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The Muslim Iftar Meal in Crown Heights Was Glatt Kosher

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Bridges
April 28, 2022 1:22 am

whilst your building bridges the Arabs are building tunnels.

Hateful rhetoric
Reply to  Bridges
April 28, 2022 10:10 am

There will be no tolerance for hateful words like this.

The Arab community and the Muslim religion are just as valid and beautiful as our own. This event was an amazing display of unity and I’m proud that orthodox Jews were involved.

no
Reply to  Hateful rhetoric
April 28, 2022 10:50 am

No they are not equal / valid as our own. we are the “am nivchar” holy nation chosen by Hashem that is why they will always hate us.

Maybe
Reply to  Hateful rhetoric
April 28, 2022 3:45 pm

you need to spend a little more time learning about your own religion, and about what “asher bachar banu mikil ha’amim” means. Hint: not that another religion is “just as valid and beautiful” as the one given to us by Hashem.

Permissible
April 28, 2022 1:54 am

Did the Rabbonim of Crown Heights endorse and permit this gathering?
Was this done with the approval of Rabbonim?

Why not?
Reply to  Permissible
April 28, 2022 10:31 am

What about being kind to other religious groups would be considered not okay according to halacha? Aren’t we commanded to love one another? That’s the foundation of the entire Torah.

So…
Reply to  Why not?
April 28, 2022 3:48 pm

you’re completely unaware of the halachos whose purpose is specifically to limit fraternization with non-Jews? You’re also completely unaware of who “rei’acha” in “ve’ahavta lerei’acha kamocha” means?

Curious
April 28, 2022 7:11 am

How was the chicken halal and kosher?

Berel
Reply to  Curious
April 28, 2022 10:55 am

all kosher meat is halal by their definitions

Nice, Ummm
April 28, 2022 7:46 am

Why am I getting weird feeling from this? Do Jews belong in a mosque? Taking part in a observance of an alternate religion?

That weird feeling is good, embrace it
Reply to  Nice, Ummm
April 28, 2022 10:12 am

Get outside of your comfort zone. All religions have something to offer and teach, and orthodox Jews have so much we need to learn.

Not so fast
Reply to  That weird feeling is good, embrace it
April 28, 2022 11:05 am

We are told not to look into other religions.
It is a religious observance to arabs not just a meal so isnt it observing another religion?
Were rabbis consulted?

Remember the sueda of ahasverosh? It was kosher too!

Misinterpreting
Reply to  Not so fast
April 28, 2022 11:38 am

This does not mean that you have to convert to Islam, it simply means that you should respect other religions.

Learning their beliefs and their customs may help you realize that we have more in common than one would initially assume.

Get to know people, grow, stretch yourself, and you’ll find that you can develop a more open-minded, kinder approach towards the world while still remaining strong in your Judaism.

I respect others
Reply to  That weird feeling is good, embrace it
April 28, 2022 4:02 pm

Well said.

Amazing
April 28, 2022 8:55 am

This is beautiful. This is what it means to be an orthodox Jew. I hope we only grow to become more inclusive and progressive, opening our doors to other beliefs, whether they be religious or political or racial. “No one is free until we are all free.” If Jews want to be treated with civility and equality, we must treat others this way as well. Great job.

Honorary Citizen
Reply to  Amazing
April 28, 2022 9:56 am

Open to other beliefs? Are you Jewish? Are you a religious Jew?
Inclusion has nothing to do with “progressive” i.e. aggression. Respecting every decent human has nothing to do with “progressive” i.e. aggression.

Your comment is insulting to say the least. Orthodox Jews are the most inclusive people on this planet. Your comment suggests otherwise.

I'm cracking up
Reply to  Honorary Citizen
April 28, 2022 10:33 am

You write: “Open to other beliefs? Are you Jewish? Are you a religious Jew?”

And then you follow up with: “Orthodox Jews are the most inclusive people on this planet.”

You’re not even inclusive of me, a fellow orthodox Jew!

