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  |  June 17, 2019

    The Music Is Way Too Loud

    As wedding season resumes, Dr. Levi A. Reiter, Professor Emeritus of Audiology at Hofstra University tells COLlive loud music is an actual problem. Full Story

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    Selfish
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    Selfish

    Such loud music is unenjoyable, too. I think the hosts and the bands should really think about this. I have lost hearing as a result. It is gnayva.

    Like
    Guest
    Like

    Like at simchas beis
    The decibel is exaggeratedly loud
    I couldn’t hear for a day bc of it

    Well said
    Guest
    Well said

    Literally everyone already knows this (besides for the ones on stage?)

    Right
    Guest
    Right

    Exactly. Tell the musicians that play at every wedding.

    Vnishmartem
    Guest
    Vnishmartem

    Some of the musicians are to blame. They are the ones who will not lower the music. I have asked them numerous times to lower the music, to no avail. For this reason, I only attend family weddings. I miss going to weddings, but my hearing is more important. Sad state of affairs.

    smart
    Guest
    smart

    use ear plugs

    SELFISH
    Guest
    SELFISH

    Those who say “Use ear plugs” are basically saying: I will purposefully do something that will damage the public, and if you don’t want to be damaged, than you need to take protective measures” That is extremely selfish and is equal to allowing drunk driving and telling the person who complains that if he has a problem, he should stay off the road!!

    Agreed
    Guest
    Agreed

    And it’s impossible to enjoy and have a conversation. Even during the dinner the music is blasting!! Its way too loud. Please turn it down.

    Mostly frum weddings
    Guest
    Mostly frum weddings

    I hate the loud music, I dont think it’s enjoyable. I have been to plenty of non frum weddings where the music is actually enjoyable. Nowadays if I have to go to a wedding I just wear ear plugs.

    Completely agree
    Guest
    Completely agree

    I’m a musician and whenever I attend a Crown Heights weddings I bring earplugs. The music is so loud it is absurd. But the bands only care about “getting the crowd going”, who cares if everyone suffers from ringing ears for the next two days

    It's not for the next two days
    Guest
    It's not for the next two days

    You can easily suffer permanent hearing loss and tinnitus for the rest of your life. You might think it’s funny when you’re young, but when you can’t hear properly later in life…..

    Go zaidy!
    Guest
    Go zaidy!

    Go zaidy!

    YES
    Guest
    YES

    Thank you Dr. Reiter! It is a complete and total CHUTZPAH to inflict pain and damage upon others just because some young kids decided that they can’t dance to music that’s lower than the decibal level of a lawnmower. If they want to blow their hearing, let them wear headphones and blast their own ears out, but to force others to have to deal with their craziness is outright chutzpah and unacceptable! The blasting music has to stop! Whose idea was it anyway…

    It's all the usual bands
    Guest
    It's all the usual bands

    It’s not only in CH. I’ve been to Lub weddings out of town where the baalei hasimcha flew in bands to play at their simcha and the loud music is just as AWFUL! The only way this harmful situation will change is if it hurts them (they protect their ears). I bring earplugs to weddings – but the music still causes an unpleasant atmosphere because people can’t hear each other talk. Time to go back to good old fashioned simcha music. At our wedding, Eli Lipsker, obm, played a variety of Jewish music at a nice decibel. Now, the bands… Read more »

    An out of towner
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    An out of towner

    I flew in to CH for 2 weddings one after another & ended up with tinnitus So now i live with constant ringing in my right ear ….. Not sure it was worth going……
    P.S. I do love when soft nostalgic music is played during the meal So much classier!

    Who is the baal hasimcha!!!
    Guest
    Who is the baal hasimcha!!!

    I know few Chassunos where the baal hasimcha asked personally the band to lower the volume and they refused because they said it is going to take of their name.

    Common sense for planning simchas & programs
    Guest
    Common sense for planning simchas & programs

    Music should enchace an event, not overwhelm nor should it be damaging or uncomfortable for anyone. Be a mench and consider all atendees. Put into the contract: volume control, specific musical requests (and what music not wanted), instructions as to who can make requests of the musicians even if they offer a tip. Be a mench and consider all atendees. ALL vendors – caterers, photographers, florists, baby sitters, etc. should be given specific requirements, schedules, hours, overtime arraingements and contact person who can make changes or troubleshoot on the fly (this applies to both payee and vendor) in their contracts.… Read more »

    Thank you Doc
    Guest
    Thank you Doc

    BH

    I kept on begging the musicians at my Own wedding to turn it down and they wouldn’t listen!

    Thank you!!!
    Guest
    Thank you!!!

    This is so important and really needs consideration. BH we have many babies and children at CH weddings. It is so harmful for anyone, especially little ones.
    And I don’t enjoy shouting into the ears of the person next to me over dinner because the background music is no longer in the background. Weddings are not enjoyable for me anymore.

    hearing loss due to excessive dB levels
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    hearing loss due to excessive dB levels

    Trying to be sociable at simchas by staying in the hall throughout all simchas has cost me some permanent hearing loss.
    With what’s left of my once extremely acute hearing, I now leave the simcha hall the moment the loud music begins – even leaving the building – til it returns to a tolerable level in order to preserve the hearing I do have left.

