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The Privilege and Challenge of Today’s Yeshivas

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Teacher training
August 22, 2021 3:54 pm

Teachers need to educate themselves to learn to accommodate different levels and abilities in one class. It should not be frontal teaching, only addressing “the majority”. Schools need to support teachers by offering training, support staff, and specialists so children do not get left behind. Communities need to support schools so all of this can be funded and The Abishter has to help!

It really can be a problem
Reply to  Teacher training
August 22, 2021 4:38 pm

Easier said than done. At the end of the day, regardless of how extensive ones training is, being faced with 25 students who span across five different levels is a very hard task. How is one supposed to engage them all without boring or confusing some ?

Right on
Reply to  It really can be a problem
August 22, 2021 5:33 pm

that’s exactly why classes should not have more than 12 students!

Wondering
Reply to  Right on
August 22, 2021 8:46 pm

Is that sustainable?

Ask yourself the same question
Reply to  Wondering
August 22, 2021 11:12 pm

Is it sustainable to keep classes at 25?

Why does it seem more sustainable to keep them at 25 than at 12? Because at 25 the financials get covered as opposed to with only 12? What about the fact that at 12 the children’s needs get covered as opposed to at 25?
Maybe that’s more important and what we should be looking to be what we consider sustainable.

Support our kids/neighborhood
Reply to  Ask yourself the same question
August 23, 2021 7:15 am

So much of our neighborhoods financial resource s are spent supporting other neighborhoods and our children/grandchildren is the price we pay.

Level and upgrade
Reply to  Teacher training
August 23, 2021 3:16 pm

Use leveled system but encourage to upgrade kids to upper levels not to kicking out to low levels. Like a game with one goal to succeed

On a small note
August 22, 2021 4:53 pm

Education as a child wasnt for me because since the age of 6 I faced that teachers dont practice what they preach. They preach G-d and his Torah but dont apply it in their own lives. That left a scar within me for years. I had to leave that scar behind me and educate myself with the help of nasi hador our Rebbes teachings, that Hashem wants me to have faith and have a frum life and not put faith in my teachers example/way of life.

Easy fix
August 22, 2021 9:18 pm

Stop separating classes by age and go back to basics.
You go up in grades as they pass test.
Time alone should not be a indicator of grade but simply knowledge and study.
Class 1 learn A
Class 2 learn B
Class 3 learn C and so on…
Very simple very soon all will be taught on their level!

Not so
Reply to  Easy fix
August 23, 2021 7:32 am

Anyone who has worked in a school will know that doesn’t work. Peoples brains work differently and it’s not just a matter of time. For example, some people take longer to process. So you ask a question and by the time the child understands the question, you have already moved on. The child might actually be very intelligent and, in a situation where they are given the time, will give insightful responses beyond those of their quicker peers. Imagine how that child would feel if they are kept down and see children much younger than them moving ahead. The long… Read more »

Problem that no motivation
Reply to  Easy fix
August 23, 2021 3:19 pm

Instead of it, do one level for all and then upgrade all who wants more, simply by doing test and sending kids to different level, and the others can continue to repeat the same for longer.
My kid is smart but because he is smart he is bored and boredom is just waste of his time and my money. He can do more.
Simply give him advanced level for few hours a day to be there

I remember when...
August 23, 2021 2:14 pm

I remember when I was in Oholei Torah grade 8, we had an incredible rebbe that taught us the most gemarah I ever learned. He had a special weekly “mitzuyanim shiyur” in his house for the elite top students – to challenge them and give them extra depth of rishonim/achronim on the weekly blatt gemarah. He also had a weekly “chaloshim shiyur” during lunch recess for anyone wanting a one-on-one review with him of the weekly blatt gemarah he taught. He would even sometimes pick 2 students that needed TLC and invite them to his house to join his family… Read more »

True..
Reply to  I remember when...
August 24, 2021 8:36 am

And remember that he had a “double class” of 32 students!

I don’t know how he managed them all, while giving all the extra attention to the levels of students.

He even had monthly class melaveh malkas in his home.

And remember one year the class even printed a kovetz of chidushim on the gemarah.

Remember when every Sunday he would start the day with a quick 15-minute review of the Shabbos farbrengen (he would tell us, “First sicha was about…, second sicha was…third sicha was…”)

What are you talking about?
August 23, 2021 4:46 pm

Chederim we’re always for everyone. (besides during tragic circumstances which were the exception)

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