Orthodox Jews are so non-inclusive that we don’t even include our own. If you can’t see this in our own crown heights community…

Hahahah
Reply to  Honorary Citizen
April 28, 2022 11:41 am

Orthodox Jews are so non-inclusive it’s bordering on an aveira.

I wish we were an inclusive community. I wish people of all colors and orientations and status and observance were treated with respect, but unfortunately we don’t practice what the Torah preaches.

Wrong wrong wrong
Reply to  Hahahah
April 28, 2022 12:48 pm

We should accept jews who don’t keep shabbos (and you would have a point that we need to work harder on being accepting of people who are less observant) but we shouldn’t accept the idea of not keeping shabbos. We should accept people who happen to be Muslim or christian or atheist but we shouldn’t accept the ideas and practices of islam, christianity or atheism

I respect others
Reply to  Amazing
April 28, 2022 4:03 pm

100%!

Just sayin'
April 28, 2022 10:15 am

Rapprochement, cooperation, unity & friendship are always great and a step in the right direction. Kudos to our reps who certainly made great efforts to arrange this event.

Notwithstanding, partaking in such a meal, in a non-Jewish house-of-worship no less, by community representatives – is it oysgehalten al pi halocheh?? Were the reps subjected to any sermons / words of inspiration in commeration of the non-Jewiish holiday? Was a rov asked before participating and representing the Chabad community of CH??

What would the Rebbe say to this??!

Kosher v'yosher?
April 28, 2022 10:28 am

The Rebbe said “JTA SUBSCRIBE ARCHIVE Search JTA’s historical archive dating back to 1923 Lubavitcher Rebbe Voices Opposition to ‘Interfaith Dialogues’ Menachem Mendel Schneerson, left, the late Grand Rabbi of the Brooklyn-based Lubavitcher movement, seen in 1993. (Shahar Azran/AFP/Getty Images) March 30, 1965 SEE ORIGINAL DAILY BULLETIN FROM THIS DATE ADVERTISEMENT Opposition to “interfaith dialogues” which, he charged had been largely responsible for “the alarmingly growing rate of intermarriage,” was voiced here yesterday by Rabbi Menachem M. Schneerson, the Lubavitcher rebbe. Replying to a request by 250 Jewish leaders who had asked him for his views on interfaith dialogues, Rabbi Schneerson… Read more »

Thank you
Reply to  Kosher v'yosher?
April 28, 2022 11:08 am

Its good to get the view of the rebbe on this

Kosher v'yosher?
April 28, 2022 10:30 am

Opposition to “interfaith dialogues” which, he charged had been largely responsible for Replying to a request by 250 Jewish leaders who had asked him for his views on interfaith dialogues, Rabbi Schneerson declared:

“There is no need for us whatever to have any religious dialogues with non-Jews, nor any interfaith activities in the form of religious discussions, interchange of pulpits and the like. The brotherhood of mankind is a positive concept only so long as it is confined to commerce, philanthropy and civil and economic aspects of society.”
This was an intrafaith activity. The Rabbonim should speak out about it.

Agreed
Reply to  Kosher v'yosher?
April 28, 2022 11:09 am

Thank you

I respect others
Reply to  Kosher v'yosher?
April 28, 2022 4:17 pm

This does not sound like an interfaith dialogue or a religious discussion, but merely respectful attendance at an event that had religious significance for many people who were present. If a Christian or Muslim attends the funeral of a Jewish person, the attendee is not participating in a Jewish ceremony but merely showing respect for the departed.

Wow!
April 28, 2022 10:45 am

This is amazing!! I love seeing our communities coming together. This is how we bring Moshiach. So proud.

beautiful
Reply to  Wow!
April 28, 2022 12:40 pm

was daas Torah involved? the Rebbe was against this behavior

Something smells wrong here....
April 28, 2022 11:22 am

Why are G-d’s chosen people assimilating by celebrating non jewish holidays? there are jewish and Christian organizations and now celebrating jewish and Muslim holiday?! What’s the difference between the yidden being by achashviroshs party (even just them being there) or the yidden assimilating the greek culture?! It all starts somewhere and so it begins with these kinds of “celebrations “… which leads to far worse… we are G-ds chosen people and we should stay that way!