    Stop running and THINK (what the audience wants)..
    Guest
    Stop running and THINK (what the audience wants)..

    It’s MODERN to have telephone books with tiny print so you need a magnifying glass to read it. It’s MODERN for the band to play the music excessively loud. When you ask the band to play it lower, they can actually either – play it louder – or you might at least get their TYPICAL answer – “but the people LIKE it”. They probably believe what they are saying. But it’s only ARROGANCE not to listen when people say something and to deny the requests for lower, enjoyable music. Some band leaders are CONVINCED (so they say) that people enjoy… Read more »

    Really
    Guest
    Really

    Do we really need a Dr to tell us this… This is a issue going on for a while and no one listens to rabbonim on this issue. Really sad.

    Yes
    Guest
    Yes

    Musicians of crown heights please adhere to the healthy hearing levels.

    Right
    Guest
    Right

    Without pointing fingers, there are only a few musicians/singers that play in crown heights and they’re the ones that need to implement this

    Thank you
    Guest
    Thank you

    Thank you! This has been driving me nuts for years, every Simcha that should be enjoyable, weddings, bar mitzvahs, lag baomer parades, uncle Moishy concerts are so loud it is really hard to enjoy oneself. I flew in for a wedding and had to sit out for most of it. Some kids don’t seem to notice, but at events they were really looking forward to my kids want to leave, every single time, in tears. And earplugs are not always so helpful. Since when do we have to feel like we are in a club? There is a level of… Read more »

    When you go to a club
    Guest
    When you go to a club

    You know what to expect and that’s why you go. When it’s your grandson’s wedding, or you’re an INVITED GUEST, you should be able to expect to be comfortable, not assaulted by the music!!!

    I'm young and I cant stand the loud music
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    I'm young and I cant stand the loud music

    Going into CH weddings is so unenjoyable. I’d like to be able to socialize in the hall, not have to leave to talk to the person sitting next to me. I go to secular weddings as well, the music is no where near as loud.
    Even going to frum kid events I’ve had to walk out because my kids could not handle how loud it was, it literally hurts.

    Babies
    Guest
    Babies

    Babies can wear headphones to protect their ears.
    Maybe the agreement with the musician should include not playing the music too loud, they should agreed upon a contract and if they don’t listen they don’t get paid.

    REDICULOUSLY OVERLOUD MUSIC AT SIMCHAS
    Guest
    REDICULOUSLY OVERLOUD MUSIC AT SIMCHAS

    I’ve already stated my views about this on the COLLIVE FEED ON FB.
    As a Retired RN, I’m more concerned about the Irresponsible Parents who bring their Infants & very young Children to these Simchas.
    If the ears of Adults are sooo affected by the terrible loudness of the music, are these young parents so totally unaware of what DAMAGE they’re allowing their kinderlach to get by bringing them into the Ballrooms.
    Please consider to rather Leave the Infants & Babies at home with a Babysitter; or better yet, let the mommies stay home.
    PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE!

    You might claim the right
    Guest
    You might claim the right

    So we should let the musicians get their way with the over-loud music while the siblings of the choson/kallah should stay home with their babies?

    Hiring a musician
    Guest
    Hiring a musician

    Personally, I would really like to hire a musician who can guarantee that he will play at a safe decibel level. That would definitely be a plus.

    Agree!
    Guest
    Agree!

    All the musicians! Should be more considerate toward other people! Just because they are wearing earplugs, it doesn’t mean they should put the music louder! Thank you dr Reiter! This is truly a time to bring this up?

    Important
    Guest
    Important

    Thank you for this important article thay I hope encourages all of us to be more mindful and aware. In regards to musicians, from what I recall hearing many a time, the main musicians adhere to what the baal hasimcha requests. While on this article everyone agrees to the importance of the sound levels, it could be thay some are unaware of it affects. I dont think its fair to lay it out completely when the musicians themselves have said they do as the baal hasimcha requests. Make a search-you will see thay this has been said (and yes, from… Read more »

    Agree
    Guest
    Agree

    The Baal Simcha may well be the one requesting a loud simchadik wedding party.
    The article is merely pointing out the potential dangers of listening to music of various loudness levels for a given lenth of time. The article is aimed at notifying the Baal Simcha, the Musician, or whom ever makes the decision re: music levels– what the consequences can be.
    What and whoever makes the decision re: loudness, it should be made with the awareness of the dangers posed to the listeners at the simcha.

    Is it true?
    Guest
    Is it true?

    I heard (but I couldn’t believe it) that in Crown Heights Wedding Halls the ONLY ones that have control over the music are the Chosson and Kallah. That the musicians only have to listen to them and not to their parents nor to anyone else. Please tell me this is not true!

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