less, not that Dr. Feldman passed away). Time to open new offices with more doctors of all types!

Keeping staff small and costs small
January 28, 2022 9:46 am

Many of the doctors offices would greatly benefit from more medical staff (doctors, nurses, PAs, etc) but they are hiring a skeleton crew. This is the business model. I am a young mother and an RN with great experience and every office said that while I was clearly qualified they “didn’t have any open positions.” At the height of the pandemic!! You wait for an appointment, wait on hold, Wait in the waiting room, wait inside the room…there is a need but they aren’t hiring. I get that their profit margins must be small and personnel is expensive but this… Read more »

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