Sanhedrin 39b
Reply to  Something smells wrong here....
April 28, 2022 6:27 pm

From the forest itself comes the handle of the axe…

Best news
April 28, 2022 11:43 am

Orthodox Judaism at its best!

Perspective
April 28, 2022 11:58 am

This is not about interfaith dialouge

This is about community relations

There is no Halachic problem with going to a Mosque

All these negative comments have no validity

Quoting from the Rebbe on an unrelated issue is inappropriate

As the saying goes, if you don’t do anything than no one will criticize you and if you do things there will always be naysayers

What have you done besides add more negativity...
Reply to  Perspective
April 28, 2022 1:50 pm

Well said! Nothing more it add! Looking at the above comments, it is VERY EASY to sit on the sidelines and criticize. what have YOU DONE to bring Moshiach, besides being an armchair critic? No need to see out of context comparisons…Show us more articles of what YOU are doing to change the world, within CH, within NY, within USA, within North America and the world at large. We don’t have to see your negativity. If you don’t agree, don’t add YOUR NEGATIVITY, just do something positive. No need to criticize, hamaaseh hu haikar – DO SOMETHING POSITVE!

Noahide laws
April 28, 2022 12:39 pm

Hopefully this was used as an opportunity to teach them about the Noahide laws

Nice to read some good news
April 28, 2022 12:53 pm

I hope this is the new standard for how we treat other religions and cultures and races. Always with love and respect.

Mosques
April 28, 2022 1:33 pm

Mosques are halachically fine to enter as Islam believes in the same one G-d. I don’t believe they were discussing theology but showing unity with others in our neighborhood.

During an Observance?
Reply to  Mosques
April 28, 2022 8:51 pm

Maybe it’s OK to go in if that’s a polling place but…

It’s OK to go in while they are practicing a decidedly non-Jewish religious observance? Eh…

Plus, they accept Yoshke as a prophet and claim that Yerushalayim is theirs, R”L.

Do business together? Sure. Live nearby as neighbors? OK

Pray/observe Islamic rituals together? Nope.

An excellent initiative
April 28, 2022 6:24 pm

Critics are mostly fearful of interacting with anyone who’s ‘other.’

Reminder about Mizrahi jews
April 29, 2022 11:17 am

Reminder to everyone here (most of you are bigoted Jerks by the sounds of it) that Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews have traditionally celebrated with their Muslim neighbors for various holidays. Eid is a big one, and so are Iftars. Before things got really bad in the Arab world, it wasn’t uncommon for Jews and Muslims to be close enough to go over for various happy occasions. My family is Egyptian and this used to happen all the time. And let me tell you..having Iftar is a very happy occasion. Also, Masjids (mosques) are fine, they are monotheistic. It’s Churches we… Read more »

And yet…
Reply to  Reminder about Mizrahi jews
April 29, 2022 6:33 pm

…your love for your fellow man is so great that you smear your fellow Jews as “bigoted jerks.” So it sounds like it’s less love of your fellow man and more an excuse to bash others. Who’s the bigot, then?

What is daas Torah
May 8, 2022 9:33 am

JUST WONDERING WHAT WOULD THE REBBE SAY!
PROBABLY TO TEACH TEM THE SHEVA MITZVOS BNEI NOACH!
SOMETIMES WE GET SIDETRACKED BY THINKING THAT WE KNOW WHAT IS BESTFR KLAL YISRAEL.
THAT IS THE REASON WE ASK WHAT DAAS TORAH SAYS! FOR ALL OF YOU WHO WRITE INTO THE IGROS…. WHAT ANSWEREID YOU RECEIVE ABOUT ATTENDING THS GLAT KOSHER PARTY IN MOSQUE FOLLOWING A MOSLEM RELIGIOUS EVENT!BE TRUE TO YIURSELF AND LOOK INTO A MIRROR WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT TE HALACHA!

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